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WR Tee Higgins, CIN (1 Viewer)

Soulfly3 said:
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Soulfly3 said:
excellent news for Burton owners.....
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It’s still just may 21st.
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You think he's getting paid what he wants before then?
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I do not know if he will or won't, but I have to wonder how far apart they are. With Chase's contract coming up, they will likely let Higgins walk. The WR market is pretty high right now. If I were Higgins, I would be fine waiting a bit. Jefferson's deal would be interesting to see what number gets done. Higgins needs to prove he can stay healthy. If he does that, someone will throw a bag at him next season. The risk is injury.
 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Soulfly3 said:
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Soulfly3 said:
excellent news for Burton owners.....
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It’s still just may 21st.
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You think he's getting paid what he wants before then?
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He might. Or he might end up in a better situation where he’s the alpha.

What I don’t envision is Higgins not playing in 2024, so from a FF perspective, it’s way too early to panic.
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I'm a pretty big higgins fan, but he's a 1b for me, not the alpha dog
 
eighsse2 said:
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Soulfly3 said:
I'm a pretty big higgins fan, but he's a 1b for me, not the alpha dog
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In cinci, yes.

Somewhere else? All bets are off. Put him in Buffalo and he’s instantly their WR1.
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I guess the question is not whether he nominally becomes the WR1 on any given team (though that is great for fantasy if that happens), but how much will he flourish in that role.
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If he stays healthy I think he’ll do fine.

We’ve seen him play at a high level. To me the talent isn’t the question. Size, hands, routes - dude can do it all on the field so long as he’s right.

But that’s been the rub the last couple years.
 
bcat01 said:
Bengals won't trade him and he needs to play this year to get the big payout he is seeking. He can't afford to only give partial effort or fake injuries as that will hurt his value.
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Exactly. He just might pout a little and miss some voluntary stuff.

He’s gonna try his best to get paid, and when it doesn’t happen, he’ll report. He’s still looking at a major bag this year, and as you said, playing for his significant bag next year.

At 25 he can’t afford to F this up.
 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
bcat01 said:
Bengals won't trade him and he needs to play this year to get the big payout he is seeking. He can't afford to only give partial effort or fake injuries as that will hurt his value.
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Exactly. He just might pout a little and miss some voluntary stuff.

He’s gonna try his best to get paid, and when it doesn’t happen, he’ll report. He’s still looking at a major bag this year, and as you said, playing for his significant bag next year.

At 25 he can’t afford to F this up.
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I sense he won't sign until the last possible moment and skip all of OTA's, mini camp, and most of training camp. During the season, he may give 75-80% effort and not take many chances to make tough catches where he could get hit. It would not shock me if he had 2-3 weeks mid-season with some decent numbers and then suffered an injury that was hard to diagnose and harder to project a return. A tweaked knee or hammy, a bone bruise, a sprained wrist. Who knows. Something that will keep him out for the last 6 or 8 weeks that essentially is not that big a deal as injuries go. But enough that he will say he can't go and not want to risk aggravating it. That way, he can move on next year as an UFA without needing to recover from a major injury, he would have shown he could still put up some decent numbers in the time before he got shut down, and another team will give him a bag of money and not thing twice about it.

The only way to avoid this situation is if the Bengals offer him a million or two over the franchise tag or if they tack on incentives where he could make more money. That would probably be the smart way for Cincy to approach it, but I would be concerned that he would remain an unhappy camper and very disgruntled without some sweetener added into the contract.
 
Anarchy99 said:
It would not shock me if he had 2-3 weeks mid-season with some decent numbers and then suffered an injury that was hard to diagnose and harder to project a return. A tweaked knee or hammy, a bone bruise, a sprained wrist. Who knows. Something that will keep him out for the last 6 or 8 weeks that essentially is not that big a deal as injuries go. But enough that he will say he can't go and not want to risk aggravating it. That way, he can move on next year as an UFA without needing to recover from a major injury, he would have shown he could still put up some decent numbers in the time before he got shut down, and another team will give him a bag of money and not thing twice about it.
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Considering he’s playing for the biggest contract of his career, this would surprise me a lot.
 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Considering he’s playing for the biggest contract of his career, this would surprise me a lot.
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I am basing my hypothetical outcome on 1) Higgins doesn't get a new long term deal (the Bengals may not even be willing to give him a long term deal), 2) he is really p.o.'ed at the Bengals, 3) they don't give him anything extra to sign a one-year deal, 4), they don't trade him, and 5), they give Chase the largest contract for a WR in the history of the league. If all that happened, I don't see Higgins coming in and giving it 110%. But that's a long ways away, and it may never get to that.
 
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Anarchy99 said:
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Considering he’s playing for the biggest contract of his career, this would surprise me a lot.
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I am basing my hypothetical outcome on 1) Higgins doesn't get a new long term deal (the Bengals may not even be willing to give him a long term deal), 2), he is really p.o.'ed at the Bengals, 3) they don't give him anything extra to sign a one-year deal, 4), they don't trade him, and 5), they give Chase the largest contract for a WR in the history of the league. If all that happened, I don't see Higgins coming in and giving it 110%. But that's a long ways away, and it may never get to that.
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I get it, but I don’t see how shootings himself in the foot & hurting his future earnings is a viable strategy.

