Mister CIA
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Rampant hysteria has kept me away from this thread, but I liked this.
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Yet another Pitt Bull attack (1 Viewer)
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BustedKnuckles
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ya this story wont go over well with the theme of this thread and i expect it to be largely ignoredRampant hysteria has kept me away from this thread, but I liked this.
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parasaurolophus
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What kind of response do you want here? IIRC they recovered like 50 dogs. This is 11.ya this story wont go over well with the theme of this thread and i expect it to be largely ignoredRampant hysteria has kept me away from this thread, but I liked this.
These dogs have had thousands upon thousands of dollars spent on them. They were also dealt an awful hand. I am happy that they have found some happiness. It wasn't their fault. Most of them were considered unadoptable, which of course is perfectly understandable.
For the same reason I would never consider pointing out the unadoptable ones as an example of anything, you really aren't "proving" anything with this.
IC FBGCav
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The real question is would you leave one of those dogs alone with a nine year old?ya this story wont go over well with the theme of this thread and i expect it to be largely ignoredRampant hysteria has kept me away from this thread, but I liked this.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
What kind of response do you want here? IIRC they recovered like 50 dogs. This is 11.ya this story wont go over well with the theme of this thread and i expect it to be largely ignoredRampant hysteria has kept me away from this thread, but I liked this.
These dogs have had thousands upon thousands of dollars spent on them. They were also dealt an awful hand. I am happy that they have found some happiness. It wasn't their fault. Most of them were considered unadoptable, which of course is perfectly understandable.
For the same reason I would never consider pointing out the unadoptable ones as an example of anything, you really aren't "proving" anything with this.
exactly the response i expected lol
parasaurolophus
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A logical one?What kind of response do you want here? IIRC they recovered like 50 dogs. This is 11.ya this story wont go over well with the theme of this thread and i expect it to be largely ignoredRampant hysteria has kept me away from this thread, but I liked this.
These dogs have had thousands upon thousands of dollars spent on them. They were also dealt an awful hand. I am happy that they have found some happiness. It wasn't their fault. Most of them were considered unadoptable, which of course is perfectly understandable.
For the same reason I would never consider pointing out the unadoptable ones as an example of anything, you really aren't "proving" anything with this.
BustedKnuckles
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these arent just regular pits...these are fighting dogs that have shown they can be a loyal family pet...goes against every single thing most of you are spouting...i understand why you refuse to admit what is right in front of you but it doesn't mean you`re right...this is why you believe what you believe and i believe different....you guys post story after story of pit bull attacks and i post this and its like what i posted proves nothing when in fact it doesA logical one?What kind of response do you want here? IIRC they recovered like 50 dogs. This is 11.ya this story wont go over well with the theme of this thread and i expect it to be largely ignoredRampant hysteria has kept me away from this thread, but I liked this.
These dogs have had thousands upon thousands of dollars spent on them. They were also dealt an awful hand. I am happy that they have found some happiness. It wasn't their fault. Most of them were considered unadoptable, which of course is perfectly understandable.
For the same reason I would never consider pointing out the unadoptable ones as an example of anything, you really aren't "proving" anything with this.
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
It doesn't go against anything I believe or post about these dogs. You posted an article about 20% of a subset of dogs that turned out just fine(so far) after tens of thousands of dollars of training.
I will concede that tons MORE than 20% of all pit bulls will never injure a person.
Mister CIA
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BustedKnuckles
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Behavior experts from the ASPCA, Bad Rap from California, and Best Friends Animal Society arrived to complete the evaluation process. Each dog was to be tested for dog aggression as well as human aggression. It was hoped that two or three of the 49 surviving dogs (two died while in care) would be deemed salvageable. Imagine everyone's surprise when all but one of the dogs showed at least some degree of ability to be rehabilitated. That one dog, who had been bred and fought repeatedly, was just too emotionally and physically damaged to try and save. She was humanely euthanized. The remaining 48 dogs were dispersed to eight different rescue groups for adoption, rehabilitation or sanctuary.What kind of response do you want here? IIRC they recovered like 50 dogs. This is 11.ya this story wont go over well with the theme of this thread and i expect it to be largely ignoredRampant hysteria has kept me away from this thread, but I liked this.
