WR Matthew Golden, GB (3 Viewers)

[Alex P Keaton]

I trade my (I assume late) 2006 1st and a mid 2005 2nd to draft him @ #10

Generally not a big fan of giving up a future 1st unless it is for a difference maker

That said, if you can get him for two picks that are 20 years in the past, go for it

 

[bluemanfoo]

IMHO, Golden's comp is DeSean Jackson.

Also IMHO:

Love is an average to above average NFL QB, the offense is predicted on the run, Marshawn Lloyd is a capable backup RB, but not much more, and there are too many mouths to feed in a not-all-that-prolific passing game.

Buy:

Jayden Reed, in PPR, if he falls to a value pick.

Luke Musgrave for free on large roster/taxi squad formats (in case of injury break glass).

As much Josh Jacobs as you can possibly get your hands on. Golden, like everything else in GB, is more or less an enabler of Jacobs having a *monster* 2025.

At least that's how I see it, right now.

I don't think this offense is predicated on the run at all. I think they ran the ball last year, because the receivers stunk. Reed and Wicks were amongst the league leaders in drops. Watson was the only one getting separation but he's just not a #1.

For instance, in 2019, in LaFleur's first year, Rodgers was not comfortable in the outside zone blocking based offense. Rodgers threw 26 TDs, while Davante caught 5 TDs, and Aaron Jones scored 19 TDs. But they didn't want to be a running team. They ran out of necessity. In 2020, the zone based scheme "clicked" for Rodgers and he threw 48 TDs, Davante caught 18 TDs, and Aaron Jones' TD output went down considerably there after.

Likewise, GB ran the ball out of necessity last year, but they don't want to be a running team. They want to put up points, and they want the offense to "click" for Love as it did Rodgers. To get there, they clearly needed a #1 WR, which is why they drafted Golden.

The offense was adjusted after that first year of Rodgers and LaFleur to include Rodgers strengths from previous years and the offense LaFleur wanted to run.

Every offense gets tweaked every year, but the biggest factor in Rodger's success in 2020 was being more comfortable in the outside zone blocking system. If you watched the games it was obvious, and Rodgers flat out said so in interviews. Furthermore, Matt Ryan said the same. Like Rodgers, Matt Ryan was mediocre the first year Kyle Shanahan installed the outside zone blocking system in Atlanta. And like Rodgers, Ryan took off his second year in that system, in 2016. They both won their first NFL MVP in their second year in that system. Pretty obvious to me LaFleur wants it to "click" for Love like it did Rodgers and Ryan, but also seems obvious Love needs a #1 WR to get there. Whether Golden becomes that "alpha" is tough to say, but I really don't think it's rocket science to see what GB is trying to achieve.

 

[msudaisy26]

IMHO, Golden's comp is DeSean Jackson.

Also IMHO:

Love is an average to above average NFL QB, the offense is predicted on the run, Marshawn Lloyd is a capable backup RB, but not much more, and there are too many mouths to feed in a not-all-that-prolific passing game.

Buy:

Jayden Reed, in PPR, if he falls to a value pick.

Luke Musgrave for free on large roster/taxi squad formats (in case of injury break glass).

As much Josh Jacobs as you can possibly get your hands on. Golden, like everything else in GB, is more or less an enabler of Jacobs having a *monster* 2025.

At least that's how I see it, right now.

I don't think this offense is predicated on the run at all. I think they ran the ball last year, because the receivers stunk. Reed and Wicks were amongst the league leaders in drops. Watson was the only one getting separation but he's just not a #1.

For instance, in 2019, in LaFleur's first year, Rodgers was not comfortable in the outside zone blocking based offense. Rodgers threw 26 TDs, while Davante caught 5 TDs, and Aaron Jones scored 19 TDs. But they didn't want to be a running team. They ran out of necessity. In 2020, the zone based scheme "clicked" for Rodgers and he threw 48 TDs, Davante caught 18 TDs, and Aaron Jones' TD output went down considerably there after.

Likewise, GB ran the ball out of necessity last year, but they don't want to be a running team. They want to put up points, and they want the offense to "click" for Love as it did Rodgers. To get there, they clearly needed a #1 WR, which is why they drafted Golden.

