Yet another Pitt Bull attack (1 Viewer)

[Ron Swanson]

I am amazed at how many of these dogs are in shelters.  We've been looking for a new dog for the last couple weeks and have hit all the local shelters.  At least 90% of the dogs at each shelter are pit bulls or some variant.  Some seem OK.  Some seem completely unhinged.  No way would I adopt one.  My wife probably would in a moment of weakness so I am thankful that our insurance company won't allow us to have one, along with 11 other breeds.  

 

[eoMMan]

I am amazed at how many of these dogs are in shelters.  We've been looking for a new dog for the last couple weeks and have hit all the local shelters.  At least 90% of the dogs at each shelter are pit bulls or some variant.  Some seem OK.  Some seem completely unhinged.  No way would I adopt one.  My wife probably would in a moment of weakness so I am thankful that our insurance company won't allow us to have one, along with 11 other breeds.  

Kind of a chicken or egg scenario, No?

Many of those pits and pit mixes you see in the shelters were abused at some point and yeah, unfortunately, a lot of them are indeed "unhinged". They will never get the training or love they deserve. And from a strictly probability/math standpoint, it's not surprising that more attacks are from pits compared to other breeds when you see how the breed's numbers in shelters are dominating other breeds.

 

[eoMMan]

And to bb's point - many of these dogs are in the state of someone not knowing his/her behaviors at some point during their life.  They are dangerous - you can argue all you want but the repeated stories of these dogs attacking/mauling/killing isn't something that we are fabricating.  These are real people losing their life so people can have a pet.  I continue to applaud any community, city, state or other that ban the breed.

Never said they couldn't be dangerous. I said from day one that you need to spend extra time trading then compared to other breeds simply due to the power they have. Same can be said for Mastiffs, Rottweilers, etc etc.

Sorry, but once again, banning the breed isn't the answer.

 

[Ron Swanson]

Kind of a chicken or egg scenario, No?

Many of those pits and pit mixes you see in the shelters were abused at some point and yeah, unfortunately, a lot of them are indeed "unhinged". They will never get the training or love they deserve. And from a strictly probability/math standpoint, it's not surprising that more attacks are from pits compared to other breeds when you see how the breed's numbers in shelters are dominating other breeds.

Right.  I have a hard time wrapping my head around how their apparent breed dominance is possible.  These shelters are mostly "low-kill", but they do euthanize eventually.  Most home owner's insurance companies and many rentals don't allow them. So where are they going and how are their numbers so strong? Someone must be adopting them. Someone must be breeding them.  Why and how?

 

[AAABatteries]

Never said they couldn't be dangerous. I said from day one that you need to spend extra time trading then compared to other breeds simply due to the power they have. Same can be said for Mastiffs, Rottweilers, etc etc.

Sorry, but once again, banning the breed isn't the answer.

It may not be your answer but it is for me.  

 

[eoMMan]

It may not be your answer but it is for me.  

My answer aligns with the vast majority of the country, fwiw.

 

[DallasDMac]

My answer aligns with the vast majority of the country, fwiw.

I don't think popular opinion is much of a qualifier of good ideas these days. This country seems geared towards the lowest common denominator. How else do you explain the bachelor, the Kardashians, professional wrestling, etc and so on?

 

[steelerfan1]

Every dog is owned for five days at some point. That was the point I raised upthread in response to people who had owned a pit for many years and were confident that they weren’t a threat. At some point, however, they didn’t own their dog for many years. They owned the dog for just five days and had no idea about their propensity for violence. I myself wouldn’t want to bring that risk into my home, especially if I had kids. 

Hi BB,

For us, last year was the first year we took in a large dog. We've taken in a handful of Cockers over the years, but this was the first time for a pitbull that I didn't have since a pup.

We integrated him very slowly over a 3 week period getting a sense of him as well as letting him get a sense of us. We also brought him into the vets for vaccinations and blood panel, which of course revealed Heartworm. 

During the vet he underwent x-rays, injections, with the heartworm ones according to my vet being very painful. You here had a dog in a new home with people who he hadn't known long put into the scenario of getting poked and prodded by someone he'd never met in a place he'd never been. For me at least, this was a good test and a chance to look for any bad signs coming up. The vets reported no aggression of any sort from the treatment when he was away from me, as I had explained the situation to them. I witnessed no aggression with the treatment the vets did in my presence.

