Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
This is the only one I would have considered ahead of Davis on that list.
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WR Gabriel Davis, Free Agent (1 Viewer)
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DropKick
Footballguy
I prefer the Waddles and Moores of the world but do like Gabe over Amon-Ra. A good portion of that is situation - I'll take the piece in the Bill's offense. Yes, the last 5-6 games were good - not sure that continues with a healthy Swift, Hockenson and eventually Williams.
metoo
Footballguy
What position has been the most productive than split end?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
The phrasing of this question is confusing. Can you clarify?
metoo
Footballguy
Who did Josh throw to other than Diggs, out of the WR group?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Buffalo Bills / Target, Touch, Red Zone, & Snap Count Leaders
www.fantasysp.com
It's a bit misleading though, as it doesn't account for injury or ineffectiveness. I also don't know how many of those targets were actual targets, vs throw-aways or moonshot deep bombs on free plays.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Some combination of MCKenzie & Crowder, who they brought in specifically for slot work. You seem to be under the impression it's 100% McKenzie in the slot. It's not likely to be that.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Noted.
metoo
Footballguy
Dynasty and keeper are the only formats I play.
metoo
Footballguy
We need an edit, Hot Sauce Guy, I love your thoughts on this forum.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Ah - yeah, in dynasty I'm inclined to agree, and I roster Davis in both of my leagues. I got him at extremely reasonable prices though.
At current pricing I wouldn't be trying to acquire him. That said, I feel like by the time Shakir is ready to make an impact, Diggs might be riding into the sunset.
Also we have an edit feature!
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Over the last 2 years, Sanders was the one that Allen threw to on the outside when it wasn't Diggs. And a mixture when Sanders was out injured. And Beasley in the slot.
Davis was a 20-year-old rookie drafted in the 4th round and earned snaps regardless. It took a couple of years but by the end of last season, he had supplanted Sanders on the outside across from Diggs. The slot role was/is still up for grabs. He has 18 TDs before the age of 23 (in a largely PT role) with very solid efficiency. Go look at Sanders' numbers when he was healthy and I think you see Davis' floor. It isn't bad. And I think everybody can agree that his 4 TD playoff game will be his best career game ever, but is there really any reason to doubt that he has a great ceiling week to week?
He's going to be playing FT snaps like he did during the last 6 games of the season last year. He is *probably* going to return value on even 4th/5th round ADP. The Bills are going to pass the ball 650+ times and people act like he is a scrub. BTW go back 20 years and you will find that *most* fantasy WR1s had teammates that finished as either another WR1 or as a WR2. Good offenses support 2 fantast relevant pass catchers. All. The. Time.
Note - sometimes those FF relevant pairings are a WR and a TE
Davis was a 20-year-old rookie drafted in the 4th round and earned snaps regardless. It took a couple of years but by the end of last season, he had supplanted Sanders on the outside across from Diggs. The slot role was/is still up for grabs. He has 18 TDs before the age of 23 (in a largely PT role) with very solid efficiency. Go look at Sanders' numbers when he was healthy and I think you see Davis' floor. It isn't bad. And I think everybody can agree that his 4 TD playoff game will be his best career game ever, but is there really any reason to doubt that he has a great ceiling week to week?
He's going to be playing FT snaps like he did during the last 6 games of the season last year. He is *probably* going to return value on even 4th/5th round ADP. The Bills are going to pass the ball 650+ times and people act like he is a scrub. BTW go back 20 years and you will find that *most* fantasy WR1s had teammates that finished as either another WR1 or as a WR2. Good offenses support 2 fantast relevant pass catchers. All. The. Time.
Note - sometimes those FF relevant pairings are a WR and a TE
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Everyone get in here and boo this man!!!
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Isaiah McKenzie last I checked and he's listed at 5-8? That can't be right, is it?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
League 1. Starting him over R. Stevenson & Pollard at flex
League 2. Starting him over Aiyuk at flex.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
"Marino Fake Spike" Miami Dolphins vs. New York Jets (Week 13, 1994) | NFL Full Game
In honor of Free Game Friday the NFL presents: "The Fake Spike" - Dan Marino leads a vicious Dolphins comeback capped off by the infamous "Fake Spike"!Time C...
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Mark Ingram scored 4 TDs and you can easily link to them in the dropdown under the video link.
Has nothing to do with Davis but the 4 TDs always makes me think of Ingram. This video also has the fake spike TD in it.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Hell of a play.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Gotta get creative. Pay for him with valuable assets you don’t want.
I had James Robinson & David Bell, didn’t want either. The Gabe Davis owner wanted both. Voila!
No way in hell I’d sell for a 2nd in dynasty, and I don’t know why anyone would come out swinging with that light a stick with all the preseason hype. I get not wanting to pay for hype, but those aren’t remotely fair offers at the moment.
