WR Gabriel Davis, Free Agent (2 Viewers)

[JoeJoe88]

This guy basically holds your lineup hostage because once you finally bench him he blows up. My least favorite kind of player. Been trying to trade him but no one else wants him either. Can’t start him. Can’t bench him. Can’t trade him. Dropping him is probably the answer.

Time to sell him was right before the season started. He was getting ridiculous hype. I saw people getting 23 1st+ for him.

 

[Johnny Utah #9]

So with Allen likely playing through his injury today and finally a good matchup, are owners here looking to play him this week?

Have to be a bit concerned with Allen's willingness to go deep with the injury?

 

[Faust]

Gabe Davis caught 6-of-8 targets for 93 yards and a touchdown in Buffalo's Week 10 loss to Minnesota.​

Davis caught the only Bills receiving touchdown of the game, a back-shoulder ball over Akayleb Evans. He also did or did not catch a 20-yard pass to help set up a field goal, depending on if you are a member of the NFL's review crew/had Davis on your fantasy team or had non-partisan eyes. Davis will remain feast or famine, but it was good to see the feast again after a couple of down weeks. He'll be a WR3 against the Browns next week.
Nov 13, 2022, 6:21 PM ET

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I never lost faith

 

[sho nuff]

I never lost faith

I did. Hope Josh Palmer comes through.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I never lost faith

I did. Hope Josh Palmer comes through.

Me too. I’m in 18th in a DFS on DraftKings - I have Palmer. No one above me has anyone.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

I never lost faith

I did. Hope Josh Palmer comes through.

Me too. I’m in 18th in a DFS on DraftKings - I have Palmer. No one above me has anyone.

GL

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I never lost faith

I did. Hope Josh Palmer comes through.

Me too. I’m in 18th in a DFS on DraftKings - I have Palmer. No one above me has anyone.

GL

Thanks - I’ve never won more than $20, so it’s a little crazy to have a legit shot at $900

 

[Faust]

Gabe Davis caught 4-of-5 targets for 38 yards in the Bills' Week 12 win over the Lions.​

It was a painful day for Davis' fantasy managers, who witnessed a roughly 30-yard touchdown broken up at the goal line by a strong defensive effort. It could have also been a catch, though completing the process has never been Davis' strong suit. Seeing more consistent volume of late, Davis has upped his floor but ceiling weeks have remained elusive. The Patriots are a poor Week 13 road matchup.
Nov 24, 2022, 4:28 PM ET

 

[King of the Jungle]

Can’t live with him, can’t live without him. My least favorite type of player.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Can’t live with him, can’t live without him. My least favorite type of player.

He’s getting the targets. It would have been a spectacular catch had the DB not made a lights out play, but so long as Allen is looking for him, I can’t keep him out of my lineups.

 

[TartanLion]

Well this is really a bit of a slump. Always backed him to do well but he’s petering out right now. The explosions just don’t seem to be coming, to go alongside the down weeks. No point in troughs without the proper peaks. He needs a strong end to the season and playoffs to get his value back and put him on the correct trajectory again.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I’m looking forward to games against not brutal defenses.

 

[rockaction]

And 2. Thielen’s eventual retirement.

Whose? What. . .?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

And 2. Thielen’s eventual retirement.

Whose? What. . .?

Oops. Not Thielen. What was I thinking? I wish Gabe would get dealt to MIN.



I was just reading about KJO & brain farted them together.

 

[Deamon]

What a massive disappointment this year. Y'all were off the deep end this preseason.

 

[smbkrypt24]

What a massive disappointment this year. Y'all were off the deep end this preseason.

I agree it has been a disappointing year for him this year. He had a few highlight games that gave a glimpse of stud potential, but ultimately he stays inconsistent.
To add to the deep end portion. I caution anyone not to put a high or low valuation on a player based on a small sample size. Talks of 2 and 3 firsts for him seem silly at this point. I think now it could be debated he isn't worth (1) 2023 late first, but I will hold off saying that until I get more into this years prospects.

 

[Deamon]

What a massive disappointment this year. Y'all were off the deep end this preseason.

I agree it has been a disappointing year for him this year. He had a few highlight games that gave a glimpse of stud potential, but ultimately he stays inconsistent.
To add to the deep end portion. I caution anyone not to put a high or low valuation on a player based on a small sample size. Talks of 2 and 3 firsts for him seem silly at this point. I think now it could be debated he isn't worth (1) 2023 late first, but I will hold off saying that until I get more into this years prospects.

