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WSOP Main Event - Hellmuth controversy (1 Viewer)

Don't Noonan said:
I think it was a brain fart and he realized his mistake right away.  At least he was in the hand.  I hate it when guys who fold pre flop blurt out "can I have my cards back" or "why did I fold" after the flop comes out.  One time at my local casino I 4 bet pre flop with pocket aces and had one caller.  Flop was K-K-5 and some jackass at the table said "I can't believe I folded a king!".  I was pissed, but I wasn't sure if caller heard him so I didn't bring it up.  They guy beat me with Ace King, knowing I couldn't of had a King if he heard the guy.  Super bs
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Probably my former roommate.

 
Mr.Pack said:
Agreed, but he also shut it down pretty quickly when he realized he screwed up.
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Right.  I actually think this was a genuine mistake on his part (not him whining, but him whining without realizing first position was still in the hand). 

A few years ago Phil Ivey mucked a one card flush for the winning hand. I remember thinking, "wow, even the pros make mistakes."

 
What an awful round that was. Stick card dead except for losing two close razz hands.  8k.  Time for a heater. 

 
Stud high.  Ace high flush on 6th.   River 3 for opponent makes a boat and I'm out on a 20k pot. 

 
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What are the exact rules / etiquette on a player getting a count on someone else's stack that hasn't been pushed in?

Does the other player have to give them a count?   Will the dealer count if the player doesn't?  What if the player gives them an inaccurate count?

Just curious.

 
GregR said:
What are the exact rules / etiquette on a player getting a count on someone else's stack that hasn't been pushed in?

Does the other player have to give them a count?   Will the dealer count if the player doesn't?  What if the player gives them an inaccurate count?

Just curious.
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A player doesn’t have to say anything by rule. A dealer will tell you if you ask. I don’t think there is a rule if the player lies or miscounts. 

 
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Cjw_55106 said:
A player doesn’t have to say anything by rule. A dealer will tell you if you ask. I don’t think there is a rule if the player lies or miscounts. 
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The dealer is supposed to count and correct. That would be a big no-no if a player intentionally misrepresented his stack. In fact, you have to stack your chips with larger chips in front or on top.

 
My poker viewing has dropped off over the last few years. This has been the most enjoyable WSOP for me in years.

 
Getzlaf15 said:
the prior bluffs by both are really getting into their heads now.
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Cynn calling that shove with the pair of fours would've been the most incredible final hand of a WSOP ever.

But, I think it's pretty clear that Cynn's a better player here, and he knew he'd be able to chip away at him. 

 
Glad Cynn won - I liked his style and other than Cada pulling off the improbable double he was the one I wanted to see most. 

I'm sure the people who want to see a guy be a poker ambassador was cheering Dyer losing.  Man he was boring.  Probably just trying to be reserved and focused but still.

It was a great watch - really good display of showing what goes into playing the game.

-QG

 
Embarrassing for poker. Though enduring past 7000+ foes is an estimable feat, easily the two worst heads-up players in WSOP history. More tells than a Swiss phone book, both of em, and the broadcast team fumbling over their avoidance of saying so was almost as shameful.

 
wikkidpissah said:
Embarrassing for poker. Though enduring past 7000+ foes is an estimable feat, easily the two worst heads-up players in WSOP history. More tells than a Swiss phone book, both of em, and the broadcast team fumbling over their avoidance of saying so was almost as shameful.
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It is fairly shocking that with the amount of world class players on this site that none of taking home the Main Event yet

 
JuniorGong said:
It is fairly shocking that with the amount of world class players on this site that none of taking home the Main Event yet
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it's always gonna be a longshot, but a lot of it's the pro's own fault for lobbying for hedges & democratization (flattened pay structure, adding chips & the levels dont even seem to matter anymore). pay only the top 100 and tighten/heighten the blinds, things might change. all credit to the finalists, though - final-tabling is an incredible feat no matter what. but the heads-up was pure Thursday nite in Albuquerque poker

 
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