During our integration I witnessed no type of food aggression when I got close to him and he would let me remove the food from him.

For me, if any of those things had been different I would have had to reevaluate, but I doubt the dog would be with us.

Since that time we've worked on his obedience and socialization and feel we have a good stable dog.

The dog has been around our nieces a handful of times and displayed no issue, but never left alone with them, not because of it showing bad signs or being a pitbull, but it being a large powerful dog.

 

[steelerfan1]

A different take....my wife manages an injury claims unit for a Top 5 insurance carrier.  Her unit handles everything from horrible car accidents to dog bites.  She shows me photos and continually tells me that of all the dog bite claims her unit receives and investigates, 90% are pit bulls or have pit bull mix.  We consequently don’t allow our kids around them, no matter how well adjusted they seem to be.  Numbers don’t lie.

Hi steeler,

The problem I have with this is before the pit bull explosion in popularity, your wife would be reporting another type and before that another. Once people move on to the next big find the population once again decreases, the less responsible owners of said old thing now have the new thing.

I'm all for getting rid of viscous dogs, so let's find a way to make it such a pain in the butt that be it an old thing or the next big thing, people aren't going to want to do it.

 

[jabarony]

Never said they couldn't be dangerous. I said from day one that you need to spend extra time trading then compared to other breeds simply due to the power they have. Same can be said for Mastiffs, Rottweilers, etc etc.

Sorry, but once again, banning the breed isn't the answer.

Agreed. I'm thinking the same approach should be taken for tigers. I wish I could own one, and I think everyone should have that right.  They just need a little more training from responsible owners, like Siegfried.  Unfortunately,  they get a bad rap from bad owners, like Roy.

 

[cockroach]

Agreed. I'm thinking the same approach should be taken for tigers. I wish I could own one, and I think everyone should have that right.  They just need a little more training from responsible owners, like Siegfried.  Unfortunately,  they get a bad rap from bad owners, like Roy.

This is just silly hyperbole.  Those guys were professional trainers.  No regular guy would mess around like that.  I get that pits are popular now because ghetto dudes that wanted to look tough popularized it, but there's no circumstance where that would ever happen with a wild animal like a tiger in real life.

http://i.imgur.com/GwlK7Hv.jpg

 

[bigbottom]

Hi BB,

For us, last year was the first year we took in a large dog. We've taken in a handful of Cockers over the years, but this was the first time for a pitbull that I didn't have since a pup.

We integrated him very slowly over a 3 week period getting a sense of him as well as letting him get a sense of us. We also brought him into the vets for vaccinations and blood panel, which of course revealed Heartworm. 

During the vet he underwent x-rays, injections, with the heartworm ones according to my vet being very painful. You here had a dog in a new home with people who he hadn't known long put into the scenario of getting poked and prodded by someone he'd never met in a place he'd never been. For me at least, this was a good test and a chance to look for any bad signs coming up. The vets reported no aggression of any sort from the treatment when he was away from me, as I had explained the situation to them. I witnessed no aggression with the treatment the vets did in my presence.

During our integration I witnessed no type of food aggression when I got close to him and he would let me remove the food from him.

For me, if any of those things had been different I would have had to reevaluate, but I doubt the dog would be with us.

Since that time we've worked on his obedience and socialization and feel we have a good stable dog.

The dog has been around our nieces a handful of times and displayed no issue, but never left alone with them, not because of it showing bad signs or being a pitbull, but it being a large powerful dog.

I think this is a very thoughtful and deliberate approach, and it sounds like you are doing all you can to mitigate any dangers.  That said, your post indicates that there was a good period of time that you didn't know, weren't sure, about the propensity of your dog for violence.  It is that kind of risk that I just am not comfortable bringing into my home, though I acknowledge that others have varying degrees of risk tolerance and vigilance.  I guess my only comment to you is that you were looking for signs of aggression and would have reevaluated had you seen any, but what if that first sign of aggression was an actual attack?  It is hard to know how forthright the owners are being, but there have been multiple dog attack stories where the owners stated that the dog just snapped and had not shown any previous signs of aggression. 