Just meant all the people acting pompous and condescending to anyone that didn't take him in round 4.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

What a massive disappointment this year. Y'all were off the deep end this preseason.

I agree it has been a disappointing year for him this year. He had a few highlight games that gave a glimpse of stud potential, but ultimately he stays inconsistent.
To add to the deep end portion. I caution anyone not to put a high or low valuation on a player based on a small sample size. Talks of 2 and 3 firsts for him seem silly at this point. I think now it could be debated he isn't worth (1) 2023 late first, but I will hold off saying that until I get more into this years prospects.

Just meant all the people acting pompous and condescending to anyone that didn't take him in round 4.

No one acted pompous or condescending. GTFO with that nonsense. That’s purely a narrative that you’re projecting onto people.

Some of us are high on Gabe Davis even still. No one was arrogant or pompous about it. It’s called a discussion forum. We are discussing a player and those of us who are high on him had high projections for him. No one expected Josh Allen’s numbers to fall off as they have done. The elbow injury wasn’t predictable, and volume for the Bills is down.

That, combined with a great defense that keeps games relatively low scoring & limits the need for the bills to go pass happy, plus a very difficult schedule, has led to less than expected performances by many of the bills, including and especially Gabriel Davis.

I can think of nothing more condescending than “I told you so” posts on a player who didn’t perform to peoples expectations. Just salting wounds -very endearing.

 

[Deamon]

What a massive disappointment this year. Y'all were off the deep end this preseason.

I agree it has been a disappointing year for him this year. He had a few highlight games that gave a glimpse of stud potential, but ultimately he stays inconsistent.
To add to the deep end portion. I caution anyone not to put a high or low valuation on a player based on a small sample size. Talks of 2 and 3 firsts for him seem silly at this point. I think now it could be debated he isn't worth (1) 2023 late first, but I will hold off saying that until I get more into this years prospects.

Just meant all the people acting pompous and condescending to anyone that didn't take him in round 4.

No one acted pompous or condescending. GTFO with that nonsense. That’s purely a narrative that you’re projecting onto people.

Some of us are high on Gabe Davis even still. No one was arrogant or pompous about it. It’s called a discussion forum. We are discussing a player and those of us who are high on him had high projections for him. No one expected Josh Allen’s numbers to fall off as they have done. The elbow injury wasn’t predictable, and volume for the Bills is down.

That, combined with a great defense that keeps games relatively low scoring & limits the need for the bills to go pass happy, plus a very difficult schedule, has led to less than expected performances by many of the bills, including and especially Gabriel Davis.

I can think of nothing more condescending than “I told you so” posts on a player who didn’t perform to peoples expectations. Just salting wounds -very endearing.

You don't think "only idiots let Gabe Davis slip to the 6th round" is pompous or condescending?
Cmon, just face your biggest fear and admit you were wrong about a player lol

 

[JoeJoe88]

think now it could be debated he isn't worth (1) 2023 late first

He’s not.

 

[The Duff Man]

I was wrong. Figured him for 1000 and 10 TDs. Too many drops and lost the confidence of his QB. Some criticism that he doesn’t run the whole route tree, not sure if that is an OC or player issue but limits him to big play or bust results.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

What a massive disappointment this year. Y'all were off the deep end this preseason.

I agree it has been a disappointing year for him this year. He had a few highlight games that gave a glimpse of stud potential, but ultimately he stays inconsistent.
To add to the deep end portion. I caution anyone not to put a high or low valuation on a player based on a small sample size. Talks of 2 and 3 firsts for him seem silly at this point. I think now it could be debated he isn't worth (1) 2023 late first, but I will hold off saying that until I get more into this years prospects.

Just meant all the people acting pompous and condescending to anyone that didn't take him in round 4.

No one acted pompous or condescending. GTFO with that nonsense. That’s purely a narrative that you’re projecting onto people.

Some of us are high on Gabe Davis even still. No one was arrogant or pompous about it. It’s called a discussion forum. We are discussing a player and those of us who are high on him had high projections for him. No one expected Josh Allen’s numbers to fall off as they have done. The elbow injury wasn’t predictable, and volume for the Bills is down.

That, combined with a great defense that keeps games relatively low scoring & limits the need for the bills to go pass happy, plus a very difficult schedule, has led to less than expected performances by many of the bills, including and especially Gabriel Davis.

I can think of nothing more condescending than “I told you so” posts on a player who didn’t perform to peoples expectations. Just salting wounds -very endearing.

