WR Stefon Diggs, NE (4 Viewers)

[Boston]

My lord what a contract for a 31 year old guy who’s already on the back nine of his career and coming off an ACL tear.

I know the Pats have oodles of cap space to work with and are in desperation mode with Higgins re-signing, Godwin spurning their monster contract, and little help from the rookie draft. But if they were bidding against themselves - and unless a lot was hidden it didn’t seem like a lot of teams were sniffing around Diggs - that’s pretty poor financial management.

Unfortunately they don't have a choice right now...with the state of the franchise and the tax hit players take in this state the Pats are in a situation where they have to overpay...there is just no way around it until they become good again...because of this I would not call it poor financial management but reality...if it effected future cap space it would be mismanagement but it doesn't......if Maye becomes the player we think he will be and they become a contender again a contract like this will not be necessary but for right now it is...they just don't have many other options...and it does them no good to have cap space if they don't use it.

 

[IHEARTFF]

My lord what a contract for a 31 year old guy who’s already on the back nine of his career and coming off an ACL tear.

I know the Pats have oodles of cap space to work with and are in desperation mode with Higgins re-signing, Godwin spurning their monster contract, and little help from the rookie draft. But if they were bidding against themselves - and unless a lot was hidden it didn’t seem like a lot of teams were sniffing around Diggs - that’s pretty poor financial management.

We don’t even know the details yet. With only 26 mil guaranteed, I’m guessing it’s basically a 2/40 kind of deal

Yeah, it kind of seems like a 1-year deal to me with an option. It's not $69MM, it's $26MM.

 

[menobrown]

My lord what a contract for a 31 year old guy who’s already on the back nine of his career and coming off an ACL tear.

I know the Pats have oodles of cap space to work with and are in desperation mode with Higgins re-signing, Godwin spurning their monster contract, and little help from the rookie draft. But if they were bidding against themselves - and unless a lot was hidden it didn’t seem like a lot of teams were sniffing around Diggs - that’s pretty poor financial management.

We don’t even know the details yet. With only 26 mil guaranteed, I’m guessing it’s basically a 2/40 kind of deal

Yeah, it kind of seems like a 1-year deal to me with an option. It's not $69MM, it's $26MM.

Unless that guarantee is not "fully guaranteed" it would mean that one year will cost you at least $26m. That's hard to swallow for a player who will play that year trying to return from an ACL and the additional complications that brings with trying to integreate into a new offense.

The $23m APY is probably no coincidence as that's the APY on Davante Adams contract with the Rams. Assume either Digg's agent or him wanted to be able to say they got the same deal on paper. Davante's contract can end up being one year for $20m. $6m less and a healthy knee. Seems like an exponentially better deal for the Rams. I get Davante would not take that similar deal with the Patriots, but this seems like a panic driven overpay. Who were they even bidding against?

 

[Boston]

My lord what a contract for a 31 year old guy who’s already on the back nine of his career and coming off an ACL tear.

I know the Pats have oodles of cap space to work with and are in desperation mode with Higgins re-signing, Godwin spurning their monster contract, and little help from the rookie draft. But if they were bidding against themselves - and unless a lot was hidden it didn’t seem like a lot of teams were sniffing around Diggs - that’s pretty poor financial management.

We don’t even know the details yet. With only 26 mil guaranteed, I’m guessing it’s basically a 2/40 kind of deal

Yeah, it kind of seems like a 1-year deal to me with an option. It's not $69MM, it's $26MM.

Unless that guarantee is not "fully guaranteed" it would mean that one year will cost you at least $26m. That's hard to swallow for a player who will play that year trying to return from an ACL and the additional complications that brings with trying to integreate into a new offense.

The $23m APY is probably no coincidence as that's the APY on Davante Adams contract with the Rams. Assume either Digg's agent or him wanted to be able to say they got the same deal on paper. Davante's contract can end up being one year for $20m. $6m less and a healthy knee. Seems like an exponentially better deal for the Rams. I get Davante would not take that similar deal with the Patriots, but this seems like a panic driven overpay. Who were they even bidding against?

