Good topic. My 2 cents:Talk of them being 1A and 1B
Talk of each catching 50 passes
What's your take on the value/outlook of each compared to the other?
Where do you have them each ranked at RB?
Thoughts on drafting both in right rounds - and thoughts on starting both (1RB/1Flex)
Thanks
I did something crazy and drafted them both last night, and am actually pretty excited about it. Jones mid 2nd, Dillon mid 4th. (Also went Chase+Higgins rounds 1 and 3... LOL will be a fun one)
Have we EVER seen 2 rbs from the same team going in the first 5 rounds of fantasy?
I mean of course it depends on your settings... is it standard or PPR and who is your other RB?I did the same with Jones in 2nd about at his ADP
Dillon in 5th was great value I couldn't pass on
But I am a little wary on it. Had both in the lineup but swapped Dillon out for Bateman
Wasn't Kamara drafted in 2017?Not sure about that but in 2011 Kamara and Ingram finished top 10 at RB while both with Saints
Think you meant 2017, but I stand corrected, looking at 2018 and 2019 ADP, both years Ingram was still being taken round 4/5 (Kamara round 1)Not sure about that but in 2011 Kamara and Ingram finished top 10 at RB while both with Saints
He is, yes. But with the absolute **** show at WR in GB this year, they could potentially just make Jones a pseudo receiver which would mean a more traditional RB role for Dillon.They had similar stats for "and one" and "inside the 5 TD rate."
Jones was 7/9 (78%) and 4/8 (50%).
Dillon was 10/11 (91%) and 4/11 (36%).
Dillon is underrated as a receiver.
I passed on AJones for this reason and grabbed Dillon 9 picks later, he's got a must draft vibe around him for me right now...
Agree with this. The last time we saw the Packers in a game that mattered, Rodgers only trusted two guys to make plays in the passing game - Jones and Adams. Lazard has never been reliable and isn’t practicing again today actually. Think they’ll use Jones however they need to. He’ll catch a ton of passes this year. I don’t see any downside to him. Dillon usage will also be high.He is, yes. But with the absolute **** show at WR in GB this year, they could potentially just make Jones a pseudo receiver which would mean a more traditional RB role for Dillon.They had similar stats for "and one" and "inside the 5 TD rate."
Jones was 7/9 (78%) and 4/8 (50%).
Dillon was 10/11 (91%) and 4/11 (36%).
Dillon is underrated as a receiver.
I don't understand this.Both being overdrafted, in particular Dillon.
I think Dillon is getting close to that but still a value. Jones I think is in a sweet spot for PPR at the end of the second and early 3rd so good value there. If he crept up to the end of round 1 then I would say overdrafted.Both being overdrafted, in particular Dillon.
Ya I've seen Jones between picks 15-20 in all my drafts. Pretty consistant.I think Dillon is getting close to that but still a value. Jones I think is in a sweet spot for PPR at the end of the second and early 3rd so good value there. If he crept up to the end of round 1 then I would say overdrafted.
Think you meant 2017, but I stand corrected, looking at 2018 and 2019 ADP, both years Ingram was still being taken round 4/5 (Kamara round 1)Not sure about that but in 2011 Kamara and Ingram finished top 10 at RB while both with Saints
I'm hoping this is the way GB goes. Get Jones out in space and Dillon in the backfield. But also throw it deep 4 times for TD's to Christian Watson...after I pick him up.He is, yes. But with the absolute **** show at WR in GB this year, they could potentially just make Jones a pseudo receiver which would mean a more traditional RB role for Dillon.They had similar stats for "and one" and "inside the 5 TD rate."
Jones was 7/9 (78%) and 4/8 (50%).
Dillon was 10/11 (91%) and 4/11 (36%).
Dillon is underrated as a receiver.
I passed on AJones for this reason and grabbed Dillon 9 picks later
Looks like Neither. He meant 9 RBS later. Weird way to say it.9 picks or 9 rounds?
Agreed. That could be 9 picks or 9 rounds. It may fit both..hahahaLooks like Neither. He meant 9 RBS later. Weird way to say it.
yeah my bad, sorry each league lineup is diff was trying to say it was AJones was RB12 selected vs Dillon's rb21Agreed. That could be 9 picks or 9 rounds. It may fit both..hahahaLooks like Neither. He meant 9 RBS later. Weird way to say it.
I think Dillon is getting close to that but still a value. Jones I think is in a sweet spot for PPR at the end of the second and early 3rd so good value there. If he crept up to the end of round 1 then I would say overdrafted.Both being overdrafted, in particular Dillon.
A big enough pie can feed more than one. The GB running game figures to be a big pie.I think one of them needs to be injured for the other one to be really a factor. Do we really want to start on a weekly basis either one of them knowing their share 50/50 the backfield in most weeks and on any given week, one of them can get more touches than the other? it's too much of a gamble for me as long as they are both healthy. Now, if one get injured, the remaining one is an automatic must start.
Last year they finished as an RB1 (RB7) and as an RB2 (RB20) and they both played together every game except 1.I think one of them needs to be injured for the other one to be really a factor. Do we really want to start on a weekly basis either one of them knowing their share 50/50 the backfield in most weeks and on any given week, one of them can get more touches than the other? it's too much of a gamble for me as long as they are both healthy. Now, if one get injured, the remaining one is an automatic must start.
I disagree with this. I think they both can be a factor even if they are both healthy. Look at last year. They both were a factor and played all but I think 1 week together. I see GB relying even more on them with no Adams as these are their two best playmakers. I think their floors are high with the upside of top 5 if there is an injury.I think one of them needs to be injured for the other one to be really a factor. Do we really want to start on a weekly basis either one of them knowing their share 50/50 the backfield in most weeks and on any given week, one of them can get more touches than the other? it's too much of a gamble for me as long as they are both healthy. Now, if one get injured, the remaining one is an automatic must start.
I think they were both being drafted at either their mid point or lesser (Dillon is moving up too much to be a great value). I think there is room from them to return value at their current ADP's even without an injury. The injury part just gives a path to even more value. I like both even without an injury.It feels like both are being drafted at their ceiling and the timeshare is a huge part of that. You win fantasy leagues typically by not drafting players at their ceiling. In the early rounds I'm not a proponent of the argument "if the other guys gets injured then he'll be huge" mentality...it's extremely lazy IMHO.
Think you meant 2017, but I stand corrected, looking at 2018 and 2019 ADP, both years Ingram was still being taken round 4/5 (Kamara round 1)Not sure about that but in 2011 Kamara and Ingram finished top 10 at RB while both with Saints
RIght I should have said since 2011they were the only pair to do it - but how many teams have had the 2 deep RB quality to make it work?
half ppr league for me
I did the same in round 4 where Jones went early round 2. He starts in my Flex in week 1. Let's Go! I like him.I passed on AJones for this reason and grabbed Dillon 9 picks later, he's got a must draft vibe around him for me right now...
My first thought was Ingram and Kamara 2018 and sure enough in one of my drafts Kamara went in the 1st and Ingram in the 5th.Have we EVER seen 2 rbs from the same team going in the first 5 rounds of fantasy?
I think Jones is in for a monster year and is going to deliver in PPR leagues. Dillon will do fine but Jones should see many more touches.Dillon is Ingram, Jones is Kamara. Prefer Jones in every format since targets are crazy more valuable than runs. Dillon is best used to punish defenders- Jones is best used in space. Hopefully LaFleur sees that .
Maybe during the Jonathan Stewart/DeAngelo Williams years. Where's Hunt going because Chubb/Hunt may also be an answer.Have we EVER seen 2 rbs from the same team going in the first 5 rounds of fantasy?