WR Tee Higgins, CIN (1 Viewer)

[Faust]

Tee Higgins caught 5-of-8 targets for 33 yards and a touchdown in the Bengals' Week 15 win against the Bucs.​

Higgins also had a two-point conversion in the team's second half comeback against Tampa. As he was in Week 14, Higgins -- dealing with a lingering hamstring injury -- was removed from the Bengals' injury report. But this time, he played the whole game and nabbed a short touchdown grab from Joe Burrow -- one of Burrow's four touchdown tosses on the day.
Dec 18, 2022, 8:04 PM ET

 

[dkp993]

Played Tee. Got 2 less points then If I’d had started Davonte. Need 37 from Aaron Jones tomorrow so those 2 points likely don’t matter.

 

[Faust]

Tee Higgins (hamstring) was limited in Tuesday's practice.​

It was only a walkthrough. It may only be maintenance. We'd love to start seeing Higgins pick up some full practice designations before Friday. Higgins played in 80% of the snaps on Sunday, so nothing abnormal in his usage despite a low yardage total. Higgins has scored in three straight actual starts and will be in the WR2 line against the Patriots assuming no bad news.
Dec 20, 2022, 4:53 PM ET

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Tee Higgins (hamstring) was limited in Tuesday's practice.​

It was only a walkthrough. It may only be maintenance. We'd love to start seeing Higgins pick up some full practice designations before Friday. Higgins played in 80% of the snaps on Sunday, so nothing abnormal in his usage despite a low yardage total. Higgins has scored in three straight actual starts and will be in the WR2 line against the Patriots assuming no bad news.
Dec 20, 2022, 4:53 PM ET

I get the feeling this is going to be how they manage him every week until the hammy is behind him.

Higgins can play without beating himself up in practice.

His 8 targets last week seems to indicate he’s mostly ok - hopefully they limit him all week to help that hammy calm down.

 

[Faust]

Tee Higgins (hamstring) was a full participant in practice on Wednesday.​

Higgins was on the field for 80 percent of the Bengals' snaps last week and saw eight targets. After playing just one snap two weeks ago, it's clear he is back to full strength. His full practice on Wednesday confirms that. He will rank as a strong WR2 option for the Bengals' Week 16 matchup with the Patriots.
Dec 21, 2022, 4:59 PM ET

 

[The Frankman]

Tee Higgins caught 4-of-6 targets for 37 yards in the Bengals' Wild Card win over the Ravens.

Ja'Marr Chase has distanced himself from Higgins as the go-to receiver on the dangerous Cincinnati offense, with the latter more likely to see his volume dissipate on a weekly basis should the Bengals elect for a more balanced offense - which ended up being the case against the Ravens. He narrowly missed a touchdown grab in the first half but failed to secure the ball as he went to the ground but ended with a modest 37 yards in the narrow victory. Up next for Higgins and the Bengals is a trip to Buffalo to face the two-seed Bills in the Divisional Round, where a more pass-heavy game plan is all but assured.
- NBCSportsEDGE

 

[Faust]

The Athletic's Paul Dehner Jr. writes that Tee Higgins "could" trade Tee Higgins for a top draft pick if contract extension numbers are "outrageous and it’s clear the two sides won’t see eye to eye."​

The Bengals are already being tasked with giving Joe Burrow a mega-extension this offseason, and Dehner writes that Ja'Marr Chase will receive a huge deal once eligible in 2024, noting that it may not be plausible to pay and keep all three players. He also mentions that David Mulugheta represented Jessie Bates through "contentious and unproductive" negotiations the last two seasons. Dehner ultimately settles on the likely outcome being that the Bengals will play out the final year of his rookie deal, as Bates did. But this could be a situation to monitor this offseason.
SOURCE: The Athletic
Feb 2, 2023, 2:04 PM ET

 

[zeeshan2]

Report: Bengals WR Tee Higgins "could be traded" for a top draft pick if the team can't reach an extension with him and the money he's asking for is "outrageous", per
@TheAtlantic

Higgins is entering the final year of his rookie contract, and went over 1,000 back to back seasons

https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1621569456173359107

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

if the team can't reach an extension with him and the money he's asking for is "outrageous", per

This is the key. He may ask for something completely reasonable.

Pure speculation by this dude/the Athletic.

‘Tis the season.