This issue here is you are looking at this as if all things are equal…this is not a targeted move the Pats made on the first day of free agency…this was not Plan A for them…they are definitely in a corner right now with very limited options and there is absolutely no way they can go into next season with just adding a rookie to this WR corps…that would be foolish…if this move had future cap ramifications it would be a totally different story but it doesn’t…it is simply an overpay that cannot hurt them financially…unfortunately this is the reality for the Pats right now but hopefully they take a big step forward with Vrabel this year and will not have to do stuff like this in the future…but for now it is the situation they are in.

 

[menobrown]

My lord what a contract for a 31 year old guy who’s already on the back nine of his career and coming off an ACL tear.

I know the Pats have oodles of cap space to work with and are in desperation mode with Higgins re-signing, Godwin spurning their monster contract, and little help from the rookie draft. But if they were bidding against themselves - and unless a lot was hidden it didn’t seem like a lot of teams were sniffing around Diggs - that’s pretty poor financial management.

We don’t even know the details yet. With only 26 mil guaranteed, I’m guessing it’s basically a 2/40 kind of deal

Yeah, it kind of seems like a 1-year deal to me with an option. It's not $69MM, it's $26MM.

Unless that guarantee is not "fully guaranteed" it would mean that one year will cost you at least $26m. That's hard to swallow for a player who will play that year trying to return from an ACL and the additional complications that brings with trying to integreate into a new offense.

The $23m APY is probably no coincidence as that's the APY on Davante Adams contract with the Rams. Assume either Digg's agent or him wanted to be able to say they got the same deal on paper. Davante's contract can end up being one year for $20m. $6m less and a healthy knee. Seems like an exponentially better deal for the Rams. I get Davante would not take that similar deal with the Patriots, but this seems like a panic driven overpay. Who were they even bidding against?

This issue here is you are looking at this as if all things are equal…this is not a targeted move the Pats made on the first day of free agency…this was not Plan A for them…they are definitely in a corner right now with very limited options and there is absolutely no way they can go into next season with just adding a rookie to this WR corps…that would be foolish…if this move had future cap ramifications it would be a totally different story but it doesn’t…it is simply an overpay that cannot hurt them financially…unfortunately this is the reality for the Pats right now but hopefully they take a big step forward with Vrabel this year and will not have to do stuff like this in the future…but for now it is the situation they are in.

You can carry unused cap space over.

Nothing you are saying is changing my mind that they panicked and grossly overpaid.

 

[Anarchy99]

Nothing you are saying is changing my mind that they panicked and grossly overpaid.

I equate it to wearing beer goggles at a bar at the end of the night when the choice is either go home alone or pick from whomever is still around at closing time.

 

[Boston]

My lord what a contract for a 31 year old guy who’s already on the back nine of his career and coming off an ACL tear.

I know the Pats have oodles of cap space to work with and are in desperation mode with Higgins re-signing, Godwin spurning their monster contract, and little help from the rookie draft. But if they were bidding against themselves - and unless a lot was hidden it didn’t seem like a lot of teams were sniffing around Diggs - that’s pretty poor financial management.

We don’t even know the details yet. With only 26 mil guaranteed, I’m guessing it’s basically a 2/40 kind of deal

Yeah, it kind of seems like a 1-year deal to me with an option. It's not $69MM, it's $26MM.

Unless that guarantee is not "fully guaranteed" it would mean that one year will cost you at least $26m. That's hard to swallow for a player who will play that year trying to return from an ACL and the additional complications that brings with trying to integreate into a new offense.

The $23m APY is probably no coincidence as that's the APY on Davante Adams contract with the Rams. Assume either Digg's agent or him wanted to be able to say they got the same deal on paper. Davante's contract can end up being one year for $20m. $6m less and a healthy knee. Seems like an exponentially better deal for the Rams. I get Davante would not take that similar deal with the Patriots, but this seems like a panic driven overpay. Who were they even bidding against?

This issue here is you are looking at this as if all things are equal…this is not a targeted move the Pats made on the first day of free agency…this was not Plan A for them…they are definitely in a corner right now with very limited options and there is absolutely no way they can go into next season with just adding a rookie to this WR corps…that would be foolish…if this move had future cap ramifications it would be a totally different story but it doesn’t…it is simply an overpay that cannot hurt them financially…unfortunately this is the reality for the Pats right now but hopefully they take a big step forward with Vrabel this year and will not have to do stuff like this in the future…but for now it is the situation they are in.

