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Yet another Pitt Bull attack (2 Viewers)

Tara FitzGerald had lived in New York City with her five-year-old dog, Biko, for four months when she crouched down to scratch his belly in the hallway of her apartment. As usual, the dog loved the attention, but then FitzGerald noticed a subtle, almost imperceptible shift in his mood. “Did you just growl at me, Beeks?” she joked. Later, she wrote,

The words were barely out of my mouth when his stocky frame came flying toward my face and knocked me backwards to the floor. His teeth were bared in a tight grimace, and he was snarling in a voice of wild fury I had never heard before. He seemed to be powered by a savage, primal rage. I still can’t quite reconstruct how it happened so quickly, how he went from prone to airborne in a split second, how [he] could flip and fly in one smooth movement, gaining such speed and trajectory that I never stood a chance of raising my arm in time to shield my face.

FitzGerald felt a “soft tearing sensation, like slow ripping through silk. Then hot blood gushed from my mouth, pumping out in heavy spurts.” Biko had torn through her face, removing “a large amount of soft tissue from lip and cheek,” according to her medical report from Bellevue Hospital. She would eventually require the expertise of several plastic surgeons, as well as that of a therapist who helped her work through her post-traumatic stress disorder. FitzGerald would never look - or be - the same. “What does it mean when your face is no longer the face you recognize?” she wrote.

When her veterinarian recommended that she euthanize Biko, FitzGerald felt conflicted. “I was horrified by the idea, and also a little frightened of the possibility that my decision might be coming from a vengeful place. I didn’t hate [my dog], but I did feel betrayed by him.” In the end, she decided that euthanasia was the best option because of something she did not originally disclose to medical personnel: Biko had bitten her before.

FitzGerald’s dog was a basset hound.

The pain and grief that FitzGerald felt over her disfigurement is evident in her writing, but she never blamed Biko’s actions on his breed, nor did she indict all other basset hounds. Rather, she accepted that after five years of love and companionship something incomprehensible had gone very wrong with her dog. Her story did not make the news.

Dickey, Bronwen. Pit Bull: The Battle over an American Icon (Kindle Locations 4216-4223). Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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pollardsvision said:
Apparently, pits have been banned in Montreal.
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What's a pit bull?

The new bylaw will apply to all 19 boroughs and will define pit bulls as:

-> Staffordshire bull terriers.
-> American pit bull terriers.
-> American Staffordshire terriers.
-> Any mix with these breeds.
-> Any dog that presents characteristics of one of those breeds.
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about as arbitrary as it gets

 
ChainsawU said:
tell me more. vagueness isn't the best thing was this arguement
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 His teeth were bared in a tight grimace, and he was snarling in a voice of wild fury I had never heard before. He seemed to be powered by a savage, primal rage

FitzGerald felt a “soft tearing sensation, like slow ripping through silk. Then hot blood gushed from my mouth, pumping out in heavy spurts.”

“What does it mean when your face is no longer the face you recognize?” she wrote.

like poetry

 
ChainsawU said:
yeah man but it's nothing to be celebrated.
I'm sorry to have said it, typed it I guess.
I think the takeaway from it is that in reading the story
breed was assumed
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... to be something other than a Pit.   The lady survived so you knew it had to be another kind of dog the whole time.

 
I think we can all agree that the world would be a much better place without pit bulls, fleas, ticks, and mosquitoes.  Although the insects may actually serve some ecological purpose that I just don't know about. 

 
So what's the deal with identifying these Pit Bulls?  Is this like a "I know it when I see it" type of thing?  Don't you all think it would be a better idea to be more accurate about this type of thing somehow?  I don't have solutions, but it seems to me that a dog could resemble one of these creatures, but isn't.  Right?

 
FatUncleJerryBuss said:
Do you really want to go here?  Just asking because I don't have a dog in this fight but will beat you down.
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Go where? Where we debate about the number of deadly golden retriever attacks in this country compared to deadly pit bull attacks? I will happily take the beatdown you will be administering then. Sounds like it would be good comedy.

 
Wildcat said:
Nevada pit bull mauls 6-month-old baby to death
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Here's some information from the original article that yours left out:

Dr. Richard Fujie, a veterinarian at King Street Pet Hospital, says pet dog attacks against a child are rare. He says most dogs realize the baby is special, so when an attack happens, it’s hard to pinpoint what triggered it.

“Like in humans, we all have different behaviors. Some are violent, some are passive. Dogs, the same thing too,” Fujie said. “In this situation, I have no idea what happened. It could be a sharp noise, loud noise that scared the dog. … Supervision is always important. Staying with your child when dog is around, keeping child and dog separate until they’re older is important.”

Fujie says you can also help the pet become more comfortable with a newborn by doing the following:

  • Prepare the dog months before the baby is brought home,
  • Introduce your child slowly to your pet,
  • Keep the pet active and part of family activities, and
  • Make sure no jealousy is involved.
Fujie notes that any dog, not just pit bulls, can attack.
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It's also interesting to notice the different headline choices made between the two news organizations:

KHON: Family from Oahu mourns baby killed by pet dog
Fox: Nevada pit bull mauls 6-month-old baby to death

 
All the "article" did was take another company's news story, omitted a lot of information, and added a new headline. You can see the effect it caused. That's a perfect argument as to how and why this breed has been so easily discriminated against.