 

[flapgreen]

Would love for the Bears to go after him, but they wasted a draft pick on the wrong WR already.

 

[BeTheMatch]

Report: Bengals WR Tee Higgins "could be traded" for a top draft pick if the team can't reach an extension with him and the money he's asking for is "outrageous", per
@TheAtlantic

Higgins is entering the final year of his rookie contract, and went over 1,000 back to back seasons

https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1621569456173359107

This might be the dumbest non-thing thing I've ever seen. He could? If they can't? And he is? My god. I might win the lottery. If I buy a ticket. And I get the winning numbers. And I turn in my ticket. WTF?

 

[menobrown]

Report: Bengals WR Tee Higgins "could be traded" for a top draft pick if the team can't reach an extension with him and the money he's asking for is "outrageous", per
@TheAtlantic

Higgins is entering the final year of his rookie contract, and went over 1,000 back to back seasons

https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1621569456173359107

This might be the dumbest non-thing thing I've ever seen. He could? If they can't? And he is? My god. I might win the lottery. If I buy a ticket. And I get the winning numbers. And I turn in my ticket. WTF?

I don't think the article is dumb, just the reactions to it which are fanned by that Dov Kleiman who took one comment from a larger part about Higgins and put out a tweet that gets him a bunch of attention because of how he presents it.

Bengals beat writer is just doing what he's told which was to put an off-season article trying to peg various routes the Bengals might go. Extension, trade, cuts. Etc,etc. Present possibilites. The article actually listed Higgins at the top of the extension candidate and this is the whole part on Higgins with the bold being the part Kleiman focused on.

Extension candidates​

Tee Higgins

Maybe the most impactful of the offseason decisions will be what happens with the Bengals’ star wideout.

Long, philosophical discussions can be had about the value of receivers, which saw its market explode this past year. Watching Higgins float above the Chiefs’ Jaylen Watson was only the latest example of how he changes the dynamic of every game he plays. How plausible is it to pay top dollar to two different receivers and an elite quarterback, with all expectations Ja’Marr Chase will receive a huge deal once eligible starting in 2024? How do the Bengals handle negotiating once again with agent David Mulugheta, who also represented Jessie Bates through the contentious and unproductive last two seasons, butting heads over guaranteed money?

Higgins is not a free agent. His contract dictates he reports and plays for the last year of his deal, worth $4 million, but conversations need to be had about a long-term contract. If the numbers are outrageous and it’s clear the two sides won’t see eye to eye, the Bengals could go the route taken by multiple teams in recent seasons and deal the receiver for a top draft pick and start the cycle over with a rookie receiver. A.J. Brown was dealt in Tennessee to Philadelphia for picks 18 and 101 last year. The first-round pick turned into receiver Treylon Burks. Minnesota traded Stefon Diggs to Buffalo for the No. 22 pick, which turned into Justin Jefferson. Both veteran receivers promptly were given large extensions by the acquiring teams. There are other examples, but you get the point.

The Bengals can also choose to bank on Higgins reporting this year and playing, then deal with extensions and franchise tags (or potential tag and trade) in 2024. The parallels to the Bates situation are almost too many to believe. Maybe Burrow takes less and says give that money to Higgins so the weapons stay together. Many options exist and the Bengals will have to sort through all of them.

The most likely outcome would be Higgins playing out the last year of his rookie contract just as Bates did, but this will be a fluid storyline to track closely from the draft through opening day.

 

[ghostguy123]

if the team can't reach an extension with him and the money he's asking for is "outrageous", per

This is the key. He may ask for something completely reasonable.

Pure speculation by this dude/the Athletic.

‘Tis the season.

Tee might push for a trade cause it seems the WRs get paid bigly when traded

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

if the team can't reach an extension with him and the money he's asking for is "outrageous", per

This is the key. He may ask for something completely reasonable.

Pure speculation by this dude/the Athletic.

‘Tis the season.

Tee might push for a trade cause it seems the WRs get paid bigly when traded

He also might wanna win with the Bengals.

Hey, as a Higgins shareholder in both of my dynasty leagues, I kinda hope he goes somewhere he can be the WR1.

 

[Boston]

Cincy has always been a different franchise...they don't need to screw this up...I think it makes a ton of sense to sign Burrow-Chase-Higgins to big $ money than figure it out from there...if they have those three, they will be contenders.

