WR Xavier Worthy, KC (9 Viewers)

[FreeBaGeL]

Too early to write off.

Ya think? It tickles me when people (not pointing at you obviously) are so quick to "write players off". I'd much rather have Worthy over someone like Leggett.

I don't disagree with your broader point, but Leggette is a poor comparison because he is similarly struggling.

A more apt comparison would be how you feel about Worthy vs. someone like Brian Thomas now. The two had similar ADP (Worthy actually drafted slightly earlier), but Thomas is worth quite a bit more now. So if you have Thomas and believe Worthy's value is solid, it would make sense to trade Thomas for Worthy+2nd or something like that. But I doubt many people are doing that trade.

I think both sides are right. Not coming out of the gates hot is far from a bust or anything like that, but we're a long ways from the days of no one expecting anything out of WRs until year 3. With so many rookie WRs coming out of the gate and being really good right away, a guy not doing that DOES decrease his value some now compared to 15 years ago when you didn't even start grading him until year 3.

 

[massraider]

Lots of redraft talk... How's the dynasty owners feeling about him?

I think he's a great asset.

He landed on the best possible spot for his value, both in terms of Reid using him efficiently, and his dynasty trade value.

IF you are looking for a guy who can have a big game with one play, this is the coach/QB combo I want that guy to have. And because he's on KC, I always assume his value will hold up really well in dynasty.

I mean, I guess I am a little disappointed in the number of targets he's gotten this far this year. But that's not a reasonable disappointment. Sam Laporta is disappointing. This kid is a 170 pound rookie for the champs, and could be a college senior right now. He's already a really fun WR4, a flex who can have a big week with one play. He's three years younger than Rice.

 

[JohnnyU]

Lots of redraft talk... How's the dynasty owners feeling about him?

I only speak from a dynasty perspective in my leagues because I only play dynasty, so as of now I feel pretty good about Worthy. I'm not one of those week-to-week haters and lovers. I seem to remember the same kind of love/hate with Rice. How a team eventually uses a player is unknown. Dynasty = a marathon, not a sprint.

My dynasty leagues are my only "serious" leagues, so I'm right with you. Got a trade offer for Worthy straight for my Higgins in a rebuild and I'm torn. As has been brought up multiple times, guy is scrawny. However if he's going to blow up and displace Rice as the healthy number one by the end of the season it's a no brainer accept.

You would need some bump in that offer of Worthy for your Higgins.

 

[JohnnyU]

Too early to write off.

Ya think? It tickles me when people (not pointing at you obviously) are so quick to "write players off". I'd much rather have Worthy over someone like Leggett.

I don't disagree with your broader point, but Leggette is a poor comparison because he is similarly struggling.

A more apt comparison would be how you feel about Worthy vs. someone like Brian Thomas now. The two had similar ADP (Worthy actually drafted slightly earlier), but Thomas is worth quite a bit more now. So if you have Thomas and believe Worthy's value is solid, it would make sense to trade Thomas for Worthy+2nd or something like that. But I doubt many people are doing that trade.

I think both sides are right. Not coming out of the gates hot is far from a bust or anything like that, but we're a long ways from the days of no one expecting anything out of WRs until year 3. With so many rookie WRs coming out of the gate and being really good right away, a guy not doing that DOES decrease his value some now compared to 15 years ago when you didn't even start grading him until year 3.

I would rather have Thomas Jr. right now.

 

[steelwind]

Dropped in my 10 team half PPR league. Is he worth picking up if I drop Jalen McMillan for him?

He’s boom/bust. Has a specific route tree. But tied to Maholmes.

McMillan has starter route tree. Acquiring way more targets now. Though efficiency is the issue with Baker.

 

[Judge Smails]

I love his potential, but Mahomes just isn’t clicking on anything deep these days. He used to drop dimes to Hill. I don’t know what happened to him. I was going to start Worthy this week because TB secondary is so bad, but can Mahomes hit him, and will the weather be good enough to play him? Looks very bad right now. Considering cutting him in redraft for a WR who gets more targets. Downs etc

 

[steelwind]

Dropped in my 10 team half PPR league. Is he worth picking up if I drop Jalen McMillan for him?