These dogs have had thousands upon thousands of dollars spent on them. They were also dealt an awful hand. I am happy that they have found some happiness. It wasn't their fault. Most of them were considered unadoptable, which of course is perfectly understandable.
For the same reason I would never consider pointing out the unadoptable ones as an example of anything, you really aren't "proving" anything with this.
"All that the dogs seemed to know about people was that they were to be feared."Behavior experts from the ASPCA, Bad Rap from California, and Best Friends Animal Society arrived to complete the evaluation process. Each dog was to be tested for dog aggression as well as human aggression. It was hoped that two or three of the 49 surviving dogs (two died while in care) would be deemed salvageable. Imagine everyone's surprise when all but one of the dogs showed at least some degree of ability to be rehabilitated. That one dog, who had been bred and fought repeatedly, was just too emotionally and physically damaged to try and save. She was humanely euthanized. The remaining 48 dogs were dispersed to eight different rescue groups for adoption, rehabilitation or sanctuary.What kind of response do you want here? IIRC they recovered like 50 dogs. This is 11.ya this story wont go over well with the theme of this thread and i expect it to be largely ignoredRampant hysteria has kept me away from this thread, but I liked this.
These dogs have had thousands upon thousands of dollars spent on them. They were also dealt an awful hand. I am happy that they have found some happiness. It wasn't their fault. Most of them were considered unadoptable, which of course is perfectly understandable.
For the same reason I would never consider pointing out the unadoptable ones as an example of anything, you really aren't "proving" anything with this.
Those dogs might be even less likely to attack humans than your typical pit. Might catch the cattle prod.
BustedKnuckles
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you guys are priceless lmao"All that the dogs seemed to know about people was that they were to be feared."Behavior experts from the ASPCA, Bad Rap from California, and Best Friends Animal Society arrived to complete the evaluation process. Each dog was to be tested for dog aggression as well as human aggression. It was hoped that two or three of the 49 surviving dogs (two died while in care) would be deemed salvageable. Imagine everyone's surprise when all but one of the dogs showed at least some degree of ability to be rehabilitated. That one dog, who had been bred and fought repeatedly, was just too emotionally and physically damaged to try and save. She was humanely euthanized. The remaining 48 dogs were dispersed to eight different rescue groups for adoption, rehabilitation or sanctuary.What kind of response do you want here? IIRC they recovered like 50 dogs. This is 11.ya this story wont go over well with the theme of this thread and i expect it to be largely ignoredRampant hysteria has kept me away from this thread, but I liked this.
These dogs have had thousands upon thousands of dollars spent on them. They were also dealt an awful hand. I am happy that they have found some happiness. It wasn't their fault. Most of them were considered unadoptable, which of course is perfectly understandable.
For the same reason I would never consider pointing out the unadoptable ones as an example of anything, you really aren't "proving" anything with this.
Those dogs might be even less likely to attack humans than your typical pit. Might catch the cattle prod.
Card Trader
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BustedKnuckles
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and cherry pickingjust reading the article man
i can cherry pick also....
Since these were the first fighting dogs ever saved, it was critical that they went to stable homes with people who would be willing to do what was necessary to keep the dogs safe and happy. And all the safe-guards worked. The dogs have been integrated into homes with small children, cats and other dogs. There has never been a single issue with any of the dogs who were placed in loving homes.
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parasaurolophus
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Anybody know how much money per dog was awarded if they were determined to be able to be "rehabilitated" in some way? Keep in mind rehabilitated does not mean adoptable.
jabarony
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... said every owner of a pitbull, that killed someone, the day before the attack.
BustedKnuckles
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jabarony
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First time I posted that, if memory serves. Also, not really "material". Here's a news story from 5 days ago.so weak....find new material
http://abc13.com/news/woman-may-face-charges-in-brothers-death-after-pit-bull-attack/1148009/
A lawyer for Griffin-Heady says she had the dogs since they were puppies, and that they had always appeared tame and friendly around the boy.
"She's raised them...and she's never known them to do anything violent," the lawyer says.
