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I'm sure it's true but the same can be said of anything in the right person's hands or minds. You could have substituted the word 'food', or any number of normally harmless things, and it could still apply to thousands and in the same, or similar, context. When we're dealing with a population of 315 million in the US alone there are always going to be tens of thousands affected by something in a negative manner due to their inability to cope with it normally. That doesn't necessarily make whatever it is causing the damage evil.
I'm thinking it's even money that he ever steps foot on an NFL field again. He has to pass a whole lot of tests (that are now likely to include alcohol) before he can even apply for reinstatement. If the NFL policy changes, then it'll be time to reassess, but for now, I'm not sure how anyone could actually believe that it's likely he'll stay totally clean and out of trouble for a few months, much less years.
Absolute truth. It doesn't matter what label you put on it; call it "addiction" or "bad judgement" or "irresponsibility" or whatever you want. But weed absolutely is a problem for some people. In ten years in mental health / family court I saw plenty of people using weed to self-medicate for depression, anxiety, you name it. For a lot of those people, it definitely wasn't as simple as "just stop," even when far more serious consequences than Gordon is facing were in play.
I think we sometimes forget that Fan stands for Fanatic. People are intrigued, pissed, bored, etc. it's all part of the sport and hobby.I'm aware of the world I live in... it obviously deeply saddens me.It's a bit selfish is all... fantasy commodities or not, they're still people. It's tragic, yet we seem to just look right past the tragedy. I know this is a fantasy football board and it's fine to ask "what does this mean for my fantasy team!?" The thread has gone beyond that 70 pages ago and there's really no reason why we should be this far into this thread circle jerking about how rotten Gordon is and how much he f**ked up and how it hurts our chances to win money in fantasy football. He may never play another down of football or maybe he makes a turn around but we should be looking at what can be done to help these kids vs what are they going to do for ME now is all I'm saying. Until we have something definitive to know what it means for our fantasy teams, it would probably be more productive discussing something else.
This isn't me trying to be holier than thou, I just can't understand how someone could look past the real issues here.
This is beyond fantasy football and you're lying to yourself if you think it isn't.
You are making this all a little weird and for your own sanity, please do not ever go on Twitter or scroll to see the comments of your local news station, or any station for that matter. In fact, you may want to remove yourself from the internet completely.
A one year suspension being the entire 2014-2015 season, which hasn't even happened yet I might add.
don't ask for any precedence, it seems to really rile them up.
Has nothing to do with his DUI.
I'm not following..
Players have to apply for reinstatement after a year suspension. They don't have to apply for reinstatement after a 4 game suspension.
That is not good news. Caffeine is pretty addictive.
I know....I drink about 8 cups of coffee a day and a couple Red Bulls on top of that :^ / But I even things out by drinking on avg 3 beers and 5 or 6 ozs of 100% de agave per evening :^ )
In this fantasy world where people make #### up, the word "addiction" has lost all meaning.
Well, part of the problem is the levels of addiction that can occur. We're talking the entire gamut from ridiculously low, like caffeine, to horrifyingly high, like heroin or alcohol. So here's the caffeine addict..."oh gee....it was awful. I felt like totally bad for 3 days" to the heroine addict or alcoholic "I had to go into forced rehab for 45 days and felt like I was going to die every single day, and I likely will never shake the urge to use it again"
From a physiological dependence perspective, caffeine is not ridiculously low at all. In fact, it's quite high (no pun intended). But, I do agree that the overuse of caffeine is likely less consequential than the overuse/abuse of other substances, including marijuana. I just take issue with the misuse of the term "addiction" in this context.
An addiction is still an addiction. You may want to differentiate between 'harmful addictions' and 'less harmful addictions'.
From one of your own professor....sound familarWell that was certainly a mature statement. I'll look forward to what I can aspire to. But seriously, if you have more credence in an agency with their own agenda then more power to you. Certainly a person with over 35 yrs of first-hand experience, a college education, and who is now 61 and able to look back objectively, hasn't learned a thing. But I'm sure you'll have another snide remark about stoners. And BTW, I've been out of mom's house for 41 yrs...probably longer than you've been alive 'kiddie'.Yeah because getting it from a couple of stoners sitting around in their moms basement is much better. Go smoke a J kiddies. Come back when you are grown up men and not children.Ha ha....yeah, as if the government doesn't have it's own agenda.And he thinks he's doing scientific research.That's what gullible Americans do when they don't have first hand knowledge. They depend on the government for information.Did that link come from a .gov? You are linking to a .gov on this topic?
I bet you wear whitey tighties.
