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WR Rashee Rice, KC (13 Viewers)

XWorthy is the #1 in KC now .. 4+ games is a lot to miss during the fantasy calendar.
I don’t think that’s how this works. Worthy will absorb some of that production for 4-whatever weeks.

Anointing him the WR1 forward seems like an overcorrection.
Agree on bolded. But I also think many are underestimating Worthy's role this year when they are both on the field together. I see a lot of posters pointing out Rice's target share last season as reason to take him around the 2-3 turn in redraft, but seemingly ignoring Worthy's growth towards the end of last season, as well as Hollywood Browns potential role as a strong #3 WR. I like Rice and all but just don't see the same target share that he got in 2024.

Worthy's growth last year at the end of the season and in the playoffs is interesting. He did it by changing from his usual style and instead began running the shorter kind of routes Rice was running.

Opposing defenses have not been letting the Chiefs beat them deep in recent years. The Chiefs either have no answer for it or dont care because they win anyway, but it's not a great thing for a deep threat WR like Worthy and before this news, he was a clear fade for me. But seeing how he did step into that shorter route role in Rice's absence is promising. They will probably continue to utilize him in this way while Rice is suspended. After that, who knows.
 
me. But seeing how he did step into that shorter route role in Rice's absence is promising. They will probably continue to utilize him in this way while Rice is suspended. After that, who knows.
The concern there is he’s tiny, and not particularly well suited to getting tackled over the middle on those quick hitters.

5’11/165 lbs doesn’t seem like an ideal frame to get clocked by a 6’1” 225 LB is all I’m saying. Rice at 6’1”/205 seems far better suited to taking those sorts of hits.
 
me. But seeing how he did step into that shorter route role in Rice's absence is promising. They will probably continue to utilize him in this way while Rice is suspended. After that, who knows.
The concern there is he’s tiny, and not particularly well suited to getting tackled over the middle on those quick hitters.

5’11/165 lbs doesn’t seem like an ideal frame to get clocked by a 6’1” 225 LB is all I’m saying. Rice at 6’1”/205 seems far better suited to taking those sorts of hits.

Then that probably increases his injury risk, but they successfully used him this way after Week 10 and through the playoffs.

Also probably makes me think he'll revert back to his deeper route role once Rice returns.
 
Soooooooooooooooooo...safe to assume he'll serve the time as like weekend times over 5 years? NFL probably suspends...3 games? 2 games?
 
Soooooooooooooooooo...safe to assume he'll serve the time as like weekend times over 5 years? NFL probably suspends...3 games? 2 games?
Again, he may never serve a day. Please read beyond the clickbaity headlines.

He can serve at any point over the next 5 years, and if he’s being a model citizen in his probation, he won’t serve time at all.
 
Soooooooooooooooooo...safe to assume he'll serve the time as like weekend times over 5 years? NFL probably suspends...3 games? 2 games?
Again, he may never serve a day. Please read beyond the clickbaity headlines.

He can serve at any point over the next 5 years, and if he’s being a model citizen in his probation, he won’t serve time at all.
Please try to assume better intent "clickbaity headlines" LOL. Real over the top level of haughtiness there...especially when you then go on to say kind of what I said "any point over the next five years."

There are two typical outcomes in cases like this that involve a jail sentence:
1. You serve on weekends - it's basically a nicer version of country club jail, honestly. Maybe @Zow of FFA fame can provide some expert insight - over the full period, a couple days at a time.
2. The sentence is fully deferred - and if you successfully complete all the other conditions, there is no jail time

Based on my reading (shocking beyond the headlines) and check into local stuff here (I live in Dallas at the exact intersection of his accident so it's a bit of big local news), the jail time isn't fully deferred. Making it likely, in my opinion, that he will serve it in a typical weekend here and there fashion. Probably in summers, whenever he can knock a couple days out at his convenience.
 
I've been thinking about the suspension....I think the bigger question is can the guy stay out of trouble for 5 years while on probation?

When I saw the video of his mom allegedly stealing the package I also began to wonder what was up with this dude. Five years is a long time to stay out of trouble and I hope only a felony violates his probation.
 
Please try to assume better intent "clickbaity headlines" LOL
Literally 3 headlines I read said that he would serve 30 days in jail.

