WR Nico Collins, HOU (1 Viewer)

[rockaction]

Yes I would much rather have St Brown

I got what you were saying. I was commiserating about past pain, really.

 

[Down Under]

This guy is going to make my fourth keeper decision interesting in a TE premium league. I had drafted Kincaid in hopes of getting a keeper at TE, but I ended up with McBride and I think I am almost 100% sure I will keep him. So the fourth keeper comes down to Kincaid or Collins and Collins seems way in the lead, especially since I do not have a WR keeper.

Lots of things could change have between now and next year and it will be fun to analyze and debate Tank Dell’s future impact on Collins also. I also loved Tank this year and owned him in several other redraft leagues.

What a year for both Nico & the Texans!

 

[kface]

I'm jealous of people that lucked into this pick. He is Top 3 wr for the rest of his career in fantasy if not top. Stroud and him are going to be something for the next 7 years

 

[kface]

It took a few years but I don't feel as bad as I did that day when I missed on St Brown

Wow. I think for value and past scoring, I'd still rather have had St. Brown, but who knew? You had determination and college production vs. the size/speed combination with lack of college production. One translated by the end of his rookie year, the other we've seen this year what he can be when he's cooking.

Yes I would much rather have St Brown but like I said "I don't feel as bad now as I did that day"............I still rather have St Brown but 2 years ago when St Brown was balling out and Nico was doing nothing I felt horrible now I just "don't feel as bad"

I would way rather have this guy. St. Brown is benefiting from Goff and the system which is about to be turned on its head when they switch qbs and OCs. Stroud to Collins is $$$ for the next 1/2 decade

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

It took a few years but I don't feel as bad as I did that day when I missed on St Brown

Wow. I think for value and past scoring, I'd still rather have had St. Brown, but who knew? You had determination and college production vs. the size/speed combination with lack of college production. One translated by the end of his rookie year, the other we've seen this year what he can be when he's cooking.

Yes I would much rather have St Brown but like I said "I don't feel as bad now as I did that day"............I still rather have St Brown but 2 years ago when St Brown was balling out and Nico was doing nothing I felt horrible now I just "don't feel as bad"

I would way rather have this guy. St. Brown is benefiting from Goff and the system which is about to be turned on its head when they switch qbs and OCs. Stroud to Collins is $$$ for the next 1/2 decade

Counterpoint: I love Collins, but HOU is loaded with WR talent in Collins, Dell, and potentially Hutchinson. When Dell is healthy, Collins isn’t as much of a target sponge. I also expect HOU to become more balanced as their defense improves. They brought in a defensive minded coach. I expect their next draft to lean that way.

I love Nico Collins, but I have zero concerns about ARSB falling off if/when DET moves in from Goff or this system. ARSB has a knack for getting open in the short and intermediate levels, and has solid YAC ability.

So yeah - i still have ARSB firmly above him in my personal rankings.

Nico has a better ceiling for these preposterous boom games. ARSB a higher floor & IMO, long term outlook.

 

[kface]

It took a few years but I don't feel as bad as I did that day when I missed on St Brown

Wow. I think for value and past scoring, I'd still rather have had St. Brown, but who knew? You had determination and college production vs. the size/speed combination with lack of college production. One translated by the end of his rookie year, the other we've seen this year what he can be when he's cooking.

Yes I would much rather have St Brown but like I said "I don't feel as bad now as I did that day"............I still rather have St Brown but 2 years ago when St Brown was balling out and Nico was doing nothing I felt horrible now I just "don't feel as bad"

I would way rather have this guy. St. Brown is benefiting from Goff and the system which is about to be turned on its head when they switch qbs and OCs. Stroud to Collins is $$$ for the next 1/2 decade

Counterpoint: I love Collins, but HOU is loaded with WR talent in Collins, Dell, and potentially Hutchinson. When Dell is healthy, Collins isn’t as much of a target sponge. I also expect HOU to become more balanced as their defense improves. They brought in a defensive minded coach. I expect their next draft to lean that way.

I love Nico Collins, but I have zero concerns about ARSB falling off if/when DET moves in from Goff or this system. ARSB has a knack for getting open in the short and intermediate levels, and has solid YAC ability.

yeah - i still have ARSB firmly above him in my personal rankings.

Nico has a better ceiling for these preposterous boom games. ARSB a higher floor & IMO, long term outlook.

 

[kface]

It took a few years but I don't feel as bad as I did that day when I missed on St Brown

Wow. I think for value and past scoring, I'd still rather have had St. Brown, but who knew? You had determination and college production vs. the size/speed combination with lack of college production. One translated by the end of his rookie year, the other we've seen this year what he can be when he's cooking.