Plus Love was playing hurt almost the entire year. They were trying to protect him and Willis by running more.

 

[smbkrypt24]

IMHO, Golden's comp is DeSean Jackson.

Also IMHO:

Love is an average to above average NFL QB, the offense is predicted on the run, Marshawn Lloyd is a capable backup RB, but not much more, and there are too many mouths to feed in a not-all-that-prolific passing game.

Buy:

Jayden Reed, in PPR, if he falls to a value pick.

Luke Musgrave for free on large roster/taxi squad formats (in case of injury break glass).

As much Josh Jacobs as you can possibly get your hands on. Golden, like everything else in GB, is more or less an enabler of Jacobs having a *monster* 2025.

At least that's how I see it, right now.

I don't think this offense is predicated on the run at all. I think they ran the ball last year, because the receivers stunk. Reed and Wicks were amongst the league leaders in drops. Watson was the only one getting separation but he's just not a #1.

For instance, in 2019, in LaFleur's first year, Rodgers was not comfortable in the outside zone blocking based offense. Rodgers threw 26 TDs, while Davante caught 5 TDs, and Aaron Jones scored 19 TDs. But they didn't want to be a running team. They ran out of necessity. In 2020, the zone based scheme "clicked" for Rodgers and he threw 48 TDs, Davante caught 18 TDs, and Aaron Jones' TD output went down considerably there after.

Likewise, GB ran the ball out of necessity last year, but they don't want to be a running team. They want to put up points, and they want the offense to "click" for Love as it did Rodgers. To get there, they clearly needed a #1 WR, which is why they drafted Golden.

The offense was adjusted after that first year of Rodgers and LaFleur to include Rodgers strengths from previous years and the offense LaFleur wanted to run.

Every offense gets tweaked every year, but the biggest factor in Rodger's success in 2020 was being more comfortable in the outside zone blocking system. If you watched the games it was obvious, and Rodgers flat out said so in interviews. Furthermore, Matt Ryan said the same. Like Rodgers, Matt Ryan was mediocre the first year Kyle Shanahan installed the outside zone blocking system in Atlanta. And like Rodgers, Ryan took off his second year in that system, in 2016. They both won their first NFL MVP in their second year in that system. Pretty obvious to me LaFleur wants it to "click" for Love like it did Rodgers and Ryan, but also seems obvious Love needs a #1 WR to get there. Whether Golden becomes that "alpha" is tough to say, but I really don't think it's rocket science what GB is trying to achieve.

I think this was something different. I think Rodgers got comfortable speaking to his strengths the second year after trying to allow the offense to be how it was the first year.

 

[bluemanfoo]

IMHO, Golden's comp is DeSean Jackson.

Also IMHO:

Love is an average to above average NFL QB, the offense is predicted on the run, Marshawn Lloyd is a capable backup RB, but not much more, and there are too many mouths to feed in a not-all-that-prolific passing game.

Buy:

Jayden Reed, in PPR, if he falls to a value pick.

Luke Musgrave for free on large roster/taxi squad formats (in case of injury break glass).

As much Josh Jacobs as you can possibly get your hands on. Golden, like everything else in GB, is more or less an enabler of Jacobs having a *monster* 2025.

At least that's how I see it, right now.

I don't think this offense is predicated on the run at all. I think they ran the ball last year, because the receivers stunk. Reed and Wicks were amongst the league leaders in drops. Watson was the only one getting separation but he's just not a #1.

For instance, in 2019, in LaFleur's first year, Rodgers was not comfortable in the outside zone blocking based offense. Rodgers threw 26 TDs, while Davante caught 5 TDs, and Aaron Jones scored 19 TDs. But they didn't want to be a running team. They ran out of necessity. In 2020, the zone based scheme "clicked" for Rodgers and he threw 48 TDs, Davante caught 18 TDs, and Aaron Jones' TD output went down considerably there after.

Likewise, GB ran the ball out of necessity last year, but they don't want to be a running team. They want to put up points, and they want the offense to "click" for Love as it did Rodgers. To get there, they clearly needed a #1 WR, which is why they drafted Golden.