It wasn’t until the fourth or so paragraph that they specify that he may never see a day inside.

Those were absolutely Clickbait and there’s not one thing I need to Assume better. I’m not Clickbait headline would’ve said “may serve up to 30 days“
 
IIRC he plead guilty

You generally don't plead guilty unless you know the sentence. It's extraordinarily rare for somebody represented by almost any attorney to enter a guilty plea without mitigating something the prosecution wants to do. This, given his legal team, was the best he could do. That's almost 100%.
Good point. He very likely plead guilty with this offer laid out in front of him.

You are likely also correct that under the circumstances it’s the best he could’ve done.
 
Please try to assume better intent "clickbaity headlines" LOL
Literally 3 headlines I read said that he would serve 30 days in jail.

It wasn’t until the fourth or so paragraph that they specify that he may never see a day inside.

Those were absolutely Clickbait and there’s not one thing I need to Assume better. I’m not Clickbait headline would’ve said “may serve up to 30 days“
My ask was not about the headlines but about assuming whether or not I read beyond them, friend.
 
IIRC he plead guilty

You generally don't plead guilty unless you know the sentence. It's extraordinarily rare for somebody represented by almost any attorney to enter a guilty plea without mitigating something the prosecution wants to do. This, given his legal team, was the best he could do. That's almost 100%.
Good point. He very likely plead guilty with this offer laid out in front of him.

You are likely also correct that under the circumstances it’s the best he could’ve done.
Rock is being humble - he's not talking about what's likely, he's telling you what happened. I'm more direct. It's a plea deal. He didn't just plead guilty and see what the judge would do. The prosecution and his defense came to an agreement on what a fair punishment would be in light of the evidence, each side's chances at trial, and the ability to avoid having to go through trial.

They signed the agreement, entered into the deal, and then the judge approved it. Technically the judge can set that aside and impose any sentence allowable by law (in many places, not sure if always or all places), but that is exceptionally rare. I've never actually seen it done outside of TV dramas.
 
I've been thinking about the suspension....I think the bigger question is can the guy stay out of trouble for 5 years while on probation?

When I saw the video of his mom allegedly stealing the package I also began to wonder what was up with this dude. Five years is a long time to stay out of trouble and I hope only a felony violates his probation.
Can't wait for the first...five...speeding tickets to accrue LOL. Although police presence on Dallas highways is exceptionally low.
 
Hollywood Brown, to the moon!!!
Loved him in college, sorely overrated as a pro.
His great burst has led to injuries which hasn't led to a maturity where he takes care of his bod better.
He's probably listed in a word doc draft for their injury report. Idk what but he'll be dinged up.
 
Rice signed a 4 year 6.5 mil rookie contract.

He's being sued for ten mil and after the plea deal (according to radio) they will now be looking for more.
 
Please try to assume better intent "clickbaity headlines" LOL
Literally 3 headlines I read said that he would serve 30 days in jail.

It wasn’t until the fourth or so paragraph that they specify that he may never see a day inside.

Those were absolutely Clickbait and there’s not one thing I need to Assume better. I’m not Clickbait headline would’ve said “may serve up to 30 days“
My ask was not about the headlines but about assuming whether or not I read beyond them, friend.
I wasn’t assuming anything about you. It just gets old seeing yet another person talking about jailtime that is unlikely to ever get served.

If you did read beyond the headline, it wasn’t evident from your post about a thing that’s probably not going to happen.
 
(Separate post) After that Seinfeld episode, we never decided what is proper and what is good Samaritan stuff. It's been debated a million times since but I don't think collectively we decided.

A woman had bad head injuries and face injuries.
Another was badly injured with a five year old in the car and didn't get any assistance for five hours.

Leaving the scene of an accident feels separate to me.
Not calling 911 is rrrreally awful here and I think very badly of Knox and Rice for this.

I also though, unfortunately, have negative thoughts for everyone that drove by and question cops and whoever. Not to pretend I know their job but I expect a major accident to be notice before five hours later.

I remember radio saying cops are supposed to drive a specific route so they cover all areas and this doesn't happen and I think that some cop got suspended a few days.

I'm very uncomfortable with this. This is the cliche third world country junk. Five hours suffering before help arrived is extremely unacceptable in our modern world in a major city of the US.

