fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
This is one that just got better and better. I’m good if he sits for 2 weeks tbh, I had him out for a while.
Limited at practice
Limited at practice
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WR Xavier Worthy, KC (2 Viewers)
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
That’s excellent news.
ponchsox
Footballguy
Indeed.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I'll still be a little bit surprised if he plays this week, but like I said before, I also wouldn't be surprised if he did not. But if he's already practicing in some capacity I'd expect him back sooner rather than later.
When he's back, I'm starting him.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Currently listed as Questionable, FWIW.
dkp993
Footballguy
As much as I need him back in my lineup I’d prefer he take a week off. Selfishly I don’t want to have to choose between a hurt Worthy, Surtain covered Pittman or the big Boutte breakout.
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RT Sports has him as doubtful
That would probably still outproduce Chase, Jameson, and Hill.....combined.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Sleeper & MFL said Q, but I’d be shocked if he plays this week.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Same.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Agree, he should sit. No need to be a hero in week 2.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
I'm not a doctor. I'm not even an Internet doctor. I put it at 0% he plays this week. It's all posturing. Mahalo
Chaka
Footballguy
It’s all ’bout da pain tolerizzes, innit? Don’t be stressin’ over some 240-pound linebacker wid bare bad vibes, just reach up for da ball an’ show dem you iz well ’ard, seen!
TampaMike19
Footballguy
He may be active to stretch the defenses as a decoy but if I’m the eagles I’m going after that shoulder and press coverage whenever I can. Reid might just use worthy in a motion capacity all game ever
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He didn’t separate it. Dislocations are way less severe.
⚡DEADHEAD⚡
Footballguy
Interesting. I never knew this.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
In terms of pain caused by the injury, a dislocation is worse (I was told by my ortho its one of the most painful injirjes)
But in terms of recovery, IIRC a separation is a worse injury.
ETA: I should also say “can be” or “typically” because as I’ve mentioned before there are degrees of severity for each, and peripheral damage that’s also a factor.
I’m not an orthopedic surgeon, but they are different injuries.
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Chaka
Footballguy
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
This is not true. Dislocations in general are more severe injuries than separated shoulders. The very article that you linked below mentions it twice. Read the sections above where you highlighted: Dislocations tend to be more severe because they directly deal with part of the shoulder and arm that need to articulate to allow range of motion and stability. I will directly copy and paste two statements from the very same article that you linked:
What is a dislocated shoulder?
Usually, a dislocated shoulder is considered a slightly more serious injury than a separated shoulder. It occurs when the head of the humerus (upper arm bone) is forced out of its socket in the shoulder blade. Dislocation usually occurs as the result of a severe impact or fall, but it can also happen from repetitive stress on the shoulder jointHow can you tell the difference between the two?
You know now that a dislocated shoulder is a more serious injury than a separated shoulder. Also, you learned that shoulder separation is an injury to the ligament between the shoulder blade and collarbone. While a shoulder dislocation happens when the top of the arm bone loses touch with the socket of the shoulder blade
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Please see my next post.
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
Your next post is false too. You said that a separated shoulder is a worse injury in regard to recovery. It is not, it is less complex and the article that you posted implies that. Sure, a mild dislocation is better than a severe separation- but in general (all things equal mild to mild, moderate to moderate, severe to severe) a dislocation is worse. The very article you linked implies that
If you want to debate pain tolerance, I wont go there as this is subjective on the individual level. Doctors dont tell patients how little or much pain they are and should be experiencing
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Nah, I’m good. Cheers.
TVT 0 N S T A
Footballguy
Not much of a horse left to beat here.
Xavier Worthy wasn't put on IR, which seems to imply he will be out less than 4 weeks, unless he requires surgery... promising and worth a hold. Maybe he will be effective enough to carve out a role before Rice returns.
Maybe Rashee Rice runs a better rub route than Kelce.
If a waiver wire gem appears, he is my first cut (between him or Odunze). Hopefully, nobody's season was contingent on Xavier Worthy... I mean he was an upside pick in what I believed was the WR dead zone in the draft.
