daveR
Footballguy
I doubt he has lost his knowledge or hands. He's always found a way to get open and make remarkable catches. My only question would be his post-injury physical attributes, his quickness (for separation) and his top end speed.
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WR Odell Beckham, Jr., Free Agent (3 Viewers)
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The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Odell Beckham, Jr. seems to indicate he's been offered only $4 million per year
As mentioned earlier in the day, any free agent who remains available this far into the process likely has overshot his market.
profootballtalk.nbcsports.com
“I’m just so confused where the quote is from me that said I want 20…..
all I’m sayin is 4 AINT enough,” Beckham tweeted."
massraider
Footballguy
What a bunch of sleazy ****heads PFT are.Odell Beckham, Jr. seems to indicate he's been offered only $4 million per year
As mentioned earlier in the day, any free agent who remains available this far into the process likely has overshot his market.
“I’m just so confused where the quote is from me that said I want 20…..
Not sure how anyone who watched his play and performance in his last few games during their SB run can say that.
I do think I'm going to be way off on my projected contract numbers though. Was basing a lot on some of the projectoins I saw and believed that were way off for some projected FA WR's the Robert Woods deal which made me believe those projections. That Woods deal looked like a bad contract at the time but the way this FA WR market has gone looks worse and worse.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
He hasn’t had a good year since 2016.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
And still he walks the streets as a homeless NFL Wide Receiver after injuring himself in Super Bowl 56
His stock is way down IMHO, the attitude that comes along with a damaged knee just doesn't seem to make a lot of teams salivate
OBJ for any number of reasons has done nothing close to what he did 2014-2016
His best years since then are pretty mild with 74/1,000/5TD, that's about 2 of those 5-6 years
He's ancient at this point and other than a mild 1 year deal, nobody is going to give this guy a ton of money right now or ever again
His glory days are behind him, he's not a No 1 WR, not sure he's an ideal No 2, he's a 3rd option and he shouldn't crave the spotlight as much
His stock is way down IMHO, the attitude that comes along with a damaged knee just doesn't seem to make a lot of teams salivate
OBJ for any number of reasons has done nothing close to what he did 2014-2016
His best years since then are pretty mild with 74/1,000/5TD, that's about 2 of those 5-6 years
He's ancient at this point and other than a mild 1 year deal, nobody is going to give this guy a ton of money right now or ever again
His glory days are behind him, he's not a No 1 WR, not sure he's an ideal No 2, he's a 3rd option and he shouldn't crave the spotlight as much
Anarchy99
Footballguy
He's homeless and unemployed because he (allegedly) wanted $20M a season after not playing last year after seasons with 319 and 537 receiving yards. He's learning the market for banged up 30-year-old receivers is pretty soft. I've made a comparison to Dez Bryant in the past. Anyone expecting the 2014-16 version of OBJ needs their head examined.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
You don't care for Mike Florio?What a bunch of sleazy ****heads PFT are.Odell Beckham, Jr. seems to indicate he's been offered only $4 million per year
As mentioned earlier in the day, any free agent who remains available this far into the process likely has overshot his market.
“I’m just so confused where the quote is from me that said I want 20…..
Gold standard in football journalism, anyone at NBC will tell you.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
He might be fighting for a roster spot and that's to say many teams don't even want to guarantee him 1 year, not for any real amount of money.
He might be better served signing after Week 1 when teams can freely cut him and more comfortable making him a part of the team.
He arrived in Los Angeles mid season and was needed for the final push.
Not many teams that are going to truly need his services right now.
Is he even a Top 25-30 WR in the NFL right now?
Anarchy99
Footballguy
For WR that played in at least 20 games from 2020-2022, in standard scoring leagues, OBJ ranks as WR40 in terms of fantasy ppg. Based on total fantasy points scored in that time, he ranks 85th.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
If we are talking less than $5M per year, I gotta wonder if broadcasting and promoting that bravado of his isn't a better option with a lot less injury risk
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
He must have a really good agent. Maybe he should give Lamar his phone number.
It's like an OBJ diss fest in here. I think it's gone to far.
Yes no one is expecting prime Odell but he was not a total waste in Cleveland. He had two healthy seasons and basically posted Terry McLaurin like numbers. Not great, certainly not rubbish, the guy goes 70/1000 and you'd think he was not in the league the way some people go on in here.
He gets traded to the Rams, takes a few weeks to learn things and starts heating up. Had a TD in 5 of the last 7 regular season games. Went 25/316/2 in basically 3 games and a quarter in the playoffs and SB. Very strong chance the Rams don't win the SB if they did not have him, that's not an exaggeration. I don't know, that seems kind of relevant to me.
He blows out his ACL in mid-February. So yes, when that happens you tend to not be able to play the next season.
He's probably going to be a Jet, and again he's not what he used to be and neither he or Rodgers are the warmest guys to pull for but just the same I think it's going to be cool if these two seemingly past their prime players can hook up in NY and try and bring back a little magic to their game and see if they can win some playoff games for the Jets. It's good drama and I'm going to be there for it.