Yes I would much rather have St Brown but like I said "I don't feel as bad now as I did that day"............I still rather have St Brown but 2 years ago when St Brown was balling out and Nico was doing nothing I felt horrible now I just "don't feel as bad"

I would way rather have this guy. St. Brown is benefiting from Goff and the system which is about to be turned on its head when they switch qbs and OCs. Stroud to Collins is $$$ for the next 1/2 decade

Counterpoint: I love Collins, but HOU is loaded with WR talent in Collins, Dell, and potentially Hutchinson. When Dell is healthy, Collins isn’t as much of a target sponge. I also expect HOU to become more balanced as their defense improves. They brought in a defensive minded coach. I expect their next draft to lean that way.

I love Nico Collins, but I have zero concerns about ARSB falling off if/when DET moves in from Goff or this system. ARSB has a knack for getting open in the short and intermediate levels, and has solid YAC ability.

yeah - i still have ARSB firmly above him in my personal rankings.

Nico has a better ceiling for these preposterous boom games. ARSB a higher floor & IMO, long term outlook.

The beauty of fantasy is we all have different theories

But for me always take the stud wr with the extremely young stud qb. Collins situation couldn't be more stable for the next 7 years

 

[sheerterror]

It took a few years but I don't feel as bad as I did that day when I missed on St Brown

Wow. I think for value and past scoring, I'd still rather have had St. Brown, but who knew? You had determination and college production vs. the size/speed combination with lack of college production. One translated by the end of his rookie year, the other we've seen this year what he can be when he's cooking.

Yes I would much rather have St Brown but like I said "I don't feel as bad now as I did that day"............I still rather have St Brown but 2 years ago when St Brown was balling out and Nico was doing nothing I felt horrible now I just "don't feel as bad"

I would way rather have this guy. St. Brown is benefiting from Goff and the system which is about to be turned on its head when they switch qbs and OCs. Stroud to Collins is $$$ for the next 1/2 decade

Counterpoint: I love Collins, but HOU is loaded with WR talent in Collins, Dell, and potentially Hutchinson. When Dell is healthy, Collins isn’t as much of a target sponge. I also expect HOU to become more balanced as their defense improves. They brought in a defensive minded coach. I expect their next draft to lean that way.

I love Nico Collins, but I have zero concerns about ARSB falling off if/when DET moves in from Goff or this system. ARSB has a knack for getting open in the short and intermediate levels, and has solid YAC ability.

yeah - i still have ARSB firmly above him in my personal rankings.

Nico has a better ceiling for these preposterous boom games. ARSB a higher floor & IMO, long term outlook.

The beauty of fantasy is we all have different theories

But for me always take the stud wr with the extremely young stud qb. Collins situation couldn't be more stable for the next 7 years

Of course it could. We don't know who the true alpha [target wise] will be in that passing game when Tank is healthy. Nico is entering the final year of his rookie deal and for all we know he (or Houston) could price themselves out of resigning him. Theres also been some rumblings, at least around here, of Hou being a team that makes a play on one of these very good WRs that may shake loose. He's awesome, and had a breakout year and that's great, but top 3? Holy hell.

 

[Boston]

It took a few years but I don't feel as bad as I did that day when I missed on St Brown

Wow. I think for value and past scoring, I'd still rather have had St. Brown, but who knew? You had determination and college production vs. the size/speed combination with lack of college production. One translated by the end of his rookie year, the other we've seen this year what he can be when he's cooking.

Yes I would much rather have St Brown but like I said "I don't feel as bad now as I did that day"............I still rather have St Brown but 2 years ago when St Brown was balling out and Nico was doing nothing I felt horrible now I just "don't feel as bad"

I would way rather have this guy. St. Brown is benefiting from Goff and the system which is about to be turned on its head when they switch qbs and OCs. Stroud to Collins is $$$ for the next 1/2 decade

Slowik has been given a lot of credit for their O and there is a good chance he is in the mix for an HC job this offseason...

 

[kface]

It took a few years but I don't feel as bad as I did that day when I missed on St Brown

Wow. I think for value and past scoring, I'd still rather have had St. Brown, but who knew? You had determination and college production vs. the size/speed combination with lack of college production. One translated by the end of his rookie year, the other we've seen this year what he can be when he's cooking.

Yes I would much rather have St Brown but like I said "I don't feel as bad now as I did that day"............I still rather have St Brown but 2 years ago when St Brown was balling out and Nico was doing nothing I felt horrible now I just "don't feel as bad"

I would way rather have this guy. St. Brown is benefiting from Goff and the system which is about to be turned on its head when they switch qbs and OCs. Stroud to Collins is $$$ for the next 1/2 decade

Counterpoint: I love Collins, but HOU is loaded with WR talent in Collins, Dell, and potentially Hutchinson. When Dell is healthy, Collins isn’t as much of a target sponge. I also expect HOU to become more balanced as their defense improves. They brought in a defensive minded coach. I expect their next draft to lean that way.