I think people will be fired. Maybe already have and idk. I think Rice and Knox and probably some cop are sooo "dead" in civil suits. A five year old boy sat for five hours writhing in pain...it's so damning.

After four years he will have made 6.5 mil.
They're expected to increase from 10 mil.
The going market for WRs is very high but they're not on probation. What will Rice make for his next contract?

Are you aware that we've gone thru a mass exodus in our country that brought millions of California people to Texas? There's a definite culture change going on in some parts of Texas. In California, they sue for gigantic sums of money. I don't follow this type stuff but I see it on a TL like everyone.

All of the above, I wonder if Rice will ever make another dime from the NFL.

Edit- four year old not five.
Here's affidavit info

Idk what I'm talking about. Like I said, I don't follow it, it just crossed my time line. It's simply that that info in a California civil court would be so damning. I do not know the difference between Dallas and Cali law or any of that either.
 
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IIRC he plead guilty

You generally don't plead guilty unless you know the sentence. It's extraordinarily rare for somebody represented by almost any attorney to enter a guilty plea without mitigating something the prosecution wants to do. This, given his legal team, was the best he could do. That's almost 100%.
Good point. He very likely plead guilty with this offer laid out in front of him.

You are likely also correct that under the circumstances it’s the best he could’ve done.
Rock is being humble - he's not talking about what's likely, he's telling you what happened. I'm more direct. It's a plea deal. He didn't just plead guilty and see what the judge would do. The prosecution and his defense came to an agreement on what a fair punishment would be in light of the evidence, each side's chances at trial, and the ability to avoid having to go through trial.

They signed the agreement, entered into the deal, and then the judge approved it. Technically the judge can set that aside and impose any sentence allowable by law (in many places, not sure if always or all places), but that is exceptionally rare. I've never actually seen it done outside of TV dramas.
I was also being humble, but as a “not attorney” I like to couch my words carefully so as to not sound like a know-it-all about things that are not my profession.

I assume there may be circumstances where a range of options are offered as part of a deal, and I’m reasonably sure a judge has to sign off on any such terms.

But again, not an attorney so I’ll leave that to those who are.
 
I wonder if Rice will ever make another dime from the NFL
Are you saying this tounge-in-cheek? I think he will plead guilty as is and serve his suspension, whether 2, 4, or 6 weeks. That will be it most likely, civil suit notwithstanding.
 
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I think people will be fired. Maybe already have and idk
I’m far more cynical. Police have qualified immunity. They can literally shoot an innocent person and nothing will happen to them.

You think someone’s gonna get fired over a car accident?

Are you aware that we've gone thru a mass exodus in our country that brought millions of California people to Texas? There's a definite culture change going on in some parts of Texas. In California, they sue for gigantic sums of money. I don't follow this type stuff but I see it on a TL like everyone.
I’m unclear as to your insinuation here. What does the fact that some Californians have moved to TX have to do with the Rice incident? Do we know that the victims are from CA?

I’m not picking up what you’re putting down here. How is this anecdote relevant to the Rice situation?
 
IIRC he plead guilty

You generally don't plead guilty unless you know the sentence. It's extraordinarily rare for somebody represented by almost any attorney to enter a guilty plea without mitigating something the prosecution wants to do. This, given his legal team, was the best he could do. That's almost 100%.
Good point. He very likely plead guilty with this offer laid out in front of him.

You are likely also correct that under the circumstances it’s the best he could’ve done.
Rock is being humble - he's not talking about what's likely, he's telling you what happened. I'm more direct. It's a plea deal. He didn't just plead guilty and see what the judge would do. The prosecution and his defense came to an agreement on what a fair punishment would be in light of the evidence, each side's chances at trial, and the ability to avoid having to go through trial.

They signed the agreement, entered into the deal, and then the judge approved it. Technically the judge can set that aside and impose any sentence allowable by law (in many places, not sure if always or all places), but that is exceptionally rare. I've never actually seen it done outside of TV dramas.
I was also being humble, but as a “not attorney” I like to couch my words carefully so as to not sound like a know-it-all about things that are not my profession.

I assume there may be circumstances where a range of options are offered as part of a deal, and I’m reasonably sure a judge has to sign off on any such terms.

