Your attitudes toward gays and gay rights (3 Viewers)

[LinusMarr]

Sandra Bernhard has represented the ugly bull type lesbians very well on several different tv shows.

Yes, she has...

So they aren't all supermodels then.........are you bi polar?

Yes, there are exceptions....imagine that...

 

[LinusMarr]

I've got TPS reports to get out and no time for obfuscations. What's the end game here, Peenies? Big media plot to get America to soften up, drop its guard and get overrun by godless brown people and actors who don't even like our brand of football? You're really crappy at message boarding, weaving clumsily around what you really want to say and when you finally do, it's something really dumb.

Step it up a little.

Well, im out of practice. Cut me some slack lmao. Your post made me laugh, thanks man

 

[Scoresman]

Im just here for the throatcramming.

And the gay insults you keep throwing around. The same guy that's supposedly for gay rights.

The thing is, "gay" isn't an insult.

The only point of anyone calling someone 'gay' on this thread is as an insult. It is being used in a derogatory manner the exact same way people use the five letter f-word.

French?

How dare you insult gay people by equating them with the French.

 

[tonydead]

They dont potray them to be very angry if you dont see the world according them i can tell you that much. You dont see the ugly, angry lesbian dyke looking chick with baggy pants. Oh no, they are always smoking hot models! Obviously just llike in real life dont ya know...

Yes, there are exceptions....imagine that...

It's not called the "aha gotcha" game, it's called debate. You are supposed to pick a position and justify that position. Maybe your initial position was poor, would you like to rephrase?

 

[mad sweeney]

Im just here for the throatcramming.

And the gay insults you keep throwing around. The same guy that's supposedly for gay rights.

The thing is, "gay" isn't an insult.

The only point of anyone calling someone 'gay' on this thread is as an insult. It is being used in a derogatory manner the exact same way people use the five letter f-word.

Wrong_mx strikes again!

 

[LinusMarr]

They dont potray them to be very angry if you dont see the world according them i can tell you that much. You dont see the ugly, angry lesbian dyke looking chick with baggy pants. Oh no, they are always smoking hot models! Obviously just llike in real life dont ya know...

Yes, there are exceptions....imagine that...

It's not called the "aha gotcha" game, it's called debate. You are supposed to pick a position and justify that position. Maybe your initial position was poor, would you like to rephrase?

No, i dont think i would like to rephrase. Sandra bernhard or whatever her name is certainly isnt a smoking hot lesbian. But she isnt the bull dyke lesbian either. I cant believe this is what you want to nit pick? good grief....

Just look for a spelling error or something and call it a day....

 

[mad sweeney]

the funny thing is that the people who throw words like dyke and baggy pants chicks and stuff like that who are trying to paint some people as ugly because of how they are wired or how they look is that there is no one uglier than the people throwing around those words funny how that works brohans take that to the bank

Uh nooooo. Im actually describing how they dress and how they look. They normally have a bunch of tatts and possibly a bone through the nose as well. Jus sayin.....

You're doing a swell job of dispelling the idea that you're an idiot bigot.

 

[mad sweeney]

No, I am just suprised that large portion of the gay community isnt outraged that they arent being potrayed on tv is all lma

Apparently it doesn't bother them as much as it bothers you.

Actually it doesnt bother me either. I just observed that i rarely will see that on tv. Unless its on A and E's intervention....

So what does bother you? I'm trying to understand the basis for your complaint that networks are cramming the gay down your throat. Is it really nothing more than a perceived overrepresentation on the line of a few percentage points on a couple shows you watch?

What bothers me is how they have to be present on certain shows. Its like the show couldnt air without hitting that gay quota. I think with that and the story lines with shows like Greys anatomy its like they are training to push some kind of agenda down my throat. This is obviously my opinion and i certainly dont expect others to agree. Its just my observation...

Certain shows like ones about dancing and singing? That's like getting mad that watching True Blood is unfulfilling because they keep shoving vampires down your throat

 

[LinusMarr]

the funny thing is that the people who throw words like dyke and baggy pants chicks and stuff like that who are trying to paint some people as ugly because of how they are wired or how they look is that there is no one uglier than the people throwing around those words funny how that works brohans take that to the bank

Uh nooooo. Im actually describing how they dress and how they look. They normally have a bunch of tatts and possibly a bone through the nose as well. Jus sayin.....

You're doing a swell job of dispelling the idea that you're an idiot bigot.

Awwww seeeee you just hurt my feelings now, dammit

 

[LinusMarr]

No, I am just suprised that large portion of the gay community isnt outraged that they arent being potrayed on tv is all lma

Apparently it doesn't bother them as much as it bothers you.

