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Added him this morning, then dropped him, then the off IR news hit and grabbed him again lol.
In 2022, from week 9-15 last year, when Williams was out and he was playing, he was WR 23. This year, in weeks 3-7, with Williams out and Palmer playing he was WR 22. Calculated from average points per game, not total points. PPR League.
It looks like you took your numbers from Chargers games 9-15, instead of NFL season 9-15.
Technically his injury took away his playing time so congrats, you were right!
I'm surprised to hear the bolded. I thought we'd hashed that out already and left it with "we'll see how it goes" and I just assumed by this point you'd have realized you sold Palmer short but I guess I assumed to much.
Disappointing that you chose to respond to this post and give me sarcastic congrats because Palmer got injured, rather than replying to my previous post, where I listed a lot of data showing that Palmer was basically a JAG to that point.
You are right that Johnston has been disappointing and has proven to be less than a JAG. So it turns out that he might not have been much of a threat to Palmer's snaps had Palmer not been injured. I was apparently wrong about that through 12 games, but that is more about Johnston than Palmer. That doesn't really change the fact that Palmer is basically a JAG.
I'm surprised to hear the bolded. I thought we'd hashed that out already and left it with "we'll see how it goes" and I just assumed by this point you'd have realized you sold Palmer short but I guess I assumed to much.
Disappointing that you chose to respond to this post and give me sarcastic congrats because Palmer got injured, rather than replying to my previous post, where I listed a lot of data showing that Palmer was basically a JAG to that point.
You are right that Johnston has been disappointing and has proven to be less than a JAG. So it turns out that he might not have been much of a threat to Palmer's snaps had Palmer not been injured. I was apparently wrong about that through 12 games, but that is more about Johnston than Palmer. That doesn't really change the fact that Palmer is basically a JAG.
I'm surprised to hear the bolded. I thought we'd hashed that out already and left it with "we'll see how it goes" and I just assumed by this point you'd have realized you sold Palmer short but I guess I assumed to much.
Disappointing that you chose to respond to this post and give me sarcastic congrats because Palmer got injured, rather than replying to my previous post, where I listed a lot of data showing that Palmer was basically a JAG to that point.
You are right that Johnston has been disappointing and has proven to be less than a JAG. So it turns out that he might not have been much of a threat to Palmer's snaps had Palmer not been injured. I was apparently wrong about that through 12 games, but that is more about Johnston than Palmer. That doesn't really change the fact that Palmer is basically a JAG.
I took the time to post a lot of data then. It was valid then and remains valid now.
I have watched every snap of Palmer's career. Particularly keeping in mind that he has played his entire career with Herbert as his QB, Palmer is a JAG IMO, or maybe just slightly above that level.
If Palmer is a JAG and Johnston has now proven to be below that level, at least for his first season, that doesn't change the fact that Palmer is still a JAG. Except now Palmer is a JAG coming off a non-trivial knee injury.
Also, we did leave it with "we'll see how it goes." And Palmer, due to injury, hasn't done anything since then. What is it that you think would have changed my opinion about Palmer?
Was not really looking for all this but here you go.,I'm surprised to hear the bolded. I thought we'd hashed that out already and left it with "we'll see how it goes" and I just assumed by this point you'd have realized you sold Palmer short but I guess I assumed to much.
Disappointing that you chose to respond to this post and give me sarcastic congrats because Palmer got injured, rather than replying to my previous post, where I listed a lot of data showing that Palmer was basically a JAG to that point.
You are right that Johnston has been disappointing and has proven to be less than a JAG. So it turns out that he might not have been much of a threat to Palmer's snaps had Palmer not been injured. I was apparently wrong about that through 12 games, but that is more about Johnston than Palmer. That doesn't really change the fact that Palmer is basically a JAG.
I took the time to post a lot of data then. It was valid then and remains valid now.
I have watched every snap of Palmer's career. Particularly keeping in mind that he has played his entire career with Herbert as his QB, Palmer is a JAG IMO, or maybe just slightly above that level.
If Palmer is a JAG and Johnston has now proven to be below that level, at least for his first season, that doesn't change the fact that Palmer is still a JAG. Except now Palmer is a JAG coming off a non-trivial knee injury.
Also, we did leave it with "we'll see how it goes." And Palmer, due to injury, hasn't done anything since then. What is it that you think would have changed my opinion about Palmer?
Was not really looking for all this but here you go.,I'm surprised to hear the bolded. I thought we'd hashed that out already and left it with "we'll see how it goes" and I just assumed by this point you'd have realized you sold Palmer short but I guess I assumed to much.
Disappointing that you chose to respond to this post and give me sarcastic congrats because Palmer got injured, rather than replying to my previous post, where I listed a lot of data showing that Palmer was basically a JAG to that point.
You are right that Johnston has been disappointing and has proven to be less than a JAG. So it turns out that he might not have been much of a threat to Palmer's snaps had Palmer not been injured. I was apparently wrong about that through 12 games, but that is more about Johnston than Palmer. That doesn't really change the fact that Palmer is basically a JAG.