I love Nico Collins, but I have zero concerns about ARSB falling off if/when DET moves in from Goff or this system. ARSB has a knack for getting open in the short and intermediate levels, and has solid YAC ability.

yeah - i still have ARSB firmly above him in my personal rankings.

Nico has a better ceiling for these preposterous boom games. ARSB a higher floor & IMO, long term outlook.

The beauty of fantasy is we all have different theories

But for me always take the stud wr with the extremely young stud qb. Collins situation couldn't be more stable for the next 7 years

Of course it could. We don't know who the true alpha [target wise] will be in that passing game when Tank is healthy. Nico is entering the final year of his rookie deal and for all we know he (or Houston) could price themselves out of resigning him. Theres also been some rumblings, at least around here, of Hou being a team that makes a play on one of these very good WRs that may shake loose. He's awesome, and had a breakout year and that's great, but top 3? Holy hell.

Agree to disagree I guess. You have 4000 yards and 35tds every year in an offense vs an unknown situation. I suppose they could go out and pay big bucks for a high end wr and that will change things. Addison could turn out better that Jefferson on Minn as well but right now the Texans are a stable and awesome offense.

 

[sheerterror]

It took a few years but I don't feel as bad as I did that day when I missed on St Brown

Wow. I think for value and past scoring, I'd still rather have had St. Brown, but who knew? You had determination and college production vs. the size/speed combination with lack of college production. One translated by the end of his rookie year, the other we've seen this year what he can be when he's cooking.

Yes I would much rather have St Brown but like I said "I don't feel as bad now as I did that day"............I still rather have St Brown but 2 years ago when St Brown was balling out and Nico was doing nothing I felt horrible now I just "don't feel as bad"

I would way rather have this guy. St. Brown is benefiting from Goff and the system which is about to be turned on its head when they switch qbs and OCs. Stroud to Collins is $$$ for the next 1/2 decade

Counterpoint: I love Collins, but HOU is loaded with WR talent in Collins, Dell, and potentially Hutchinson. When Dell is healthy, Collins isn’t as much of a target sponge. I also expect HOU to become more balanced as their defense improves. They brought in a defensive minded coach. I expect their next draft to lean that way.

I love Nico Collins, but I have zero concerns about ARSB falling off if/when DET moves in from Goff or this system. ARSB has a knack for getting open in the short and intermediate levels, and has solid YAC ability.

yeah - i still have ARSB firmly above him in my personal rankings.

Nico has a better ceiling for these preposterous boom games. ARSB a higher floor & IMO, long term outlook.

The beauty of fantasy is we all have different theories

But for me always take the stud wr with the extremely young stud qb. Collins situation couldn't be more stable for the next 7 years

Of course it could. We don't know who the true alpha [target wise] will be in that passing game when Tank is healthy. Nico is entering the final year of his rookie deal and for all we know he (or Houston) could price themselves out of resigning him. Theres also been some rumblings, at least around here, of Hou being a team that makes a play on one of these very good WRs that may shake loose. He's awesome, and had a breakout year and that's great, but top 3? Holy hell.

Agree to disagree I guess. You have 4000 yards and 35tds every year in an offense vs an unknown situation. I suppose they could go out and pay big bucks for a high end wr and that will change things. Addison could turn out better that Jefferson on Minn as well but right now the Texans are a stable and awesome offense.

You have a 1 season sample size and somehow are using that to claim it's amongst the most stable offenses in the league. This is beyond overreactionary as you continue to ignore other variables that would effect Nico's value - improved defense under a defensive minded hc, oc potentially getting hired away in the future, other top WR coming back, potential contract situation etc. Would these posts be taking place if he went 3/16 and hurt his ankle yesterday?

Again, I like Collins. But I can't see too many out there taking him in a start up over Jefferson, Chase, Lamb, AJ Brown, ASB, Marvin Harrison Jr, G Wilson, Olave, Waddle, and arguably Nabers, Odunze and even Puka.

 

[kface]

It took a few years but I don't feel as bad as I did that day when I missed on St Brown

Wow. I think for value and past scoring, I'd still rather have had St. Brown, but who knew? You had determination and college production vs. the size/speed combination with lack of college production. One translated by the end of his rookie year, the other we've seen this year what he can be when he's cooking.

Yes I would much rather have St Brown but like I said "I don't feel as bad now as I did that day"............I still rather have St Brown but 2 years ago when St Brown was balling out and Nico was doing nothing I felt horrible now I just "don't feel as bad"

I would way rather have this guy. St. Brown is benefiting from Goff and the system which is about to be turned on its head when they switch qbs and OCs. Stroud to Collins is $$$ for the next 1/2 decade

Counterpoint: I love Collins, but HOU is loaded with WR talent in Collins, Dell, and potentially Hutchinson. When Dell is healthy, Collins isn’t as much of a target sponge. I also expect HOU to become more balanced as their defense improves. They brought in a defensive minded coach. I expect their next draft to lean that way.

