jm192
Footballguy
I assume that's a typo and you meant the end of 22. I had him for that same stretch, and thought he was going to the moon last year. Beyond disappointed.
I've got him down around WR52, and don't think I'll see a lot of him.
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WR Jerry Jeudy, CLE (1 Viewer)
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I've got him down around WR52, and don't think I'll see a lot of him.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Yeah meant 22, got mixed up on the year there.
jumper
Footballguy
Watson seems completely broken. And since he got a huge guaranteed contract there's little incentive for him to push himself. Russ is better than Watson at this point; for as much grief as Russ gets in the Fantasy community he still was QB12 on the year.
100% in on Juedy and Watson at their cost.
-OZ-
Footballguy
steelcityman
Footballguy
What is the price on Watson now, QB26?
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Fool me once.....
Soulfly3
Footballguy
funnily enough, if you remove the game in which he got injured after 5 snaps, he avg'd the same fantasy pts/game (within 0.1 - 0.3ppg) as mahomes, herbert and stroud.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
....and if you removed Barry Sanders' long runs he's not a HOFer.
funnily enough, if you remove the game in which he got injured after 5 snaps, he avg'd the same fantasy pts/game (within 0.1 - 0.3ppg) as mahomes, herbert and stroud.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
....and if you removed Barry Sanders' long runs he's not a HOFer.
funnily enough, if you remove the game in which he got injured after 5 snaps, he avg'd the same fantasy pts/game (within 0.1 - 0.3ppg) as mahomes, herbert and stroud.
funnily enough, if you remove the game in which he got injured after 5 snaps....
I'll expand on both of these.
There are excuses and there are reasons and I think most people don't want to hear what they think are excuses with these two players but I think they are valid reasons when taken on the whole and when factoring in their price makes them two of my favorite players to draft.
Watson first.
He's only played 11 full games since he returned. The first 6 of those games were in 2022 and majority were in some foul weather. Then last year he barely played and per him might have hurt his shoulder in week 3, a game that I thought he looked like his old self. Then they tried to manage his shoulder after a few weeks off and had to end up shutting him down. Bottom line is we got a real small sample size of games, extremely tiny when you want to just took at games he's not got a bum shoulder and playing in some nasty weather and again I thought he was just starting to look like his old self last year before he got hurt. I think he's been prematurely buried.
Now Juedy.
He's the same age as Tank Dell, he's barely a year older then Ricky Pearsall. Just mentioning to highlight how young he is and that only matters in the context that he DID actually break out. I know people cling to the he never has had a 1K season stat but after a few week slow start getting to know Wilson/Hackett in 2022 he was full on breaking out.
The excuses/reasons for him are enormous.
I may get the count wrong but I think in his 4 seasons he played with 3 different head coaches and 4 different OC's.
His QB's the majority of the time were Drew Lock and Wilson.
He's been playing under stress of constant trade rumors for at least the last two seasons.
And of course the injuries.
There is a good chance, for sure if Watson regains himself, he'll be playing with the best QB in his NFL career in the most pass happy offense with a two time head coach of the year drawing up plays and he's going from being involved in constant trade rumors to stability of a long term multi year extension.
Last year in FFPC drafts in June he was going as WR21, 4.9, because again he had actually broke out the season before. Now despite being in what I view as the best situation of his career he's going as WR57 and about 8 rounds later.
All in at this cost, for both of them.
jumper
Footballguy
For me Jeudy is in the Curtis Samuel class of guys who solid real-life football players but for fantasy purposes are more "won't kill me if I need a bye week Flex" or whatnot. So a useful asset, but not someone I'm actively looking to target. He hasn't looked to me like a guy who only needed a change of scenery to become a fantasy superstar, and best case scenario Watson is back and *maybe* he returns high WR3 value?
steelcityman
Footballguy
So you got him at QB5?....and if you removed Barry Sanders' long runs he's not a HOFer.
funnily enough, if you remove the game in which he got injured after 5 snaps, he avg'd the same fantasy pts/game (within 0.1 - 0.3ppg) as mahomes, herbert and stroud.
funnily enough, if you remove the game in which he got injured after 5 snaps....
If my aunt had wheels she’d be a bicycle.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
So you got him at QB5?....and if you removed Barry Sanders' long runs he's not a HOFer.
funnily enough, if you remove the game in which he got injured after 5 snaps, he avg'd the same fantasy pts/game (within 0.1 - 0.3ppg) as mahomes, herbert and stroud.
funnily enough, if you remove the game in which he got injured after 5 snaps....
If my aunt had wheels she’d be a bicycle.
No, I don't have him at QB5, but him finishing as a top 12 QB wouldn't surpise me in the least. He's being crapped on, despite being actually decent in the games he played last season.
Hopefully he comes back fully healed and puts things back on track.
TheWinz
Footballguy
If you remove his one week where he barely played, he averaged QB16 numbers. Although that sounds bad, just know he had a higher PPG average than QB7 (Goff), QB10 (Tua), QB11 (Mayfield), and QB12 (Lawrence).
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Ya I mentioned that above... He was within 0.3ppg of all of herbert, mahomes and cj stroud. again, i don't think he's at their level (bar herbert) but he's definitely not a scrub.
just hoping for a healthy deshaun this yr
jm192
Footballguy
I'm doing a bit of a U-turn on him.
Courtland Sutton had 90 targets last season. Jeudy had 87. Javonte Williams had 58. McLaughlin had 32. Their top 2 RB's had as many targets as their WR1 and more than their WR2. I think Russ+/- the playcalling wasn't giving the WR's a chance to really succeed.
Don't get me wrong. I think Jeudy showed some maturity issues. But he's also shown very real NFL talent.