Actually it doesnt bother me either. I just observed that i rarely will see that on tv. Unless its on A and E's intervention....

So what does bother you? I'm trying to understand the basis for your complaint that networks are cramming the gay down your throat. Is it really nothing more than a perceived overrepresentation on the line of a few percentage points on a couple shows you watch?

What bothers me is how they have to be present on certain shows. Its like the show couldnt air without hitting that gay quota. I think with that and the story lines with shows like Greys anatomy its like they are training to push some kind of agenda down my throat. This is obviously my opinion and i certainly dont expect others to agree. Its just my observation...

Certain shows like ones about dancing and singing? That's like getting mad that watching True Blood is unfulfilling because they keep shoving vampires down your throat

Not much singing going on with Big brother, survivor or greys anatomy. Well except for that one really weird episode...

 

[tonydead]

They dont potray them to be very angry if you dont see the world according them i can tell you that much. You dont see the ugly, angry lesbian dyke looking chick with baggy pants. Oh no, they are always smoking hot models! Obviously just llike in real life dont ya know...

Yes, there are exceptions....imagine that...

It's not called the "aha gotcha" game, it's called debate. You are supposed to pick a position and justify that position. Maybe your initial position was poor, would you like to rephrase?

No, i dont think i would like to rephrase. Sandra bernhard or whatever her name is certainly isnt a smoking hot lesbian. But she isnt the bull dyke lesbian either. I cant believe this is what you want to nit pick? good grief....

Just look for a spelling error or something and call it a day....

Seriously? Exhibit 1

And remember your original position (you've changed it several time since) include that they were all hot smoking models.

Your ETA and spelling wont bother me.

 

[LinusMarr]

They dont potray them to be very angry if you dont see the world according them i can tell you that much. You dont see the ugly, angry lesbian dyke looking chick with baggy pants. Oh no, they are always smoking hot models! Obviously just llike in real life dont ya know...

Yes, there are exceptions....imagine that...

It's not called the "aha gotcha" game, it's called debate. You are supposed to pick a position and justify that position. Maybe your initial position was poor, would you like to rephrase?

No, i dont think i would like to rephrase. Sandra bernhard or whatever her name is certainly isnt a smoking hot lesbian. But she isnt the bull dyke lesbian either. I cant believe this is what you want to nit pick? good grief....

Just look for a spelling error or something and call it a day....

Seriously? Exhibit 1

And remember your original position (you've changed it several time since) include that they were all hot smoking models.

Your ETA and spelling wont bother me.

If i wasnt at work i would post some of the bull dykes that i am talking about. Sandra isnt it....

 

[mad sweeney]

No, I am just suprised that large portion of the gay community isnt outraged that they arent being potrayed on tv is all lma

Apparently it doesn't bother them as much as it bothers you.

Actually it doesnt bother me either. I just observed that i rarely will see that on tv. Unless its on A and E's intervention....

So what does bother you? I'm trying to understand the basis for your complaint that networks are cramming the gay down your throat. Is it really nothing more than a perceived overrepresentation on the line of a few percentage points on a couple shows you watch?

What bothers me is how they have to be present on certain shows. Its like the show couldnt air without hitting that gay quota. I think with that and the story lines with shows like Greys anatomy its like they are training to push some kind of agenda down my throat. This is obviously my opinion and i certainly dont expect others to agree. Its just my observation...

Certain shows like ones about dancing and singing? That's like getting mad that watching True Blood is unfulfilling because they keep shoving vampires down your throat

Not much singing going on with Big brother, survivor or greys anatomy. Well except for that one really weird episode...

Are two of those shows the ones that had several seasons without gay characters? Or are they ones that had a proportion reflective of actual population percentages?

 

[bigbottom]

So you're simultaneously complaining about there being too many gay people on tv and about there being too few bull dykes on tv?

 

[Henry Ford]

Im just here for the throatcramming.

And the gay insults you keep throwing around. The same guy that's supposedly for gay rights.

The thing is, "gay" isn't an insult.

Sure, you're right that the word in and of itself isn't, but it is being used that way (negatively) when others don't subscribe to the same views. It is being used as an insult by calling someone out as "gay" when you know they are not - you're doing it on purpose.

Not you specifically, though, but by other "tolerant" (sarcasm) progressives.

No, it's seriously never an insult. It's like calling someone a brunette. If you were blonde and someone called you a brunette, would you be upset? Even if they knew you were blonde?