 

[parasaurolophus]

I think this is a very thoughtful and deliberate approach, and it sounds like you are doing all you can to mitigate any dangers.  That said, your post indicates that there was a good period of time that you didn't know, weren't sure, about the propensity of your dog for violence.  It is that kind of risk that I just am not comfortable bringing into my home, though I acknowledge that others have varying degrees of risk tolerance and vigilance.  I guess my only comment to you is that you were looking for signs of aggression and would have reevaluated had you seen any, but what if that first sign of aggression was an actual attack?  It is hard to know how forthright the owners are being, but there have been multiple dog attack stories where the owners stated that the dog just snapped and had not shown any previous signs of aggression. 

This is the part I don't get. Dogs don't really have a standard return policy. So what happens if in that 3 week test drive trial period there was some aggression? 

 

[steelerfan1]

I think this is a very thoughtful and deliberate approach, and it sounds like you are doing all you can to mitigate any dangers.  That said, your post indicates that there was a good period of time that you didn't know, weren't sure, about the propensity of your dog for violence.  It is that kind of risk that I just am not comfortable bringing into my home, though I acknowledge that others have varying degrees of risk tolerance and vigilance.  I guess my only comment to you is that you were looking for signs of aggression and would have reevaluated had you seen any, but what if that first sign of aggression was an actual attack?  It is hard to know how forthright the owners are being, but there have been multiple dog attack stories where the owners stated that the dog just snapped and had not shown any previous signs of aggression. 

Yes, to a degree I'd agree with you. Our process did have a meet and greet so to speak with the old owner prior to us taking him on. It gave me a chance to see how the dog reacted around the owner and owners children. Was he timid, scared of owner, etc. When we decided to take him went to the vet the following day for the poking and prodding, so I got to get a quick read that I was comfortable with, but I agree, it was a small sample size and I guess I could have had a potentially dangerous animal on my hands.

If the dog showed signs of being sketchy with the owner it would have been a red flag . Most dogs have given warnings of aggression, be it a low growl, lip snarl, bark, etc. If they get reprimanded harshly enough when showing these things, that's when you get the animal that full out attacks instead. I didn't get a sense the dog was abused or scared of owner.

If I had children bud it may be a bit different and I totally understand and respect your views here.

 

[steelerfan1]

This is the part I don't get. Dogs don't really have a standard return policy. So what happens if in that 3 week test drive trial period there was some aggression? 

Hi para,

As a favor we took this dog from a friend's family member with the understanding that if the dog didn't fit in with our other dogs or was an aggressive animal they would be getting it back.

I'm not sure how most rescues work, but the one we were looking at offered a 30 day policy.

 

[DallasDMac]

Just watched the news about the poor lady who is missing half her left arm due to the neighbor's pit bull that attacked her while she was gardening. I guess the pit felt it was protecting the petunias. At least, in this case, the neighboring couple is facing charges.

 

[modogg]

i thought the anti-pitbull people won and all these dogs were euthanized since this thread hasn't been bumped in some time. My work computer defaults to bing, and i had a pitbull story pop up so i thought i would find it when i got home, and here are 3 that popped up first:

http://sweetbuffalo716.com/ruby-the-pit-bull-saves-local-couple-from-carbon-monoxide-poisoning/

http://www.animalnewsonline.com/2017/12/26/angel-stray-pit-bull-saves-woman-child-attacker/

http://dogtime.com/trending/30095-5-pit-bulls-saved-owners-lives

all these owners are obviously low class, and these dogs are obviously dangerous in all cases. 

in all seriousness, there were a bunch of reports about the carbon monoxide one so glad to see reporting that story. unfortunately never seen the other unless i specifically look for something

 

[Otis]

i thought the anti-pitbull people won and all these dogs were euthanized since this thread hasn't been bumped in some time. My work computer defaults to bing, and i had a pitbull story pop up so i thought i would find it when i got home, and here are 3 that popped up first:

http://sweetbuffalo716.com/ruby-the-pit-bull-saves-local-couple-from-carbon-monoxide-poisoning/

http://www.animalnewsonline.com/2017/12/26/angel-stray-pit-bull-saves-woman-child-attacker/

http://dogtime.com/trending/30095-5-pit-bulls-saved-owners-lives

all these owners are obviously low class, and these dogs are obviously dangerous in all cases. 

in all seriousness, there were a bunch of reports about the carbon monoxide one so glad to see reporting that story. unfortunately never seen the other unless i specifically look for something

The pit bulls are our guardian angels!!!  Let’s breed and adopt more of them!!