 

[menobrown]

Cincy has always been a different franchise...they don't need to screw this up...I think it makes a ton of sense to sign Burrow-Chase-Higgins to big $ money than figure it out from there...if they have those three, they will be contenders.

Burrow's going to be a $50M a year QB if he wants and both of these WR's are going to be $20m+ a year players. They got time before those extensions kicked in, but I don't think you can feasibly pay 3 players at that position like that myself. They can put this off 2-3 more years though using last year of Higgins rookie deal and then franchise him.

 

[flapgreen]

Cincy has always been a different franchise...they don't need to screw this up...I think it makes a ton of sense to sign Burrow-Chase-Higgins to big $ money than figure it out from there...if they have those three, they will be contenders.

Burrow's going to be a $50M a year QB if he wants and both of these WR's are going to be $20m+ a year players. They got time before those extensions kicked in, but I don't think you can feasibly pay 3 players at that position like that myself. They can put this off 2-3 more years though using last year of Higgins rookie deal and then franchise him.

That seems most likely

 

[ghostguy123]

if the team can't reach an extension with him and the money he's asking for is "outrageous", per

This is the key. He may ask for something completely reasonable.

Pure speculation by this dude/the Athletic.

‘Tis the season.

Tee might push for a trade cause it seems the WRs get paid bigly when traded

He also might wanna win with the Bengals.

Hey, as a Higgins shareholder in nothing my dynasty leagues, I kinda hope he goes somewhere he can be the WR1.

He might hate the Bengals. He might want to play quarterback. He might want to be an astronaut.
Only thing we know for sure is he wants more money. Every player does.
It doesn't mean he leaves or gets traded, but we know money is a huge factor in these cases, both for the player and the team needing to try and sign a player.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

if the team can't reach an extension with him and the money he's asking for is "outrageous", per

This is the key. He may ask for something completely reasonable.

Pure speculation by this dude/the Athletic.

‘Tis the season.

Tee might push for a trade cause it seems the WRs get paid bigly when traded

He also might wanna win with the Bengals.

Hey, as a Higgins shareholder in nothing my dynasty leagues, I kinda hope he goes somewhere he can be the WR1.

He might hate the Bengals. He might want to play quarterback. He might want to be an astronaut.
Only thing we know for sure is he wants more money. Every player does.
It doesn't mean he leaves or gets traded, but we know money is a huge factor in these cases, both for the player and the team needing to try and sign a player.

Not saying it isn’t.

But the report is speculative. Lots of ifs and coulds, and not a lot of definitive statements.

I guess we’ll know at the draft.

Also, not sure how AC changed “both of my” to “nothing”, but I appreciate your ignoring that.

 

[ghostguy123]

if the team can't reach an extension with him and the money he's asking for is "outrageous", per

This is the key. He may ask for something completely reasonable.

Pure speculation by this dude/the Athletic.

‘Tis the season.

Tee might push for a trade cause it seems the WRs get paid bigly when traded

He also might wanna win with the Bengals.

Hey, as a Higgins shareholder in nothing my dynasty leagues, I kinda hope he goes somewhere he can be the WR1.

He might hate the Bengals. He might want to play quarterback. He might want to be an astronaut.
Only thing we know for sure is he wants more money. Every player does.
It doesn't mean he leaves or gets traded, but we know money is a huge factor in these cases, both for the player and the team needing to try and sign a player.

Not saying it isn’t.

But the report is speculative. Lots of ifs and coulds, and not a lot of definitive statements.

I guess we’ll know at the draft.

Also, not sure how AC changed “both of my” to “nothing”, but I appreciate your ignoring that.

Its speculative, but also based on logic of when guys are typically traded, which is when they are about to sign a huge deal for a team that probably can't afford to sign them to that huge deal.
So, it's not exactly pie in the sky speculation.

 

[ghostguy123]

Cincy has always been a different franchise...they don't need to screw this up...I think it makes a ton of sense to sign Burrow-Chase-Higgins to big $ money than figure it out from there...if they have those three, they will be contenders.

Burrow's going to be a $50M a year QB if he wants and both of these WR's are going to be $20m+ a year players. They got time before those extensions kicked in, but I don't think you can feasibly pay 3 players at that position like that myself. They can put this off 2-3 more years though using last year of Higgins rookie deal and then franchise him.

That seems most likely

I'll give you it seems likely in terms of what the TEAM wants to do.