I think it's disingenuous to say that the people in this thread aren't intending it as an insult. In fact, your analogy is kind of instructive. My wife is a brunette who dyes her hair blonde. If someone were to say to her, "you're a brunette," I think it would be meant as an insult. They'd be remarking that she was hiding something.

Sure, they'd be needling her about something they don't think is an insulting quality to have which she may find offensive.

"Brunette" isn't an insult. The implication that she ridiculously finds being a brunette to be inferior is.

Similarly, "gay" isn't an insult. The implication that he ridiculously finds being gay to be inferior is.

 

[mad sweeney]

They dont potray them to be very angry if you dont see the world according them i can tell you that much. You dont see the ugly, angry lesbian dyke looking chick with baggy pants. Oh no, they are always smoking hot models! Obviously just llike in real life dont ya know...

Yes, there are exceptions....imagine that...

It's not called the "aha gotcha" game, it's called debate. You are supposed to pick a position and justify that position. Maybe your initial position was poor, would you like to rephrase?

No, i dont think i would like to rephrase. Sandra bernhard or whatever her name is certainly isnt a smoking hot lesbian. But she isnt the bull dyke lesbian either. I cant believe this is what you want to nit pick? good grief....Just look for a spelling error or something and call it a day....

Seriously? Exhibit 1And remember your original position (you've changed it several time since) include that they were all hot smoking models.

Your ETA and spelling wont bother me.

If i wasnt at work i would post some of the bull dykes that i am talking about. Sandra isnt it....

You realize that all gays are different, right? You get mad that Christians are portrayed poorly but you want to stereotype gays' appearance?

 

[tonydead]

They dont potray them to be very angry if you dont see the world according them i can tell you that much. You dont see the ugly, angry lesbian dyke looking chick with baggy pants. Oh no, they are always smoking hot models! Obviously just llike in real life dont ya know...

Yes, there are exceptions....imagine that...

It's not called the "aha gotcha" game, it's called debate. You are supposed to pick a position and justify that position. Maybe your initial position was poor, would you like to rephrase?

No, i dont think i would like to rephrase. Sandra bernhard or whatever her name is certainly isnt a smoking hot lesbian. But she isnt the bull dyke lesbian either. I cant believe this is what you want to nit pick? good grief....

Just look for a spelling error or something and call it a day....

Seriously? Exhibit 1

And remember your original position (you've changed it several time since) include that they were all hot smoking models.

Your ETA and spelling wont bother me.

If i wasnt at work i would post some of the bull dykes that i am talking about. Sandra isnt it....

Exhibit 2 Bone through the nose and she's uglier, more bull dyke, than anyone you're going to come up with. Most definitely not super model, am I right?

 

[LinusMarr]

So you're simultaneously complaining about there being too many gay people on tv and about there being too few bull dykes on tv?

Its a misrepresentation is all. Not really a complaint, more of an observation.

 

[joffer]

This is gold

 

[TobiasFunke]

So you're simultaneously complaining about there being too many gay people on tv and about there being too few bull dykes on tv?

Its a misrepresentation is all. Not really a complain, more of an observation.

TV doesn't claim to be "representing" anything, so there's nothing to misrepresent. They're trying to give us good looking, interesting or funny people to amuse us, regardless of their sexual preference. Why does that bother you so much, and why does it only bother you so much when its a lesbian?

 

[LinusMarr]

They dont potray them to be very angry if you dont see the world according them i can tell you that much. You dont see the ugly, angry lesbian dyke looking chick with baggy pants. Oh no, they are always smoking hot models! Obviously just llike in real life dont ya know...

Yes, there are exceptions....imagine that...

It's not called the "aha gotcha" game, it's called debate. You are supposed to pick a position and justify that position. Maybe your initial position was poor, would you like to rephrase?

No, i dont think i would like to rephrase. Sandra bernhard or whatever her name is certainly isnt a smoking hot lesbian. But she isnt the bull dyke lesbian either. I cant believe this is what you want to nit pick? good grief....

Just look for a spelling error or something and call it a day....

Seriously? Exhibit 1

And remember your original position (you've changed it several time since) include that they were all hot smoking models.

Your ETA and spelling wont bother me.

If i wasnt at work i would post some of the bull dykes that i am talking about. Sandra isnt it....

Exhibit 2 Bone through the nose and she's uglier, more bull dyke, than anyone you're going to come up with. Most definitely not super model, am I right?

I can top that lol. Im not disputing her unattractiveness. Just not the bad haircut, dirty looking, tatto having, baggy clothes wearing, ugly, chubby guy wannabe chicks....