I love Nico Collins, but I have zero concerns about ARSB falling off if/when DET moves in from Goff or this system. ARSB has a knack for getting open in the short and intermediate levels, and has solid YAC ability.

yeah - i still have ARSB firmly above him in my personal rankings.

Nico has a better ceiling for these preposterous boom games. ARSB a higher floor & IMO, long term outlook.

The beauty of fantasy is we all have different theories

But for me always take the stud wr with the extremely young stud qb. Collins situation couldn't be more stable for the next 7 years

Of course it could. We don't know who the true alpha [target wise] will be in that passing game when Tank is healthy. Nico is entering the final year of his rookie deal and fo

r all we know he (or Houston) could price themselves out of resigning him. Theres also been some rumblings, at least around here, of Hou being a team that makes a play on one of these very good WRs that may shake loose. He's awesome, and had a breakout year and that's great, but top 3? Holy hell.

Agree to disagree I guess. You have 4000 yards and 35tds every year in an offense vs an unknown situation. I suppose they could go out and pay big bucks for a high end wr and that will change things. Addison could turn out better that Jefferson on Minn as well but right now the Texans are a stable and awesome offense.

You have a 1 season sample size and somehow are using that to claim it's amongst the most stable offenses in the league. This is beyond overreactionary as you continue to ignore other variables that would effect Nico's value - improved defense under a defensive minded hc, oc potentially getting hired away in the future, other top WR coming back, potential contract situation etc. Would these posts be taking place if he went 3/16 and hurt his ankle yesterday?

Again, I like Collins. But I can't see too many out there taking him in a start up over Jefferson, Chase, Lamb, AJ Brown, ASB, Marvin Harrison Jr, G Wilson, Olave, Waddle, and arguably Nabers, Odunze and even Puka.

Like i said, agree to disagree. I suspect he is in the conversation after JJ/Chase/Lamb depending on where the rookies land...

 

[menobrown]

Would imagine this guy will be one of the top "I can't believe I cut this guy" or "gave him away cheap in a trade" guys in dynasty discussion circles over the next few years.

I drafted him two leagues in round 3, cut him both times. For sure not alone as he's been cut a few times in my leagues and traded for peanuts in several.

 

[JoeJoe88]

Would imagine this guy will be one of the top "I can't believe I cut this guy" or "gave him away cheap in a trade" guys in dynasty discussion circles over the next few years.

I drafted him two leagues in round 3, cut him both times. For sure not alone as he's been cut a few times in my leagues and traded for peanuts in several.

I was very close to being in this exact group a couple different times.

I got Nico at the 5.04 in our rookie draft. I almost took him at the end of the 3rd because I didn’t think he’d make it back to me there and I didn’t have a 4th round pick.

Had him just stashed away on taxi until this season. He was an almost-cut numerous times, but I held onto him because I was a fan of his coming out of college and I thought there was a chance he just needed some decent QB play. Well, he got a more than decent upgrade in Stroud.

 

[JoeJoe88]

Just goes to show sometimes these throw-away 4th and 5th round rookie picks can really reveal some gems sometimes. Same guy in my league this past year got Reed in the late 3rd, Puka in the 4th and Tank in the 5th.

 

[kface]

Would imagine this guy will be one of the top "I can't believe I cut this guy" or "gave him away cheap in a trade" guys in dynasty discussion circles over the next few years.

I drafted him two leagues in round 3, cut him both times. For sure not alone as he's been cut a few times in my leagues and traded for peanuts in several.

Just shows you the power of the QB in making or breaking a wr...

 

[foxco]

Just goes to show sometimes these throw-away 4th and 5th round rookie picks can really reveal some gems sometimes. Same guy in my league this past year got Reed in the late 3rd, Puka in the 4th and Tank in the 5th.

I'd like to pay that guy to run my fantasy leagues cause I'm simply not nearly as good as that.

 

[sheerterror]

It took a few years but I don't feel as bad as I did that day when I missed on St Brown

Wow. I think for value and past scoring, I'd still rather have had St. Brown, but who knew? You had determination and college production vs. the size/speed combination with lack of college production. One translated by the end of his rookie year, the other we've seen this year what he can be when he's cooking.

Yes I would much rather have St Brown but like I said "I don't feel as bad now as I did that day"............I still rather have St Brown but 2 years ago when St Brown was balling out and Nico was doing nothing I felt horrible now I just "don't feel as bad"

I would way rather have this guy. St. Brown is benefiting from Goff and the system which is about to be turned on its head when they switch qbs and OCs. Stroud to Collins is $$$ for the next 1/2 decade

Counterpoint: I love Collins, but HOU is loaded with WR talent in Collins, Dell, and potentially Hutchinson. When Dell is healthy, Collins isn’t as much of a target sponge. I also expect HOU to become more balanced as their defense improves. They brought in a defensive minded coach. I expect their next draft to lean that way.