 

[Dizzy]

WOW, HIGGINS TO RAVENS!!!


Sorry, just thinkin' out loud.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

WOW, HIGGINS TO RAVENS!!!


Sorry, just thinkin' out loud.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

/Vader

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

WOW, HIGGINS TO RAVENS!!!


Sorry, just thinkin' out loud.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

/Vader

In seriousness, I have a feeling they’re gonna draft Bijan or one of the WRs I want, which would be irritating. The only player on that offense I want is LJax.

 

[zeeshan2]

Report: Bengals WR Tee Higgins "could be traded" for a top draft pick if the team can't reach an extension with him and the money he's asking for is "outrageous", per
@TheAtlantic

Higgins is entering the final year of his rookie contract, and went over 1,000 back to back seasons

https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1621569456173359107

This might be the dumbest non-thing thing I've ever seen. He could? If they can't? And he is? My god. I might win the lottery. If I buy a ticket. And I get the winning numbers. And I turn in my ticket. WTF?

I mean the other part is that Higgins and the Bengals are far apart in contract negotiatons and they can't pay everyone

 

[Enzo....the Baker]

Cap is 225 mil, usually goes up 10% each year.
Burrow, 50
Tee, 20
Chase, 25
So even in 2 years when the cap is 270, you will have 3 dudes taking up 34, 35%. I'm a cincy guy, love to keep all 3. Just does not seem likely

 

[TampaMike19]

Cap is 225 mil, usually goes up 10% each year.
Burrow, 50
Tee, 20
Chase, 25
So even in 2 years when the cap is 270, you will have 3 dudes taking up 34, 35%. I'm a cincy guy, love to keep all 3. Just does not seem likely

It could work if you constantly hit on WR3/4s and RB's/TE in the draft, but yeah.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

This is the key. He may ask for something completely reasonable.

What WRs do that?

 

[Boston]

This is the key. He may ask for something completely reasonable.

What WRs do that?

Braxton Berrios and Kendrick Bourne? You're right...stud WRs are not giving discounts these days.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

This is the key. He may ask for something completely reasonable.

What WRs do that?

Just saying - it’s on the spectrum of possible outcomes.

But since he’s under contract for another year, I expect the Bengals to roll him out there in 2023 & try to extend him.

Both Higgins & Chase have missed time - arguably without Higgins, they don’t make the playoffs in 2022.

IMO trading him away would be a last resort.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Just saying - it’s on the spectrum of possible outcomes.

It's very remote. I'm not sure how it's controversial to assume that he'll chase the money. Obviously Cincinnati paying him what he wants is possible - but him taking some deep discount just to stay with Burrow is much more speculative than the original quote which makes the obvious assumption that they can't pay him his true market value most likely since they have to pay Burrow and Chase.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Just saying - it’s on the spectrum of possible outcomes.

It's very remote. I'm not sure how it's controversial to assume that he'll chase the money. Obviously Cincinnati paying him what he wants is possible - but him taking some deep discount just to stay with Burrow is much more speculative than the original quote which makes the obvious assumption that they can't pay him his true market value most likely since they have to pay Burrow and Chase.

I didn’t say it was controversial.

I said that writer speculating cinci trading him was speculative, and still think so. Everything I’ve read indicates that they want to run it back.

Teams do sometimes let a player play out their contract & walk via FA, no? That seems much more likely than dealing him & running out Chase/Boyd in 2023.

If anything I could see them moving off of Mixon.

And ya never know - maybe they figure out a way with the new cap to keep Burrow, Chase & Higgins together.

As I said above, if they don’t it’s probably a win for me as I have Higgins in 2 dynasty leagues, and IMO his value goes up if he becomes the WR1 somewhere else.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Cincy has always been a different franchise...they don't need to screw this up...I think it makes a ton of sense to sign Burrow-Chase-Higgins to big $ money than figure it out from there...if they have those three, they will be contenders.

Burrow's going to be a $50M a year QB if he wants and both of these WR's are going to be $20m+ a year players. They got time before those extensions kicked in, but I don't think you can feasibly pay 3 players at that position like that myself. They can put this off 2-3 more years though using last year of Higgins rookie deal and then franchise him.

2024-$256M
2025-$287M+
Salary Caps going up

 

[menobrown]

Cincy has always been a different franchise...they don't need to screw this up...I think it makes a ton of sense to sign Burrow-Chase-Higgins to big $ money than figure it out from there...if they have those three, they will be contenders.