Put them in kindergarten classes! 

 

[parasaurolophus]

i thought the anti-pitbull people won and all these dogs were euthanized since this thread hasn't been bumped in some time. My work computer defaults to bing, and i had a pitbull story pop up so i thought i would find it when i got home, and here are 3 that popped up first:

http://sweetbuffalo716.com/ruby-the-pit-bull-saves-local-couple-from-carbon-monoxide-poisoning/

http://www.animalnewsonline.com/2017/12/26/angel-stray-pit-bull-saves-woman-child-attacker/

http://dogtime.com/trending/30095-5-pit-bulls-saved-owners-lives

all these owners are obviously low class, and these dogs are obviously dangerous in all cases. 

in all seriousness, there were a bunch of reports about the carbon monoxide one so glad to see reporting that story. unfortunately never seen the other unless i specifically look for something

Tell us your exact search terms that those are the first three stories that pop up. I call bs.

Its also funny that one of your links says right in the story you linked to that it is a fake story. good find!!!

The other one is from 2012.

Thanks for the laugh. 

 

[stbugs]

Tell us your exact search terms that those are the first three stories that pop up. I call bs.

Its also funny that one of your links says right in the story you linked to that it is a fake story. good find!!!

The other one is from 2012.

Thanks for the laugh. 

Lol. Nice. One site had a link to a different version of the first one. All of them seemed more like links you’d give anti-pit bull people but not actual real news. 

 

[Ron Swanson]

The pit bulls are our guardian angels!!!  Let’s breed and adopt more of them!!

Put them in kindergarten classes! 

Oof.  I've been looking for a new dog for weeks and all the local shelters have is Pits and Staffordshire Terriers.  These breeds are not for me but I really don't understand why they are so popular.  

 

[modogg]

Lol. Nice. One site had a link to a different version of the first one. All of them seemed more like links you’d give anti-pit bull people but not actual real news. 

well, sorry i don;t spend my evenings searching pit bull stories. Man, you anti-pit bull people are weird. i mean seriously, why the F do you guys care so much to hate a particular breed of dog??

lol, i was going to make an effort to find positive stories, then i remembered how useless it is to try and have any constructive conversation in here. didn't even check this link, but for some odd (quite odd i think) reason webmd was one of the top links for "postiive pit bull" searches. here enjoy:

https://pets.webmd.com/dogs/features/pit-bulls-safety#1

there you go, Teddy Roosevelt owned a pit bull, as well as Helen Keller. Please pick that apart for awhile

ETA: lol, ok so this is very accurate:  “Pit bulls are incredibly wimpy in many respects - they don’t like to go in the cold and rain,” Reid says. But when aroused or agitated, they may be less responsive to pain.  

 

[Otis]

Man, you anti-pit bull people are weird. i mean seriously, why the F do you guys care so much to hate a particular breed of dog??  

Because we find it upsetting when a three year old gets mauled to death by a stupid dangerous animal owned by some dope?

This isn’t one of those really deep and complex societal debates. 

 

[BigSteelThrill]

i thought

damn mo, you made your side look worse by posting that crap.  hard to do.

 

[stbugs]

well, sorry i don;t spend my evenings searching pit bull stories. Man, you anti-pit bull people are weird. i mean seriously, why the F do you guys care so much to hate a particular breed of dog??

lol, i was going to make an effort to find positive stories, then i remembered how useless it is to try and have any constructive conversation in here. didn't even check this link, but for some odd (quite odd i think) reason webmd was one of the top links for "postiive pit bull" searches. here enjoy:

https://pets.webmd.com/dogs/features/pit-bulls-safety#1

there you go, Teddy Roosevelt owned a pit bull, as well as Helen Keller. Please pick that apart for awhile

ETA: lol, ok so this is very accurate:  “Pit bulls are incredibly wimpy in many respects - they don’t like to go in the cold and rain,” Reid says. But when aroused or agitated, they may be less responsive to pain.  