Xavier Worthy wasn't put on IR, which seems to imply he will be out less than 4 weeks, unless he requires surgery... promising and worth a hold. Maybe he will be effective enough to carve out a role before Rice returns.
Maybe Rashee Rice runs a better rub route than Kelce.
If a waiver wire gem appears, he is my first cut (between him or Odunze). Hopefully, nobody's season was contingent on Xavier Worthy... I mean he was an upside pick in what I believed was the WR dead zone in the draft.
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
I agree with this. The fact that he didn't have immediate surgery and wasn't put on the IR is certainly hopeful for us Worthy owners. The only thing that I've been trying to preach here is objectivity. I definitely think that he's a hold---and if he or odunze are your first cut candidates--you have an exceptionally strong team. It would take a lot for me to consider dropping worthy at this point, and it would take a helluva lot for me to consider dropping odunze right now.
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
Seems to match what I figured. He's almost certainly going to need surgery. My guess is that they figured they would be going in there at some point to surgically repair all of the damage, so they might as well see if they can get anything out of him with how depleted the team looks offensively. Clearly, there is no doubt in my mind that if he suffered the same injury early in the offseason, that they would be performing surgery immediately. The news that they expect him back on the field is certainly good for fantasy owners, however--he's clearly going to be carrying a lot of risk.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Seems like a ticking time bomb and will probably be somewhat of a decoy most of the time to clear safeties I would guess.
dipandglide
Footballguy
What a sad start to the year for what could've been a massive jump in his career. Thanks, Kelce!
Marauder
Footballguy
I own him in multiple leagues and I'm not starting him anywhere. His range of motion has to be very limited. My bet as to how this plays out is, he plays but is not very effective, maybe mostly used as a decoy. Then, at some point after a few games like this, they decide to shut him down and get the surgery.
I hope I'm wrong. If he goes off for 100 yards and a TD on my bench this week, I'll be happy.
I hope I'm wrong. If he goes off for 100 yards and a TD on my bench this week, I'll be happy.
Chaka
Footballguy
Personally I would start McLaurin or Allen over Worthy without hesitation.
Winning IS Everything
Footballguy
Agree with this take. I have Worthy and will not start him. I can choose between Jakobi Meyers or Jeudy. Right now it is Meyers.
yeah, I want to see a game first before risking starting him. If he blows up his first game back so be it. The risk just isn't worth it.
Chaka
Footballguy
Myers 100% IMO
ffmail4me
Footballguy
Last year Mariota got the ball to McLaurin, I'd be starting Terry for sure.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
This is where I’m at. I have ARSB, Tet, & Jamo at WR & can plug Mason in at flex this week.
I can live with worthy blowing up on my bench. It’s the 0 like week 1 (where I was 12 points from a W) that’s the killer. I’d likely be 2-0 instead of 1-1 save for that.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Still can - just gotta wait for it a bit longer.
Chaka
Footballguy
For Kelce to retire? I made a custom advent calendar to count down the days.
Can't come soon enough.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Not where I was going with that but lol nonetheless.
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
Not surprised one bit. The "internet doctors" that are sports injury medical professionals that I got clowned on for posting earlier in this thread all basically said it was an that would cost him a minimum of 3 weeks and most likely 8 weeks to season ending. Reid has said that they were going to "rehab" and evaluate things day to day. We now know his labrum is fully torn and it's almost a certainty that he will be undergoing surgery at some point. The Chiefs are clearly hoping and trying to rehab him to a point where there is enough stability in that shoulder to where maybe they can squeeze some games out of him knowing that even if he redislocates--they'll just immediately get him to surgery. I'm not saying that he won't or can't produce when he comes back. All I'm saying was that this was never going to be a quick injury. As a worthy owner, I'm going to be hesitant to start him if/when he does have his first week back--so effectively--at this point--even best case scenario--the earliest most Worthy owners would have any comfort starting him would be week 5 (which would have been the same if he went to the IR)
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