Burrow's going to be a $50M a year QB if he wants and both of these WR's are going to be $20m+ a year players. They got time before those extensions kicked in, but I don't think you can feasibly pay 3 players at that position like that myself. They can put this off 2-3 more years though using last year of Higgins rookie deal and then franchise him.

2024-$256M
2025-$287M+
Salary Caps going up

So are salaries, it’s all relative

 

[Buckna]

Cincy has always been a different franchise...they don't need to screw this up...I think it makes a ton of sense to sign Burrow-Chase-Higgins to big $ money than figure it out from there...if they have those three, they will be contenders.

Burrow's going to be a $50M a year QB if he wants and both of these WR's are going to be $20m+ a year players. They got time before those extensions kicked in, but I don't think you can feasibly pay 3 players at that position like that myself. They can put this off 2-3 more years though using last year of Higgins rookie deal and then franchise him.

2024-$256M
2025-$287M+
Salary Caps going up

So are salaries, it’s all relative

Yeah, I’d say the $50MM, $20MM, $25MM speculated above is going to end up being low. Tyreek set the market at $30MM last year, Davante Adams at $28MM per, and AJ Brown came in at $25MM per. I can see Justin Jefferson resetting the market above Tyreek this year or next before Higgins and Chase get to their contracts.

Cinci’s got a lot of FA’s this year and Burrow’s contract looming, I’d expect they kick the can one more year on Higgins and either work out an extension or franchise tag next year.

 

[zeeshan2]

[Rapoport] On NFL Network, Bengals WR Tee Higgins answers a question about being photoshopped into every uniform. How long will the team stay together? “Hopefully for a long time, I plan on being in Cincinnati for a while.” Higgins is heading into the final year of his rookie contract.

 

[ghostguy123]

FFPC standard, apparently I'm in league where NOBODY wants Higgins. I took over an orphan, several teams inquired about Higgins, but every offer I have sent out was met with anger and disgust.
My most recent offer was Higgins for pick 1.10 and his future 1st and was considered wayyyyyy off.
Well, Higgins is ranked around the 20th dynasty asset, pick 10 somewhere maybe in the 60s or 70s.
How is that offer "way off"?? I have offered Tee to just about every other team for about the same thing, each time met with disgust at how horrible an offer it was.

 

[Boston]

FFPC standard, apparently I'm in league where NOBODY wants Higgins. I took over an orphan, several teams inquired about Higgins, but every offer I have sent out was met with anger and disgust.
My most recent offer was Higgins for pick 1.10 and his future 1st and was considered wayyyyyy off.
Well, Higgins is ranked around the 20th dynasty asset, pick 10 somewhere maybe in the 60s or 70s.
How is that offer "way off"?? I have offered Tee to just about every other team for about the same thing, each time met with disgust at how horrible an offer it was.

it’s not you…it’s them…very reasonable and while I get not wanting to give up a future #1 with a little uncertainty with Higgins it is not even close to being way off.

 

[ghostguy123]

FFPC standard, apparently I'm in league where NOBODY wants Higgins. I took over an orphan, several teams inquired about Higgins, but every offer I have sent out was met with anger and disgust.
My most recent offer was Higgins for pick 1.10 and his future 1st and was considered wayyyyyy off.
Well, Higgins is ranked around the 20th dynasty asset, pick 10 somewhere maybe in the 60s or 70s.
How is that offer "way off"?? I have offered Tee to just about every other team for about the same thing, each time met with disgust at how horrible an offer it was.

it’s not you…it’s them…very reasonable and while I get not wanting to give up a future #1 with a little uncertainty with Higgins it is not even close to being way off.

Yeah, I just think this league is full of guys who only look for lopsided deals. I only bought the team for 40 bucks. Might just list it right back on Depot

 

[Ilov80s]

[Rapoport] On NFL Network, Bengals WR
Tee Higgins
answers a question about being photoshopped into every uniform. How long will the team stay together? “Hopefully for a long time, I plan on being in Cincinnati for a while.”
Higgins
is heading into the final year of his rookie contract.

Interesting call for Cinci. Do they just go all in on the Burrow- Chase- Higginsconnection and make the future of the team built on that triumvirate?