Dude you posted BS articles that either didn’t ever happen or were years ago and repackaged to make pit bulls look better. You got caught or didn’t realize, neither of which is a good luck. @Otis summed our feelings up nicely.

Not really a LOL that a dog doesn’t like cold or rain but when agitated they’ll eat their owner who raised them from puppies on a walk or won’t respond to pain so that they’ll actually kill a little kid when other dogs will let go when hit.

It’s like you really hate pit bulls and are secretly trying to bash them. 

 

[modogg]

I posted about a dog saving a family, and you guys have to freak out. 

I finally figured out what this thread reminds me of. It’s the South Park episode where the town runs around screaming “They took our jobs!!” And it is the same frenzy over and over. I think it was called “Goobacks”

 

[parasaurolophus]

Still waiting for the exact search term that got those three articles to pop up as the first choices. 

 

[Chaka]

Because we find it upsetting when a three year old gets mauled to death by a stupid dangerous animal owned by some dope?

This isn’t one of those really deep and complex societal debates. 

To be fair I think it has more to do with the sensational (i.e. horrific) nature of those deaths rather than the number of deaths.

As has been mentioned multiple times in this thread, there are far more immediate threats to three year olds that we seem more than willing to gloss over, i feel, because they do not evoke such a visceral response.

 

[modogg]

Still waiting for the exact search term that got those three articles to pop up as the first choices. 

 i swear half of you guys are either on the spectrum or have an Axis I diagnosis. I don't remember. the last one might have been "pit bull positive", but unlike others i was looking for a specific story that was all around. i don't know, try "pit bull good news" or something, maybe you can move on after finding it then

This is how i know this is not a dialouge or debate. A dog saves a family, and right away the "You Took Our Jobs" folk run in here. 

Can we not celebrate a family is alive today thanks to a dog, which happened to be a pit bull? Unlike the anti-pit bull folks, i don;t assume all pit bulls are masters at smelling gas and can save every family. But this is a positive story. and immediately the response is 

 

[modogg]

To be fair I think it has more to do with the sensational (i.e. horrific) nature of those deaths rather than the number of deaths.

As has been mentioned multiple times in this thread, there are far more immediate threats to three year olds that we seem more than willing to gloss over, i feel, because they do not evoke such a visceral response.

yes. please let's move past this thread, we can discuss the ever evolving flu and the risks. or, and i won't assume this group is correlated with the anti-pit bull crowd, but dopey parents who don't vaccinate their kids because it will cause them to be autistic

 

[Chaka]

yes. please let's move past this thread, we can discuss the ever evolving flu and the risks. or, and i won't assume this group is correlated with the anti-pit bull crowd, but dopey parents who don't vaccinate their kids because it will cause them to be autistic

There are threads for those things too.

 

[parasaurolophus]

 i swear half of you guys are either on the spectrum or have an Axis I diagnosis. I don't remember. the last one might have been "pit bull positive", but unlike others i was looking for a specific story that was all around. i don't know, try "pit bull good news" or something, maybe you can move on after finding it then

This is how i know this is not a dialouge or debate. A dog saves a family, and right away the "You Took Our Jobs" folk run in here. 

Can we not celebrate a family is alive today thanks to a dog, which happened to be a pit bull? Unlike the anti-pit bull folks, i don;t assume all pit bulls are masters at smelling gas and can save every family. But this is a positive story. and immediately the response is 

All you had to say was you made it up. 

It is also comical that you say a site called dogsbite.org cant be used because it is biased, but then you link to a site that had a fake article. Its like telling somebody they cant use foxnews and have to trust the onion. 

 

[modogg]

All you had to say was you made it up. 

It is also comical that you say a site called dogsbite.org cant be used because it is biased, but then you link to a site that had a fake article. Its like telling somebody they cant use foxnews and have to trust the onion. 