The offense was adjusted after that first year of Rodgers and LaFleur to include Rodgers strengths from previous years and the offense LaFleur wanted to run.

Every offense gets tweaked every year, but the biggest factor in Rodger's success in 2020 was being more comfortable in the outside zone blocking system. If you watched the games it was obvious, and Rodgers flat out said so in interviews. Furthermore, Matt Ryan said the same. Like Rodgers, Matt Ryan was mediocre the first year Kyle Shanahan installed the outside zone blocking system in Atlanta. And like Rodgers, Ryan took off his second year in that system, in 2016. They both won their first NFL MVP in their second year in that system. Pretty obvious to me LaFleur wants it to "click" for Love like it did Rodgers and Ryan, but also seems obvious Love needs a #1 WR to get there. Whether Golden becomes that "alpha" is tough to say, but I really don't think it's rocket science what GB is trying to achieve.

I think this was something different. I think Rodgers got comfortable speaking to his strengths the second year after trying to allow the offense to be how it was the first year.

Did you watch the games? Because I saw almost every GB snap in 2019/2020. Also, should be able to google plenty of stories like these.

https://zonecoverage.com/2021/packers/rodgers-trusted-lafleurs-offense-this-year-and-thrived/
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/st...ke-jump-in-year-2-of-new-offense/79970302007/

But, once again, my main point is the Packers don't want to be a running team, they're shooting for a Ryan/Rodgers like leap with Love.

 

[darksideofoz]

IMHO, Golden's comp is DeSean Jackson.

Also IMHO:

Love is an average to above average NFL QB, the offense is predicted on the run, Marshawn Lloyd is a capable backup RB, but not much more, and there are too many mouths to feed in a not-all-that-prolific passing game.

Buy:

Jayden Reed, in PPR, if he falls to a value pick.

Luke Musgrave for free on large roster/taxi squad formats (in case of injury break glass).

As much Josh Jacobs as you can possibly get your hands on. Golden, like everything else in GB, is more or less an enabler of Jacobs having a *monster* 2025.

At least that's how I see it, right now.

I don't think this offense is predicated on the run at all. I think they ran the ball last year, because the receivers stunk. Reed and Wicks were amongst the league leaders in drops. Watson was the only one getting separation but he's just not a #1.

For instance, in 2019, in LaFleur's first year, Rodgers was not comfortable in the outside zone blocking based offense. Rodgers threw 26 TDs, while Davante caught 5 TDs, and Aaron Jones scored 19 TDs. But they didn't want to be a running team. They ran out of necessity. In 2020, the zone based scheme "clicked" for Rodgers and he threw 48 TDs, Davante caught 18 TDs, and Aaron Jones' TD output went down considerably there after.

Likewise, GB ran the ball out of necessity last year, but they don't want to be a running team. They want to put up points, and they want the offense to "click" for Love as it did Rodgers. To get there, they clearly needed a #1 WR, which is why they drafted Golden.

The offense was adjusted after that first year of Rodgers and LaFleur to include Rodgers strengths from previous years and the offense LaFleur wanted to run.

Every offense gets tweaked every year, but the biggest factor in Rodger's success in 2020 was being more comfortable in the outside zone blocking system. If you watched the games it was obvious, and Rodgers flat out said so in interviews. Furthermore, Matt Ryan said the same. Like Rodgers, Matt Ryan was mediocre the first year Kyle Shanahan installed the outside zone blocking system in Atlanta. And like Rodgers, Ryan took off his second year in that system, in 2016. They both won their first NFL MVP in their second year in that system. Pretty obvious to me LaFleur wants it to "click" for Love like it did Rodgers and Ryan, but also seems obvious Love needs a #1 WR to get there. Whether Golden becomes that "alpha" is tough to say, but I really don't think it's rocket science what GB is trying to achieve.

*that was Rodgers 3rd MVP season.

 

[bluemanfoo]

IMHO, Golden's comp is DeSean Jackson.