 

[LinusMarr]

They dont potray them to be very angry if you dont see the world according them i can tell you that much. You dont see the ugly, angry lesbian dyke looking chick with baggy pants. Oh no, they are always smoking hot models! Obviously just llike in real life dont ya know...

Yes, there are exceptions....imagine that...

It's not called the "aha gotcha" game, it's called debate. You are supposed to pick a position and justify that position. Maybe your initial position was poor, would you like to rephrase?

No, i dont think i would like to rephrase. Sandra bernhard or whatever her name is certainly isnt a smoking hot lesbian. But she isnt the bull dyke lesbian either. I cant believe this is what you want to nit pick? good grief....Just look for a spelling error or something and call it a day....

Seriously? Exhibit 1And remember your original position (you've changed it several time since) include that they were all hot smoking models.

Your ETA and spelling wont bother me.

If i wasnt at work i would post some of the bull dykes that i am talking about. Sandra isnt it....

You realize that all gays are different, right? You get mad that Christians are portrayed poorly but you want to stereotype gays' appearance?

Yes, i do realize this...

 

[mad sweeney]

So you're simultaneously complaining about there being too many gay people on tv and about there being too few bull dykes on tv?

Its a misrepresentation is all. Not really a complain, more of an observation.

TV doesn't claim to be "representing" anything, so there's nothing to misrepresent. They're trying to give us good looking, interesting or funny people to amuse us, regardless of their sexual preference. Why does that bother you so much?

He's just mad that conservatives are routinely misrepresented by people with too many teeth.

 

[LinusMarr]

So you're simultaneously complaining about there being too many gay people on tv and about there being too few bull dykes on tv?

Its a misrepresentation is all. Not really a complain, more of an observation.

TV doesn't claim to be "representing" anything, so there's nothing to misrepresent. They're trying to give us good looking, interesting or funny people to amuse us, regardless of their sexual preference. Why does that bother you so much?

He's just mad that conservatives are routinely misrepresented by people with too many teeth.

Or that liberals have a long, braided ponytail with dirty toes from wearing those ridiculous sandals all the time. Blah...

 

[LinusMarr]

I've had gay and lesbian friends and mentors my whole life, which is actually (admittedly) strange for someone in the "born before AIDS was discovered" bracket.

Always been an ally.

Wow you win the "Politically Correct" award for the day, congrats...

 

[jon_mx]

I've had gay and lesbian friends and mentors my whole life, which is actually (admittedly) strange for someone in the "born before AIDS was discovered" bracket.

Always been an ally.

Wow you win the "Politically Correct" award for the day, congrats...

Yeah, but does he ever play chess with them?

 

[Henry Ford]

I've had gay and lesbian friends and mentors my whole life, which is actually (admittedly) strange for someone in the "born before AIDS was discovered" bracket.

Always been an ally.

Wow you win the "Politically Correct" award for the day, congrats...

Why does that win me the Politically Correct award? Because I grew up around a lot of gays and lesbians? Shouldn't my parents get that award?

 

[Henry Ford]

I've had gay and lesbian friends and mentors my whole life, which is actually (admittedly) strange for someone in the "born before AIDS was discovered" bracket.

Always been an ally.

Wow you win the "Politically Correct" award for the day, congrats...

Yeah, but does he ever play chess with them?

No way. They all know how to really work the queen.

 

[LinusMarr]

I've had gay and lesbian friends and mentors my whole life, which is actually (admittedly) strange for someone in the "born before AIDS was discovered" bracket.

Always been an ally.

Wow you win the "Politically Correct" award for the day, congrats...

Why does that win me the Politically Correct award? Because I grew up around a lot of gays and lesbians? Shouldn't my parents get that award?

Hopefully dad showed you how to braid your pony tail properly, if not im sure sweeney and todd could help. Just shoot them a PM

 

[Henry Ford]

I've had gay and lesbian friends and mentors my whole life, which is actually (admittedly) strange for someone in the "born before AIDS was discovered" bracket.

Always been an ally.

Wow you win the "Politically Correct" award for the day, congrats...

Why does that win me the Politically Correct award? Because I grew up around a lot of gays and lesbians? Shouldn't my parents get that award?

Hopefully dad showed you how to braid your pony tail properly, if not im sure sweeney and todd could help. Just shoot them a PM

Nah. He's been bald for most of his life. He can braid his ear hair, though.

 

[Henry Ford]

Im just here for the throatcramming.

And the gay insults you keep throwing around. The same guy that's supposedly for gay rights.