You can carry unused cap space over.

Nothing you are saying is changing my mind that they panicked and grossly overpaid.

I am not trying to change your mind because they did do it but it was the right thing to do…their cap situation is ridiculously good and because they have drafted so bad they don’t have to worry about extending many players…this move has zero effect on what they can do in the future…also, the single most important thing for them is developing Drake Maye and adding Diggs hopefully helps that…again, this wasn’t their Plan A or probably Plan B but it is the best they were going to do in the current landscape.

 

[Anarchy99]

I am not trying to change your mind because they did do it but it was the right thing to do…their cap situation is ridiculously good and because they have drafted so bad they don’t have to worry about extending many players…this move has zero effect on what they can do in the future…also, the single most important thing for them is developing Drake Maye and adding Diggs hopefully helps that…again, this wasn’t their Plan A or probably Plan B but it is the best they were going to do in the current landscape.

This is certainly debatable. IMO, they would have been better off trading a pick or picks for a WR and ponying up the money than settling for an older and recovering from injury WR in Diggs. As you mentioned, they have more cap room than Fort Knox, so that isn't an issue. And TBH, their draft record has been terrible, so giving up picks would likely net them more production than if they wasted more picks. Whether you love the players or not, they could have traded for more than one of Kupp, Metcalf, Samuel, or Aiyuk for not much in draft capital. And who knows you else they may have been able to pry away from another team. That's just my opinion, and I think they could have been more aggressive in fixing the offense over the defense (which they likely tried and were rebuffed by multiple players).

 

[menobrown]

My lord what a contract for a 31 year old guy who’s already on the back nine of his career and coming off an ACL tear.

I know the Pats have oodles of cap space to work with and are in desperation mode with Higgins re-signing, Godwin spurning their monster contract, and little help from the rookie draft. But if they were bidding against themselves - and unless a lot was hidden it didn’t seem like a lot of teams were sniffing around Diggs - that’s pretty poor financial management.

We don’t even know the details yet. With only 26 mil guaranteed, I’m guessing it’s basically a 2/40 kind of deal

Yeah, it kind of seems like a 1-year deal to me with an option. It's not $69MM, it's $26MM.

Unless that guarantee is not "fully guaranteed" it would mean that one year will cost you at least $26m. That's hard to swallow for a player who will play that year trying to return from an ACL and the additional complications that brings with trying to integreate into a new offense.

The $23m APY is probably no coincidence as that's the APY on Davante Adams contract with the Rams. Assume either Digg's agent or him wanted to be able to say they got the same deal on paper. Davante's contract can end up being one year for $20m. $6m less and a healthy knee. Seems like an exponentially better deal for the Rams. I get Davante would not take that similar deal with the Patriots, but this seems like a panic driven overpay. Who were they even bidding against?

This issue here is you are looking at this as if all things are equal…this is not a targeted move the Pats made on the first day of free agency…this was not Plan A for them…they are definitely in a corner right now with very limited options and there is absolutely no way they can go into next season with just adding a rookie to this WR corps…that would be foolish…if this move had future cap ramifications it would be a totally different story but it doesn’t…it is simply an overpay that cannot hurt them financially…unfortunately this is the reality for the Pats right now but hopefully they take a big step forward with Vrabel this year and will not have to do stuff like this in the future…but for now it is the situation they are in.

You can carry unused cap space over.

Nothing you are saying is changing my mind that they panicked and grossly overpaid.

I am not trying to change your mind because they did do it but it was the right thing to do…their cap situation is ridiculously good and because they have drafted so bad they don’t have to worry about extending many players…this move has zero effect on what they can do in the future…also, the single most important thing for them is developing Drake Maye and adding Diggs hopefully helps that…again, this wasn’t their Plan A or probably Plan B but it is the best they were going to do in the current landscape.

I'm going to disagree again this move has zero implications for the future as unused salary space carries over. And yes I understand they have a lot, does mean you waste it.

If they wanted to overpay because of cap they had plenty of options to do so and actually get back a healthy WR. Kupp is one year for $17M or two years for $30m. I'm sure if they'd thrown him a few million over that they could have convinced him. Marquise Brown only got $7m, I mean throw another few million his way and he's not saying no. These are just two examples of healthy players they could have gone after if they wanted to overpay.