Also IMHO:

Love is an average to above average NFL QB, the offense is predicted on the run, Marshawn Lloyd is a capable backup RB, but not much more, and there are too many mouths to feed in a not-all-that-prolific passing game.

Buy:

Jayden Reed, in PPR, if he falls to a value pick.

Luke Musgrave for free on large roster/taxi squad formats (in case of injury break glass).

As much Josh Jacobs as you can possibly get your hands on. Golden, like everything else in GB, is more or less an enabler of Jacobs having a *monster* 2025.

At least that's how I see it, right now.

I don't think this offense is predicated on the run at all. I think they ran the ball last year, because the receivers stunk. Reed and Wicks were amongst the league leaders in drops. Watson was the only one getting separation but he's just not a #1.

For instance, in 2019, in LaFleur's first year, Rodgers was not comfortable in the outside zone blocking based offense. Rodgers threw 26 TDs, while Davante caught 5 TDs, and Aaron Jones scored 19 TDs. But they didn't want to be a running team. They ran out of necessity. In 2020, the zone based scheme "clicked" for Rodgers and he threw 48 TDs, Davante caught 18 TDs, and Aaron Jones' TD output went down considerably there after.

Likewise, GB ran the ball out of necessity last year, but they don't want to be a running team. They want to put up points, and they want the offense to "click" for Love as it did Rodgers. To get there, they clearly needed a #1 WR, which is why they drafted Golden.

The offense was adjusted after that first year of Rodgers and LaFleur to include Rodgers strengths from previous years and the offense LaFleur wanted to run.

Every offense gets tweaked every year, but the biggest factor in Rodger's success in 2020 was being more comfortable in the outside zone blocking system. If you watched the games it was obvious, and Rodgers flat out said so in interviews. Furthermore, Matt Ryan said the same. Like Rodgers, Matt Ryan was mediocre the first year Kyle Shanahan installed the outside zone blocking system in Atlanta. And like Rodgers, Ryan took off his second year in that system, in 2016. They both won their first NFL MVP in their second year in that system. Pretty obvious to me LaFleur wants it to "click" for Love like it did Rodgers and Ryan, but also seems obvious Love needs a #1 WR to get there. Whether Golden becomes that "alpha" is tough to say, but I really don't think it's rocket science what GB is trying to achieve.

*that was Rodgers 3rd MVP season.

My mistake, but my main points are still valid. Everyone thinks the Packers are a running team now, and I never once thought that's what LaFleur wants. They want the passing offense and Love to reach another level, and that was confirmed when they drafted Golden. I'm not sure if Golden is the #1 WR they are thirsting for, but they're trying...

 

[CletiusMaximus]

My thought is that if the Packers have a monster bell-cow season for anyone on offense - whether Jacobs or any one of the WRs - that means something has gone wrong with the plan. If LaFleur’s plan works as intended, fantasy players will (once again) hate the Packers offense because it will be week to week variance with no clear dominant fantasy player.

 

[TVT 0 N S T A]

My thought is that if the Packers have a monster bell-cow season for anyone on offense - whether Jacobs or any one of the WRs - that means something has gone wrong with the plan. If LaFleur’s plan works as intended, fantasy players will (once again) hate the Packers offense because it will be week to week variance with no clear dominant fantasy player.

Respectfully disagree.

I don't think LaFleur wants to run a stable of WRs out there every week. He'd gladly lean on an alpha 1 but I dont believe Golden is that caliber of player.

 

[JohnnyU]

My thought is that if the Packers have a monster bell-cow season for anyone on offense - whether Jacobs or any one of the WRs - that means something has gone wrong with the plan. If LaFleur’s plan works as intended, fantasy players will (once again) hate the Packers offense because it will be week to week variance with no clear dominant fantasy player.

Respectfully disagree.

I don't think LaFleur wants to run a stable of WRs out there every week. He'd gladly lean on an alpha 1 but I dont believe Golden is that caliber of player.

I also respectfully disagree.

I do think Golden will prove to be a very good WR1. I tried like hell to get him in my leagues and unfortunately was unsuccessful.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

IMHO, Golden's comp is DeSean Jackson.