Or do they walk away from Higgins and spread that money out to cover some defensive or OL holes?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

FFPC standard, apparently I'm in league where NOBODY wants Higgins. I took over an orphan, several teams inquired about Higgins, but every offer I have sent out was met with anger and disgust.
My most recent offer was Higgins for pick 1.10 and his future 1st and was considered wayyyyyy off.
Well, Higgins is ranked around the 20th dynasty asset, pick 10 somewhere maybe in the 60s or 70s.
How is that offer "way off"?? I have offered Tee to just about every other team for about the same thing, each time met with disgust at how horrible an offer it was.

it’s not you…it’s them…very reasonable and while I get not wanting to give up a future #1 with a little uncertainty with Higgins it is not even close to being way off.

Agreed

 

[Leroy Hoard]

[Rapoport] On NFL Network, Bengals WR
Tee Higgins
answers a question about being photoshopped into every uniform. How long will the team stay together? “Hopefully for a long time, I plan on being in Cincinnati for a while.”
Higgins
is heading into the final year of his rookie contract.

Interesting call for Cinci. Do they just go all in on the Burrow- Chase- Higginsconnection and make the future of the team built on that triumvirate?

Or do they walk away from Higgins and spread that money out to cover some defensive or OL holes?

Speaking as a selfish Burrow owner I hope they keep Tee and spend their first round pick on OL.

 

[Anarchy99]

Cincy has always been a different franchise...they don't need to screw this up...I think it makes a ton of sense to sign Burrow-Chase-Higgins to big $ money than figure it out from there...if they have those three, they will be contenders.

Burrow's going to be a $50M a year QB if he wants and both of these WR's are going to be $20m+ a year players. They got time before those extensions kicked in, but I don't think you can feasibly pay 3 players at that position like that myself. They can put this off 2-3 more years though using last year of Higgins rookie deal and then franchise him.

2024-$256M
2025-$287M+
Salary Caps going up

The salary has gone up approximately $10M-12M a year since 2013 (with the COVID season being an outlier) . . .

2013 - $123.M
2014 - $133M
2015 - $143M
2016 - $155M
2017 - $167M
2018 - $177M
2019 - $188M
2020 - $198M
2021 - $182M
2022 - $208M
2023 - $224M

That's essentially a $101M increase over 10 years (removing 2021). I don't think we will see the cap going up by $63M in two years. Spotrac is projecting it to be $235M next season and $245M in 2024. I've been hearing reports of huge increases in the cap coming for years now, and it hasn't materialized.

 

[Anarchy99]

As for Higgins, multiple media guys in NE keep suggesting that he is a guy the Patriots need to trade for. It's so frequent that I keep forgetting that they haven't acquired him . . . they just keep labeling him as their WR1 for next year. The hypothetical trade offer that keeps coming up is a 1 and a 4 for him and then giving him a 5 year/$100M extension. That seems very un-Belichickian.

 

[travdogg]

As for Higgins, multiple media guys in NE keep suggesting that he is a guy the Patriots need to trade for. It's so frequent that I keep forgetting that they haven't acquired him . . . they just keep labeling him as their WR1 for next year. The hypothetical trade offer that keeps coming up is a 1 and a 4 for him and then giving him a 5 year/$100M extension. That seems very un-Belichickian.

That's a high price for somebody about to get a huge raise. I like Higgins a lot, but he's not in the same league as Davante Adams, AJ Brown or Tyreek Hill. He's better than Hollywood, at least, but I think its fair to question if he isn't a best served as a high-end #2 WR.

 

[Anarchy99]

As for Higgins, multiple media guys in NE keep suggesting that he is a guy the Patriots need to trade for. It's so frequent that I keep forgetting that they haven't acquired him . . . they just keep labeling him as their WR1 for next year. The hypothetical trade offer that keeps coming up is a 1 and a 4 for him and then giving him a 5 year/$100M extension. That seems very un-Belichickian.

That's a high price for somebody about to get a huge raise. I like Higgins a lot, but he's not in the same league as Davante Adams, AJ Brown or Tyreek Hill. He's better than Hollywood, at least, but I think its fair to question if he isn't a best served as a high-end #2 WR.