He’s boom/bust. Has a specific route tree. But tied to Maholmes.

McMillan has starter route tree. Acquiring way more targets now. Though efficiency is the issue with Baker.

Picked him up for $2 out of $100 budget. Dropped McMillan. For my team it's an end of bench WR depth piece and KC is done with their bye with a great SoS schedule for WRs. That was the main assessment for making this move. Plus if I'm at disadvantage I can use Worthy as an upside boom play.

 

[LawFitz]

He's exactly what the Chiefs drafted him to be - a legit dangerous deep threat *complimentary piece* who would pull defenders away from and open the underneath routes for #1 Rice and #2 Kelce. They didn't draft him to be Tyreek. They drafted him to be Mecole or MVS but with reliable hands, which I believe he has - at least in spades compared to those two stone mits. Worthy doing exactly what was expected, albeit with rookie growing pains.

Problem is the underneath targets. Between Rice, Pacheco and Hollywood going down and Kelce and JuJu continuing to rust up, this offense is nothing like it was supposed to be. Hunt has been a huge boon, and perhaps Hopkins will provide the same juice infusion. They need it bad. What they really need is a young ascender like Tillman or Coker, but no way they pry either of those two now.

 

[Big Nate]

He's exactly what the Chiefs drafted him to be - a legit dangerous deep threat *complimentary piece* who would pull defenders away from and open the underneath routes for #1 Rice and #2 Kelce. They didn't draft him to be Tyreek. They drafted him to be Mecole or MVS but with reliable hands, which I believe he has - at least in spades compared to those two stone mits. Worthy doing exactly what was expected, albeit with rookie growing pains.

Problem is the underneath targets. Between Rice, Pacheco and Hollywood going down and Kelce and JuJu continuing to rust up, this offense is nothing like it was supposed to be. Hunt has been a huge boon, and perhaps Hopkins will provide the same juice infusion. They need it bad. What they really need is a young ascender like Tillman or Coker, but no way they pry either of those two now.

Yep, he is a more reliable (and better) Mecole/MVS who can eventually grow into a bigger role (but that might not be this year). Boom bust flex play in deeper leagues. My one league that has 2 flex I gladly put him in as my last flex spot for the big weeks. In PPR he's gotten me 16.3, 11.8, 5.4 and 13.7 the last 4 weeks scoring 3 TDs. Works for me for what I need him for.

 

[Big Nate]

Fun fact, he is currently WR39 in PPR for total points and he has a bye in there already where some don't. He went off as WR40 in our draft. Nailed it.

 

[dipandglide]

Were people expecting something different this year? Worthy has been solid. He's only going to improve.

 

[Uncle Leo]

Anyone really impressed with this guy? I ask since he was a first rounder. Not sure KC should have taken him.

 

[phandango]

Anyone really impressed with this guy? I ask since he was a first rounder. Not sure KC should have taken him.

Against one of the worst secondaries last night, one that's terrible defending deep shots, Worthy had -1 fantasy points. He should have had an easy 30-yard TD but got lost on the sideline, and he had another one where he failed to get his feet down. Terrible sideline awareness. Hopefully Hopkins can teach him a few things.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

I like him and I'm hanging onto him, granted, on the bench for now. But I'm expecting him to catch on and have faith that he will be a beast come playoff time.

 

[JohnnyU]

I like him and I'm hanging onto him, granted, on the bench for now. But I'm expecting him to catch on and have faith that he will be a beast come playoff time.

What worries me is he gets lost in the shuffle next year when all their WRs are healthy.

 

[Judge Smails]

Anyone really impressed with this guy? I ask since he was a first rounder. Not sure KC should have taken him.

Against one of the worst secondaries last night, one that's terrible defending deep shots, Worthy had -1 fantasy points. He should have had an easy 30-yard TD but got lost on the sideline, and he had another one where he failed to get his feet down. Terrible sideline awareness. Hopefully Hopkins can teach him a few things.