They are all wonderful & well behaved dogs... until they're not.
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Chaka
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BustedKnuckles
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i didnt tell YOU to find new material.....ive seen that posted many times in this thread.First time I posted that, if memory serves. Also, not really "material". Here's a news story from 5 days ago.
http://abc13.com/news/woman-may-face-charges-in-brothers-death-after-pit-bull-attack/1148009/
A lawyer for Griffin-Heady says she had the dogs since they were puppies, and that they had always appeared tame and friendly around the boy.
"She's raised them...and she's never known them to do anything violent," the lawyer says.
They are all wonderful & well behaved dogs... until they're not.
Look...i would never say pits dont attack ...what i would say is most pits dont attack...the % of pits that dont attack is much higher than those that do ....my whole point is you cant condemn an entire breed because some attacked people...every pit that ive ever come in contact with has been awesome ...to the point that i was actually surprised how nice they were ...my buddies ex GF breeds them ...they are show dogs ...my buddy has a beautiful blue nose pit thats so gentle it backed away from my 15 yo pug when my pug lunged at the pit...she just looked at my pug like ''wtf?''...lets train these dogs properly instead of wiping them out
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Chaka
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Worst argument ever.
Check the numbers of accidental shooting deaths involving children. I guarantee you it is greater than the number of children killed by pit bulls.
And before responding remember that I am not really defending pit bull owners, I am just calling for some common sense in this debate.
Lutherman2112
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Valley Head man attacked by pack of dogs
January 14, 2016
By Chris Lee - Senior Staff Writer (clee@theintermountain.com) , Inter-Mountain
VALLEY HEAD - An elderly man required surgery Tuesday after a pack of large dogs attacked him while walking near his home, officials said.
The Randolph County dog warden and sheriff's office are actively seeking the dogs, which have been described as pit/pitbull mix, so they can be taken into custody while officers conduct a full investigation into the matter, officials confirmed Wednesday.
Valley Head resident Don Ware, 70, was walking on Marple Road near the Ware Town Cemetery between 11 and 11:30 a.m. when three dogs attacked him, the man's wife, Diane Ware, said.
She said the dogs relentlessly attacked her husband, causing significant damage to his legs, and were "going for his throat" and "trying to make him fall down," until their owner called the animals off. Don Ware was transported to Davis Medical Center in Elkins, where surgery was performed on his leg. He was released from the hospital at about 10 p.m.
"He said he thought they were going to kill him," she said.
Diane Ware said she believes owners of large dogs with aggressive tendencies must take extra precautions to ensure their neighbors are safe.
"If these dogs would have gotten ahold of a small kid, they would have killed them," she said. "Anybody with big dogs like that need to be extra careful."
Valley Head resident Amanda Beverage, a neighbor, said this most recent attack is not an isolated incident. She said the same dogs attacked her family's 6-year-old golden retriever on her 13-acre property June 30, killed one of their goats in October and attacked a neighbor's pig in November. She said the pig eventually died of its injuries. On Dec. 30, the pack returned to her property, where they attacked and killed her dog, she said.
"My dog Buddy was the sweetest dog," she said. "He wouldn't hurt a fly."
Beverage said immediate action is necessary because the dogs are attacking in a pack.
"If people can't control their animals - especially if they're this aggressive, there needs to be something done," she said. "It would be hard for me to put a pet down, but if my pet was mean and aggressive to another animal or person and I could not trust it, I would have to put it down."
Beverage said each of the incidents, which all involved direct witnesses, were reported to the Randolph County dog warden, but county officials never followed up.
"If they would have done something earlier this may not have happened to this man," she said. "Sure, we hated losing our animals, but every time that we reported an incident it was because of our concern that it could be a person next time."
Beverage noted Valley Head Elementary School is close to where the incidents occurred.
Randolph County Sheriff Mark Brady said the sheriff's office and the dog warden are conducting a full investigation into the incident. He added the dog warden has made him aware of prior incidents, as well.
"Any violations that have occurred, we'll make sure those are taken care of in court," he said.
Brady said it's important the dogs are caught and not running loose. He said that once captured, they will be taken into custody of the Randolph County Humane Society.