Also IMHO:

Love is an average to above average NFL QB, the offense is predicted on the run, Marshawn Lloyd is a capable backup RB, but not much more, and there are too many mouths to feed in a not-all-that-prolific passing game.

Buy:

Jayden Reed, in PPR, if he falls to a value pick.

Luke Musgrave for free on large roster/taxi squad formats (in case of injury break glass).

As much Josh Jacobs as you can possibly get your hands on. Golden, like everything else in GB, is more or less an enabler of Jacobs having a *monster* 2025.

At least that's how I see it, right now.

I don't think this offense is predicated on the run at all. I think they ran the ball last year, because the receivers stunk. Reed and Wicks were amongst the league leaders in drops. Watson was the only one getting separation but he's just not a #1.

For instance, in 2019, in LaFleur's first year, Rodgers was not comfortable in the outside zone blocking based offense. Rodgers threw 26 TDs, while Davante caught 5 TDs, and Aaron Jones scored 19 TDs. But they didn't want to be a running team. They ran out of necessity. In 2020, the zone based scheme "clicked" for Rodgers and he threw 48 TDs, Davante caught 18 TDs, and Aaron Jones' TD output went down considerably there after.

Likewise, GB ran the ball out of necessity last year, but they don't want to be a running team. They want to put up points, and they want the offense to "click" for Love as it did Rodgers. To get there, they clearly needed a #1 WR, which is why they drafted Golden.

The offense was adjusted after that first year of Rodgers and LaFleur to include Rodgers strengths from previous years and the offense LaFleur wanted to run.

Every offense gets tweaked every year, but the biggest factor in Rodger's success in 2020 was being more comfortable in the outside zone blocking system. If you watched the games it was obvious, and Rodgers flat out said so in interviews. Furthermore, Matt Ryan said the same. Like Rodgers, Matt Ryan was mediocre the first year Kyle Shanahan installed the outside zone blocking system in Atlanta. And like Rodgers, Ryan took off his second year in that system, in 2016. They both won their first NFL MVP in their second year in that system. Pretty obvious to me LaFleur wants it to "click" for Love like it did Rodgers and Ryan, but also seems obvious Love needs a #1 WR to get there. Whether Golden becomes that "alpha" is tough to say, but I really don't think it's rocket science what GB is trying to achieve.

*that was Rodgers 3rd MVP season.

My mistake, but my main points are still valid. Everyone thinks the Packers are a running team now, and I never once thought that's what LaFleur wants. They want the passing offense and Love to reach another level, and that was confirmed when they drafted Golden. I'm not sure if Golden is the #1 WR they are thirsting for, but they're trying...

Do you think Shanahan / Niners are more of a running team or a passing team?

 

[socrates]

I trade my (I assume late) 2006 1st and a mid 2005 2nd to draft him @ #10

Generally not a big fan of giving up a future 1st unless it is for a difference maker

That said, if you can get him for two picks that are 20 years in the past, go for it

You are talking about potentially giving up Vernon Davis and Vincent Jackson. I dunno

 

[bluemanfoo]

IMHO, Golden's comp is DeSean Jackson.

Also IMHO:

Love is an average to above average NFL QB, the offense is predicted on the run, Marshawn Lloyd is a capable backup RB, but not much more, and there are too many mouths to feed in a not-all-that-prolific passing game.

Buy:

Jayden Reed, in PPR, if he falls to a value pick.

Luke Musgrave for free on large roster/taxi squad formats (in case of injury break glass).

As much Josh Jacobs as you can possibly get your hands on. Golden, like everything else in GB, is more or less an enabler of Jacobs having a *monster* 2025.

At least that's how I see it, right now.

I don't think this offense is predicated on the run at all. I think they ran the ball last year, because the receivers stunk. Reed and Wicks were amongst the league leaders in drops. Watson was the only one getting separation but he's just not a #1.

For instance, in 2019, in LaFleur's first year, Rodgers was not comfortable in the outside zone blocking based offense. Rodgers threw 26 TDs, while Davante caught 5 TDs, and Aaron Jones scored 19 TDs. But they didn't want to be a running team. They ran out of necessity. In 2020, the zone based scheme "clicked" for Rodgers and he threw 48 TDs, Davante caught 18 TDs, and Aaron Jones' TD output went down considerably there after.