I love Nico Collins, but I have zero concerns about ARSB falling off if/when DET moves in from Goff or this system. ARSB has a knack for getting open in the short and intermediate levels, and has solid YAC ability.

yeah - i still have ARSB firmly above him in my personal rankings.

Nico has a better ceiling for these preposterous boom games. ARSB a higher floor & IMO, long term outlook.

The beauty of fantasy is we all have different theories

But for me always take the stud wr with the extremely young stud qb. Collins situation couldn't be more stable for the next 7 years

Of course it could. We don't know who the true alpha [target wise] will be in that passing game when Tank is healthy. Nico is entering the final year of his rookie deal and fo

r all we know he (or Houston) could price themselves out of resigning him. Theres also been some rumblings, at least around here, of Hou being a team that makes a play on one of these very good WRs that may shake loose. He's awesome, and had a breakout year and that's great, but top 3? Holy hell.

Agree to disagree I guess. You have 4000 yards and 35tds every year in an offense vs an unknown situation. I suppose they could go out and pay big bucks for a high end wr and that will change things. Addison could turn out better that Jefferson on Minn as well but right now the Texans are a stable and awesome offense.

You have a 1 season sample size and somehow are using that to claim it's amongst the most stable offenses in the league. This is beyond overreactionary as you continue to ignore other variables that would effect Nico's value - improved defense under a defensive minded hc, oc potentially getting hired away in the future, other top WR coming back, potential contract situation etc. Would these posts be taking place if he went 3/16 and hurt his ankle yesterday?

Again, I like Collins. But I can't see too many out there taking him in a start up over Jefferson, Chase, Lamb, AJ Brown, ASB, Marvin Harrison Jr, G Wilson, Olave, Waddle, and arguably Nabers, Odunze and even Puka.

Like i said, agree to disagree. I suspect he is in the conversation after JJ/Chase/Lamb depending on where the rookies land...

KTC currently has him at WR21 (not sure how recently these have been updated but I'm guessing fairly recent.). If you are this high on him, you should be making offers in every one of your leagues you don't own him, because there's a very strong chance his current owner doesn't price him like a top 3 dynasty WR the way you are. You should be able to get him very cheap relative to the perceived value you have given him.

 

[rockaction]

Just goes to show sometimes these throw-away 4th and 5th round rookie picks can really reveal some gems sometimes. Same guy in my league this past year got Reed in the late 3rd, Puka in the 4th and Tank in the 5th.

And what foxco said. He's either extraordinarily lucky or he's just good.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

ARSB sure looked good today.

 

[WaltonGoggins]

ARSB sure looked good today.

He and Breece have been outstanding fantasy playoffs

 

[Faust]

Can't-Miss Play: C.J. Stroud's improv act leads to stunning 3rd-down conversion to Nico Collins

 

[Buckna]

Just goes to show sometimes these throw-away 4th and 5th round rookie picks can really reveal some gems sometimes. Same guy in my league this past year got Reed in the late 3rd, Puka in the 4th and Tank in the 5th.

I'd like to pay that guy to run my fantasy leagues cause I'm simply not nearly as good as that.

Guessing IDP or FFPC or something. All those guys were in the 2nd to early 3rd in my leagues. Still the point remains.

 

[JoeJoe88]

Just goes to show sometimes these throw-away 4th and 5th round rookie picks can really reveal some gems sometimes. Same guy in my league this past year got Reed in the late 3rd, Puka in the 4th and Tank in the 5th.

I'd like to pay that guy to run my fantasy leagues cause I'm simply not nearly as good as that.

Guessing IDP or FFPC or something. All those guys were in the 2nd to early 3rd in my leagues. Still the point remains.

No IDP. 10 man 2QB TE Premium.

Reed went 3.07, Puka 4.04 and Tank 5.01.

 

[heckmanm]

Just goes to show sometimes these throw-away 4th and 5th round rookie picks can really reveal some gems sometimes. Same guy in my league this past year got Reed in the late 3rd, Puka in the 4th and Tank in the 5th.

I'd like to pay that guy to run my fantasy leagues cause I'm simply not nearly as good as that.

Guessing IDP or FFPC or something. All those guys were in the 2nd to early 3rd in my leagues. Still the point remains.

No IDP. 10 man 2QB TE Premium.

Reed went 3.07, Puka 4.04 and Tank 5.01.

Way more understandable with that info, especially 2QB

 

[Faust]

Next Gen Stats
Nico Collins caught all 5 of his targets against man coverage for 81 yards in the Texans' Wild Card win over the Browns.

Collins caught +5.2 receptions over expected against man coverage during the regular season, 4th-most in the NFL.