The thing is, "gay" isn't an insult.

The only point of anyone calling someone 'gay' on this thread is as an insult. It is being used in a derogatory manner the exact same way people use the five letter f-word.

I'm wracking my brain trying to come up with a five letter f-word. French?

Do you mean six letter?

 

[Henry Ford]

They dont potray them to be very angry if you dont see the world according them i can tell you that much. You dont see the ugly, angry lesbian dyke looking chick with baggy pants. Oh no, they are always smoking hot models! Obviously just llike in real life dont ya know...

Jane Lynch and Ellen DeGeneres, the two most popular lesbians on all of TV are smoking hot models? You need to get your eyes checked.

Umm... Rosie O'Donnell anyone?

 

[Zow]

Im just here for the throatcramming.

And the gay insults you keep throwing around. The same guy that's supposedly for gay rights.

The thing is, "gay" isn't an insult.

The only point of anyone calling someone 'gay' on this thread is as an insult. It is being used in a derogatory manner the exact same way people use the five letter f-word.

I'm wracking my brain trying to come up with a five letter f-word. French?

Do you mean six letter?

I think that double consonant thing gets him every time.

 

[jon_mx]

Im just here for the throatcramming.

And the gay insults you keep throwing around. The same guy that's supposedly for gay rights.

The thing is, "gay" isn't an insult.

The only point of anyone calling someone 'gay' on this thread is as an insult. It is being used in a derogatory manner the exact same way people use the five letter f-word.

I'm wracking my brain trying to come up with a five letter f-word. French?

Do you mean six letter?

I think that double consonant thing gets him every time.

I was only counting unique letters....

 

[Zow]

Im just here for the throatcramming.

And the gay insults you keep throwing around. The same guy that's supposedly for gay rights.

The thing is, "gay" isn't an insult.

The only point of anyone calling someone 'gay' on this thread is as an insult. It is being used in a derogatory manner the exact same way people use the five letter f-word.

I'm wracking my brain trying to come up with a five letter f-word. French?

Do you mean six letter?

I think that double consonant thing gets him every time.

I was only counting unique letters....

blouses

 

[mad sweeney]

Im just here for the throatcramming.

And the gay insults you keep throwing around. The same guy that's supposedly for gay rights.

The thing is, "gay" isn't an insult.

The only point of anyone calling someone 'gay' on this thread is as an insult. It is being used in a derogatory manner the exact same way people use the five letter f-word.

I'm wracking my brain trying to come up with a five letter f-word. French?

Do you mean six letter?

I think that double consonant thing gets him every time.

I was only counting unique letters....

 

[Henry Ford]

Im just here for the throatcramming.

And the gay insults you keep throwing around. The same guy that's supposedly for gay rights.

The thing is, "gay" isn't an insult.

The only point of anyone calling someone 'gay' on this thread is as an insult. It is being used in a derogatory manner the exact same way people use the five letter f-word.

I'm wracking my brain trying to come up with a five letter f-word. French?

Do you mean six letter?

I think that double consonant thing gets him every time.

I was only counting unique letters....

Fleecers?

 

[jon_mx]

Im just here for the throatcramming.

And the gay insults you keep throwing around. The same guy that's supposedly for gay rights.

The thing is, "gay" isn't an insult.

The only point of anyone calling someone 'gay' on this thread is as an insult. It is being used in a derogatory manner the exact same way people use the five letter f-word.

I'm wracking my brain trying to come up with a five letter f-word. French?

Do you mean six letter?

I think that double consonant thing gets him every time.

I was only counting unique letters....

blouses

that is a b-word....the correct response was fruit.

 

[Statorama]

I don't know about television, but it does seem like there's an awful lot of homosexuality in movies these days. Just this last weekend, I sat down to watch Firehouse Frolics XVII and the homosexuality was just right there in my face the whole time.

Reminds me of that one time I tried to rent that Will Smith / Tommy Lee Jones movie and accidentally rented Men In Black Men

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Yeah, I accidentally rented that movie 12 times.

 

[fatness]

What bothers me is how they have to be present on certain shows. Its like the show couldnt air without hitting that gay quota. I think with that and the story lines with shows like Greys anatomy its like they are training to push some kind of agenda down my throat. This is obviously my opinion and i certainly dont expect others to agree. Its just my observation...

What bothers you is that they're present in everyday life, and you want your TV to make that go away or to make them appear like ugly bull-dykes.

Welcome to the Mind of Peens, readers.

 

[Zow]

Peeeeeeeeeeens