Yet another Pitt Bull attack (1 Viewer)

[Otis]

All else being equal, I'll rent to the person who doesn't have a neck tattoo or a dog that could eat one of the neighbors.

+1

 

[bigbottom]

It's pointless debating this with you.

I shoot down your points and you come back with that garbage which has absolutely no relevance on the topic.

You assume (incorrectly) that these landlords won't look at background checks and credit reports, and won't require first and last month's rent. I'm sure they will. Killer dog ownership and neck tattoos are simply additional evaluation factors.

I disagree. There are many landlords out there who don't do all of those things (at their own detriment, of course.)

I said "these landlords" referring to those who would be disinclined to rent to neck tattoo wearers and killer dog owners. Those type of landlords are astute in their judgment and will likely be taking those precautions. But I agree with you that the pro-neck tattoo and pro-killer dog landlords are unlikely to do things like run background checks and credit reports.

 

[Otis]

The thing that gets me the most is, most pitt-owners that I talk to about this subject mention things like "mine is the sweetest, greatest dog I've ever owned, he/she would never do anything like that"

And then it seems like in every story you read something along the line of "This pitt was the sweetest dog, never showed any kind of aggression in the past before it ripped the windpipe out of the 3 year old. I never saw this coming"

Might as well have a landmine in your back yard. It'll be the sweetest most gentle landmine around, sit dormant for years, never hurting anyone... until someone steps on it wrong.

Yeah but, dude, you gotta admit, it's pretty bad ### to have a sweet landmine in your yard. And besides it's probably an inactive landmine because you saw some kids step on it once before and it didn't blow them up.

So it's cool.

 

[Otis]

We could make a list of red flags that would disincline a reasonable landlord to rent to a prospective renter:

- owns Pitt bull

- face tattoos

- neck tattoos with demonic slogans

- someone who shows up to the showing in head-to-toe body paint

- in-home hand grenade manufacturers

- ISIS generals

- weapons grade plutonium collectors

- people who walk around with those spikes through their faces

- anyone who drives a Honda Civic with those annoyingly loud buzzzzzz exhausts and racing stripes

- members of the KKK

- serial killers

This making any sense for you yet? Or not really?

 

[Max Power]

We could make a list of red flags that would disincline a reasonable landlord to rent to a prospective renter:

- owns Pitt bull

- face tattoos

- neck tattoos with demonic slogans

- someone who shows up to the showing in head-to-toe body paint

- in-home hand grenade manufacturers

- ISIS generals

- weapons grade plutonium collectors

- people who walk around with those spikes through their faces

- anyone who drives a Honda Civic with those annoyingly loud buzzzzzz exhausts and racing stripes

- members of the KKK

- serial killers

This making any sense for you yet? Or not really?

What about guns? Do they make the list?

 

[Bogeys]

We could make a list of red flags that would disincline a reasonable landlord to rent to a prospective renter:

- owns Pitt bull

- face tattoos

- neck tattoos with demonic slogans

- someone who shows up to the showing in head-to-toe body paint

- in-home hand grenade manufacturers

- ISIS generals

- weapons grade plutonium collectors

- people who walk around with those spikes through their faces

- anyone who drives a Honda Civic with those annoyingly loud buzzzzzz exhausts and racing stripes

- members of the KKK

- serial killers

This making any sense for you yet? Or not really?

Assuming a she, wouldn't this depend on what she looks like? Lots of women I wouldn't mind if they ran around all the time like that.

 

[Otis]

We could make a list of red flags that would disincline a reasonable landlord to rent to a prospective renter:

- owns Pitt bull

- face tattoos

- neck tattoos with demonic slogans

- someone who shows up to the showing in head-to-toe body paint

- in-home hand grenade manufacturers

- ISIS generals

- weapons grade plutonium collectors

- people who walk around with those spikes through their faces

- anyone who drives a Honda Civic with those annoyingly loud buzzzzzz exhausts and racing stripes

- members of the KKK

- serial killers

This making any sense for you yet? Or not really?

What about guns? Do they make the list?

Tempted. Really it would be nice to have a housing community free of any unnecessary items that could otherwise kill folks. Pitt bulls, machine guns, nukes, venomous hundred pound killer snapping turtles, etc. If folks want a pet they can get a hamster or a cat, or any of a million other dog breeds, and for fun, instead of shooting people, they could play Parchesi or Scrabble.

 

[Thorn]

Why are people insisting on spelling it "pitt" bull?

 

[bigbottom]

Why are people insisting on spelling it "pitt" bull?

Extra T for terror.

 

[Cold Dead Hands]

Why are people insisting on spelling it "pitt" bull?