Likewise, GB ran the ball out of necessity last year, but they don't want to be a running team. They want to put up points, and they want the offense to "click" for Love as it did Rodgers. To get there, they clearly needed a #1 WR, which is why they drafted Golden.

The offense was adjusted after that first year of Rodgers and LaFleur to include Rodgers strengths from previous years and the offense LaFleur wanted to run.

Every offense gets tweaked every year, but the biggest factor in Rodger's success in 2020 was being more comfortable in the outside zone blocking system. If you watched the games it was obvious, and Rodgers flat out said so in interviews. Furthermore, Matt Ryan said the same. Like Rodgers, Matt Ryan was mediocre the first year Kyle Shanahan installed the outside zone blocking system in Atlanta. And like Rodgers, Ryan took off his second year in that system, in 2016. They both won their first NFL MVP in their second year in that system. Pretty obvious to me LaFleur wants it to "click" for Love like it did Rodgers and Ryan, but also seems obvious Love needs a #1 WR to get there. Whether Golden becomes that "alpha" is tough to say, but I really don't think it's rocket science what GB is trying to achieve.

*that was Rodgers 3rd MVP season.

My mistake, but my main points are still valid. Everyone thinks the Packers are a running team now, and I never once thought that's what LaFleur wants. They want the passing offense and Love to reach another level, and that was confirmed when they drafted Golden. I'm not sure if Golden is the #1 WR they are thirsting for, but they're trying...

Do you think Shanahan / Niners are more of a running team or a passing team?

49ers have produced some great fantasy pass catchers (Deebo, Kittle, Aiyuk), but they have been more of a running team. Their passing hasn't been quite as potent, but it's absolutely not for lack of trying. I mean, they traded for Garoppolo and gave him the highest contract at the time, by average salary. And we all remember the disastrous Trey Lance trade, with the 49ers trading three first round picks and a third rounder for what they thought would be their franchise QB.

 

[zamboni]

My thought is that if the Packers have a monster bell-cow season for anyone on offense - whether Jacobs or any one of the WRs - that means something has gone wrong with the plan. If LaFleur’s plan works as intended, fantasy players will (once again) hate the Packers offense because it will be week to week variance with no clear dominant fantasy player.

Respectfully disagree.

I don't think LaFleur wants to run a stable of WRs out there every week. He'd gladly lean on an alpha 1 but I dont believe Golden is that caliber of player.

Who knows if Golden can assume that true alpha position, but I'm definitely being cautious on it. To be sure, the Packers went against their own grain and drafted a WR in the 1st round. That certainly points to Golden likely have a big role, but it's not like they have a bunch of scrubs around him. Reed, Doubs, Kraft, Musgrave and Wicks (excluding Watson here due to injury) may not be world beaters, but they're all capable of earning targets. Golden may still be the #1 per se, but that status may be much different than other teams' #1 WR in terms of target share.

 

[Blick]

My thought is that if the Packers have a monster bell-cow season for anyone on offense - whether Jacobs or any one of the WRs - that means something has gone wrong with the plan. If LaFleur’s plan works as intended, fantasy players will (once again) hate the Packers offense because it will be week to week variance with no clear dominant fantasy player.

Respectfully disagree.

I don't think LaFleur wants to run a stable of WRs out there every week. He'd gladly lean on an alpha 1 but I dont believe Golden is that caliber of player.

Who knows if Golden can assume that true alpha position, but I'm definitely being cautious on it. To be sure, the Packers went against their own grain and drafted a WR in the 1st round. That certainly points to Golden likely have a big role, but it's not like they have a bunch of scrubs around him. Reed, Doubs, Kraft, Musgrave and Wicks (excluding Watson here due to injury) may not be world beaters, but they're all capable of earning targets. Golden may still be the #1 per se, but that status may be much different than other teams' #1 WR in terms of target share.

I think that if any of those listed were capable of earning targets they would have. Time will tell if Golden can fill the void of a bona fide WR1 to take pressure off of the rest of offense, but the opportunity to do so is there. Combined with the draft capital, I'm willing to take the risk and draft him higher than consensus.