You don't think "only idiots let Gabe Davis slip to the 6th round" is pompous or condescending?
Cmon, just face your biggest fear and admit you were wrong about a player lol

I didn’t see anyone say that.

Who did?

I admit I’m wrong about players all the time.

Again; you’re projecting - this response is you, being pompous and condescending. The irony is fantastic.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

think now it could be debated he isn't worth (1) 2023 late first

He’s not.

He’s still very young. He may well prove to be.

 

[Deamon]

And as I said, smart drafters dont let him slip to the 6th.

I didn’t see anyone say that.

Who did?

I admit I’m wrong about players all the time.

Again; you’re projecting - this response is you, being pompous and condescending. The irony is fantastic.

See above, you must have had your typical blinders on.

And Even when you're "wrong" like you were about Davis you're just writing tons of excuses for him. 90% of your posts are talking about your team and how you made a good call.

I'm not being pompous at all. I modestly liked Gabe this season but was ridiculed for saying he shouldn't have been taken in the 3rd/4th rounds. He sucked and no one is owning up. I liked him in the 6th round and I was wrong about him, he should have been taken in the double digit rounds.

 

[JohnnyU]

I'll tell you how I feel about Davis. I was really high on him and was hoping he would ascend rapidly, but I have to say at this point going into the fantasy playoffs, I can't say I have a warm and fuzzy about him. Don't get me wrong, he's still startable over marginal RBs and even higher dart throws at WR and TE, but I hope you get my drift.

 

[JoeJoe88]

think now it could be debated he isn't worth (1) 2023 late first

He’s not.

He’s still very young. He may well prove to be.

Well, good news is if there’s any dynasty leagues you’re in and you don’t own him you shouldn’t have any trouble acquiring him. I’d imagine he can be had for a 23’ 2nd nowadays. That’s what the owner in my league was trying to get for him before the season started but he never found a buyer.

 

[smbkrypt24]

think now it could be debated he isn't worth (1) 2023 late first

He’s not.

He’s still very young. He may well prove to be.

It’s not about proving to be worth a first in the future. It’s his value now.
We could continue looking through our rose colored glasses about every player we draft, if we say “well someday they may be worth a first.”

 

[Alex P Keaton]

And as I said, smart drafters dont let him slip to the 6th.

I didn’t see anyone say that.

Who did?

I admit I’m wrong about players all the time.

Again; you’re projecting - this response is you, being pompous and condescending. The irony is fantastic.

See above, you must have had your typical blinders on.

And Even when you're "wrong" like you were about Davis you're just writing tons of excuses for him. 90% of your posts are talking about your team and how you made a good call.

I'm not being pompous at all. I modestly liked Gabe this season but was ridiculed for saying he shouldn't have been taken in the 3rd/4th rounds. He sucked and no one is owning up. I liked him in the 6th round and I was wrong about him, he should have been taken in the double digit rounds.

We had guys in here telling us that targets don’t matter to Gabe Davis. That he can be a stud with only 5-6 targets per game.

 

[massraider]

This past August he was like a Beanie Baby in 1997

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I'll tell you how I feel about Davis. I was really high on him and was hoping he would ascend rapidly, but I have to say at this point going into the fantasy playoffs, I can't say I have a warm and fuzzy about him. Don't get me wrong, he's still startable over marginal RBs and even higher dart throws at WR and TE, but I hope you get my drift.

I feel the same. I’m rolling him out at flex in one league, and I’m obviously hoping for a TD.

And in that same league, his monster game with the 98 yard TD won me that week, and I made the playoffs by 1 win.

Some of this is recency bias. Note that resident troll @Deamon wasn’t posting in here after that game.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

And as I said, smart drafters dont let him slip to the 6th.

I didn’t see anyone say that.

Who did?

I admit I’m wrong about players all the time.

Again; you’re projecting - this response is you, being pompous and condescending. The irony is fantastic.

See above, you must have had your typical blinders on.

And Even when you're "wrong" like you were about Davis you're just writing tons of excuses for him. 90% of your posts are talking about your team and how you made a good call.

I'm not being pompous at all. I modestly liked Gabe this season but was ridiculed for saying he shouldn't have been taken in the 3rd/4th rounds. He sucked and no one is owning up. I liked him in the 6th round and I was wrong about him, he should have been taken in the double digit rounds.

We had guys in here telling us that targets don’t matter to Gabe Davis. That he can be a stud with only 5-6 targets per game.

And he could.