Healthy old vets like Keenan and Amari still floating around.

But again to your main point I simply don't agree that because you have a lot of cap space you burn it.

 

[Anarchy99]

Kupp is one year for $17M or two years for $30m.

I don't know if they kept throwing money at Kupp if he would have caved. He had already made close to $100M over his career. He's a West Coast guy with a wife and little kids, and he seemed to come across as really only wanting to play for a team out West. But I concur with your assessment on they could have explored more options and ponied up more money and picks to bring someone else in.

 

[Boston]

I am not trying to change your mind because they did do it but it was the right thing to do…their cap situation is ridiculously good and because they have drafted so bad they don’t have to worry about extending many players…this move has zero effect on what they can do in the future…also, the single most important thing for them is developing Drake Maye and adding Diggs hopefully helps that…again, this wasn’t their Plan A or probably Plan B but it is the best they were going to do in the current landscape.

This is certainly debatable. IMO, they would have been better off trading a pick or picks for a WR and ponying up the money than settling for an older and recovering from injury WR in Diggs. As you mentioned, they have more cap room than Fort Knox, so that isn't an issue. And TBH, their draft record has been terrible, so giving up picks would likely net them more production than if they wasted more picks. Whether you love the players or not, they could have traded for more than one of Kupp, Metcalf, Samuel, or Aiyuk for not much in draft capital. And who knows you else they may have been able to pry away from another team. That's just my opinion, and I think they could have been more aggressive in fixing the offense over the defense (which they likely tried and were rebuffed by multiple players).

I don’t really disagree with too much…I think the issue is some of these players had no interest coming here so I don’t think they are all realistic…Diggs comes without trading anything for him…I would still like this move if they had made a deal for one of those guys but the rumor is they want to keep their picks…now whether that works out is certainly debatable…so overall I am good with Diggs but not satisfied with just adding him…they need to add another quality WR whether it is via the draft or a trade…the Diggs signing is a totally separate transaction that became more urgent as they lost out on Godwin and did not seem to have much interest in these other guys…whether they should have been more aggressive is the part that is more debatable not so much the Diggs signing.

 

[Bossman]

Unfortunately for NE, the only way they can attract a free agent to their dumpster fire of a team is to grossly overpay them.
If they can start winning games again this will change but Diggs is not the fix. O-line and defense will be.

 

[Boston]

My lord what a contract for a 31 year old guy who’s already on the back nine of his career and coming off an ACL tear.

I know the Pats have oodles of cap space to work with and are in desperation mode with Higgins re-signing, Godwin spurning their monster contract, and little help from the rookie draft. But if they were bidding against themselves - and unless a lot was hidden it didn’t seem like a lot of teams were sniffing around Diggs - that’s pretty poor financial management.

We don’t even know the details yet. With only 26 mil guaranteed, I’m guessing it’s basically a 2/40 kind of deal

Yeah, it kind of seems like a 1-year deal to me with an option. It's not $69MM, it's $26MM.

Unless that guarantee is not "fully guaranteed" it would mean that one year will cost you at least $26m. That's hard to swallow for a player who will play that year trying to return from an ACL and the additional complications that brings with trying to integreate into a new offense.

The $23m APY is probably no coincidence as that's the APY on Davante Adams contract with the Rams. Assume either Digg's agent or him wanted to be able to say they got the same deal on paper. Davante's contract can end up being one year for $20m. $6m less and a healthy knee. Seems like an exponentially better deal for the Rams. I get Davante would not take that similar deal with the Patriots, but this seems like a panic driven overpay. Who were they even bidding against?

This issue here is you are looking at this as if all things are equal…this is not a targeted move the Pats made on the first day of free agency…this was not Plan A for them…they are definitely in a corner right now with very limited options and there is absolutely no way they can go into next season with just adding a rookie to this WR corps…that would be foolish…if this move had future cap ramifications it would be a totally different story but it doesn’t…it is simply an overpay that cannot hurt them financially…unfortunately this is the reality for the Pats right now but hopefully they take a big step forward with Vrabel this year and will not have to do stuff like this in the future…but for now it is the situation they are in.

You can carry unused cap space over.

Nothing you are saying is changing my mind that they panicked and grossly overpaid.