I like to equate them to a team I truly despise, Pitt Panthers

 

[AAABatteries]

We could make a list of red flags that would disincline a reasonable landlord to rent to a prospective renter:

- owns Pitt bull

- face tattoos

- neck tattoos with demonic slogans

- someone who shows up to the showing in head-to-toe body paint

- in-home hand grenade manufacturers

- ISIS generals

- weapons grade plutonium collectors

- people who walk around with those spikes through their faces

- anyone who drives a Honda Civic with those annoyingly loud buzzzzzz exhausts and racing stripes

- members of the KKK

- serial killers

This making any sense for you yet? Or not really?

What about guns? Do they make the list?

I know you are trying to make a point with Otis, but overall it's an interesting notion. I'd be curious if biggie or some other lawyer could tell us if that is done in places and whether it is legal? I'm guessing it is since owning a pitbull is legal but I'm not sure if I've heard of an HOA banning guns. I'd be most interested in whether there was any good data on if that made a community safer. My guess is there is not enough data to prove the point.

 

[steelerfan1]

so what % of this breed would you classify as unstable vicious killers?

 

[AAABatteries]

so what % of this breed would you classify as unstable vicious killers?

Don't see how that is relevant

 

[steelerfan1]

so what % of this breed would you classify as unstable vicious killers?

Don't see how that is relevant

what % of great dane would you classify as unstable vicious killers?

 

[Otis]

so what % of this breed would you classify as unstable vicious killers?

Does it matter? If it's a breed that has proven to have a proclivity towards killing children, and which presents a greater risk than other breeds, oh, hey, here's an idea, get another stupid pet instead. It's not like this is a special magic breed that you need because they also do your taxes or something. It's a freaking dog. It doesn't matter.

 

[Otis]

Oh here's another one: you know those idiots who drive aggressively and right up the rear of the person in front of them and who weave in and out of lanes without signaling? Would not stun me to see s higher incidence of this kind of driving from pit bull owners.

People have alarmingly bad risk management skills.

 

[steelerfan1]

so what % of this breed would you classify as unstable vicious killers?

Does it matter? If it's a breed that has proven to have a proclivity towards killing children, and which presents a greater risk than other breeds, oh, hey, here's an idea, get another stupid pet instead. It's not like this is a special magic breed that you need because they also do your taxes or something. It's a freaking dog. It doesn't matter.

a great dane has been known to kill a person. a pit bull has been known to kill a person. quite a few breeds have been known to kill a person. if you say a % doesn't matter, using that, we need to destroy pit bulls, great danes and other breeds who have shown they can kill people.

if you eliminate the pit bull breed there will then become another breed of dog that represents a bigger risk than other breeds, and so on, and so on...

 

[BigSteelThrill]

so what % of this breed would you classify as unstable vicious killers?

Does it matter? If it's a breed that has proven to have a proclivity towards killing children, and which presents a greater risk than other breeds, oh, hey, here's an idea, get another stupid pet instead. It's not like this is a special magic breed that you need because they also do your taxes or something. It's a freaking dog. It doesn't matter.

a great dane has been known to kill a person. a pit bull has been known to kill a person. quite a few breeds have been known to kill a person. if you say a % doesn't matter, using that, we need to destroy pit bulls, great danes and other breeds who have shown they can kill people.

if you eliminate the pit bull breed there will then become another breed of dog that represents a bigger risk than other breeds, and so on, and so on...

Breeding. Its why many wild canines aren't allowed as pets, yet they are also dogs.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

so what % of this breed would you classify as unstable vicious killers?

Does it matter? If it's a breed that has proven to have a proclivity towards killing children, and which presents a greater risk than other breeds, oh, hey, here's an idea, get another stupid pet instead. It's not like this is a special magic breed that you need because they also do your taxes or something. It's a freaking dog. It doesn't matter.

a great dane has been known to kill a person. a pit bull has been known to kill a person. quite a few breeds have been known to kill a person. if you say a % doesn't matter, using that, we need to destroy pit bulls, great danes and other breeds who have shown they can kill people.

if you eliminate the pit bull breed there will then become another breed of dog that represents a bigger risk than other breeds, and so on, and so on...

I didn't know the Great Dane was also bred for the sole purpose of fighting and killing other dogs? Guess you learn something new everyday.

Pits were literally bred to kill Bulls (2000 lb) and Bears. Or have themselves killed if they did not finish the job..

 

[cstu]

so what % of this breed would you classify as unstable vicious killers?

Does it matter? If it's a breed that has proven to have a proclivity towards killing children, and which presents a greater risk than other breeds, oh, hey, here's an idea, get another stupid pet instead. It's not like this is a special magic breed that you need because they also do your taxes or something. It's a freaking dog. It doesn't matter.

a great dane has been known to kill a person. a pit bull has been known to kill a person. quite a few breeds have been known to kill a person. if you say a % doesn't matter, using that, we need to destroy pit bulls, great danes and other breeds who have shown they can kill people.

if you eliminate the pit bull breed there will then become another breed of dog that represents a bigger risk than other breeds, and so on, and so on...