This. Between those 2 plays and the botched reverse (latter not his fault) KC got completely away from him. Never even looked his direction. Strictly a decoy to pull defenders his way. Mahomes/Reid trust everyone more than him. Kelce, Hopkins, JuJu, - even Watson and Hardman. He should have feasted against the worst secondary in the league and did nothing. Cutting him

 

[Doubles]

Will be starting Legette over him. Like I should’ve been doing anyway.

 

[ChiefD]

Tyreek Hill Year 1: 16 Games

61 Receptions
593 Yards
6 Rec TD's
267 Yards Rushing
3 Rush TD

Xavier Worthy Year 1: 8 Games

19 Receptions
235 Yards
3 Rec TD's
37 Yards Rushing
2 Rush TD


Through 8 games in Tyreek's rookie season:

22 Receptions
234 Yards
4 Rec TD's
45 Rushing Yards
0 Rushing TD's


Just some food for thought. Not saying Worthy is Tyreek, but I think there's more meat on the bone for Worthy coming down the line.

 

[Big Nate]

KC rookie WRs have been slow to be fully incorporated into the game. In dynasty this guy is a long term hold. They are already manufacturing touches for him. Now the goal for him is to keep improving so he can run all the routes and be a full time WR playing all the snaps.

This guy is still a rookie.

 

[Pietaster2]

I dropped XW today for Noah Brown in one redraft league and Coker in another. I’m sure he’s fine dynasty hold, but I’m not seeing any upside or consistency for this season.

 

[Winning IS Everything]

I am in a ten team ten player keeper league. I drafted Worthy, and right after Rice's injury I traded Kupp for Rice. I was willing to take the hit to have two shots at a Mahomes top target next year.

 

[JohnnyU]

I am in a ten team ten player keeper league. I drafted Worthy, and right after Rice's injury I traded Kupp for Rice. I was willing to take the hit to have two shots at a Mahomes top target next year.

Yep, right up until they trade for another stud WR.

 

[Faust]

Is Chiefs WR Xavier Worthy due for a breakout second half?

 

[Doubles]

He definitely lost his starting spot in my 12 team. For a while. But for sure not dropping him.

 

[Faust]

James Palmer
Xavier Worthy is growing right before our eyes in the last few weeks. Took a minute to my understanding for them to get fully on the same page and now they're clicking at the right time.

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[Judge Smails]

He’s maturing for sure. Think the game will slow down for him. Sideline awareness etc

 

[Faust]

Ray G
I've been advising folk to be patient with Xaiver Worthy. Since week 11, his usage has been right there with Marvin Harrison and Rome Odunze, and he's also been the better scoring option.

This is football folks, not Madden. Be patient and RELAX #TrustTheTrinity #ChiefsKingdom

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[Big Nate]

This just in, rookies take time.

I'll say it again so we can all remember next year. Rookies are way too hyped coming out of the draft. "Analysts" need their hits and throw takes out left and right hyping up their guys. Sometimes it takes a while (year or 2) before these guys get up to speed. Also, if they don't do anything the first half of the season doesn't mean they suck. Maybe just don't draft them in redraft - or pick them up mid-season when they are dropped.

 

[Faust]

Chiefs rookie Xavier Worthy growing into WR1 for Mahomes

 

[ffmail4me]

Nice game today!

 

[Uncle Leo]

Not a fan, but he’s proving me wrong about being a one-trick pony.

 

[MrSoup]

I swapped him out with Zay Flowers 10 minutes before kickoff.



On the bright side, he might be doing just enough to wind up being a low end keeper in a 10 team 5 keeper league that values youth.

 

[candian fantasy guy]

it’s hard to not like the easy 4-5 catches a game in PPR. I know the season is now over for FF, but he will be a must start in 2025. If he can get better down the field, skies the limit for him, I am thinking T Hill like.

 

[djjosee]

What about next year?

a) A year of getting to know the offence
b) Brown free agent
c) Possible suspension for Rice
d) Kelce a year older

Hmmm

slowly getting there …
Hopkins / JuJu / Watson / Hardman all FA as well.

 

[MrSoup]

Would love to see this kid grind hard this offseason. Weight room, diet, playbook, get work in with Patrick. Ideally would like to see him bulk up to 180-185ish. He has the opportunity to be the #1 option for one of the best QBs to ever play the game. He needs to grab that brass ring.