The argument has been that if the Bengals didn't have Chase, Higgins would be a bonafide #1. The 1 and 4 trade parameters actually came from an article from PFF as what it would take to land him. Diggs cost a 1, 5, and 6 and the Bills had to give him 4/$96M. Adams cost a 1 and a 2, and he got a 5/$140M deal. The Cowboys basically gave Cooper to the Browns for close to nothing, and he got a 5/$100M deal from CLE. A.J. Brown cost a 1 and a 4/$100M deal. I don't know that I would give up that much for Higgins or if he is considered in the upper strata of receivers. But the going rate for receivers is certainly on the upswing.

 

[Boston]

As for Higgins, multiple media guys in NE keep suggesting that he is a guy the Patriots need to trade for. It's so frequent that I keep forgetting that they haven't acquired him . . . they just keep labeling him as their WR1 for next year. The hypothetical trade offer that keeps coming up is a 1 and a 4 for him and then giving him a 5 year/$100M extension. That seems very un-Belichickian.

Yup...that is the constant chatter...and if they can pull it off, I am 100% onboard with it.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Cincy has always been a different franchise...they don't need to screw this up...I think it makes a ton of sense to sign Burrow-Chase-Higgins to big $ money than figure it out from there...if they have those three, they will be contenders.

Burrow's going to be a $50M a year QB if he wants and both of these WR's are going to be $20m+ a year players. They got time before those extensions kicked in, but I don't think you can feasibly pay 3 players at that position like that myself. They can put this off 2-3 more years though using last year of Higgins rookie deal and then franchise him.

2024-$256M
2025-$287M+
Salary Caps going up

The salary has gone up approximately $10M-12M a year since 2013 (with the COVID season being an outlier) . . .

2013 - $123.M
2014 - $133M
2015 - $143M
2016 - $155M
2017 - $167M
2018 - $177M
2019 - $188M
2020 - $198M
2021 - $182M
2022 - $208M
2023 - $224M

That's essentially a $101M increase over 10 years (removing 2021). I don't think we will see the cap going up by $63M in two years. Spotrac is projecting it to be $235M next season and $245M in 2024. I've been hearing reports of huge increases in the cap coming for years now, and it hasn't materialized.

FYI

Over the Cap which i've been using has it
$256M-2024
$287M-2025

There are new TV deals going into place and major expansion of TV and now Youtube is part of the new groups broadcasting games.
I don't think it will be as drastic as Basketball was when salary caps doubled almost overnight. But there is a lot of new money and these caps are going up.
I think that's why we are entering the $50M+ range per year for a Top 5-10 QB.

I'm not against the players making as much as they can, But Basketball as an outlier has too many average players or chumps making way too much money for the production they put out. I wish football would have a middle class of QBs that are half what the top guys get paid. Daniel Jones should be thrilled to make 20M-30M per year but somehow that's an insult these days. I want to know how many teams outside of New York who are willing to back the truck up for him, I doubt there are many if any. And we hear rumors he turned down $40M? Not sure those rumors are true but it's frightening to hear.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Frightening to who? Its not my money.

If some jllionairre with more money than sense wants to give some jamoke half their cap to play QB, thats their funeral.

 

[travdogg]

As for Higgins, multiple media guys in NE keep suggesting that he is a guy the Patriots need to trade for. It's so frequent that I keep forgetting that they haven't acquired him . . . they just keep labeling him as their WR1 for next year. The hypothetical trade offer that keeps coming up is a 1 and a 4 for him and then giving him a 5 year/$100M extension. That seems very un-Belichickian.

That's a high price for somebody about to get a huge raise. I like Higgins a lot, but he's not in the same league as Davante Adams, AJ Brown or Tyreek Hill. He's better than Hollywood, at least, but I think its fair to question if he isn't a best served as a high-end #2 WR.

The argument has been that if the Bengals didn't have Chase, Higgins would be a bonafide #1. The 1 and 4 trade parameters actually came from an article from PFF as what it would take to land him. Diggs cost a 1, 5, and 6 and the Bills had to give him 4/$96M. Adams cost a 1 and a 2, and he got a 5/$140M deal. The Cowboys basically gave Cooper to the Browns for close to nothing, and he got a 5/$100M deal from CLE. A.J. Brown cost a 1 and a 4/$100M deal. I don't know that I would give up that much for Higgins or if he is considered in the upper strata of receivers. But the going rate for receivers is certainly on the upswing.

If NE offered the 14th pick and a 4, I'd have a really hard time saying no if I were the Bengals.