A weiner dog has never been known to kill a person. Just sayin'.

 

[steelerfan1]

so what % of this breed would you classify as unstable vicious killers?

Does it matter? If it's a breed that has proven to have a proclivity towards killing children, and which presents a greater risk than other breeds, oh, hey, here's an idea, get another stupid pet instead. It's not like this is a special magic breed that you need because they also do your taxes or something. It's a freaking dog. It doesn't matter.

a great dane has been known to kill a person. a pit bull has been known to kill a person. quite a few breeds have been known to kill a person. if you say a % doesn't matter, using that, we need to destroy pit bulls, great danes and other breeds who have shown they can kill people.

if you eliminate the pit bull breed there will then become another breed of dog that represents a bigger risk than other breeds, and so on, and so on...

I didn't know the Great Dane was also bred for the sole purpose of fighting and killing other dogs? Guess you learn something new everyday.

but yet, a great dane has killed before.

 

[eoMMan]

so what % of this breed would you classify as unstable vicious killers?

Does it matter? If it's a breed that has proven to have a proclivity towards killing children, and which presents a greater risk than other breeds, oh, hey, here's an idea, get another stupid pet instead. It's not like this is a special magic breed that you need because they also do your taxes or something. It's a freaking dog. It doesn't matter.

a great dane has been known to kill a person. a pit bull has been known to kill a person. quite a few breeds have been known to kill a person. if you say a % doesn't matter, using that, we need to destroy pit bulls, great danes and other breeds who have shown they can kill people.if you eliminate the pit bull breed there will then become another breed of dog that represents a bigger risk than other breeds, and so on, and so on...

I didn't know the Great Dane was also bred for the sole purpose of fighting and killing other dogs? Guess you learn something new everyday.

Pits were literally bred to kill Bulls (2000 lb) and Bears. Or have themselves killed if they did not finish the job..

They were NOT bred to kill bulls and bears. They were bred to bite the bull on the nose (bull baiting) and keep it busy....not kill the bull by itself.

You guys are ridiculous.

 

[Otis]

so what % of this breed would you classify as unstable vicious killers?

Does it matter? If it's a breed that has proven to have a proclivity towards killing children, and which presents a greater risk than other breeds, oh, hey, here's an idea, get another stupid pet instead. It's not like this is a special magic breed that you need because they also do your taxes or something. It's a freaking dog. It doesn't matter.

a great dane has been known to kill a person. a pit bull has been known to kill a person. quite a few breeds have been known to kill a person. if you say a % doesn't matter, using that, we need to destroy pit bulls, great danes and other breeds who have shown they can kill people.

if you eliminate the pit bull breed there will then become another breed of dog that represents a bigger risk than other breeds, and so on, and so on...

So what you're saying is if we can eliminate this unnecessary murder risk from society, it then gives us nothing better to do than try and eliminate the next most unnecessary murder risk?

Ok.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

so what % of this breed would you classify as unstable vicious killers?

Does it matter? If it's a breed that has proven to have a proclivity towards killing children, and which presents a greater risk than other breeds, oh, hey, here's an idea, get another stupid pet instead. It's not like this is a special magic breed that you need because they also do your taxes or something. It's a freaking dog. It doesn't matter.

a great dane has been known to kill a person. a pit bull has been known to kill a person. quite a few breeds have been known to kill a person. if you say a % doesn't matter, using that, we need to destroy pit bulls, great danes and other breeds who have shown they can kill people.if you eliminate the pit bull breed there will then become another breed of dog that represents a bigger risk than other breeds, and so on, and so on...

I didn't know the Great Dane was also bred for the sole purpose of fighting and killing other dogs? Guess you learn something new everyday.

Pits were literally bred to kill Bulls (2000 lb) and Bears. Or have themselves killed if they did not finish the job..

They were NOT bred to kill bulls and bears. They were bred to bite the bull on the nose (bull baiting) and keep it busy....not kill the bull by itself.

You guys are ridiculous.

You are absolutely wrong.

They were bred to finish the fight. To remove the life of what they had attacked.

Making the attack on the under side of the neck instinctive.

Not releasing until the life was extinguished. Or they themselves would be destroyed.

 

[Cold Dead Hands]

so what % of this breed would you classify as unstable vicious killers?

Does it matter? If it's a breed that has proven to have a proclivity towards killing children, and which presents a greater risk than other breeds, oh, hey, here's an idea, get another stupid pet instead. It's not like this is a special magic breed that you need because they also do your taxes or something. It's a freaking dog. It doesn't matter.

a great dane has been known to kill a person. a pit bull has been known to kill a person. quite a few breeds have been known to kill a person. if you say a % doesn't matter, using that, we need to destroy pit bulls, great danes and other breeds who have shown they can kill people.if you eliminate the pit bull breed there will then become another breed of dog that represents a bigger risk than other breeds, and so on, and so on...