But again, not an attorney so I’ll leave that to those who are.
Rock and I are. That's my point. You're not coming off as humble. You're coming off as a know it all about things that are not your profession lol.
 
Please try to assume better intent "clickbaity headlines" LOL
Literally 3 headlines I read said that he would serve 30 days in jail.

It wasn’t until the fourth or so paragraph that they specify that he may never see a day inside.

Those were absolutely Clickbait and there’s not one thing I need to Assume better. I’m not Clickbait headline would’ve said “may serve up to 30 days“
My ask was not about the headlines but about assuming whether or not I read beyond them, friend.
I wasn’t assuming anything about you. It just gets old seeing yet another person talking about jailtime that is unlikely to ever get served.

If you did read beyond the headline, it wasn’t evident from your post about a thing that’s probably not going to happen.
To make my post more clear:

As of today, he is likely to serve the 30 days. He is likely to serve it in weekend jail, at his convenience, 1-3 days at a time, over the next five years. I was trying to take a shortcut and see if someone knew that without me having to search for the plea deal reporting and ask a friend who currently practices here. Then this insult came up so I just did the work. And shared the actual answer.
 
IIRC he plead guilty

You generally don't plead guilty unless you know the sentence. It's extraordinarily rare for somebody represented by almost any attorney to enter a guilty plea without mitigating something the prosecution wants to do. This, given his legal team, was the best he could do. That's almost 100%.
Good point. He very likely plead guilty with this offer laid out in front of him.

You are likely also correct that under the circumstances it’s the best he could’ve done.
Rock is being humble - he's not talking about what's likely, he's telling you what happened. I'm more direct. It's a plea deal. He didn't just plead guilty and see what the judge would do. The prosecution and his defense came to an agreement on what a fair punishment would be in light of the evidence, each side's chances at trial, and the ability to avoid having to go through trial.

They signed the agreement, entered into the deal, and then the judge approved it. Technically the judge can set that aside and impose any sentence allowable by law (in many places, not sure if always or all places), but that is exceptionally rare. I've never actually seen it done outside of TV dramas.
I was also being humble, but as a “not attorney” I like to couch my words carefully so as to not sound like a know-it-all about things that are not my profession.

I assume there may be circumstances where a range of options are offered as part of a deal, and I’m reasonably sure a judge has to sign off on any such terms.

But again, not an attorney so I’ll leave that to those who are.
Rock and I are. That's my point. You're not coming off as humble. You're coming off as a know it all about things that are not your profession lol.
Everyone is allowed an opinion, or two, or three without being labeled as a know-it-all. Now that boy with glasses in The Polar Express was a know-it-all :) Me however, I was wrong once. I believe it was Jan 12, 1980.
 
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IIRC he plead guilty

You generally don't plead guilty unless you know the sentence. It's extraordinarily rare for somebody represented by almost any attorney to enter a guilty plea without mitigating something the prosecution wants to do. This, given his legal team, was the best he could do. That's almost 100%.
Good point. He very likely plead guilty with this offer laid out in front of him.

You are likely also correct that under the circumstances it’s the best he could’ve done.
Rock is being humble - he's not talking about what's likely, he's telling you what happened. I'm more direct. It's a plea deal. He didn't just plead guilty and see what the judge would do. The prosecution and his defense came to an agreement on what a fair punishment would be in light of the evidence, each side's chances at trial, and the ability to avoid having to go through trial.

They signed the agreement, entered into the deal, and then the judge approved it. Technically the judge can set that aside and impose any sentence allowable by law (in many places, not sure if always or all places), but that is exceptionally rare. I've never actually seen it done outside of TV dramas.
I was also being humble, but as a “not attorney” I like to couch my words carefully so as to not sound like a know-it-all about things that are not my profession.

I assume there may be circumstances where a range of options are offered as part of a deal, and I’m reasonably sure a judge has to sign off on any such terms.

But again, not an attorney so I’ll leave that to those who are.
Rock and I are. That's my point. You're not coming off as humble. You're coming off as a know it all about things that are not your profession lol.
Everyone is allowed an opinion, or two, or three without being labeled as a know-it-all. Now that boy with glasses in The Polar Express was a know-it-all :) Me however, I was wrong once. I believe it was Jan 12, 1980.
Sure, but some opinions are uninformed and dumb, and when its obvious and they don't take new information into account...that's when the labels come in.