"We want to make sure that the Valley Head area is safe so this doesn't occur to anybody else," he said.
Brady added he'd like to encourage pet owners to take all the necessary precautions to keep their pets healthy and the community safe.
"It is your responsibility to make sure those animals are taken care of, fed and watered - and also that the community they are around is protected," he said. "It's your responsibility to ensure those dogs do not get loose in the community and attack other animals or individuals."
January 14, 2016
By Chris Lee - Senior Staff Writer (clee@theintermountain.com) , Inter-Mountain
VALLEY HEAD - An elderly man required surgery Tuesday after a pack of large dogs attacked him while walking near his home, officials said.
The Randolph County dog warden and sheriff's office are actively seeking the dogs, which have been described as pit/pitbull mix, so they can be taken into custody while officers conduct a full investigation into the matter, officials confirmed Wednesday.
Valley Head resident Don Ware, 70, was walking on Marple Road near the Ware Town Cemetery between 11 and 11:30 a.m. when three dogs attacked him, the man's wife, Diane Ware, said.
She said the dogs relentlessly attacked her husband, causing significant damage to his legs, and were "going for his throat" and "trying to make him fall down," until their owner called the animals off. Don Ware was transported to Davis Medical Center in Elkins, where surgery was performed on his leg. He was released from the hospital at about 10 p.m.
"He said he thought they were going to kill him," she said.
Diane Ware said she believes owners of large dogs with aggressive tendencies must take extra precautions to ensure their neighbors are safe.
"If these dogs would have gotten ahold of a small kid, they would have killed them," she said. "Anybody with big dogs like that need to be extra careful."
Valley Head resident Amanda Beverage, a neighbor, said this most recent attack is not an isolated incident. She said the same dogs attacked her family's 6-year-old golden retriever on her 13-acre property June 30, killed one of their goats in October and attacked a neighbor's pig in November. She said the pig eventually died of its injuries. On Dec. 30, the pack returned to her property, where they attacked and killed her dog, she said.
"My dog Buddy was the sweetest dog," she said. "He wouldn't hurt a fly."
Beverage said immediate action is necessary because the dogs are attacking in a pack.
"If people can't control their animals - especially if they're this aggressive, there needs to be something done," she said. "It would be hard for me to put a pet down, but if my pet was mean and aggressive to another animal or person and I could not trust it, I would have to put it down."
Beverage said each of the incidents, which all involved direct witnesses, were reported to the Randolph County dog warden, but county officials never followed up.
"If they would have done something earlier this may not have happened to this man," she said. "Sure, we hated losing our animals, but every time that we reported an incident it was because of our concern that it could be a person next time."
Beverage noted Valley Head Elementary School is close to where the incidents occurred.
Randolph County Sheriff Mark Brady said the sheriff's office and the dog warden are conducting a full investigation into the incident. He added the dog warden has made him aware of prior incidents, as well.
"Any violations that have occurred, we'll make sure those are taken care of in court," he said.
Brady said it's important the dogs are caught and not running loose. He said that once captured, they will be taken into custody of the Randolph County Humane Society.
"We want to make sure that the Valley Head area is safe so this doesn't occur to anybody else," he said.
Brady added he'd like to encourage pet owners to take all the necessary precautions to keep their pets healthy and the community safe.
"It is your responsibility to make sure those animals are taken care of, fed and watered - and also that the community they are around is protected," he said. "It's your responsibility to ensure those dogs do not get loose in the community and attack other animals or individuals."
BigSteelThrill
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Lutherman2112
Footballguy
Randolph county requires dogs to be registered/licensed. This pack of dogs most likely isn't registered, so proving ownership is difficult at this moment (this is my best guess). Protecting the public and finding the dogs is top priority now...but that wont be easy. Most of Randolph county lies within Monongahela National Forest and Kumbrabo State Forest. The entire county has a population of less than 35,000 people, and a population density of about 25 people per square mile. Few of the cities in Randolph county have their own police...its all on the sheriff.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
What if Pit bull owners could unload their dogs, you know, take the ammunition out of them then put on a safety and a trigger lock, if not locking them away? I'm picturing pits with removable dentures, muzzle guards, and strong crates.