A weiner dog has never been known to kill a person. Just sayin'.

They are a severe tripping hazard.

 

[steelerfan1]

so what % of this breed would you classify as unstable vicious killers?

Does it matter? If it's a breed that has proven to have a proclivity towards killing children, and which presents a greater risk than other breeds, oh, hey, here's an idea, get another stupid pet instead. It's not like this is a special magic breed that you need because they also do your taxes or something. It's a freaking dog. It doesn't matter.

a great dane has been known to kill a person. a pit bull has been known to kill a person. quite a few breeds have been known to kill a person. if you say a % doesn't matter, using that, we need to destroy pit bulls, great danes and other breeds who have shown they can kill people.

if you eliminate the pit bull breed there will then become another breed of dog that represents a bigger risk than other breeds, and so on, and so on...

So what you're saying is if we can eliminate this unnecessary murder risk from society, it then gives us nothing better to do than try and eliminate the next most unnecessary murder risk?

Ok.

what I'm saying is lets be consistent. if a every life matters we need to rid the world of all that have been guilty of taking a life. lets kill off 95% of the good for 5% of the bad. makes perfect sense.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

so what % of this breed would you classify as unstable vicious killers?

Does it matter? If it's a breed that has proven to have a proclivity towards killing children, and which presents a greater risk than other breeds, oh, hey, here's an idea, get another stupid pet instead. It's not like this is a special magic breed that you need because they also do your taxes or something. It's a freaking dog. It doesn't matter.

a great dane has been known to kill a person. a pit bull has been known to kill a person. quite a few breeds have been known to kill a person. if you say a % doesn't matter, using that, we need to destroy pit bulls, great danes and other breeds who have shown they can kill people.

if you eliminate the pit bull breed there will then become another breed of dog that represents a bigger risk than other breeds, and so on, and so on...

So what you're saying is if we can eliminate this unnecessary murder risk from society, it then gives us nothing better to do than try and eliminate the next most unnecessary murder risk?

Ok.

what I'm saying is lets be consistent. if a every life matters we need to rid the world of all that have been guilty of taking a life. lets kill off 95% of the good for 5% of the bad. makes perfect sense.

you arent making any sense. let alone perfect.

you are trying to downplay the very nature of pit-bulls.

 

[SWC]

so what % of this breed would you classify as unstable vicious killers?

Does it matter? If it's a breed that has proven to have a proclivity towards killing children, and which presents a greater risk than other breeds, oh, hey, here's an idea, get another stupid pet instead. It's not like this is a special magic breed that you need because they also do your taxes or something. It's a freaking dog. It doesn't matter.

a great dane has been known to kill a person. a pit bull has been known to kill a person. quite a few breeds have been known to kill a person. if you say a % doesn't matter, using that, we need to destroy pit bulls, great danes and other breeds who have shown they can kill people.

if you eliminate the pit bull breed there will then become another breed of dog that represents a bigger risk than other breeds, and so on, and so on...

I didn't know the Great Dane was also bred for the sole purpose of fighting and killing other dogs? Guess you learn something new everyday.

but yet, a great dane has killed before.

you are the greatest arguer on this thread brohan you win pit bulls for everyone and no more laws about leashes because how many leashes have ever killed anyone and i hope we amend the constitution to ensure that everyone has the right to bear a pit bull bam another big win for stellerfan1 take that to the bank brohans scoreboard

 

[steelerfan1]

so what % of this breed would you classify as unstable vicious killers?

Does it matter? If it's a breed that has proven to have a proclivity towards killing children, and which presents a greater risk than other breeds, oh, hey, here's an idea, get another stupid pet instead. It's not like this is a special magic breed that you need because they also do your taxes or something. It's a freaking dog. It doesn't matter.

a great dane has been known to kill a person. a pit bull has been known to kill a person. quite a few breeds have been known to kill a person. if you say a % doesn't matter, using that, we need to destroy pit bulls, great danes and other breeds who have shown they can kill people.

if you eliminate the pit bull breed there will then become another breed of dog that represents a bigger risk than other breeds, and so on, and so on...

So what you're saying is if we can eliminate this unnecessary murder risk from society, it then gives us nothing better to do than try and eliminate the next most unnecessary murder risk?

Ok.

what I'm saying is lets be consistent. if a every life matters we need to rid the world of all that have been guilty of taking a life. lets kill off 95% of the good for 5% of the bad. makes perfect sense.

you arent making any sense. let alone perfect.

you are trying to downplay the very nature of pit-bulls.

I am not trying to down play the severity of a pit bull or other dog attacks for that matter. there are bad pitbulls, but I am arguing the vast majority of them are not. there are bad great danes, but there is a vast majority that are not. the solution for 0 attacks is eliminate everything that has caused an attack. if killing everything for the small majority of bad I have a hard time reasoning what else you would apply that too.