Jesus H. you guys are dense:

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2018/01/20/dog-saves-li-woman/

this is where i originally saw it: http://people.com/pets/pit-bull-hero-dog-saves-owners-carbon-monoxide-poisoning/

and in all seriousness, please just trust the people in here that suggests dogsbite.org is really a horrible source. it has been pointed out countless times, i am saying this trying to help you.

you guys want a pit bull thread, but i guess no positive stories are allowed.

man you guys have me completely on board on this 

 

[parasaurolophus]

Whats really funny too about the story for Ruby the hero pitbull is that the story keeps changing. First it was in the basement. Now it was in the garage because their pipes burst out in the garage. 

https://www.google.com/amp/wivb.com/2018/01/20/lakeview-dog-saves-owners-from-carbon-monoxide-poisoning/amp/ 

This is the oldest version i can find from the local station. Watch the video in that story. The "propane heater" is actually a propane turkey fryer. They show it with the woman and dog standing right next to it in the basement. There is no way they were burning that thing as a heater in the basement or the garage. Also the woman says when she went downstairs she could smell the carbon monoxide once she got down there. Not the dog, her, she could smell it. 

You know, the odorless, gas carbon monoxide. Oh yeah. Odorless you say? Oh what i meant was i smelled the propane in the garage from the leaking tank, we were burning it, but it had stopped and the propane was leaking, yeah, thats what happened. 

Oh and the last line of the story is great. Ando is a pit bull advocate and wants the community to know there are misconceptions about the breed. 

 

[parasaurolophus]

Jesus H. you guys are dense:

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2018/01/20/dog-saves-li-woman/

this is where i originally saw it: http://people.com/pets/pit-bull-hero-dog-saves-owners-carbon-monoxide-poisoning/

and in all seriousness, please just trust the people in here that suggests dogsbite.org is really a horrible source. it has been pointed out countless times, i am saying this trying to help you.

you guys want a pit bull thread, but i guess no positive stories are allowed.

man you guys have me completely on board on this 

I didnt say you made up the story. I am saying you made up that you searched for something and the first three links that came up were the three links you posted. You made that up completely. 

Dense. Thats cute. 

 

[steelerfan1]

To be fair I think it has more to do with the sensational (i.e. horrific) nature of those deaths rather than the number of deaths.

As has been mentioned multiple times in this thread, there are far more immediate threats to three year olds that we seem more than willing to gloss over, i feel, because they do not evoke such a visceral response.

I'd go so far as to say that even if it was a different type of dog it would be glossed over.

 

[parasaurolophus]

I'd go so far as to say that even if it was a different type of dog it would be glossed over.

Would never be glossed over.

The emotions would be different though. Hearing about a golden retriever killing its owner and chewing on its ribs would certainly get noticed. It wouldnt spark the feeling though that it could have easily been avoided. Most people would probably think the golden had rabies like old yeller. 

 

[Chaka]

I'd go so far as to say that even if it was a different type of dog it would be glossed over.

You may be right I don't see too many stories about Rottweilers or Chows posted in here. Not sure about Presa Canario or Cane Corso, I don't recall any but there probably were and I don't remember because they are rare (because the breeds are so rare).

 

[modogg]

You may be right I don't see too many stories about Rottweilers or Chows posted in here. Not sure about Presa Canario or Cane Corso, I don't recall any but there probably were and I don't remember because they are rare (because the breeds are so rare).

The stats for Rottweilers l, and maybe chows too, were much worse up until 10-15 years ago. But like with most things, more dogs of a certain breed will lead to more incidents (or whatver) by that dog. 

 

[steelerfan1]

Would never be glossed over.

The emotions would be different though. Hearing about a golden retriever killing its owner and chewing on its ribs would certainly get noticed. It wouldnt spark the feeling though that it could have easily been avoided. Most people would probably think the golden had rabies like old yeller. 

Maybe glossed over isn't the correct wording para...

I think quickly dismissed is a better fit.

 

[steelerfan1]

You may be right I don't see too many stories about Rottweilers or Chows posted in here. Not sure about Presa Canario or Cane Corso, I don't recall any but there probably were and I don't remember because they are rare (because the breeds are so rare).

I've posted some Chaka, but somehow people don't hold it to the same standard, which confuses me.

 

[IC FBGCav]

I am on both sides and knowledgeable about dogs.  

This might sound harsh but I don't think Pits should be able to be adopted unless they are less than 9 weeks old.

I know pits that are zero threats.  It's just true.  My sister has on and her husband died.  Husband was the dogs everything.  Used to play with him a lot and just misses male attention.  When I visit he always gravitates to me.  I give him love, and every time he wants to play if I ignore him.  He will bite my hand so so soft, trying to get my attention.  It's like when you say nice when you give a dog a treat.  