Week 5 he put up 37 PPR points on 3 just
receptions.

He’s had boom games of 19, 37, 16 & 21. He also had a badly sprained ankle that we now know he tried to play through, and wasn’t effective.

And then Allen hurt his Elbow, effecting his performance as well.

He hasn’t lived up to expectations.

He has also not been a complete dud.

Perspective helps. I’m fine with my Davis ownership - I got him as a toss-in to an early 2021 deal (basically free) and dealt David Bell+James Robinson this preseason. I’d say I won both deals.

And he’s my WR4 in one league & WR5 in the other. And my 4/5 in redraft (6th round)

Not to mention, the season is not over - he may well have another boom game or 2. Time will tell.

I remain high on him, despite the to-date disappointing year. And I am pleased I have him for 2023 and beyond. Because dynasty isn’t about 1 season, and the kid is 23.

I’m not going to drop him to the waiver wire, and just because 1 person made a comment @Deamon didn't approve of doesn’t mean there were a mass of people being condescending. That’s just trolling at its best, which is why I’ve had Daemon on ignore.

It’s only when he pops up to troll some more that people quote things that I end up seeing. And it’s just as non-informative as everything else he contributes to this forum.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

think now it could be debated he isn't worth (1) 2023 late first

He’s not.

He’s still very young. He may well prove to be.

Well, good news is if there’s any dynasty leagues you’re in and you don’t own him you shouldn’t have any trouble acquiring him. I’d imagine he can be had for a 23’ 2nd nowadays. That’s what the owner in my league was trying to get for him before the season started but he never found a buyer.

I have him in both of my dynasty leagues, and acquired him pretty cheaply at that, but thanks - the world can always use more good news.

 

[jobarules]

Yeah dude sucks. I was wrong. I'll survive. Bumping posts with wrong predictions is clown stuff.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Yeah dude sucks. I was wrong. I'll survive. Bumping posts with wrong predictions is clown stuff.

I wouldn’t say he sucks. He hasn’t been as good as people hoped this year.

100% agree with the 2nd sentence.

 

[DropKick]

Yeah dude sucks. I was wrong. I'll survive. Bumping posts with wrong predictions is clown stuff.

In principle, I'll agree with you... However, this was beyond mere projections. This was "Al Bundy, 4 TDs for Polk High, never been done before" hyperbole that precluded level headed discussion on the player.

I was cautiously optimistic about Davis. He didn't rate highly with the Reception Perception guys originally, considered a lesser technician/route runner. I saw him as a hard working, blue collar type, trying to improve his game; good but not a great player in a fantastic situation. Went into the season with him as my #3 WR; he slipped to the flex and now may see the bench in the fantasy post season. He wasn't horrible; had an injury; his QB had an injury; a little too much bust and not enough boom.

 

[LawFitz]

I sniffed preseason glue and imagined him having a greater than zero probability of ascending to Bills WR1A status. Then I shared some of that glue with a leaguemate and we traded - my Davis for his DK Metcalf. Yay glue!

 

[The Duff Man]

Bills leadership also missed on their assessment of him. They were comfortable with him as WR2 on a team favoured to win the Super Bowl and had no real option behind him.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Bills leadership also missed on their assessment of him. They were comfortable with him as WR2 on a team favoured to win the Super Bowl and had no real option behind him.

i don’t think this is at all accurate.

Again: he’s had FF games of 19, 37, 21, 16, 12.4

He missed 1 game and was limited in 2 others with the ankle.

Allen hurt his elbow, and the Bills offense has scored 24, 27, 20, 33 (in OT), 31, 24, 28, 20 since. They’ve run quite a bit more than expected this year, and as I’d mentioned, the defense has been limiting opponents, allowing the Bills to be more balanced than expected.

Suffice to say, I wholly disagree with your assessment. Discounting the 3 games he was hurt/out, 5 of Davis’ 11 games he was at least a FF WR2, with a couple WR1 performances. The valleys have been low, but that doesn’t mean we ignore the peaks.

In RL, Davis is a dynamic playmaker who has helped the Bills win games. More than 1 of his catches in a down FF week has been a big 1st down to help win a game.

Convoluting his FF stats with a players real life talent evaluation / team assessment is kinda weird. The Bills have a 23 year old WR2 who’s a perfect compliment to when Allen goes off script. I assure you they’re very pleased to have him. Reportedly they’re less pleased with McKensie since they just signed Beasley.