 

[comfortably numb]

so what % of this breed would you classify as unstable vicious killers?

Does it matter? If it's a breed that has proven to have a proclivity towards killing children, and which presents a greater risk than other breeds, oh, hey, here's an idea, get another stupid pet instead. It's not like this is a special magic breed that you need because they also do your taxes or something. It's a freaking dog. It doesn't matter.

a great dane has been known to kill a person. a pit bull has been known to kill a person. quite a few breeds have been known to kill a person. if you say a % doesn't matter, using that, we need to destroy pit bulls, great danes and other breeds who have shown they can kill people.if you eliminate the pit bull breed there will then become another breed of dog that represents a bigger risk than other breeds, and so on, and so on...

So what you're saying is if we can eliminate this unnecessary murder risk from society, it then gives us nothing better to do than try and eliminate the next most unnecessary murder risk?

Ok.

what I'm saying is lets be consistent. if a every life matters we need to rid the world of all that have been guilty of taking a life. lets kill off 95% of the good for 5% of the bad. makes perfect sense.

you arent making any sense. let alone perfect.

you are trying to downplay the very nature of pit-bulls.

I am not trying to down play the severity of a pit bull or other dog attacks for that matter. there are bad pitbulls, but I am arguing the vast majority of them are not. there are bad great danes, but there is a vast majority that are not. the solution for 0 attacks is eliminate everything that has caused an attack. if killing everything for the small majority of bad I have a hard time reasoning what else you would apply that too.

The blacks?

I'm sure Otis wants to get rid of them too!

 

[steelerfan1]

so what % of this breed would you classify as unstable vicious killers?

Does it matter? If it's a breed that has proven to have a proclivity towards killing children, and which presents a greater risk than other breeds, oh, hey, here's an idea, get another stupid pet instead. It's not like this is a special magic breed that you need because they also do your taxes or something. It's a freaking dog. It doesn't matter.

a great dane has been known to kill a person. a pit bull has been known to kill a person. quite a few breeds have been known to kill a person. if you say a % doesn't matter, using that, we need to destroy pit bulls, great danes and other breeds who have shown they can kill people.

if you eliminate the pit bull breed there will then become another breed of dog that represents a bigger risk than other breeds, and so on, and so on...

So what you're saying is if we can eliminate this unnecessary murder risk from society, it then gives us nothing better to do than try and eliminate the next most unnecessary murder risk?

Ok.

what I'm saying is lets be consistent. if a every life matters we need to rid the world of all that have been guilty of taking a life. lets kill off 95% of the good for 5% of the bad. makes perfect sense.

What don't you understand? One has been engineered through selective breeding for over 200 years to be an efficient and relentless KILLING machine.

I have been around this breed and owned this breed for 23 years. I do not deal drugs, live in a trailer, have face tats and have good credit. my dogs have never harmed a person, a dog, or a cat for that matter. they live sleep and eat with cocker spaniels and spent the holiday with 2 5 pound papillions who they have never met before.

have a just been dodging bullets for going on 25 years now or could some of these dogs actually be ok?

 

[eoMMan]

so what % of this breed would you classify as unstable vicious killers?

Does it matter? If it's a breed that has proven to have a proclivity towards killing children, and which presents a greater risk than other breeds, oh, hey, here's an idea, get another stupid pet instead. It's not like this is a special magic breed that you need because they also do your taxes or something. It's a freaking dog. It doesn't matter.

a great dane has been known to kill a person. a pit bull has been known to kill a person. quite a few breeds have been known to kill a person. if you say a % doesn't matter, using that, we need to destroy pit bulls, great danes and other breeds who have shown they can kill people.if you eliminate the pit bull breed there will then become another breed of dog that represents a bigger risk than other breeds, and so on, and so on...

I didn't know the Great Dane was also bred for the sole purpose of fighting and killing other dogs? Guess you learn something new everyday.

Pits were literally bred to kill Bulls (2000 lb) and Bears. Or have themselves killed if they did not finish the job..

They were NOT bred to kill bulls and bears. They were bred to bite the bull on the nose (bull baiting) and keep it busy....not kill the bull by itself.You guys are ridiculous.

You are absolutely wrong.

They were bred to finish the fight. To remove the life of what they had attacked.

Making the attack on the under side of the neck instinctive.

Not releasing until the life was extinguished. Or they themselves would be destroyed.

Link to where pitbulls were bred to KILL bulls and bears?

 

[comfortably numb]

so what % of this breed would you classify as unstable vicious killers?