 

[Kiddnets]

Losing Rice definitely sped up his learning - interested to see how he develops with Rice back to take some of the pressure off.

 

[ChiefD]

Would love to see this kid grind hard this offseason. Weight room, diet, playbook, get work in with Patrick. Ideally would like to see him bulk up to 180-185ish. He has the opportunity to be the #1 option for one of the best QBs to ever play the game. He needs to grab that brass ring.

Would be interesting.

Tyreek was basically 5'9 and 185 solid pounds before the draft.

Worthy is 5'11 and 165.

Frames are also very different. But if Worthy can even get to 175-180 that would be awesome with his speed.

 

[Faust]

Xavier Worthy Finally Found His Place In Kansas City Chiefs' Offense

 

[JohnnyU]

Losing Rice definitely sped up his learning - interested to see how he develops with Rice back to take some of the pressure off.

If / when Rice returns and with the continued acclimation of Brown, does anyone worry about target share in the future?

 

[ChiefD]

Losing Rice definitely sped up his learning - interested to see how he develops with Rice back to take some of the pressure off.

If / when Rice returns and with the continued acclimation of Brown, does anyone worry about target share in the future?

I don't.

Kelce is going to retire at some point. To me, it looks to me like he's cooked now. He just has a lot of tired in those eyes.

I'd be shocked if he plays next season.

 

[JohnnyU]

Losing Rice definitely sped up his learning - interested to see how he develops with Rice back to take some of the pressure off.

If / when Rice returns and with the continued acclimation of Brown, does anyone worry about target share in the future?

I don't.

Kelce is going to retire at some point. To me, it looks to me like he's cooked now. He just has a lot of tired in those eyes.

I'd be shocked if he plays next season.

Kelce also looked like he was running in cement shoes. He's a smart route runner and knows how to get open, but he looks very slow.

 

[FantasyGuru24]

Does Worthy look like a top 15 WR in 2025? .. In a 2025 fantasy draft where are you taking him assuming every is healthy and coming back on the Chiefs .. Early round 3?

 

[King of the Jungle]

Does Worthy look like a top 15 WR in 2025? .. In a 2025 fantasy draft where are you taking him assuming every is healthy and coming back on the Chiefs .. Early round 3?

Probably one of those guys that will be a little rich for my liking. However it will depend what the competition looks like and what the Rice situation is. I am imagine they will refill the cupboard as they have had injury issues at the position the last few years.

 

[jm192]

Does Worthy look like a top 15 WR in 2025? .. In a 2025 fantasy draft where are you taking him assuming every is healthy and coming back on the Chiefs .. Early round 3?

I could see a world where he finishes top 15.

I don't know that I'm confident enough to pay that price for him, though. He's had a nice 3 game run and if he continues to build on it in the playoffs, he becomes a lot more appealing. I'd prefer to land him as a WR3 given his kind of boom/bust nature so far this year. If he continues to show consistency, maybe he kind of moves up into that WR2 territory.

If Rice wasn't coming back, it's easier to project. Rice's impending return muddies the crystal ball.

 

[Uncle Leo]

Does Worthy look like a top 15 WR in 2025? .. In a 2025 fantasy draft where are you taking him assuming every is healthy and coming back on the Chiefs .. Early round 3?

No.

 

[MrSoup]

This kid is going to explode next season.

 

[Uncle Leo]

How long will Rice be out? Injury and/or suspension.

 

[metoo]

This kid is going to explode next season.

I could see a Jamo like season plus Rice will be back. Pick up a rb in the draft and they’ll probably be back in the superbowl again.

 

[JohnnyU]

How long will Rice be out? Injury and/or suspension.

Who knows how he will recover from LCL and hamstring tendon surgery. I'm assuming if there is a suspension it will be x number of weeks to start the season.

 

[Hoh]

This kid is going to explode next season.

I could see a Jamo like season plus Rice will be back. Pick up a rb in the draft and they’ll probably be back in the superbowl again.

Treveon Henderson would be scary