I am not trying to change your mind because they did do it but it was the right thing to do…their cap situation is ridiculously good and because they have drafted so bad they don’t have to worry about extending many players…this move has zero effect on what they can do in the future…also, the single most important thing for them is developing Drake Maye and adding Diggs hopefully helps that…again, this wasn’t their Plan A or probably Plan B but it is the best they were going to do in the current landscape.

I'm going to disagree again this move has zero implications for the future as unused salary space carries over. And yes I understand they have a lot, does mean you waste it.

If they wanted to overpay because of cap they had plenty of options to do so and actually get back a healthy WR. Kupp is one year for $17M or two years for $30m. I'm sure if they'd thrown him a few million over that they could have convinced him. Marquise Brown only got $7m, I mean throw another few million his way and he's not saying no. These are just two examples of healthy players they could have gone after if they wanted to overpay.

Healthy old vets like Keenan and Amari still floating around.

But again to your main point I simply don't agree that because you have a lot of cap space you burn it.

They are not simply burning it…they are using it to address a gigantic hole that simply had to be addressed and as of 3/26 the options were very limited…you are speculating that they could have these other players…if we find out that they wanted to come here at these lower prices and the Pats said no than you have a valid point and are correct but we don’t know that and my guess is they were in no rush to do so which is what lead to this signing.

 

[fruity pebbles]

I’d rather have Diggs than Kupp anyways. Diggs still looked very good before the injury. Kupp looked shot to me.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

-Way overpaid for him
-Patriots had a lot of money to burn along with other teams still $30+M under the cap, 13 teams! on this list and the Patriots had the most
-A lot of insiders are picking the Patriots to win 9-10 games this year, you can laugh all you want but a rookie contract QB and money to burn, they're not finished yet

I have the Patriots possibly taking 2nd in the East and being a wildcard player for one of those last remaining spots end of the year.
I would assume they have a last place schedule as well.
They could also take a high profile WR in the Draft to pair with Diggs to help Maye as best they can to grow in Year 2

If you look at the money in the context of where the Patriots are at and not just $23M a year for a semi-washed 32 yr old WR coming off a torn ACL, it could make more sense
But why couldn't they make a move for Tee Higgins? I understand the Bengals wanted to keep him but I feel like a decent trade offer would have gotten him

 

[Anarchy99]

In the past 10 years, there were only 5 instances when a 32+ year old WR put up 1,000 receiving yards in a season. Fitzgerald twice, Edelman, Thielen, and Adams last year. Again, NE was running out of options, but probably not the best investment to make, especially coming off an injury.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

$26M guaranteed
$69M contract

Uhhh, this is really a 1 year deal masked as a 3 yr deal
Patriots can get out of this quickly if they need to and they wasted no Draft capital in the process
New Sheriff in town, AFC East should take notice

 

[Anarchy99]

I would assume they have a last place schedule as well.

All teams share 14 games with their divisional opponents. The other 3 games are matched by where they finished in the division and getting the teams that finished in the same spot in other divisions. For the AFC East this year, that means the uncommon games will be:

BUF: KC, HOU, PHI
MIA: LAC, IND, WAS
NYJ: DEN, JAC, DAL
NE: LV, TEN, NYG

Certainly, would rather have the NE schedule compared to BUF. But teams can change a lot from year to year.

NE could be better just because it's really hard to be terrible for 3 seasons in a row. And like you said, they get a favorable schedule. It's debatable how much better they actually got, even if they win more games this upcoming season. They also get NYJ x 2, MIA x 2, CLE, ATL, CAR, NOS. Those are 11 very winnable games against what should be not great teams.

 

[TheDirtyWord]

NE only has $28M more cap space now than the #2 team.

I think when you've got that much still under the hood so to speak the contract deets are somewhat irrelevant. Their best WR prior to the signing was who?

 

[Faust]

Patriots HC Mike Vrabel on signing of WR Stefon Diggs: 'There's a play style to him that I've always appreciated'

 

[dickey moe]

Diggs is probably the best WR that the Pats have had since Edelman.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Diggs is probably the best WR that the Pats have had since Edelman.

I’m excited as a Diggs shareholder. He’s my WR4, so if he gives me WR2-3 numbers it’s a win. Top 12 numbers and it’s a jackpot.