I took the time to post a lot of data then. It was valid then and remains valid now.
I have watched every snap of Palmer's career. Particularly keeping in mind that he has played his entire career with Herbert as his QB, Palmer is a JAG IMO, or maybe just slightly above that level.
If Palmer is a JAG and Johnston has now proven to be below that level, at least for his first season, that doesn't change the fact that Palmer is still a JAG. Except now Palmer is a JAG coming off a non-trivial knee injury.
Also, we did leave it with "we'll see how it goes." And Palmer, due to injury, hasn't done anything since then. What is it that you think would have changed my opinion about Palmer?
Frankly when you got a point to prove you go overboard with your data, which you usually get from PFF. It's confirmation bias 101 to me the way you rely on whatever stats you want to prove your point and the convo's are just not that interesting to me, I can look up stats as well. Introducing stats is one thing, hammering away at them to prove your point as being the correct one is something else.
It's 2023 and most people here have access to watch every game as well.
You twisted the entire conversation from my original comment, which was that Palmers role was not descending and moved the goal post into an argument he was a JAG. While I don't agree that's also not the the least bit in line with what I said which was that his role, his playing time, was not getting reduced because even if he is a JAG he's the best option the team has. You took that comment and tried to avalanche me with PFF data when it was never what I was discussing.
And yes, I would have assumed his absence would have made that abundantly clear to you by now that's the best option they got at WR other then Allen and as such his playing time was never in jeopardy of being reduced.
I can honestly say I did not expect all of this from the comment I left to you today, was not meant to be that serious. I just honesetly assumed, as someone you know watches every game, that you'd know that this team has felt the loss of Palmer and that QJ was not ready to ascend and that it was plain to see they miss him and his role was not about to reduce.
Not to dredge this back up for others but I actually thought me making that comment few and reached a conclusion that it was a jerkoff thing to say on my part. My apologies. What I should have said instead was I just was not zesty to get into a deep statistical discussion on whether or not Palmer was a JAG or not because I was just of the thought process the real discussion was not if he's a JAG but if he's their best JAG to fill the main role opposite Allen. Appreciate a lot of your posts and info over the years so again my apologies for a response that belittled your posts or contributions.
So tempting....
This entire situation seems like an avoid. QB who has taken hardly any snaps....offense was mediocre WITH Herbert and Allen...RBs not even running well. I don't know. Could be another 3-0 game...except maybe LV wins this time.
He's not expected to handle a normal workload, so no, not this week, but maybe worth rostering and see if his health and performance this week enables him to do more in our final two weeks.
I have not seen this reported anywhere.
Ok but it's what Staley said.
OK. Thanks. But not being local I don't get to see his interviews or press conferences. Do you have a link for this?
Unfortunately I'm not local to San Diego either, read it earlier yesterday, did not have a link accessible when I mentioned it, Bobby Layne has now of course posted a video(which I had not seen).
Of those three, Odell is your far superior choice. I believe he missed practice simply for 'rest'.
I think Palmers been pretty solid for fantasy when either Wiilliams or Allen have been out.
I guess I just had higher expectations. He has had good games but also has been a ghost in games too. Overall hes OK, but there are other guys, even about 4 rookie WR's you can pick up this year and have similar production. Was hoping he could be a WR2 kinda guy but it seems he'll live in the WR3/WR4 territory for his career, which isn't terrible.
10.7, 10 and 18.3 this year before that last game he was clearly trying to gut it out and play through the injury which ended up putting him on IR. That's not ground breaking stuff but pretty much in line with his PPG production when either Allen or Williams are out.
Using last season and this one before that last game he tried to play through the injury he had 13 games without Allen or Williams and put up just over 13 PPR fantasy points a game. That's like high end WR3/low end WR2 range, basically in the PPG range of what WR's like Waddle and Kirk have/had been doing this year.
And most of those games that data comes from is last year when Herbert was ailing with his rib injury.
I never understood why some people act like he's been a bust when he's had his chance, certainly not a league winner but rock solid. And I define his chance as when Williams or Allen are out.
I guess I just had higher expectations. He has had good games but also has been a ghost in games too. Overall hes OK, but there are other guys, even about 4 rookie WR's you can pick up this year and have similar production. Was hoping he could be a WR2 kinda guy but it seems he'll live in the WR3/WR4 territory for his career, which isn't terrible.
10.7, 10 and 18.3 this year before that last game he was clearly trying to gut it out and play through the injury which ended up putting him on IR. That's not ground breaking stuff but pretty much in line with his PPG production when either Allen or Williams are out.
Using last season and this one before that last game he tried to play through the injury he had 13 games without Allen or Williams and put up just over 13 PPR fantasy points a game. That's like high end WR3/low end WR2 range, basically in the PPG range of what WR's like Waddle and Kirk have/had been doing this year.
And most of those games that data comes from is last year when Herbert was ailing with his rib injury.
I never understood why some people act like he's been a bust when he's had his chance, certainly not a league winner but rock solid. And I define his chance as when Williams or Allen are out.
On all my benches