 
Here you go:

Tips on how parents can introduce new babies to family dogs

By: Denise Valdez

Posted: May 09, 2017

LAS VEGAS - Neighbors say that a pit bull mix that killed a 6-month-old, barked a lot and didn't spend much time inside.

A lot has been made about the breed of dog in this latest case costing a young child her life. According to animal advocates on past dog attacks, babies have been injured by Rottweilers and pit bulls, but toddlers also have been injured by Labradors, and mixed breeds too.

Years ago, a baby in Rhode Island was killed by a Pomeranian.

These cases asks the question on what steps should parents take to properly introduce a new member of the family to a dog?

8 News Now anchor Denise Valdez has the story. link
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ChainsawU said:
Here you go:
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I have both a rottweiller mix and a pitbuill mix and an 8.25 month pregnant wife :scared:

Been prepping the dogs for the newborn a bit, the other day i played a 10-hour clip of a baby crying on youtube before i left for work. I was legit scared i would get home and the dogs would be so traumatized from 8 hours straight of a baby crying that it would sensitive them rather then desensitize them. Luckily, we are all still alive.

 
ChainsawU said:
All the "article" did was take another company's news story, omitted a lot of information, and added a new headline. You can see the effect it caused. That's a perfect argument as to how and why this breed has been so easily discriminated against.
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Was it not a Pit mix that killed the baby?  Seems like the only information that was omitted was information that wasn't pertinent to the actual incident. 

 
EYLive said:
  • Prepare the dog months before the baby is brought home,
  • Make sure no jealousy is involved.
How?
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not completely positive about the jealousy thing, but there are lists everywhere about preparing dogs for a newborn. Cats are actually little worse (from what i read, so take it for what it is). but here are a few things:

1. if the dog's schedule will change you should implement at least a month in advance (i.e. if dog sleeps in bed now, and plan is for that to not occur, don't wait until the last moment)

2. Play a recording of a crying baby to get the dog used to the loud, high-pitched screams. 

3. Some suggest several months before due date, to "play pretend" with a doll. they say to act like you are feeding, changing etc. 

4. make sure dog is up on shots and parasite free. Also, make sure dog understands "down", "stay" and "drop it". 

after the actual birth:

1. take anything that the baby has worn or been on and bring it to the house before the baby and mom get there. the dog should get used to the scent

2. when returning home, "you" (i.e. not the mother) should hold the baby and let the mom in the house. they haven't been there for a bit, so let that greeting occur first. when all is calm put dog on leash and let them get with-in 10 feet of baby. if dog remains calm let them get close enough to sniff a little.

3. don't let dog lick the baby's face for the first few months. crazy bacteria and baby's immune system is still being built

4. no matter how gentle of a dog you have, don't leave it alone with the baby

source: "Be Prepared: A practical handbook for New Dogs".Greenberg and Hayden.  Enjoyable read, little humor too

 
ChainsawU said:
All the "article" did was take another company's news story, omitted a lot of information, and added a new headline. You can see the effect it caused. That's a perfect argument as to how and why this breed has been so easily discriminated against.
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It's a breed of dog - I'm ok with it being discriminated against when it disproportionately kills compared to other breeds.

 
ChainsawU said:
There is no way you can say one type of dog is more responsible for bites than another type of dog.
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i feel like this is a never ending argument. Agreed, there is no data out there that tracks all dog bites. Walking my dogs over the last week, they have had pleasant interactions with most and have been attacked twice. Yesterday was a neighbor's Yorkie (8-10 pounds) who was barking and was not on a leash and came running up salivating and just nasty to my rottweiler. Thankfully (honestly not sure if training can take any credit here, some is simple temperament when approached like he was), my rottweiler didn't get riled up and literally just swatted the dog a few feet. My wife reminded me that this is the same little bugger that bit my rottweiler a few months ago. Some of this is good training, etc., but my guys are definitely on the losing end of dog bites vs other dog bites

ETA: i do think on my block i am the only one who takes my dogs for about an hour or more walk everyday. I think training is key with a lot of this, but exercise and taking dogs for walks is real important too and key

 
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Fujie says you can also help the pet become more comfortable with a newborn by doing the following:

  • Prepare the dog months before the baby is brought home,
  • Introduce your child slowly to your pet,
  • Keep the pet active and part of family activities, and
  • Make sure no jealousy is involved.




 
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It seems the good Dr forgot one thing.

 
Jesus, people still defend pit bulls. Where's the data? Maybe when 90%+ of every article or video most of us have ever seen involves a pit bull, especially the death ones, we start to feel like the breed is a problem. I am sure that lady at the top of the page thought her dogs were sweet too. She sure doesn't appear to be a felon living in the ghetto.

All I can say modogg is that I hope nothing ever happens, but it's beyond comprehension that any parent would take that risk. You mention this vicious Yorkie that your rottweiler just pushed away a few feet. That's called a nuisance. If your dog did the same to the Yorkie (or a baby), that's called death. I just wouldn't ever take that risk with a baby and I didn't with my 3 boys. Just one "snap" and a baby is gone. 

 
Lutherman2112 said:
It seems the good Dr forgot one thing.

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Yep, now just imagine that bag is a baby. Honey, the dog has the baby again, where'd you put my break stick? Hold on, there it is. Don't worry little Joey, I am just going to hook you to the wall so I can get a better grip on the dog and make him release your mangled body.

 
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