Now if we want to talk about times I was wrong...it all begins back in the day. I was born at a young age...
 
I wonder if Rice will ever make another dime from the NFL
Are you saying this tounge-in-cheek? I think he will plead guilty as is and serve his suspension, whether 2, 4, or 6 weeks. That will be it most likely.
No
I don't know civil law and those lawsuits.
I only know these big sums cross my timeline and I rarely ever click.
I think he will be sued for at least his whole salary in the NFL.
It is already at 10 mil and he will "only" make 6.5 when the rookie contract is done and they're saying on the radio that it is definitely increasing and common practice to increase it after a plea is agreed since that's an admission of guilt.
Idk this stuff
Woman will never walk right again. Woman's face is permanently different due to injuries. Four year old suffering. My scrolling memory believes people sue for a ton more than that for these things.

Nothing pretentious here. I just scroll and don't read. I swear every other day someone is being sued for way more than 10mil. Last I learned of California civil law was probably OJ but I have seen over the years that that's how many people from California believe the system should be. For example Diddy wasn't convicted yet faces more than 90 civil suits. I've been told many times it's not just Cali but started there.

I guess I'm stuck in 1980 or TV or somesuch. My brain has a judge ordering a sentence and punishment/award. This second trial stuff is a bit over my head but as I understand it- if they can convince a jury, the criminal is paying a truckload of $. Rice leaving the scene and the suffering...it seems to me like he's going to have to pay huge $.

I would definitely like someone to reply and splain this to me like I'm Desi. I clearly only have a vague idea
 
I think people will be fired. Maybe already have and idk
I’m far more cynical. Police have qualified immunity. They can literally shoot an innocent person and nothing will happen to them.

You think someone’s gonna get fired over a car accident?
Maybe
I think each step I've stated how I'm very unsure what I'm talking about here so not coming from a point of view of any certainty whatsoever.
I think people of Dallas and North Richland Hills will (or were. It's been some time. It could have already happened) be fired up that someone suffered for five hours on a main road. They may have already been calling for someone's resignation
 
I wonder if Rice will ever make another dime from the NFL
Are you saying this tounge-in-cheek? I think he will plead guilty as is and serve his suspension, whether 2, 4, or 6 weeks. That will be it most likely.
No
I don't know civil law and those lawsuits.
I only know these big sums cross my timeline and I rarely ever click.
I think he will be sued for at least his whole salary in the NFL.
It is already at 10 mil and he will "only" make 6.5 when the rookie contract is done and they're saying on the radio that it is definitely increasing and common practice to increase it after a plea is agreed since that's an admission of guilt.
Idk this stuff
Woman will never walk right again. Woman's face is permanently different due to injuries. Four year old suffering. My scrolling memory believes people sue for a ton more than that for these things.

Nothing pretentious here. I just scroll and don't read. I swear every other day someone is being sued for way more than 10mil. Last I learned of California civil law was probably OJ but I have seen over the years that that's how many people from California believe the system should be. For example Diddy wasn't convicted yet faces more than 90 civil suits. I've been told many times it's not just Cali but started there.

I guess I'm stuck in 1980 or TV or somesuch. My brain has a judge ordering a sentence and punishment/award. This second trial stuff is a bit over my head but as I understand it- if they can convince a jury, the criminal is paying a truckload of $. Rice leaving the scene and the suffering...it seems to me like he's going to have to pay huge $.

I would definitely like someone to reply and splain this to me like I'm Desi. I clearly only have a vague idea
I was speaking from a legal perspective mostly. I agree there will be civil repercussions from this, but I don't think every dime he will ever make in the NFL will go to the plaintiffs. That is, if I understood your statement correctly, "I wonder if Rice will ever make another dime from the NFL".
 
Rock and I are. That's my point. You're not coming off as humble. You're coming off as a know it all about things that are not your profession lol.
Seems like an interpretation - I was merely posting something I “knew” from reading the articles. It seemed like many did not read beyond the headlines.

Whatever. Not a hill I need to die on. interpret my posts however you like. Enjoy your day.
 