 

[Faust]

Coach Mike Vrabel says Patriots aware of Stefon Diggs video

 

[Payne]

Coach Mike Vrabel says Patriots aware of Stefon Diggs video

Not a good look. I'm avoiding him.

 

[eighsse2]

Coach Mike Vrabel says Patriots aware of Stefon Diggs video

I'm assuming "unidentified pink substance" is implying the possibility of drugs. But I never knew of a pink drug.

 

[Biabreakable]

Coach Mike Vrabel says Patriots aware of Stefon Diggs video

I'm assuming "unidentified pink substance" is implying the possibility of drugs. But I never knew of a pink drug.

Or it could be some sort of candy. It's not clear what it is. Could be a pork pie for all we know.

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[Mr. Peterson]

Hahaha. I’m so glad the Bills got rid of him.

 

[greenmountaingoat]

On twitter it's being referred to as "pink cocaine" which is not cocaine at all but instead something otherwise called "Tusi" which is a mixture of party drugs (Ketamime, MDMA, meth and Caffeine).

Things you never hoped to learn about but now know about thanks to Stef Diggs being on the Patriots. Cool.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Coach Mike Vrabel says Patriots aware of Stefon Diggs video

I'm assuming "unidentified pink substance" is implying the possibility of drugs. But I never knew of a pink drug.

I’m hoping it’s Benadryl.


I only have 1 share, but with reports he’s going to miss up to 4 weeks, and now this, I’m glad my offer of a 2026 3rd was declined in another league.

 

[Big Nate]

On twitter it's being referred to as "pink cocaine" which is not cocaine at all but instead something otherwise called "Tusi" which is a mixture of party drugs (Ketamime, MDMA, meth and Caffeine).

Things you never hoped to learn about but now know about thanks to Stef Diggs being on the Patriots. Cool.

Is it possible for these WRs to not go totally insane?

 

[warpig33]

Is it possible it was just Hubba Bubba?

 

[Terpman22]

Is it possible it was just Hubba Bubba?

Freeze Dried? Sure sounds plausible to me. The girls in bikinis love that stuff

 

[TheWinz]

Antonio Diggs

 

[menobrown]

On twitter it's being referred to as "pink cocaine" which is not cocaine at all but instead something otherwise called "Tusi" which is a mixture of party drugs (Ketamime, MDMA, meth and Caffeine).

Things you never hoped to learn about but now know about thanks to Stef Diggs being on the Patriots. Cool.

Ton of mentions in this during the Diddy trial.....speaking of things I never wanted to know so much about.

I got to say I don't care about the drugs one little tiny bit.

What I do care about is I can't for one second think the optimal way to make a successful recovery from ACL surgery is partying your *** off like a rock star with Cardi B and skipping OTA's. I wonder if he's even met Drake Maye?

TBH I thought he was toast at end of 2023 but when NE threw this money at him in light of their receiving options he seemed at least to be a PPR volume cheat code guy and I got back on board a little. I'm back off and regret drafting him a few times. I think this guy duped NE into giving him about $17m and he's more interesting in that rock star life now than doing what he needs to suit and play at a high level.

 

[Riffraff]

On twitter it's being referred to as "pink cocaine" which is not cocaine at all but instead something otherwise called "Tusi" which is a mixture of party drugs (Ketamime, MDMA, meth and Caffeine).

Things you never hoped to learn about but now know about thanks to Stef Diggs being on the Patriots. Cool.

What Is Pink Cocaine? MedMD​

and a picture of what he's showing the girls.

 

[TheWinz]

On twitter it's being referred to as "pink cocaine" which is not cocaine at all but instead something otherwise called "Tusi" which is a mixture of party drugs (Ketamime, MDMA, meth and Caffeine).

Things you never hoped to learn about but now know about thanks to Stef Diggs being on the Patriots. Cool.

What Is Pink Cocaine? MedMD​

and a picture of what he's showing the girls.

If you want to compare, here's a picture of Tusi - https://www.khou.com/article/news/h...exas/285-95174d40-50ce-4f9c-b593-c20f3edd56b2

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Is it possible it was just Hubba Bubba?

Is that what the kids are calling it these days?