And for fantasy purposes I think he'll be the Jets #2WR and a solid WR3.
Yes no one is expecting prime Odell but he was not a total waste in Cleveland. He had two healthy seasons and basically posted Terry McLaurin like numbers. Not great, certainly not rubbish, the guy goes 70/1000 and you'd think he was not in the league the way some people go on in here.
He gets traded to the Rams, takes a few weeks to learn things and starts heating up. Had a TD in 5 of the last 7 regular season games. Went 25/316/2 in basically 3 games and a quarter in the playoffs and SB. Very strong chance the Rams don't win the SB if they did not have him, that's not an exaggeration. I don't know, that seems kind of relevant to me.
He blows out his ACL in mid-February. So yes, when that happens you tend to not be able to play the next season.
He's probably going to be a Jet, and again he's not what he used to be and neither he or Rodgers are the warmest guys to pull for but just the same I think it's going to be cool if these two seemingly past their prime players can hook up in NY and try and bring back a little magic to their game and see if they can win some playoff games for the Jets. It's good drama and I'm going to be there for it.
And for fantasy purposes I think he'll be the Jets #2WR and a solid WR3.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
I'll take the under on that last line. I don't think he can stay healthy for one, and I think he has lost more than a step for two. His yards per game have dropped precipitously and have continued to trend downward, as has his catch%. He's been targeted half as often as he used to be. His yards per reception have consistently dropped. IMO, players that have had serious injuries and missed a lot of time don't generally drink from the fountain of youth once they hit 30 and start improving. He'll turn 31 mid-season. The #2 WR in GB the past 5 years has had fantasy ranks of 41, 38, 55, 68, and 65. I think whomever signs OBJ will regret it . . . and if he does go to the Jets with Rodgers, I think it stands a better chance of flopping than succeeding.
And now the Jets are on Zeke's shortlist too. How hilarious/unlikable can that team possibly become.
Hard Knocks would have a field day.
rockaction
Footballguy
As a Jets fan, I feel like John Lennon in "A Day In The Life."
I read the news today/oh boy
I read the news today/oh boy
Hey, Rodgers/Zeke/Beckham would be an all-time great trio...in 2016.
As an aside, I'm getting a little bit of a 2018 Vikings/2022 Broncos vibe from the Jets, where they think they think they are just a QB away but are in for a bit of a rude awakening about how close they really aren't.
ETA: My personal opinion, is that the Wilson/Davis/Berrios/Moore WR group is probably better than the Wilson/Beckham/Lazard/Hardman group, as well as being cheaper and younger.
massraider
Footballguy
Jets win two games in a row, fanbase becomes hilarious/unbearable depending on your tolerance level.
rockaction
Footballguy
The way the media would tell you, it's an intolerable fanbase. But the Jets fans in the SP are (myself excluded so that I'm not biased) some of the best on the board in terms of knowledge and temperament.
It's weird. You would not get that vibe from watching the Meadowlands on Sundays. Maybe it's just here. Again, excluding myself. If you ever look around wondering where the anchor is on a sinking boat...
Hu-Tang Clan
Footballguy
How much of that $15M per year does he need guaranteed?
grateful zed
Footballguy
that's down from 20.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
ESPN is reporting there are teams that may be willing to give OBJ $8M a year with incentives that would push it to $10M a season. That being said, the teams that might go that high may not be places Odell would want to go. A serious contender might not offer him anything close to that.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I could see him being a productive WR3 for the Cowboys. Lamb/Cooks/OBJ isn’t the worst trio I’ve seen.
I’m betting he works his *** off to get back to playing condition. He seems hungry for a career redemption arc.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Ok, never mind. He’s nuts.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I'm not sure he's nuts, but the diva definitely has an overinflated value of himself.Ok, never mind. He’s nuts.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Not to be a PITA, but was OBJ not motivated the past three years to work extra hard rehabbing his various injuries? Now he's going to turn a corner? He's already made $83M in his NFL career and probably another $8-10M in endorsements. Teams that considered him late in the season last year apparently said he wasn't ready to play. Maybe that's changed, but I am not sure hard work and motivation makes a 30-year-old, oft-injured WR any more likely to heal (or regain a step).
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
"After meeting in Arizona, the #Jets will meet with Odell Beckham Jr again in NJ and give him a physical on Monday."
Damn, and just like that he signs with the Ravens? WTF
Boone22
Footballguy
UP TO $18M. I’m guessing a LOT of incentives.
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Interesting. Rodgers to the Ravens? Lamar coming back? Odell believes in Huntley?
$15m guaranteed
that's... A Lot.
I know a lot of people in this thread called him crazy for seeking $15m and now got it and Shefter said his incentives were easily reachable so he probably beats what a few here laughed at him wanting.
Most of that $15m guarante is a bonus. It’s and one year deal but my guess will have dummy/voidable years in the deal, only reason to pay it out in bonus.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Do you think he signs in Baltimore “knowing”/hoping Jackson comes back?
Or just taking the money and hoping Baltimore figures it out?