Not saying all players are logical, but if his plan is to play under the tag, disgruntled or not, going at it half a**ed & feigning injury would not be a great way to achieve his goals.

I know we’ve seen players protect their assets like that in the past, but in Higgins case the only red flag to other teams happens to be his inability to stay healthy.

It strikes me that he’d have to prove that he can to get that maximized bag next year.

But yeah, hopefully the Bengals float an olive branch contract cherry on top, or find a way to extend him before any of that comes to pass.
 
Anarchy99 said:
Hot Sauce Guy said:
bcat01 said:
Bengals won't trade him and he needs to play this year to get the big payout he is seeking. He can't afford to only give partial effort or fake injuries as that will hurt his value.
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Exactly. He just might pout a little and miss some voluntary stuff.

He’s gonna try his best to get paid, and when it doesn’t happen, he’ll report. He’s still looking at a major bag this year, and as you said, playing for his significant bag next year.

At 25 he can’t afford to F this up.
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I sense he won't sign until the last possible moment and skip all of OTA's, mini camp, and most of training camp. During the season, he may give 75-80% effort and not take many chances to make tough catches where he could get hit. It would not shock me if he had 2-3 weeks mid-season with some decent numbers and then suffered an injury that was hard to diagnose and harder to project a return. A tweaked knee or hammy, a bone bruise, a sprained wrist. Who knows. Something that will keep him out for the last 6 or 8 weeks that essentially is not that big a deal as injuries go. But enough that he will say he can't go and not want to risk aggravating it. That way, he can move on next year as an UFA without needing to recover from a major injury, he would have shown he could still put up some decent numbers in the time before he got shut down, and another team will give him a bag of money and not thing twice about it.

The only way to avoid this situation is if the Bengals offer him a million or two over the franchise tag or if they tack on incentives where he could make more money. That would probably be the smart way for Cincy to approach it, but I would be concerned that he would remain an unhappy camper and very disgruntled without some sweetener added into the contract.
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This is also a bit of a concern of mine.
 
He hung out with Titans at Deandre Hopkins birthday party in Tennessee.
Overreact to someone going to a common destination as you may...
 
Bri said:
He hung out with Titans at Deandre Hopkins birthday party in Tennessee.
Overreact to someone going to a common destination as you may...
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Yup, I only see two players who share an alma mater. I wonder if Tyler Boyd also attended (former teammate of Higgins, current teammate of Hopkins).
 
I definitely think he's motivated to have a big year given the contract situation.

I had him as a back end WR1, top end WR2 last year. I still think that upside is there if everything works out the way it's supposed to in Cincinatti. I've got him at WR18. Fantasyros has him at WR25, FBG WR28.

I think we've overcorrected quite a bit. Burrow struggled early due to the calf. Then his season ended due to the wrist. Higgins dealt with injury. I think this is one where you can wipe away last season. I think he'll be a really good value this year.
 
I would hope the contract situation has no bearing on his performance. I’ve never bought into the theory that guys needing a new contract perform any better. Higgins ranked 28th in ppg in PPR leagues two years ago and 42nd last year. He also had a significant decrease in receptions per game. Sure, he could be healthy, Burrow could stay healthy, Higgins could see more targets, and he could be “extra motivated,” but that’s a lot of ifs. Someone will draft him way before I would, so I don’t think he’d be someone I would give a lot of consideration to in redraft leagues this year.
 
Dynasty price check? I just took over an orphan with him as my WR1 (until MHjr takes over) and would like to dump him honestly.
 
The drumbeat for a big Higgins year continues, but I still think the odds of Chase holding out for games is about 1%. I think the Bengals can somewhat support 2 top WRs with the way they are constructed, but the true ceiling here is a scenario that I just don't think is a real possibility (Chase holding out).
 
Missed practice again today. I get he said he feels "amazing", but hard not to be worried. Both Yoshi and Burton could be getting opportunities earlier and more frequently then previously thought between this and Chase's potential hold-in continuing into the season. I think they both rise to the occasion too. Not that it means they'll suddenly be ahead of Higgins on the depth chart, but I do think it keeps increasing the chances Higgins is playing for another team next season (if not sooner).
 
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shadrap said:
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Hammies made of glass.

Why did I invest again. :doh:
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even if he plays there is a good chance he pulls himself out after a few plays. He did this last year about 3 times & it cost me dearly.
no way I'm playing him this week.
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I’m so mad at myself.
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Me too.

In June I swore I wouldn't touch the guy. By August, he's a value. It's a contract year. He's really really good if he stays healthy. LOL.
 
jm192 said:
Me too.

In June I swore I wouldn't touch the guy. By August, he's a value. It's a contract year. He's really really good if he stays healthy. LOL.
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By the time I drafted my home league last Saturday Chase was holding out & he seemed like such a good value in the 7th. I had 0 shares.

I wish i still had zero shares. Fortunately I have other flex options. Still sucks,
 
I wonder if anyone who drafted him last year drafted him this year.

Personally it stung enough for me to avoid him like a pile of dog$hite despite the discounted adp and despite Chase's antics.
 
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