 

[TheWinz]

Current WR rankings from a few sites
FBG - WR33
ESPN - WR44
Fantasypros - WR45
Yahoo - WR46

Diggs has been a target hog on all 3 teams he's been on
MIN - 8.5 targets per start
BUF - 9.9 targets per start
HOU - 8.0 targets per start

Over the last 4 seasons (since the NFL went to 17 games), the average WR45 has 80 targets. Diggs will either have to miss a decent amount of games or be reduced to a 5 target per game guy to finish around WR45.

 

[massraider]

I don't care about the picture. Can't get suspended for that, and a WR likes the booger sugar? Whatevs


What i actually do care about? Well, that's not good either. Old, coming off injury, New team. And the Pats offseason hype is a bit much for me.

So even if you do like Diggs, you're not getting as much of a discount as you should be getting.

 

[Anarchy99]

Current WR rankings from a few sites
FBG - WR33
ESPN - WR44
Fantasypros - WR45
Yahoo - WR46

Diggs has been a target hog on all 3 teams he's been on
MIN - 8.5 targets per start
BUF - 9.9 targets per start
HOU - 8.0 targets per start

Over the last 4 seasons (since the NFL went to 17 games), the average WR45 has 80 targets. Diggs will either have to miss a decent amount of games or be reduced to a 5 target per game guy to finish around WR45.

Lots of moving pieces to this. NE media folks the last couple of days projected Diggs to miss the first 3 games of the season. He's also coming off a serious injury and is entering his age 32 season. IMO, his 3 prior teams had more dynamic offenses, and the NE offense is a long way from those. Over the past three seasons, the team leader in targets at WR in NE has been Douglas (87), Douglas (79), and Meyers (96). Most of the time, WRs the year after a serious knee injury see a dip in their productivity and efficiency numbers.

Blending all those factors together, there is a fair amount of risk involved fantasy wise with regard to Diggs. Like all players, it depends on what it would take to acquire him to determine if he will be potentially worth it. With Vrabel as a no non-sense head coach and Diggs already off to a somewhat rocky start, that could also factor into the mix. I wouldn't say I wouldn't draft him, but I can't say I would be eager to draft him unless he starts free falling in a draft. From an observational standpoint, several people have already brought him up to me as a guy that they will target as a WR3 that will get decent WR2 production. If that's the case, he won't be on one of my rosters.

 

[TheWinz]

So even if you do like Diggs, you're not getting as much of a discount as you should be getting.

If you disregard FBG staffers and go by the other websites, I think he's a good deal at his WR45 ranking. That's a late 8th rounder in a 12 team league, and likely your WR4. But yes, if you go by FBG rankings, I would pass on him.

 

[TheWinz]

From an observational standpoint, several people have already brought him up to me as a guy that they will target as a WR3 that will get decent WR2 production. If that's the case, he won't be on one of my rosters.

Agreed. I wouldn't mind him as my WR4, but would pass as my WR3. Perhaps he can be WR4 target that will get decent WR3 production.

 

[efactor]

I’m most concerned that all that money doesn’t buy better looking women to hang out with.

 

[Big Nate]

Current WR rankings from a few sites
FBG - WR33
ESPN - WR44
Fantasypros - WR45
Yahoo - WR46

Diggs has been a target hog on all 3 teams he's been on
MIN - 8.5 targets per start
BUF - 9.9 targets per start
HOU - 8.0 targets per start

Over the last 4 seasons (since the NFL went to 17 games), the average WR45 has 80 targets. Diggs will either have to miss a decent amount of games or be reduced to a 5 target per game guy to finish around WR45.

I've heard he might miss the first 4 games of the season - longer if he ends up suspended for drugs etc.

I traded for him last year as a depth piece to help on a playoff run - he then went on to tear his ACL the week after. I did have some inquiries about his services a couple weeks ago but with this latest hubba bubba incident its totally dead.

My best hope is he gets his crap together and can be a flex play down the stretch once he has recovered. NE is in desperate need of pass catchers so as long as he can get back on the field he should have fantasy value scoring points. Maybe I could flip him for a bag of balls once (if?) he is back playing this year. He seems to be more interested in partying than being with team in the practice facility.