I wonder if Rice will ever make another dime from the NFL
Are you saying this tounge-in-cheek? I think he will plead guilty as is and serve his suspension, whether 2, 4, or 6 weeks. That will be it most likely.
No
I don't know civil law and those lawsuits.
I only know these big sums cross my timeline and I rarely ever click.
I think he will be sued for at least his whole salary in the NFL.
It is already at 10 mil and he will "only" make 6.5 when the rookie contract is done and they're saying on the radio that it is definitely increasing and common practice to increase it after a plea is agreed since that's an admission of guilt.
Idk this stuff
Woman will never walk right again. Woman's face is permanently different due to injuries. Four year old suffering. My scrolling memory believes people sue for a ton more than that for these things.

Nothing pretentious here. I just scroll and don't read. I swear every other day someone is being sued for way more than 10mil. Last I learned of California civil law was probably OJ but I have seen over the years that that's how many people from California believe the system should be. For example Diddy wasn't convicted yet faces more than 90 civil suits. I've been told many times it's not just Cali but started there.

I guess I'm stuck in 1980 or TV or somesuch. My brain has a judge ordering a sentence and punishment/award. This second trial stuff is a bit over my head but as I understand it- if they can convince a jury, the criminal is paying a truckload of $. Rice leaving the scene and the suffering...it seems to me like he's going to have to pay huge $.

I would definitely like someone to reply and splain this to me like I'm Desi. I clearly only have a vague idea
I was speaking from a legal perspective mostly. I agree there will be civil repercussions from this, but I don't think every dime he will ever make in the NFL will go to the plaintiffs. That is, if I understood your statement correctly, "I wonder if Rice will ever make another dime from the NFL".
He's 25 and has two years left on his deal.
He'll be on probation at 27 when he signs his next contract.
He doesn't have a 1000 yard season or all pro or pro bowl.
I do surely think it's possible he does by then but idk how much is left after Kelce and Worthy get their piece of the pie. Maybe Kelce retires and he gets a big uptick in stats. Maybe it comes this year since he started last year so strongly?
I think that probation- one mistake and he's in jail- will be looming when he's a free agent. Maybe he plays great but GMs are still gonna worry what if
 
Please try to assume better intent "clickbaity headlines" LOL
Literally 3 headlines I read said that he would serve 30 days in jail.

It wasn’t until the fourth or so paragraph that they specify that he may never see a day inside.

Those were absolutely Clickbait and there’s not one thing I need to Assume better. I’m not Clickbait headline would’ve said “may serve up to 30 days“
My ask was not about the headlines but about assuming whether or not I read beyond them, friend.
I wasn’t assuming anything about you. It just gets old seeing yet another person talking about jailtime that is unlikely to ever get served.

If you did read beyond the headline, it wasn’t evident from your post about a thing that’s probably not going to happen.
To make my post more clear:

As of today, he is likely to serve the 30 days. He is likely to serve it in weekend jail, at his convenience, 1-3 days at a time, over the next five years. I was trying to take a shortcut and see if someone knew that without me having to search for the plea deal reporting and ask a friend who currently practices here. Then this insult came up so I just did the work. And shared the actual answer.
Again, it wasn’t intended as an insult. if you took it as one, my apologies. The articles I’d read all said some version of “he can serve the time at any point over the next 5 years” and that he may not actually serve it.

That’s all. No insult intended - your cautious post came off as having not read that part, but now I know that wasn’t the case. Simple misunderstanding.
 
I wonder if Rice will ever make another dime from the NFL
Are you saying this tounge-in-cheek? I think he will plead guilty as is and serve his suspension, whether 2, 4, or 6 weeks. That will be it most likely.
No
I don't know civil law and those lawsuits.
I only know these big sums cross my timeline and I rarely ever click.
I think he will be sued for at least his whole salary in the NFL.
It is already at 10 mil and he will "only" make 6.5 when the rookie contract is done and they're saying on the radio that it is definitely increasing and common practice to increase it after a plea is agreed since that's an admission of guilt.
Idk this stuff
Woman will never walk right again. Woman's face is permanently different due to injuries. Four year old suffering. My scrolling memory believes people sue for a ton more than that for these things.

Nothing pretentious here. I just scroll and don't read. I swear every other day someone is being sued for way more than 10mil. Last I learned of California civil law was probably OJ but I have seen over the years that that's how many people from California believe the system should be. For example Diddy wasn't convicted yet faces more than 90 civil suits. I've been told many times it's not just Cali but started there.