Does it matter? If it's a breed that has proven to have a proclivity towards killing children, and which presents a greater risk than other breeds, oh, hey, here's an idea, get another stupid pet instead. It's not like this is a special magic breed that you need because they also do your taxes or something. It's a freaking dog. It doesn't matter.

a great dane has been known to kill a person. a pit bull has been known to kill a person. quite a few breeds have been known to kill a person. if you say a % doesn't matter, using that, we need to destroy pit bulls, great danes and other breeds who have shown they can kill people.if you eliminate the pit bull breed there will then become another breed of dog that represents a bigger risk than other breeds, and so on, and so on...

So what you're saying is if we can eliminate this unnecessary murder risk from society, it then gives us nothing better to do than try and eliminate the next most unnecessary murder risk?

Ok.

what I'm saying is lets be consistent. if a every life matters we need to rid the world of all that have been guilty of taking a life. lets kill off 95% of the good for 5% of the bad. makes perfect sense.

What don't you understand? One has been engineered through selective breeding for over 200 years to be an efficient and relentless KILLING machine.

I have been around this breed and owned this breed for 23 years. I do not deal drugs, live in a trailer, have face tats and have good credit. my dogs have never harmed a person, a dog, or a cat for that matter. they live sleep and eat with cocker spaniels and spent the holiday with 2 5 pound papillions who they have never met before.have a just been dodging bullets for going on 25 years now or could some of these dogs actually be ok?

This is the story 99% of people have for all breeds. It's just that if their family dog attacks, usually a pit can have deadly results instead of cosmetic wounds.

Most would agree with that and that's the reason most people just don't think they are worth the unnecessary risk associated with that breed and do not feel comfortable around that breed.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

so what % of this breed would you classify as unstable vicious killers?

Does it matter? If it's a breed that has proven to have a proclivity towards killing children, and which presents a greater risk than other breeds, oh, hey, here's an idea, get another stupid pet instead. It's not like this is a special magic breed that you need because they also do your taxes or something. It's a freaking dog. It doesn't matter.

a great dane has been known to kill a person. a pit bull has been known to kill a person. quite a few breeds have been known to kill a person. if you say a % doesn't matter, using that, we need to destroy pit bulls, great danes and other breeds who have shown they can kill people.if you eliminate the pit bull breed there will then become another breed of dog that represents a bigger risk than other breeds, and so on, and so on...

I didn't know the Great Dane was also bred for the sole purpose of fighting and killing other dogs? Guess you learn something new everyday.

Pits were literally bred to kill Bulls (2000 lb) and Bears. Or have themselves killed if they did not finish the job..

They were NOT bred to kill bulls and bears. They were bred to bite the bull on the nose (bull baiting) and keep it busy....not kill the bull by itself.You guys are ridiculous.

You are absolutely wrong.

They were bred to finish the fight. To remove the life of what they had attacked.

Making the attack on the under side of the neck instinctive.

Not releasing until the life was extinguished. Or they themselves would be destroyed.

Link to where pitbulls were bred to KILL bulls and bears?

To kill.

The breeding and training included lots of animals.

That including Bears and Bulls (tho not specifically just those two animals, they were more accomplished then that) and even rats and other dogs.

The fact that they are bred to not ever back down (incl Bears and Bulls is the point) that why they were built. This could last as long as 3 or 4 hours.

 

[eoMMan]

so what % of this breed would you classify as unstable vicious killers?

Does it matter? If it's a breed that has proven to have a proclivity towards killing children, and which presents a greater risk than other breeds, oh, hey, here's an idea, get another stupid pet instead. It's not like this is a special magic breed that you need because they also do your taxes or something. It's a freaking dog. It doesn't matter.

a great dane has been known to kill a person. a pit bull has been known to kill a person. quite a few breeds have been known to kill a person. if you say a % doesn't matter, using that, we need to destroy pit bulls, great danes and other breeds who have shown they can kill people.if you eliminate the pit bull breed there will then become another breed of dog that represents a bigger risk than other breeds, and so on, and so on...

I didn't know the Great Dane was also bred for the sole purpose of fighting and killing other dogs? Guess you learn something new everyday.

Pits were literally bred to kill Bulls (2000 lb) and Bears. Or have themselves killed if they did not finish the job..

They were NOT bred to kill bulls and bears. They were bred to bite the bull on the nose (bull baiting) and keep it busy....not kill the bull by itself.You guys are ridiculous.

You are absolutely wrong.

They were bred to finish the fight. To remove the life of what they had attacked.

Making the attack on the under side of the neck instinctive.

Not releasing until the life was extinguished. Or they themselves would be destroyed.

Link to where pitbulls were bred to KILL bulls and bears?

To kill.

The breeding and training included lots of animals.

That including Bears and Bulls (tho not specifically just those two animals, they were more accomplished then that) and even rats and other dogs.

The fact that they are bred to not ever back down (incl Bears and Bulls is the point) that why they were built. This could last as long as 3 or 4 hours.

I don't see your link.

Where is it?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

To kill.