Guy lost all credibility with me when he said the movie True Romance sucked. That movie is a classic, so the author cannot be trusted.From one of your own professor....sound familarhttp://www.relativityonline.com/home/marijuana-it%E2%80%99s-not-addictive-you-just-happen-to-smoke-it-constantly-2/Well that was certainly a mature statement. I'll look forward to what I can aspire to. But seriously, if you have more credence in an agency with their own agenda then more power to you. Certainly a person with over 35 yrs of first-hand experience, a college education, and who is now 61 and able to look back objectively, hasn't learned a thing. But I'm sure you'll have another snide remark about stoners. And BTW, I've been out of mom's house for 41 yrs...probably longer than you've been alive 'kiddie'.Yeah because getting it from a couple of stoners sitting around in their moms basement is much better. Go smoke a J kiddies. Come back when you are grown up men and not children.Ha ha....yeah, as if the government doesn't have it's own agenda.And he thinks he's doing scientific research.That's what gullible Americans do when they don't have first hand knowledge. They depend on the government for information.Did that link come from a .gov? You are linking to a .gov on this topic?
I think folks are still deliberating about whether Gordon is an addict or stupid or both right now. Hang tight, the punch line is near. I think he's probably just stupid, but am leaving the door creaked open for the addiction folks to chime in again.
That's a useful distinction in some circumstances. I have yet to be compelled by the argument that Gordon is an addict to marijuana based on what I know about the properties of marijuana its neurophysiological cascade of effects that in most instances are incongruent with the true meaning of addiction.
really? take your beef with the guy offline. while this thread is already off track, your need to monitor SF3's every move (or non-move) is ridiculous.I've been reading this thread and a few others with great interest. I don't think Soulfly was too far off base and I'm actually surprised he's taken a little vacation from this thread.
Only on this forum would a guy who completely screwed a thread, page after page, and create friction with so many regular posters with his bias remarks so out of touch get defended. So who is going to hold him accountable, or anyone accountable for that matter, if they do not get ridicule when they make so many bad comments or projections. Just like people in the media, no accountability for the comments they make, they just want to say them.
This is your first post you have made and it is defending Soulfly with a username created 2 days ago? Just sayin'.
Carter wasn't talking about Gordon from a football or business standpoint (as far as I could tell). He was saying the Browns should cut him, b/c it would be best for him. He said that his experience of getting cut was what opened his eyes and made him change his life.
Pointing out the lame stalking of a poster, isn't the same as defending that poster.Only on this forum would a guy who completely screwed a thread, page after page, and create friction with so many regular posters with his bias remarks so out of touch get defended. So who is going to hold him accountable, or anyone accountable for that matter, if they do not get ridicule when they make so many bad comments or projections. Just like people in the media, no accountability for the comments they make, they just want to say them.
How will they know if he had straightened himself out? Because he didn't get arrested for a year?
How about a little less discussion of settling scores and schaudenfreude and a little more discussion of fantasy football. For all the talk about how much Soulfly has ruined this thread, it seems to be just as bad when he's not posting as it was when he was.
If you are asking that many questions, I'm just guessing you don't know the answers yourself. Since all your sentences were virtually questions, I will answer for you.
Really? With all due respect, you need to get a life. Maybe go do some charity work or help an old lady.
They won't, only time will tell. However, they don't have a lot invested in him. He's under contract for 2014 for under $900K, and for 2015 for under $1.1M. If he is suspended for a year, I believe that his contract rolls over.
I'm not sure what about this forum's purpose or goals leaves any place for ridicule. "The Shark Pool is reserved for sharing NFL talk and fantasy football strategy discussion." Mocking someone hardly seems to contribute to either.Only on this forum would a guy who completely screwed a thread, page after page, and create friction with so many regular posters with his bias remarks so out of touch get defended. So who is going to hold him accountable, or anyone accountable for that matter, if they do not get ridicule when they make so many bad comments or projections. Just like people in the media, no accountability for the comments they make, they just want to say them.
ridicule is probably a bit much. but there are posters who like to stir the pot a bit too much, and it seems unfair to posters who don't switch their names every few months.I'm not sure what about this forum's purpose or goals leaves any place for ridicule. "The Shark Pool is reserved for sharing NFL talk and fantasy football strategy discussion." Mocking someone hardly seems to contribute to either.Only on this forum would a guy who completely screwed a thread, page after page, and create friction with so many regular posters with his bias remarks so out of touch get defended. So who is going to hold him accountable, or anyone accountable for that matter, if they do not get ridicule when they make so many bad comments or projections. Just like people in the media, no accountability for the comments they make, they just want to say them.