I guess I'm stuck in 1980 or TV or somesuch. My brain has a judge ordering a sentence and punishment/award. This second trial stuff is a bit over my head but as I understand it- if they can convince a jury, the criminal is paying a truckload of $. Rice leaving the scene and the suffering...it seems to me like he's going to have to pay huge $.

I would definitely like someone to reply and splain this to me like I'm Desi. I clearly only have a vague idea
I was speaking from a legal perspective mostly. I agree there will be civil repercussions from this, but I don't think every dime he will ever make in the NFL will go to the plaintiffs. That is, if I understood your statement correctly, "I wonder if Rice will ever make another dime from the NFL".
He's 25 and has two years left on his deal.
He'll be on probation at 27 when he signs his next contract.
He doesn't have a 1000 yard season or all pro or pro bowl.
I do surely think it's possible he does by then but idk how much is left after Kelce and Worthy get their piece of the pie. Maybe Kelce retires and he gets a big uptick in stats. Maybe it comes this year since he started last year so strongly?
I think that probation- one mistake and he's in jail- will be looming when he's a free agent. Maybe he plays great but GMs are still gonna worry what if
I think you're making a lot of assumptions. I was under the impression from your previous post that all the money he will ever make will go to the plaintiffs in a civil suit, or were you arguing all the money he will ever make in the NFL is in his rookie deal because GMs will not want him later, or both of these? You start talking about performance on the field and whether GMs will want him later because of this incident. Are you arguing that he will only play in the NFL through this contract? If yes, I find that hard to believe given all of those who have comitted other crimes and still played. I'm a little unclear on your argument.
 
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A few days ago I'd be okay taking Rice early 3rd round For redraft. Today Id be okay taking Rice early 5th? I think. Maybe.
I think you wouldn't have any shares of Rice then.
Interesting. Goes 4th then?
I don't play redraft, but 4th feels right, possibly earlier.
That’s an interesting and certainly relevant topic… how far does his ADP fall in redraft?

I’d say 4th round seems about right but I won’t be shocked to see some still take him end of 3rd. chiefs talking up stretching the field more, leaning more on the pass… that has to have some offsetting influence.

His current FPPC Main Event ADP is 25th overall (23-26, so not a ton of variance) so if he dropped to 35-40 range (3.11-4.04 in 12-team), that feels about right.

All based on vibes of course. I’m not some big city fancy lawyer. ;)
 
An actual update:
The Washington Post’s Mark Maske reports, “Rashee Rice may receive a multiple-game suspension this season but it’s ‘premature’ to conclude that with certainty and that outcome is ‘not close to final.’”
Earlier today, ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported that “the NFL can expedite its disciplinary process and Rice is likely to receive a multi-game suspension.” Maske’s source suggests otherwise. We have no way of knowing which source to rely upon but Schefter’s report could cause Rice’s ADP to dip in an advantageous manner. Regardless, were Rice to be suspended, it would likely only be an issue for fantasy managers early in the year. Should Rice be suspended and return in Weeks 4-6, he would arrive in time to boost lineups as the bye weeks begin.
 
A few days ago I'd be okay taking Rice early 3rd round For redraft. Today Id be okay taking Rice early 5th? I think. Maybe.
I think you wouldn't have any shares of Rice then.
Interesting. Goes 4th then?
I don't play redraft, but 4th feels right, possibly earlier.
That’s an interesting and certainly relevant topic… how far does his ADP fall in redraft?

I’d say 4th round seems about right but I won’t be shocked to see some still take him end of 3rd. chiefs talking up stretching the field more, leaning more on the pass… that has to have some offsetting influence.

His current FPPC Main Event ADP is 25th overall (23-26, so not a ton of variance) so if he dropped to 35-40 range (3.11-4.04 in 12-team), that feels about right.

