LargeMouthBass
Footballguy
Damn that shoulda been the 2nd one.
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WR Sammy Watkins, BAL (1 Viewer)
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Serious f'n man-crush. This kid is special.
Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
He scores way too many TD's to be the next Andre Johnson.
Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
Maybe I should have clarified that in the thread title. LOL
Kid is 21 years old. Buffalo found themselves a stud.
smapdi
Footballguy
Cleveland has to be regretting letting Watkins slip thru their hands. Watkins is turning out to be the type of player I wouldn't give up 2 1st round picks; hell, I wouldn't trade him for anything
This kid is special. Lightning in a bottle. He has certainly rejuvenated Kyle Orton's career
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I'd trade him plus another first for Aaron Rodgers in a heartbeat. I love Watkins, but a stud QB like Rodgers makes such a gigantic difference. Suddenly all your WRs are good to great with a guy like Rodgers.
smapdi
Footballguy
Touche. I'm just assuming GB or IND would never trade their franchise QBs.
Watkins isn't even half a season into his career & he's had a major part of every single Bills' win this season.
Players like him do not come around every draft & I'm glad Whaley had the balls to go up and get him
Adam Harstad
Moderator
Watkins had another play where he got wide open on a crossing route with nothing but green grass ahead of him and Kyle Orton just overthrew him badly.
GreenBaySnackers
Footballguy
Yea, can you imagine how good he'd be if he just had the brains to get into the EZ before waltzing around with a defender on his back? I 'd like to think its a learning lesson that will humble him and make him better down the road, but on that second TD he ran around a little before going in. Oh well, at least he's no DJax..
Faust
MVP
Bills WR Sammy Watkins showboats, gets tackled short of end zone:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24769427/bills-wr-sammy-watkins-showboats-gets-tackled-short-of-end-zone
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24769427/bills-wr-sammy-watkins-showboats-gets-tackled-short-of-end-zone
Shutout
Footballguy
Ok, I usually don't troll and I guess I'm doing it wrong by announcing I am trolling But.....LOL
You mean, Orton has jumpstarted Watkins, not the other way around, right? After all, Watkins didn't do anything until Orton got under center.
socrates
Footballguy
Depending on what Garcon does tonight, I may lose my game as a result of the showboating.
Silly mistake, but hard to be too upset with Watkins after what still amounted to a big day.
matttyl
Footballguy
T with T
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tombonneau
Footballguy
Same boat. Sure would feel better with the extra 8-9 points but I'll probably take the L anyway barring a career game from Jordan Reed.matttyl said:
Adam Harstad
Moderator
Is Sammy Watkins too short to be a top fantasy receiver? Well, he currently ranks 12th in PPR as a rookie. And 7 of the 11 guys ahead of him are shorter than he is. Antonio Brown, Golden Tate, Randall Cobb, T.Y. Hilton, Jeremy Maclin, Emmanuel Sanders, and Steve Smith are all 6'0" or shorter.
hxperson
Footballguy
Pretty hilarious that Randall Cobb is tied for the league lead in TD's halfway thru the season, in light of the silliness that milkman said earlier in this thread.
socrates
Footballguy
Garcon fell short, leaving me a Sammy Watkins' showboat-too-early-missed-TD away from winning. If Watkins was 6'3" or taller, he would have been able to sense that defender behind him and easily scored. This is why receivers under 6-3 will never amount to a hill of beans. Dagnab it!how many does garcon need? Ppr?socrates said:Depending on what Garcon does tonight, I may lose my game as a result of the showboating.dhockster said:
. I'm just thrilled to have this guy for the next decade.GreenBaySnackers
Footballguy
No but his brain is too small.Adam Harstad said:
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Yep, the league where I have him, I lost by 4.5 points. The stupid showboating cost me an 8-0 start. Yay.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
werdnoynek
Footballguy
cstu
Footballguy
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Unless the Bills plan to start a combo of Orton and Manuel for Sammy's whole career, I can't see a scenario where I prefer Matthews to Watkins.
devouredbychaos
Footballguy
Traded away AP and Harvin for him in my keeper league. Needed WR help badly and having him and Julio for the next few years isn't too shabby. Probably overpaid but I'm in win now mode and we can only roster 6 RBs max and AP was just wasting a spot.
Adam Harstad
Moderator
Some people still do, though I wonder how much is stubbornness (at least, a stubborn devotion to their initial discounting of Watkins- I can understand stubbornly clinging to a positive eval of a rookie like Matthews who simply hasn't done much in his first career games).
They're in an ever-shrinking minority.
Adam Harstad
Moderator
Moss was ridiculously intelligent. Really, much of the Randy Moss persona got built early in his career and trotted out as a handy foil, but when Moss joined New England Brady and Belichick both could not stop gushing about his on-field intelligence. Which makes sense. You don't dominate like that unless all factors are working in your favor, which is partly why I never bought into the "Randy Moss was lazy" narratives, either.
Spin
Footballguy
Hoss Style
Footballguy
In all fairness, Randy was was lazy on gameday for the Raiders oftentimes. This is off of memory, but I recall chatting with Raider's fans who would lament his route running when he wasn't involved in the play - not selling his route at all. Even sometimes when the pass would come his way he'd put half an effort into catching it.
Maybe that's not laziness, but it's something akin to it. I'm not surprised he used all his tools when he got to a winning team, but he really seemed to let off the gas when things weren't going well for him.
Maybe my memory's failing me, but I remember conversations back then about Moss being a bit lazy/unmotivated/unhappy/whatever-u-call-it on gamedays, and I'd bet it was about the same in practice.
Am I totally off on this?
Faust
MVP
Sammy Watkins overcomes broken ribs, becoming threat for Bills:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24779842/sammy-watkins-overcomes-broken-ribs-becoming-threat-for-bills
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24779842/sammy-watkins-overcomes-broken-ribs-becoming-threat-for-bills
cstu
Footballguy
He didn't put in a lot of effort when he knew the ball wasn't coming his way, that was something he did most of his career. His last year in Minn he loafed his way through the season, but still ended up with 13 TD's. Anyone who watched him in Oakland knows he was going through the motions, especially his second year there. The all-time records could have been his if he'd wanted them.
Adam Harstad
Moderator
He didn't loaf that year, he was injured. Like, legitimately injured. Minnesota basically used him all season long like New Orleans has used Jimmy Graham when he's nursing an injury- part-time decoy, full-time red zone weapon.