 

[JohnnyU]

The thing about Golden that makes me think he’s a WR1 is that he’s a lot more than a deep threat. He will catch passes all over the field.

 

[TVT 0 N S T A]

My thought is that if the Packers have a monster bell-cow season for anyone on offense - whether Jacobs or any one of the WRs - that means something has gone wrong with the plan. If LaFleur’s plan works as intended, fantasy players will (once again) hate the Packers offense because it will be week to week variance with no clear dominant fantasy player.

Respectfully disagree.

I don't think LaFleur wants to run a stable of WRs out there every week. He'd gladly lean on an alpha 1 but I dont believe Golden is that caliber of player.

Who knows if Golden can assume that true alpha position, but I'm definitely being cautious on it. To be sure, the Packers went against their own grain and drafted a WR in the 1st round. That certainly points to Golden likely have a big role, but it's not like they have a bunch of scrubs around him. Reed, Doubs, Kraft, Musgrave and Wicks (excluding Watson here due to injury) may not be world beaters, but they're all capable of earning targets. Golden may still be the #1 per se, but that status may be much different than other teams' #1 WR in terms of target share.

I think that if any of those listed were capable of earning targets they would have. Time will tell if Golden can fill the void of a bona fide WR1 to take pressure off of the rest of offense, but the opportunity to do so is there. Combined with the draft capital, I'm willing to take the risk and draft him higher than consensus.

Where are you considering taking him?

 

[TripItUp]

Torn on Golden...not an ideal physique and the packers have a mediocre draft record. Love didn't exactly have a great year last year and there are a lot of other viable target options.

Probably passing on in most draft.

 

[Ilov80s]

The thing about Golden that makes me think he’s a WR1 is that he’s a lot more than a deep threat. He will catch passes all over the field.

Yes, he's got a full receiver game. No idea if he can translate to the NFL or if his small college sample is totally for real. But if he does translate, he's got a Stefon DIggs kind of game where he can work all over the field and be a primary target.

 

[JohnnyU]

The thing about Golden that makes me think he’s a WR1 is that he’s a lot more than a deep threat. He will catch passes all over the field.

Yes, he's got a full receiver game. No idea if he can translate to the NFL or if his small college sample is totally for real. But if he does translate, he's got a Stefon DIggs kind of game where he can work all over the field and be a primary target.

Good comp

 

[bluemanfoo]

Wasn't willing to reach for him in my two drafts so far, but would have taken Golden at a reasonable price. He does not play as fast as his 4.29 forty time and obviously he's not the ideal size. But he has great hands, and one thing I've come to believe in Fantasy, great hands can make up for a lot. And, last year, the Packers WRs, as a whole, were terrible catching the ball.

 

[Blick]

My thought is that if the Packers have a monster bell-cow season for anyone on offense - whether Jacobs or any one of the WRs - that means something has gone wrong with the plan. If LaFleur’s plan works as intended, fantasy players will (once again) hate the Packers offense because it will be week to week variance with no clear dominant fantasy player.

Respectfully disagree.

I don't think LaFleur wants to run a stable of WRs out there every week. He'd gladly lean on an alpha 1 but I dont believe Golden is that caliber of player.

Who knows if Golden can assume that true alpha position, but I'm definitely being cautious on it. To be sure, the Packers went against their own grain and drafted a WR in the 1st round. That certainly points to Golden likely have a big role, but it's not like they have a bunch of scrubs around him. Reed, Doubs, Kraft, Musgrave and Wicks (excluding Watson here due to injury) may not be world beaters, but they're all capable of earning targets. Golden may still be the #1 per se, but that status may be much different than other teams' #1 WR in terms of target share.

I think that if any of those listed were capable of earning targets they would have. Time will tell if Golden can fill the void of a bona fide WR1 to take pressure off of the rest of offense, but the opportunity to do so is there. Combined with the draft capital, I'm willing to take the risk and draft him higher than consensus.

Where are you considering taking him?

I think I'd take Egbuka ahead of him, but not the TEs. So, 8.