All based on vibes of course. I’m not some big city fancy lawyer. ;)
Even though I said I don't play redraft, I thought the way I did, because I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
 
An actual update:
The Washington Post’s Mark Maske reports, “Rashee Rice may receive a multiple-game suspension this season but it’s ‘premature’ to conclude that with certainty and that outcome is ‘not close to final.’”
Earlier today, ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported that “the NFL can expedite its disciplinary process and Rice is likely to receive a multi-game suspension.” Maske’s source suggests otherwise. We have no way of knowing which source to rely upon but Schefter’s report could cause Rice’s ADP to dip in an advantageous manner. Regardless, were Rice to be suspended, it would likely only be an issue for fantasy managers early in the year. Should Rice be suspended and return in Weeks 4-6, he would arrive in time to boost lineups as the bye weeks begin.
thank you
 
An actual update:
The Washington Post’s Mark Maske reports, “Rashee Rice may receive a multiple-game suspension this season but it’s ‘premature’ to conclude that with certainty and that outcome is ‘not close to final.’”
Earlier today, ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported that “the NFL can expedite its disciplinary process and Rice is likely to receive a multi-game suspension.” Maske’s source suggests otherwise. We have no way of knowing which source to rely upon but Schefter’s report could cause Rice’s ADP to dip in an advantageous manner. Regardless, were Rice to be suspended, it would likely only be an issue for fantasy managers early in the year. Should Rice be suspended and return in Weeks 4-6, he would arrive in time to boost lineups as the bye weeks begin.

So he could get suspended next week or he could get suspended sometime in November, screwing people for the fantasy playoffs. Gonna be a solid avoid for me if we dont get much clarity.
 
An actual update:
The Washington Post’s Mark Maske reports, “Rashee Rice may receive a multiple-game suspension this season but it’s ‘premature’ to conclude that with certainty and that outcome is ‘not close to final.’”
Earlier today, ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported that “the NFL can expedite its disciplinary process and Rice is likely to receive a multi-game suspension.” Maske’s source suggests otherwise. We have no way of knowing which source to rely upon but Schefter’s report could cause Rice’s ADP to dip in an advantageous manner. Regardless, were Rice to be suspended, it would likely only be an issue for fantasy managers early in the year. Should Rice be suspended and return in Weeks 4-6, he would arrive in time to boost lineups as the bye weeks begin.

So he could get suspended next week or he could get suspended sometime in November, screwing people for the fantasy playoffs. Gonna be a solid avoid for me if we dont get much clarity.
Or he could get suspended next year, or not at all. It’s possible the NFL says “justice has been served” and calls it a day.

There’s a broad spectrum of outcomes.

Based on recent history, my opinion is that if he’s going to get suspended it will be for the 1st part of the year. We’re in July, so that’s plenty of time for the league to hand down the suspension & Rice to appeal, if he intends to do so.

He might just take his lumps and accept whatever suspension is handed down so as to not drag it out into the season.

But this is all speculation of course. Who really knows what will happen.
 
An actual update:
The Washington Post’s Mark Maske reports, “Rashee Rice may receive a multiple-game suspension this season but it’s ‘premature’ to conclude that with certainty and that outcome is ‘not close to final.’”
Earlier today, ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported that “the NFL can expedite its disciplinary process and Rice is likely to receive a multi-game suspension.” Maske’s source suggests otherwise. We have no way of knowing which source to rely upon but Schefter’s report could cause Rice’s ADP to dip in an advantageous manner. Regardless, were Rice to be suspended, it would likely only be an issue for fantasy managers early in the year. Should Rice be suspended and return in Weeks 4-6, he would arrive in time to boost lineups as the bye weeks begin.

So he could get suspended next week or he could get suspended sometime in November, screwing people for the fantasy playoffs. Gonna be a solid avoid for me if we dont get much clarity.
I have a feeling the clouds will dissipate sooner than people may think. The sun will shine and we will be able to see things more cleraly. Of course some could get a bad sunburn from what we find out. I almost made some trade offers for Rice before the recent news and maybe I still should.
 
Now we see how his ADP changes accordingly. He was creeping up too high, now will he be a value spending on timing of suspension?
I believe the suspension was already baked into his ADP. I landed him as my WR3 at 4.09 in a 12-team start-up.

Without this hanging over him he’s likely a 2nd round pick.
I don't think the suspension was baked in myself. His ADP in FFPC is the 2/3 turn, I expect that to now drop into round 4 at least.
Went round 6 in a 14 team FSGA "expert" Draft that was on XM today at Noon

 

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