#CLEvsHOU | #WeAreTexans

https://x.com/nextgenstats/status/1746329650303992035?s=61

 

[Faust]

Ray G
There are LEVELS to the Elite WR gang, but with what Nico Collins was able to accomplish this season, there's a good chance he in 2024

@JordanBackes33 ran the numbers, and TxS correlation for Year X TxS vs the following year's PPG is .7497 #TrustTheTrinity #FantasyFootball

https://x.com/raygque/status/1746579944136642799?s=61

 

[Faust]

KPRC2’s Aaron Wilson reports, “There is definitely mutual interest” between Nico Collins and the Texans to sign an extension.

Collins is now eligible for an extension heading into the fourth and final year of his rookie contract. The former third-round pick finally lived up to his potential in 2023, going for 80-1297-8 in 15 regular season contests while averaging an impressive 16.2 YPR. Collins said if a potential extension, “If [the Texans] want to negotiate, we can,” but it doesn’t sound like he’s pressing to get a deal done this offseason, also adding he will “let it ride” if that’s what the team wants to do. Regardless, it sounds like an extension between the two sides is more a matter of “when” than “if.”

 

[Buckna]

Certainly a possibility to extend him now but Texans have A LOT of FA’s to extend this year. Could see them letting Nico go another year and keeping the tag in their back pocket if they can’t work anything out next offseason.

 

[Faust]

Pro Football Focus ranks Texans’ wide receiver as NFL superstar

Nico Collins is broadly viewed as one of the top young wide receivers in the NFL after tallying 80 catches and 1,297 yards in 2023. The folks at Pro Football Focus stripped that youth qualifier in its recent grading of wideouts from last season, placing Collins among the top of all receivers regardless of tenure.

Collins, a third-round pick by the Houston Texans in the 2021 NFL draft, finished 2023 as the No. 3 receiver in the entire NFL, per the PFF rankings. Miami Dolphins speedster and likely Hall of Fame wide receiver Tyreek Hill led the PFF rankings, with rising San Francisco 49ers star Brandon Aiyuk snagging the No. 2 spot.

Read PFF's write-up of Collins' ranking below:

"Collins ranked second in the NFL with an average of 3.11 yards per route run in 2023," PFF's Gordon McGuinness wrote. "It was a career year for the third-year Michigan product, who dropped just four of the 130 catchable passes thrown his way and forced 22 missed tackles on 126 receptions." Collins is undoubtedly a receiver on the rise entering 2024, though his ascent to No. 3 in PFF's ranking is surprising considering the pass-catcher talent across the sport. Dallas' CeeDee Lamb finished No. 6 on PFF's list despite snagging a league-best 135 receptions. Minnesota's Justin Jefferson needed just 10 games to tally 1,074 yards—one season after an 1,809-yard campaign—and yet he still finished No. 5 on the list. This isn't to criticize PFF's methodology, nor to suggest the outlet's rankings are sacrosanct. Instead, Texans' fans should revel in seeing Collins surrounded by the game's best wide receivers, a sentence rather unthinkable before the start of last season.

 

[Faust]

Texans WR Nico Collins: Houston's offense will be 'real dangerous' in 2024

 

[Ilov80s]

Nico just got a 3 year deal with $52 million guaranteed per schefty

 

[travdogg]

Nico just got a 3 year deal with $52 million guaranteed per schefty

3/72 total

Pretty cheap actually. Less than Devonta Smith got. Slightly more than Pittman got, and about the same as DK got. His 2023 was better than anything those guys have ever shown. Solid deal for the Texans, even if Collins likely is less productive with Diggs/Mixon added and a healthy Dell.

 

[massraider]

The WR1 for CJ Stroud for next few years.

How many WRs do I take over Nico in dynasty? Not a ton.

Just need him to re-sign in HOU.

Re-signed to a 3 year deal.

HOU got a lot smarter all of a sudden, no?

 

[Ilov80s]

Nico just got a 3 year deal with $52 million guaranteed per schefty

3/72 total

Pretty cheap actually. Less than Devonta Smith got. Slightly more than Pittman got, and about the same as DK got. His 2023 was better than anything those guys have ever shown. Solid deal for the Texans, even if Collins likely is less productive with Diggs/Mixon added and a healthy Dell.

He showed more in one season than Devonta. Now zoom out and look at all of their NFL and college careers, it’s not even close who has shown more.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Re-signed to a 3 year deal.

HOU got a lot smarter all of a sudden, no?

Yes!

I was very hopeful this would happen.

I recently dealt Mahomes + 2 IDP guys for a package of Herbert+Nico+2026 1st+2026 2nd.

Had more than a couple people tell me they didn’t like it because Nico was a UFA after this year.

Bam!

 

[JoeJoe88]

Well deserved. There’s still some folks who think last year was a flash in the pan for Nico, but not I. Dude can ball. I would expect numbers similar to last season with Diggs now in town, but he has the potential to really explode in 2025.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Well deserved. There’s still some folks who think last year was a flash in the pan for Nico, but not I. Dude can ball. I would expect numbers similar to last season with Diggs now in town, but he has the potential to really explode in 2025.