Now his success hinges on Watson--who has been pretty meh in Cleveland as far as passing. There's also the shoulder injury/surgery to worry about. There are videos of Watson throwing bombs in camp. And while I know we should take camp reports/videos with a grain of salt--I think we can safely conclude Watson's arm is "ok."
The other part of the Cleveland problem is they run so much and play elite defense. Enter Ken Dorsey who was running this amazing passing game in Buffalo the last few years. You have to think the passing attempts increase a substantial amount.
I've moved him from WR52 to WR48, which admittedly isn't much of a change. But he's going to go from someone I didn't really care about getting to more of a later round target.
Courtland Sutton had 90 targets last season. Jeudy had 87. Javonte Williams had 58. McLaughlin had 32. Their top 2 RB's had as many targets as their WR1 and more than their WR2. I think Russ+/- the playcalling wasn't giving the WR's a chance to really succeed.
Don't get me wrong. I think Jeudy showed some maturity issues. But he's also shown very real NFL talent.
Now his success hinges on Watson--who has been pretty meh in Cleveland as far as passing. There's also the shoulder injury/surgery to worry about. There are videos of Watson throwing bombs in camp. And while I know we should take camp reports/videos with a grain of salt--I think we can safely conclude Watson's arm is "ok."
The other part of the Cleveland problem is they run so much and play elite defense. Enter Ken Dorsey who was running this amazing passing game in Buffalo the last few years. You have to think the passing attempts increase a substantial amount.
I've moved him from WR52 to WR48, which admittedly isn't much of a change. But he's going to go from someone I didn't really care about getting to more of a later round target.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
I got a feeling Watson gets a little bit of a “get right” game going against the Giants and Jeudy is a major beneficiary of it this weekend.
Planting my flag.
125+ yards and a TD for Jeudy Sunday.
Planting my flag.
125+ yards and a TD for Jeudy Sunday.
TampaMike19
Footballguy
He’s not amazing but broncos were fools to trade him for nothing. At least he separates and gets open better than those clowns in Denver. Payton’s a moron
BladeRunner
Footballguy
Gosh, I hope so. I just picked him up on waivers.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
I started Keon Coleman last week so don’t put too much stock in my predictions.Gosh, I hope so. I just picked him up on waivers.
I do like Jeudy’s involvement in this offense though. And missed him in waivers this week.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
I started Keon Coleman last week so don’t put too much stock in my predictions.Gosh, I hope so. I just picked him up on waivers.
I do like Jeudy’s involvement in this offense though. And missed him in waivers this week.
Hah! Your predictions are about as good as mine then.
Guess he's in position to own the lions share of that 170 passing yards a game this offense provides.
Seriously though he should be in a better position, I had put him in my cut list this morning in a league I have Aubrey and need to clear a spot for a K but will have to cut someone else.
Seriously though he should be in a better position, I had put him in my cut list this morning in a league I have Aubrey and need to clear a spot for a K but will have to cut someone else.
Birdie048
Footballguy
Not the positive statement I was expecting ... "Drops 2 of 4 targets"
taylormeetstheismann
Footballguy
He got a huge pay day. Why should I believe he isn’t that good?
TampaMike19
Footballguy
You’re acting as if the browns are actually good at handing out contracts these days lol
Jeudy got paid wr2 money- which doesn’t move the needle a ton for a real life team.
I think jeudy is an inefficient but serviceable 800-900 yard guy a year. The wr1 is either Tillman or not on the roster
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Shouldn’t be that hard if you have vision.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Good point, Cleveland would never have waste money on a bad player.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Shawnky
Footballguy
lol. Why not trade him instead of paying him what….the 15-18 mil he would have demanded. The guy has all the talent in the world but zero work ethic. Payton’s actually a genius. It’s just like when he traded Brandin Cooks. The 2 picks he turned into Ramczyk and Trey Hendrickson.
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Yeah- I mean an above average receiver Is worth good coin these days in the NFL- just not sure if Jeudy has it really. He's OK- nothing special. think Denver still needed a guy that can move the chains in zone coverage
Shawnky
Footballguy
I’ve lived in Denver since Jeudy was drafted. There have very little positive things said about him during his time in Denver.
The Frankman
Footballguy
Personally I feel that Jeudy isn't some amazing talent, but Jameis has made those type of fantasy WRs relevant in the past. He's worth a speculative grab on waivers but I'd prioritize the other Browns WRs (Tillman/Moore) ahead of him.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
I heard a few days ago that many people around the NFL had noticed a leap in JJ's game. Let's take a look at the stats and see.
Jerry Jeudy split stats for the year.
First 7 games:
21 receptions
124 receiving yards
0 TDs
Average per game:
3 receptions per game
17.7 yards per game
0 TDs per game
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Last 3 games:
18 receptions
294 receiving yards
1 TD
6 receptions per game
98 yards per game
.33 TDs per game
Jerry Jeudy split stats for the year.
First 7 games:
21 receptions
124 receiving yards
0 TDs
Average per game:
3 receptions per game
17.7 yards per game
0 TDs per game
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Last 3 games:
18 receptions
294 receiving yards
1 TD
6 receptions per game
98 yards per game
.33 TDs per game
Thank you Jameis!
taylormeetstheismann
Footballguy
Could this be explained by growing familiarity with the offensive?
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Another good game in poor weather conditions.
Jeudy steps up with key receptions to keep drives alive and posts good numbers.
Jerry Jeudy really is emerging into a solid #1 WR.
Jeudy steps up with key receptions to keep drives alive and posts good numbers.
Jerry Jeudy really is emerging into a solid #1 WR.
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
Forced to use him last night because of bye week hell. I’ll take 11.5 all day especially considering the conditions. But this is also the first time I’ve watched an entire game of his. Looks legit to me.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
I think this dude is an absolute stud in this offense