I'm not sure that dog would even attack an intruder.

Having said that, if you don't know the history of a pit, better to just not go there.

 

[parasaurolophus]

Maybe glossed over isn't the correct wording para...

I think quickly dismissed is a better fit.

What would you like people to do? Its like saying that you cant believe people dont get more outraged when auto accidents happen in bad weather but they get so mad when they hear about a texting and driving accident. 

It is a silly comparison. Also if you havent noticed, this is the pit thread. 

I think you would be hard pressed to find people in this thread that dont have similar feelings about rottweilers, next in line for maulings and death count. After that is where you start to lose interest due to far less popularity or that even though dogs like a german shepherd show up a lot on the stat sheet, they have plenty of positive contributions as work dogs. 

Pits were bred for something that was awful and evil. Even rottweilers werent originally bred for something awful.

 

[parasaurolophus]

Poor Yorkie

Not sure if this one was brought up in here. 

Her father was unable to separate the dog from the child, police said. He grabbed a pistol but when he realized it was unloaded he picked up a knife and stabbed the pit bull.  Police said the dog was fatally wounded by the owner.

What about this one? Don't remember reading about a scalping. 

 

[steelerfan1]

What would you like people to do? Its like saying that you cant believe people dont get more outraged when auto accidents happen in bad weather but they get so mad when they hear about a texting and driving accident. 

It is a silly comparison. Also if you havent noticed, this is the pit thread. 

I think you would be hard pressed to find people in this thread that dont have similar feelings about rottweilers, next in line for maulings and death count. After that is where you start to lose interest due to far less popularity or that even though dogs like a german shepherd show up a lot on the stat sheet, they have plenty of positive contributions as work dogs. 

Pits were bred for something that was awful and evil. Even rottweilers werent originally bred for something awful.

I guess ideally what I would like people to do is have their dog spay/neutered, have it live inside the residence and have their property outside properly contained when the animal is out. I'd also like them to have the animal be on a leash when off the premise. It wouldn't hurt if the dog could have some basic training, socialization and maybe be treated like a pet instead of a piece of property. If they aren't ready to commit to the above for the next 10 to 15 years, I'd like them to pass. 

I'd liken the comparison more to 2 drunk driving fatalities, 1 involving Tequila and the other Wine. People go crazy over the Tequila incident and when they see the Wine incident they simply acknowledge that that will happen from time to time. 

I'm assuming you're referring to them being bred for bull baiting and dog fighting?

If so, and since we aren't dealing with things on an individual basis, at least here anyway, we'll  need to include the Boxer, most Mastiffs, English Bulldog and Sharpei to the to get rid of list. At least for a starting point.

 

[Otis]

Poor Yorkie

Not sure if this one was brought up in here. 

What about this one? Don't remember reading about a scalping. 

Freaking disgusting animals. 

And the dogs are pretty awful too. 

 

[Otis]

We up to like several a week now?  Nice. 

 

[stbugs]

Poor Yorkie

Not sure if this one was brought up in here. 

What about this one? Don't remember reading about a scalping. 

You are doing this wrong, you are not supposed to link actual news channel sites. Also, you missed one of the best nuggets in the second one. ####### shame people get lulled into a feeling of safety.

The family has owned the pit bull for five years and it has no known history of violence or aggression, according to a preliminary police investigation.

The attack appeared to be unprovoked, but authorities are investigating.

Pit bull: Hmm, look a 1 year old. Might as well bite her face and not let go until I get stabbed to death.

Great dog, wouldn't hurt a fly. Mine is as gentle as a little kitten.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Freaking disgusting animals. 

And the dogs are pretty awful too. 

exactly. 

incredibly selfish people.

 

[bigbottom]

You are doing this wrong, you are not supposed to link actual news channel sites. Also, you missed one of the best nuggets in the second one. ####### shame people get lulled into a feeling of safety.

Pit bull: Hmm, look a 1 year old. Might as well bite her face and not let go until I get stabbed to death.

Great dog, wouldn't hurt a fly. Mine is as gentle as a little kitten.

Yep.

1)  I've owned my pit for years.

2)  It has never shown any aggression or violence.

3)  I never leave my child unattended with my pit.

Each of these common refrains also apply in this case where a one-year-old little girl is now fighting for her life.