For those taking matters too seriously or literally please know I am being facetious.
Of course this did seem to calm down the Bumble.
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Very. That said, why did she adopt the dog? Maybe she read all the pro-pit bull articles and figured she'd adopt one? Doesn't seem like she's a dirt bag or a "problem" owner. Similar to that girl who lived in a trailer on her step-parent's property. She tweeted about how much she loved the dogs and how they were originally bred to be nannies (something she likely read on a web site) and her dogs killed her nephew she was trying to adopt. I may have gotten some facts in that story wrong (not the nanny tweet).
Mister CIA
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jabarony
Footballguy
Obvious poor breeding in this pit bull attack.
http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/89746985-story
http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/89746985-story
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parasaurolophus
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Chaka
Footballguy
steelerfan1
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Could probably Google about 40 DUI deaths from yesterday as well, but that isn't a huge issue, because, there's like laws in place and stuff for that and this is the horrific creature thread...
beavers
Footballguy
Purchased a new house, only to discover that the neighbors adopted a pit bull that is highly energetic. I'm devastated. I was finally excited to move next door to someone my daughter to play with. Now, I am freaking out about this dog. They have a lab/pit mix and that dog seems fine.
I hope the dog gets loose, and then go for a long ride.
I hope the dog gets loose, and then go for a long ride.
Could be worse....they could be child molesters.
Or be irresponsible gun owners.
Or own 15 foot pythons.
Or run a crack house.
Or....
You get the point. You and your daughter will be okay.
IC FBGCav
Footballguy
None of these are worse than a dog that will attack and kill a child unprovoked. You get the point. This sucks beavers, you will always have to be on full alert outside with your daughter. Hopefully the keep the dog confined properly.
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Ditkaless Wonders
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My MIL lives in an apartment. The folks in the unit above her are noisy, often pee off their balcony, throw cigarette butts and beer cans over the rail to the ground floor, have all night parties, and rarely go a week without the cops being called (not by my MIL). The daughter of the woman upstairs moved in her parolee boyfriend two months ago because with no job and a felony record he was having a tough time finding housing. When he beat her and the cops were called she insisted he move out. He moved into the utility closet on my MIL's floor, scaring the #### out of her and others. The management company was slow to deal with the situation so I had a nice talk with the young man after which he no longer comes around.
Well the felon boyfriend had a pit bull he bought. He had no place to live, and no job, but he bought a pit bull. when he left the dog remained, a nice dog to hear the mother upstairs from my MIL tell it. last week that nice dog ate the miniature poodle the lady upstairs had. Ate it whole. the lady upstairs from my MIL is uncertain if it is dangerous and needs to be gotten rid of. In the meantime she has acquired another small puppy to replace the one which got eaten. Me, I don't like the puppy's chances.
Well the felon boyfriend had a pit bull he bought. He had no place to live, and no job, but he bought a pit bull. when he left the dog remained, a nice dog to hear the mother upstairs from my MIL tell it. last week that nice dog ate the miniature poodle the lady upstairs had. Ate it whole. the lady upstairs from my MIL is uncertain if it is dangerous and needs to be gotten rid of. In the meantime she has acquired another small puppy to replace the one which got eaten. Me, I don't like the puppy's chances.
Card Trader
Footballguy
Is there any such thing as a "good" pitt owner? If you own a pitt you are a bad dog owner. Period
beavers
Footballguy
They adopted the dog and were told that the dog is a year or two old. The owner says that he seems like he's a puppy still, since he is clumsy. The dog is super energetic and has a choke collar. The owner's 10 y/o son said the dog is crazy, and is nothing like her lab/pit mix. They adopted him because she thought the breed would be good to own. Anyway, the owner did put the dog in his cage when we were in the house and at this point, I refuse to let my daughter visit unless the dog is in the cage.
We were at a friend's house this weekend and my daughter was in fact, bit by a small toy dog. It was unprovoked and the dog snipped her in the mouth. Sucks. But at least she's still alive and not maimed.
BustedKnuckles
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beavers
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