Finally, it bears repeating that our resident 20-20 hindsight troll was *not* condescendingly bumping this topic after Davis’ 19, 37, 21 16, or 12 point performances.

Gee, I wonder why?

 

[Judge Smails]

Lots of really bad weather games the 2nd half is not helping anyone in the Bills passing game. Just sayin’

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Lots of really bad weather games the 2nd half is not helping anyone in the Bills passing game. Just sayin’

Exactly. Didn’t every BUF WR suck this week?

when you look at how this season has unfolded, Davis numbers don’t look too bad. All things considered he’s been WR40 in PPR, which includes the 1 missed game & 2 he played hurt.

Ahead of preseason FF darlings Dionte Johnson, Courtland Sutton, Drake London, Mike Williams, Keenan Allen, Jarvis Landry, Romeo Doubs, ARob, DJ Moore, Rondelle Moore, & Robert Woods - most of whom were drafted ahead of Davis.

Perspective matters. Looking at the big picture, it’s somewhat clownshoes to come in here trashing Davis based on expectations, when he’s actually been a pretty decent, if inconsistent asset. And again, at 23, plenty of room to grow/develop and in a great situation to do so.

 

[Deamon]

Yeah dude sucks. I was wrong. I'll survive. Bumping posts with wrong predictions is clown stuff.

I only quoted it because @Hot Sauce Guy said that nobody said what you did.

But also if you weren't calling people stupid who didn't take him in the 5th, then it would probably be a lot different. Glad you can be okay with being wrong though, I was also wrong about him and took him too high.

 

[Deamon]

And in that same league, his monster game with the 98 yard TD won me that week, and I made the playoffs by 1 win.

Some of this is recency bias. Note that resident troll @Deamon wasn’t posting in here after that game.

Once again bragging about your team. Do you ever make posts that don't talk about what great picks you made?

I’m not going to drop him to the waiver wire, and just because 1 person made a comment @Deamon didn't approve of doesn’t mean there were a mass of people being condescending. That’s just trolling at its best, which is why I’ve had Daemon on ignore.

It’s only when he pops up to troll some more that people quote things that I end up seeing. And it’s just as non-informative as everything else he contributes to this forum.

Doesn't get much lamer than gloating non stop about having someone on ignore, and clearly lying about it since you're responding to me. But hey, keep making things up if it makes you feel better about yourself.

 

[TartanLion]

Glad I resurrected this thread

Anyways, from my point of view, disappointing recently but a hold in dynasty and still very hopeful he can develop into something more.

 

[GroveDiesel]

I honestly don’t know what to think on Davis anymore. It feels like he’s been under performing and not doing enough, but at the same time, if you look at DVOA (depending on how you feel about FO), he is #10 in DVOA for WRs. He’s a good blocker and he helps stretch the defense vertically even when he doesn’t get the ball. But he’s dropped a bunch of passes and seems to disappear for huge chunks of time as well.

Link

 

[crushedspirit]

His fall coincided with the shift in Buffalo's offensive identity. Allen is no longer taking many risks deep, and so Davis has been mostly an afterthought. I have had him stashed on the bench for weeks now, and don't see him making the lineup anytime soon.

 

[KingPrawn]

Lots of really bad weather games the 2nd half is not helping anyone in the Bills passing game. Just sayin’

Agreed. But it is Buffalo. Those games were to be expected and should have been taken into account when projecting Davis' season.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I'll tell you how I feel about Davis. I was really high on him and was hoping he would ascend rapidly, but I have to say at this point going into the fantasy playoffs, I can't say I have a warm and fuzzy about him. Don't get me wrong, he's still startable over marginal RBs and even higher dart throws at WR and TE, but I hope you get my drift.

Davis obviously didn't live up to the hype - I was very high on him as well - but the entire Bills passing game has been a bit off, especially since Allen suffered that elbow (?) injury during the first game against the Jets. Davis also appears to be more of a "one trick pony" than I anticipated as he's mostly used as a deep threat, which except for the very elite is always going to be a boom/bust type player.

 

[Boston]

Still has value but gotta believe no one is in a rush to start him...the Buffalo passing weapons are a little odd...Diggs is fantastic but after that there is a lot of pretty good with guys like Knox and Davis who looked like they could get to the next level but have not...would not be surprised one bit if they add another legit threat (especially if they lose a shootout to either KC or Cincy) to that unit which could really dent Davis's value.

 

[smbkrypt24]

If I could acquire him for a 2023 or 2024 2nd rounder I would. He still has upside in that offense and is young.