IMO Diggs is WR3 on that team.

Maybe I’m off-base, but he’s looked a little washed the last couple years. Might have the occasional boom game, but Nico & Dell are both better at this point.

regardless, I’m psyched Nico is tied to Stroud for the next 3 years. And I agree - last year was no fluke. Kid’s a baller.

 

[Jayded]

Well deserved. There’s still some folks who think last year was a flash in the pan for Nico, but not I. Dude can ball. I would expect numbers similar to last season with Diggs now in town, but he has the potential to really explode in 2025.

IMO Diggs is WR3 on that team.

Maybe I’m off-base, but he’s looked a little washed the last couple years. Might have the occasional boom game, but Nico & Dell are both better at this point.

regardless, I’m psyched Nico is tied to Stroud for the next 3 years. And I agree - last year was no fluke. Kid’s a baller.

I think you’re being hard on Diggs.

Plus, I really want CB2 to be covering Nico too. Actually, I’m really excited to see a CB3 trying to cover Tank Dell too.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I think you’re being hard on Diggs.

Plus, I really want CB2 to be covering Nico too. Actually, I’m really excited to see a CB3 trying to cover Tank Dell too.

Diggs performance on the field is what’s hard on Diggs.

If not for being peppered to the tune of 160 targets he wouldn’t have (barely) cleared the 100 catch mark with 107 for 55% completion %

The year before was a bit better 64% (154/108) but he also did that in 1 less game.

And now he’s 30, 31 in November.

I’m not saying he’s terrible - I just think Nico Collins & Dell push him back a bit. If I had Diggs I’d be selling on the bump his value seems to have received from the trade to HOU.

 

[Faust]

Texans' C.J. Stroud compares WR Nico Collins to Hall of Famer Andre Johnson: 'He's a generational talent'

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Texans' C.J. Stroud compares WR Nico Collins to Hall of Famer Andre Johnson: 'He's a generational talent'

This guy has gone from one of my fav underrated WRs to now overhyped

-I say with this love but he now is competing against Diggs all the time, it's insanity to treat Diggs like he's Mack Hollins walking on this team
Nico when he's healthy and on all cylinders, he is scary looking at WR when he catches the ball and has any type of open space to break the play open
I think a lot of these off season quotes are just background noise to distract from what reality is about to unfold on all 32 teams

I like Nico, Diggs, Tank Dell, maybe someone should just draft CJ Stroud at QB and you get the whole kit n kaboodle
I'm sure 1 of these 3 WRs will surge ahead, it's possible Tank Dell is the best value but I am leery of injury-off the field-could be a step back in '24
I like Nico, just feels like the hype train is running the ship right now

Nothing againt @Faust bringing us the best and most current news clips, it's good to see where the hype is and how it impacts ADP
It took MoP a little while to figure that out many years back but it's important to know what the popular opinion is even when it might differ from yours.

Good stuff

 

[travdogg]

Texans' C.J. Stroud compares WR Nico Collins to Hall of Famer Andre Johnson: 'He's a generational talent'

This guy has gone from one of my fav underrated WRs to now overhyped

-I say with this love but he now is competing against Diggs all the time, it's insanity to treat Diggs like he's Mack Hollins walking on this team
Nico when he's healthy and on all cylinders, he is scary looking at WR when he catches the ball and has any type of open space to break the play open
I think a lot of these off season quotes are just background noise to distract from what reality is about to unfold on all 32 teams

I like Nico, Diggs, Tank Dell, maybe someone should just draft CJ Stroud at QB and you get the whole kit n kaboodle
I'm sure 1 of these 3 WRs will surge ahead, it's possible Tank Dell is the best value but I am leery of injury-off the field-could be a step back in '24
I like Nico, just feels like the hype train is running the ship right now

Nothing againt @Faust bringing us the best and most current news clips, it's good to see where the hype is and how it impacts ADP
It took MoP a little while to figure that out many years back but it's important to know what the popular opinion is even when it might differ from yours.

Good stuff

Agreed.

There is a chance Nico draws the majority of double teams and finishes 3rd on the Texans in receiving.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

How do we think the positional situation is going to sus out with Collins, Diggs and Dell? Neither of the 3 have spent significant time playing in the slot. Surely they will want all 3 on the field as much as possible. I can see it playing out that Collins moves into the X position, Diggs into the Z position and Dell takes the slot. Mainly, I don' think they traded for Diggs for him not to be on the field most of the time.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

How do we think the positional situation is going to sus out with Collins, Diggs and Dell? Neither of the 3 have spent significant time playing in the slot. Surely they will want all 3 on the field as much as possible. I can see it playing out that Collins moves into the X position, Diggs into the Z position and Dell takes the slot. Mainly, I don' think they traded for Diggs for him not to be on the field most of the time.

I think Collins is the alpha, Dell is the deep threat & slot, and Diggs will be the inconsistent vet behind them.