Its why my old black lab used to point at things. It was bred that way.

Here is just a random link/article... http://time.com/2891180/kfc-and-the-pit-bull-attack-of-a-little-girl/

Im sure you can see a wiki link if you want more basic info.

 

[eoMMan]

To kill.

Its why my old black lab used to point at things. It was bred that way.

Here is just a random link/article... http://time.com/2891180/kfc-and-the-pit-bull-attack-of-a-little-girl/

Im sure you can see a wiki link if you want more basic info.

Your link says nothing about being bred to kill bulls and bears.

 

[steelerfan1]

To kill.

Its why my old black lab used to point at things. It was bred that way.

Here is just a random link/article... http://time.com/2891180/kfc-and-the-pit-bull-attack-of-a-little-girl/

Im sure you can see a wiki link if you want more basic info.

"Boy, three, left with horrific facial injuries as Labrador savages him while his mother strokes puppy"

"Labrador shot and killed after attacking toddler in Maine"

"Tulsa infant killed by lab"

maybe these were bred different than yours? can you explain their behavior?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

To kill.

Its why my old black lab used to point at things. It was bred that way.

Here is just a random link/article... http://time.com/2891180/kfc-and-the-pit-bull-attack-of-a-little-girl/

Im sure you can see a wiki link if you want more basic info.

"Boy, three, left with horrific facial injuries as Labrador savages him while his mother strokes puppy"

"Labrador shot and killed after attacking toddler in Maine"

"Tulsa infant killed by lab"

maybe these were bred different than yours? can you explain their behavior?

All animals are not equal... all animals can inflict some damage.

Are you purposely being obtuse?

 

[Cold Dead Hands]

To kill.

Its why my old black lab used to point at things. It was bred that way.

Here is just a random link/article... http://time.com/2891180/kfc-and-the-pit-bull-attack-of-a-little-girl/

Im sure you can see a wiki link if you want more basic info.

"Boy, three, left with horrific facial injuries as Labrador savages him while his mother strokes puppy""Labrador shot and killed after attacking toddler in Maine"

"Tulsa infant killed by lab"

maybe these were bred different than yours? can you explain their behavior?

All animals are not equal... all animals can inflict some damage.

Are you purposely being obtuse?

Yes.

 

[IC FBGCav]

I need to check our HOA rules and see if these are allowed. Hoping not but if they are I may contact them to see what we can do to get them eliminated. Hopefully more and more HOAs take this step.

I was recently looking around for a rental home and I can say the majority of HOAs do not allow pit bulls. Its a shame really. I rescued a half pit half boxer a while back. Best dog I've ever had. Still had several places refuse to rent to me because of the dog.

Sounds like a good policy to have. I am sure your dog was the perfect gentle creature, but what is a property owner supposed to do? Meet every pet and give a thorough evaluation of it 6-7 times just so you can rent there? Think of it from their perspective and you can see how easy of a decision it is to simply outlaw these dogs from your property. Pretty easy decision to make, unless you are a moron.

Having a policy against Pitt or Pitt mixes also has the desired effect of legally allowing a landlord to weed out undesirables.

Undesirable in what way exactly?

if you have to ask...

What are you guys implying here? Race? Using the pitbull breed to fuel racism?

Race. Exactly, because no white people own Pitts.

I sense sarcasm in your post.Can you answer my question honestly? Undesirable in what way?

You can be honest.

https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?/topic/520448-yet-another-pitt-bull-attack/?p=18599187

 

[Cold Dead Hands]

Very good self notebook pull.

 

[El Floppo]

To kill.

Its why my old black lab used to point at things. It was bred that way.

Here is just a random link/article... http://time.com/2891180/kfc-and-the-pit-bull-attack-of-a-little-girl/

Im sure you can see a wiki link if you want more basic info.

"Boy, three, left with horrific facial injuries as Labrador savages him while his mother strokes puppy"

"Labrador shot and killed after attacking toddler in Maine"

"Tulsa infant killed by lab"

maybe these were bred different than yours? can you explain their behavior?

I'm kinda sorta on your side... except that when you look at the previously linked list of deaths by dog- most of them are pit bulls. that's where I jump ship.

 

[steelerfan1]

To kill.

Its why my old black lab used to point at things. It was bred that way.

Here is just a random link/article... http://time.com/2891180/kfc-and-the-pit-bull-attack-of-a-little-girl/

Im sure you can see a wiki link if you want more basic info.

"Boy, three, left with horrific facial injuries as Labrador savages him while his mother strokes puppy"

"Labrador shot and killed after attacking toddler in Maine"

"Tulsa infant killed by lab"

maybe these were bred different than yours? can you explain their behavior?

All animals are not equal... all animals can inflict some damage.

Are you purposely being obtuse?

yes, I am slow to understand why your lab killing someone is worse than my pit bull killing someone.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

To kill.