 

[Big Nate]

Current WR rankings from a few sites
FBG - WR33
ESPN - WR44
Fantasypros - WR45
Yahoo - WR46

Diggs has been a target hog on all 3 teams he's been on
MIN - 8.5 targets per start
BUF - 9.9 targets per start
HOU - 8.0 targets per start

Over the last 4 seasons (since the NFL went to 17 games), the average WR45 has 80 targets. Diggs will either have to miss a decent amount of games or be reduced to a 5 target per game guy to finish around WR45.

Lots of moving pieces to this. NE media folks the last couple of days projected Diggs to miss the first 3 games of the season. He's also coming off a serious injury and is entering his age 32 season. IMO, his 3 prior teams had more dynamic offenses, and the NE offense is a long way from those. Over the past three seasons, the team leader in targets at WR in NE has been Douglas (87), Douglas (79), and Meyers (96). Most of the time, WRs the year after a serious knee injury see a dip in their productivity and efficiency numbers.

Blending all those factors together, there is a fair amount of risk involved fantasy wise with regard to Diggs. Like all players, it depends on what it would take to acquire him to determine if he will be potentially worth it. With Vrabel as a no non-sense head coach and Diggs already off to a somewhat rocky start, that could also factor into the mix. I wouldn't say I wouldn't draft him, but I can't say I would be eager to draft him unless he starts free falling in a draft. From an observational standpoint, several people have already brought him up to me as a guy that they will target as a WR3 that will get decent WR2 production. If that's the case, he won't be on one of my rosters.

Yep lots of concerns here. If I didn't already own him I would be passing on him unless he was a free throw-in on a trade. I do believe he has another year or 2 left in him, especially on a team that needs a WR in the worst way. But many things can change quickly...

 

[nightmare]

S Diggs might get a better "workout" with those girls and the "Pink" than what passes for modern NFL training camp.

 

[fatness]

I’m most concerned that all that money doesn’t buy better looking women to hang out with.

They were not impressed by him handing out Pepto-Bismol.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Current WR rankings from a few sites
FBG - WR33
ESPN - WR44
Fantasypros - WR45
Yahoo - WR46

Diggs has been a target hog on all 3 teams he's been on
MIN - 8.5 targets per start
BUF - 9.9 targets per start
HOU - 8.0 targets per start

Over the last 4 seasons (since the NFL went to 17 games), the average WR45 has 80 targets. Diggs will either have to miss a decent amount of games or be reduced to a 5 target per game guy to finish around WR45.

Yes. Our May projections are different than some of our competitors. That's nothing new as we focus on what we think. We'll be watching this event to see what type of impact, if any, it may have.

 

[FarFromHome]

If I can have Diggs as my wr4 based on his current ADP I'm pretty damn thrilled.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Current WR rankings from a few sites
FBG - WR33
ESPN - WR44
Fantasypros - WR45
Yahoo - WR46

Diggs has been a target hog on all 3 teams he's been on
MIN - 8.5 targets per start
BUF - 9.9 targets per start
HOU - 8.0 targets per start

Over the last 4 seasons (since the NFL went to 17 games), the average WR45 has 80 targets. Diggs will either have to miss a decent amount of games or be reduced to a 5 target per game guy to finish around WR45.

Well, it was recently reported that he’s likely to miss 4 games.

So what’s a 13 game Diggs look like as the WR1 (?) of the Patriots?

I roster him in 1 league. I was offered a 4th and 5th for him and declined it. I look at him like I look at Mike Williams in his return to the Chargers. Break glass in case of emergency bench depth.

In a perfect world I’ll never have to start either of them. But they’re better than “roster cloggers”. BYE week dart throws / WR6-7 types. They’re nice to roster when you have a need, but you’re really hoping they come out the gate hot so you can flip em to another team.

Neither is a dude I would target in dynasty unless they’re cheap. I did just give up a 31 y/o S in IDP for Mike Williams. He’ll likely die on my roster. And that’s ok, so long as I get a game out of him when I have 2 WR with hammy tweaks & 1 on the BYE.

I agree with the WR44-46 rankings. WR33 seems wildly optimistic, but I’m all-in if that happens. Immediately flip him to WR-needy team before he hurts [insert body part here]. He is the starting X WR for Herbert’s LAC. I can definitely see a hot early start bumping his value. You just have to hold your breath that every catch won’t be his last.