This may be more a case of “he put him on the block, he must hate him!” or something.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
It's been a few hours since this thread was on top so I figured I'd change that. YW.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I thought sure he’d scored his 5th TD of 2022 when I saw it was bumped
3 hour lunch
Footballguy
Currently benched for Kupp, Amon-Ra and Metcalf. Really want to put Davis in but expect Amon-Ra to be fed heavily and hard to bench DK
Deamon
Footballguy
I'd play him over DK I think. But FBG does have them ranked 1 spot apart so its a coin flip. Just fun having someone to cheer for on opening night.
TampaMike19
Footballguy
I'm very much looking forward to coming into this thread if he does 2 for 35 tomorrow lol
Should have a good game tomorrow.
Should have a good game tomorrow.
facook
Footballguy
I have a sinking feeling it will be that type of game, as someone who has him multiple places. Dreading seeing a frustrated Allen staring blankly at an ipad and he and his weapons starting my season off painfully.
Yenrub
Footballguy
League 1: 16 team - starting him over Treylon Burkes
League 2: 12 team starting him over Jaylen Waddle, Toney and Burkes
I have two shares so far:
- 12 Team Dynasty: Likely sitting as I have Diggs and Lamb starting. I could play him in flex over Tannehill, Dillon, Godwin, or Marquise Brown. Currently leaning Tannehill (safest play).
- 8 Team PPR: Toss up. Have to choose between Davis, Godwin, and Aiyuk. Have no idea what to do.
efactor
Footballguy
That's a no brainer IMO. Josh Allen or Geno Smith throwing you the rock? I'll take Josh
Deamon
Footballguy
While I agree I'd start Davis, I wouldn't say no brainer.
FBG has DK ahead of Davis (2 spots)
Fantasy Pros has DK ahead of Davis (2 spots)
ESPN has DK ahead of Davis (1 spot)
Sports Illustrated has DK ahead of Davis (2 spots)
CBS has DK ahead of Davis (7 spots)
efactor
Footballguy
I just don't see it. Geno Smith as his QB and Surtain guarding him most of the night
Deamon
Footballguy
I guess. I'm just saying every major site has DK higher. And I don't think they're all dumb.
I agree I'd start Davis but it would be close.
efactor
Footballguy
I would agree they all aren't dumb, except in ranking Metcalf ahead of Davis this week
As big as a business as FF is, sometimes I think the site "experts" get a little lazy.
Deamon
Footballguy
The big main sites for sure I could see. I usually trust FBG the most and it is neck and neck for them.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Geno makes bonehead decisions but he’s become an adequate NFL QB. It doesn’t take a great QB for Metcalf to be productive since the guy is so fast and strong and can get the ball. He was TD dependent but did well playing with Geno last year.
Phantom Knight
Footballguy
I'm gonna have to disagree with the cumulative expert opinion here. For me this year, if I have anyone viable DK is on the bench until Geno proves he can consistently feed him.
Phantom Knight
Footballguy
Be quiet you... this tidbit could be absolutely fatal to my huge downgrade of Metcalf!
Deamon
Footballguy
DK with Geno as his QB last year:
5 for 98 and 2 TDs
6 for 58 and 0 TD
2 for 96 and 1 TD
6 for 43 and 2 TDs
DK was the #4 Fantasy WR in the NFL last year during his 4 starts with Geno.
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Phantom Knight
Footballguy
Wow! It is not often that facts shock me, but that information does. I am stubborn though and will persist in my doubt for a couple weeks more at least. With a chance to prepare/focus on Geno and the Seattle offense, I am thinking that there will be a good bit of regression from #4. But yeah, even a good bit of regression could leave DK with an ADP where I had hard passed on him.DK with Geno as his WB last year:
5 for 98 and 2 TDs
6 for 58 and 0 TD
2 for 96 and 1 TD
6 for 43 and 2 TDs
DK was the #4 Fantasy WR in the NFL last year during his 4 starts with Geno.
Deamon
Footballguy
To be fair, I didn't know this either until I just looked it up now and was equally surprised lol
WR13 in my leagues in PPG during that stretch, but your point is valid that he did better those weeks than many thought.DK with Geno as his QB last year:
5 for 98 and 2 TDs
6 for 58 and 0 TD
2 for 96 and 1 TD
6 for 43 and 2 TDs
DK was the #4 Fantasy WR in the NFL last year during his 4 starts with Geno.
I'd start him over DK without question. He was drafted well before DK in my leagues so I don't understand how this is even a decision.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Game script in Seattle could have them passing all night, so it’s a fair question. Maybe a coin flip.
They’re both pretty good starts. Edge to the dude with the better QB.
Deamon
Footballguy
Not disagreeing, but what format is yours? I went through PPR, half PPR, and PPR, and only looked at averages from those weeks (5-8) that Geno started, and i haven't seen him below WR9 any way I try. Were you looking at only weeks 5, 6, 7, and 8 when Geno started?
Yep same weeks, just sorted by PPG avg for that period of 4 games (PPR) on MFL for my leagues. There were a few guys that missed games due to injuries like Adams, some with Byes with a higher PPG, and we could probably remove a fluke like Peoples-Jones.