Its why my old black lab used to point at things. It was bred that way.

Here is just a random link/article... http://time.com/2891180/kfc-and-the-pit-bull-attack-of-a-little-girl/

Im sure you can see a wiki link if you want more basic info.

"Boy, three, left with horrific facial injuries as Labrador savages him while his mother strokes puppy"

"Labrador shot and killed after attacking toddler in Maine"

"Tulsa infant killed by lab"

maybe these were bred different than yours? can you explain their behavior?

All animals are not equal... all animals can inflict some damage.

Are you purposely being obtuse?

yes, I am slow to understand why your lab killing someone is worse than my pit bull killing someone.

It isnt worse. not as a single comparison which both ended in a fatality.

But when 6% of the dog population is netting 52% of the fatalities, and 68% of the attacks... you would have to be brain dead to not see the difference.

 

[steelerfan1]

To kill.

Its why my old black lab used to point at things. It was bred that way.

Here is just a random link/article... http://time.com/2891180/kfc-and-the-pit-bull-attack-of-a-little-girl/

Im sure you can see a wiki link if you want more basic info.

"Boy, three, left with horrific facial injuries as Labrador savages him while his mother strokes puppy"

"Labrador shot and killed after attacking toddler in Maine"

"Tulsa infant killed by lab"

maybe these were bred different than yours? can you explain their behavior?

I'm kinda sorta on your side... except that when you look at the previously linked list of deaths by dog- most of them are pit bulls. that's where I jump ship.

hi floppo. I could then asked to compare when these numbers started jumping but it really is not worth opening up as if 2 sides are unwilling to have the views changed I guess there is really no point at discussing, but this thread is like the bad car wreck you can't help but looking at...

 

[eoMMan]

To kill.

Its why my old black lab used to point at things. It was bred that way.

Here is just a random link/article... http://time.com/2891180/kfc-and-the-pit-bull-attack-of-a-little-girl/

Im sure you can see a wiki link if you want more basic info.

Your link says nothing about being bred to kill bulls and bears.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bull-baiting

Did you even read the link you provided?

I know what bull baiting is. That isn't the same as a pitbull killing a bull.

 

[eoMMan]

See, this is what we should be focused on....

Murder charges for OWNER of pitbulll that killed a 4 year old:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/murder-charge-filed-against-detroit-dog-owner-in-boys-death/ar-AAg7zF9?li=BBnbfcL

It's all about responsibility. Banning this breed won't solve anything. As it's been mentioned a million times in this thread, you'll just have another breed that will become popular some irresponsible owners and then we'll be talking about banning THAT breed.

I know the gun comparison has been mentioned several times but really, it's a fair one. When a person commits a violent crime with a gun, we don't ban that type of gun. We punish the person responsible for owning and using that dog. The same should be said for all dogs....whether it's a 70 pound pitbull full of sharp teeth, a 15 whiny beagle, or a 140 gentle sheepdog....they all have a owner that should held fully responsible for their actions.

 

[steelerfan1]

See, this is what we should be focused on....

Murder charges for OWNER of pitbulll that killed a 4 year old:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/murder-charge-filed-against-detroit-dog-owner-in-boys-death/ar-AAg7zF9?li=BBnbfcL

It's all about responsibility. Banning this breed won't solve anything. As it's been mentioned a million times in this thread, you'll just have another breed that will become popular some irresponsible owners and then we'll be talking about banning THAT breed.

I know the gun comparison has been mentioned several times but really, it's a fair one. When a person commits a violent crime with a gun, we don't ban that type of gun. We punish the person responsible for owning and using that dog. The same should be said for all dogs....whether it's a 70 pound pitbull full of sharp teeth, a 15 whiny beagle, or a 140 gentle sheepdog....they all have a owner that should held fully responsible for their actions.

HOGWASH! MAKES NO SENSE!

 

[bigbottom]

See, this is what we should be focused on....

Murder charges for OWNER of pitbulll that killed a 4 year old:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/murder-charge-filed-against-detroit-dog-owner-in-boys-death/ar-AAg7zF9?li=BBnbfcL

It's all about responsibility. Banning this breed won't solve anything. As it's been mentioned a million times in this thread, you'll just have another breed that will become popular some irresponsible owners and then we'll be talking about banning THAT breed.

I know the gun comparison has been mentioned several times but really, it's a fair one. When a person commits a violent crime with a gun, we don't ban that type of gun. We punish the person responsible for owning and using that dog. The same should be said for all dogs....whether it's a 70 pound pitbull full of sharp teeth, a 15 whiny beagle, or a 140 gentle sheepdog....they all have a owner that should held fully responsible for their actions.

It is unclear to me from reading that article what actions the owner took for which he should be held responsible. Do you know by chance? Or do you think that anyone who owns a pit (or a dog generally) that kills someone should be charged with murder?