I could be wrong.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

How do we think the positional situation is going to sus out with Collins, Diggs and Dell? Neither of the 3 have spent significant time playing in the slot. Surely they will want all 3 on the field as much as possible. I can see it playing out that Collins moves into the X position, Diggs into the Z position and Dell takes the slot. Mainly, I don' think they traded for Diggs for him not to be on the field most of the time.

I think Collins is the alpha, Dell is the deep threat & slot, and Diggs will be the inconsistent vet behind them.

I could be wrong.

If Diggs receives 136 targets over 17 games, that's 8 targets per week, at a 66% clip which is about his avg, I'll subtract a few points...
90/1050/7TDs

Diggs has maintained roughly 9-10 targets per game last 3 seasons, Texans MUST KNOW that prior to trading for him
If you give that to Diggs, where do you start shaving off Collins and Dell?
These are tough questions, no doubt

 

[travdogg]

How do we think the positional situation is going to sus out with Collins, Diggs and Dell? Neither of the 3 have spent significant time playing in the slot. Surely they will want all 3 on the field as much as possible. I can see it playing out that Collins moves into the X position, Diggs into the Z position and Dell takes the slot. Mainly, I don' think they traded for Diggs for him not to be on the field most of the time.

I think Collins is the alpha, Dell is the deep threat & slot, and Diggs will be the inconsistent vet behind them.

I could be wrong.

If Diggs receives 136 targets over 17 games, that's 8 targets per week, at a 66% clip which is about his avg, I'll subtract a few points...
90/1050/7TDs

Diggs has maintained roughly 9-10 targets per game last 3 seasons, Texans MUST KNOW that prior to trading for him
If you give that to Diggs, where do you start shaving off Collins and Dell?
These are tough questions, no doubt

Let's say Stroud has 560 attempts or so. The Texans had 592 pass attempts last season, and I suspect they'll have a better run game/defense this year.

Of that 560 I'd venture it breaks down like this:
Diggs-140 targets (25%) mostly in the under 20 yard range, could see him in the slot more than ever in his career
Collins-110 targets (20%) mostly of the deep variety, with some screens mixed in
Dell-100 targets (18%) mostly deep
Schultz-80 targets (14%) seams and checkdowns
Mixon-60 targets (11%) checkdowns mostly

That leaves 70 targets between Noah Brown, Brevin Jordan, Robert Woods, John Metchie, Cade Stover, and Dameon Pierce, which feels reasonable barring injury, and with the highest share likely going to Noah Brown.

Personally, I don't think much separates the top-3 fantasy wise. I'd choose Diggs if forced to pick, but based on early ADP, I think Dell is likely the best value. I think Collins could lead in TDs, but I think Diggs wins receptions, and I think Dell (or Diggs) could lead the team in yards.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

How do we think the positional situation is going to sus out with Collins, Diggs and Dell? Neither of the 3 have spent significant time playing in the slot. Surely they will want all 3 on the field as much as possible. I can see it playing out that Collins moves into the X position, Diggs into the Z position and Dell takes the slot. Mainly, I don' think they traded for Diggs for him not to be on the field most of the time.

I think Collins is the alpha, Dell is the deep threat & slot, and Diggs will be the inconsistent vet behind them.

I could be wrong.

If Diggs receives 136 targets over 17 games, that's 8 targets per week, at a 66% clip which is about his avg, I'll subtract a few points...
90/1050/7TDs

Diggs has maintained roughly 9-10 targets per game last 3 seasons, Texans MUST KNOW that prior to trading for him
If you give that to Diggs, where do you start shaving off Collins and Dell?
These are tough questions, no doubt

Yeah, it starts getting thin quick if Diggs gets that quantity of targets.

From 2023

Collins - 100 targets
Dell - 75 targets
Woods - 75 targets (51 to the remaining WRs)
Brown - 55 targets
Schultz - 88 targets (28 to other TEs)
Singletary - 38 targets (28 to other RBs)

Woods is really the only WR to take a significant number of snaps at the slot (49%), so I don't see his numbers diminishing that much. Schultz probably won't loose many touches and the RB room as a whole didn't participate in the passing game very much.

I suppose this distribution will be most likely:

Collins - 110 targets
Dell - 60 targets
Woods - 60 targets
Brown - 30 targets
Schultz - 75 targets
RBs - 35 targets

I just can't see a world where Diggs gets more than 110 targets (or 6-7 per game) unless there is some significant injury time between the trio of Collins, Dell, and Woods. Supporting 2 receivers with >100 targets isn't exactly rare, but it only happened 10 times is 2023 and most of those are with teams who have a stud TE (LaPorta, Kelce, etc).

 

[Leroy Hoard]

A plethora of receiving riches in Houston this year. Whoever you get, just make sure bring the QB with him.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

If you give that to Diggs

I don’t.