You're Told a Bottle of Wine Costs "Thirty-Seven-Fifty"... (1 Viewer)

[jonessed]

I would have never paid it. If you are quoting me a food or drink item that costs over one thousand dollars you better you use the word "thousand" in there somewhere.

This. There is zero chance that I would pay for this. The restaurant should consider itself lucky if I pay for the food.

What would you do instead? Get the police involved? No way you are walking out of a casino owing them $4,000. Well not without a noticeable limp.

If it came to that, then definitely. They are free to sue me if they want to collect.

I think the manager would actually take the heat for the screw up. He got off easy.

 

[McGarnicle]

If I'm Flay, the guy would've had the entire meal comped by now.

 

[Mr. Cross]

Wine is free at my church and you get Eternal Salvation.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Wine is free at my church and you get Eternal Salvation.

And they'll turn a blind eye to underage wimmins drinking, amirite?

 

[johnnycakes]

Kinda depends on the restaurant.

I know I'm not getting $4k bottle of wine at Ruby Tuesday.

And I know I'm not getting a $37.50 bottle at Four Seasons.

 

[ChiefD]

Wine is free at my church and you get Eternal Salvation*.

*parishioner must maintain tithing account at all times. failure to fund at the appropriate 10% rate may result in eternal damnation.

 

[Freelove]

Kinda depends on the restaurant.

I know I'm not getting $4k bottle of wine at Ruby Tuesday.

And I know I'm not getting a $37.50 bottle at Four Seasons.

Well, not with that attitude.

 

[FUBAR]

When have you ordered a bottle of wine at a restaurant that ever had cents attached to the price?

Never. None times.

Which is the exact number of times I've bought a bottle of wine at a restaurant

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I would have never paid it. If you are quoting me a food or drink item that costs over one thousand dollars you better you use the word "thousand" in there somewhere.

This. There is zero chance that I would pay for this. The restaurant should consider itself lucky if I pay for the food.

What would you do instead? Get the police involved? No way you are walking out of a casino owing them $4,000. Well not without a noticeable limp.

No shtick. I would have walked out and if they want to call the cops, that's on them. (Edit: If this conflict was about $50 or something, yeah sure I would just eat it and avoid the hassle. But for four digits? Sorry, but I have two kids to put through college and I'm not sitting for this. This isn't about being an i-Tough Guy. It's that the restaurant screwed this up, and I'll deal with the police and a possible lawsuit before I fork over this kind of coin. Chet's mileage may vary.)

I know you're joking about the last part, but casinos don't back-room people for this sort of thing.

 

[nirad3]

One bottle of wine for ten people?

Yeah. That is the weird part unless it is some super rich desert wine.

I am now going to look at every wine menu everywhere I go to see if I can find some 'cents' in there. I just looked at one of Portland's most hip wine bars and I'll be damned if I didn't see ANY cents listed on their extensive wine list. Never even thought about it before, but I think Worm is right here.

I think he's right too, but someone that is unfamiliar with wine wouldn't necessarily jump to that conclusion.

It is very presumptuous.

"that's a mighty big word for an 8-year old."

The biggest surprise is that it might be spelled correctly.

Irony?

Not irony. Just acknowledgement of my poor spelling, especially when a phone is used.

I thought you may just not like dry wines....

 

[Zow]

When have you ordered a bottle of wine at a restaurant that ever had cents attached to the price?

Never. None times.

Yep. Especially wines served by a sommelier.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

When have you ordered a bottle of wine at a restaurant that ever had cents attached to the price?

Never. None times.

There have actually been studies showing that people are more likely to order more expensive fare if the menu says "Twenty-five" rather than "25" or, worse yet, "$25.00."

The more people are reminded that actual money is involved -- as happens when a dollar sign is shown -- the more price-sensitive people become. But if you can make the price not look like a price at all, but just a decorative number or, better still, pretty words containing no numerals ... people will splurge.

Maybe that's why expensive wines don't use decimal pricing. Too numbery.

 

[Zow]

Wine is free at my church and you get Eternal Salvation.

The parishioners get the ####ty wine.

/former altar boy

 

[Zow]

When have you ordered a bottle of wine at a restaurant that ever had cents attached to the price?

Never. None times.

There have actually been studies showing that people are more likely to order more expensive fare if the menu says "Twenty-five" rather than "25" or, worse yet, "$25.00."

The more people are reminded that actual money is involved -- as happens when a dollar sign is shown -- the more price-sensitive people become. But if you can make the price not look like a price at all, but just a decorative number or, better still, pretty words containing no numerals ... people will splurge.

Maybe that's why expensive wines don't use decimal pricing. Too numbery.

Yep

 

[Jules Winnfield]

"It was okay. It was good," Lentini said of the wine. "It wasn't great. It wasn't terrible. It was fine."

This is why wine is a scam. For $3,750, he shouldn't have needed to wait for the bill to realize what happened. The wine should have knocked the guy over in his chair as soon as it his lips.

That's Screaming Eagle for you. To me, it is the most overrated wine in the world.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

I can't think of any scenario where I would order a $4k bottle of wine... If I just won the lottery for $100MM, maybe I splurge one time on a $1k bottle.

I feel like they have these on the menu just for a user error like this story. Who orders this ####?

I've been to a dinner with someone like that. Ordered 5 magnum bottles of Cristal. There were about 15 of us.ETA: When we ran out they just kept on bringing regular sized bottles of Cristal.

I believe the bill came to over $30,000

Cristal? Ho hum for bubbles

 

[General Malaise]

Boom.

what a terrible "import" beer list. and the craft beer list is the suck too. all the great portland breweries and they go with rogue?

Hard to argue this....Rogue is a coast brewery, not Portland, but they are way over priced in a highly competitive market.

yeah but they have great beer too

Meh

 

[Zow]

"sommelier"

Ranks right up there with "Feng Shui Expert" and "Diamond Appraiser"

You'd be even more disgusted when you find out how much these guys get paid to drink wine and act pretentious.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Boom.

what a terrible "import" beer list. and the craft beer list is the suck too. all the great portland breweries and they go with rogue?

Hard to argue this....Rogue is a coast brewery, not Portland, but they are way over priced in a highly competitive market.

yeah but they have great beer too

Meh

Nothing wrong with Rogue

 

[Jules Winnfield]

"sommelier"

Ranks right up there with "Feng Shui Expert" and "Diamond Appraiser"

You'd be even more disgusted when you find out how much these guys get paid to drink wine and act pretentious.

You'd be even more shocked to know that a sommelier also knows about beer and spirits. And menus, people skills, dishwashing, etc...we do everything there is help needed in a restaurant

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

Wine is free at my church and you get Eternal Salvation.

The parishioners get the ####ty wine.

/former altar boy

well you need to rinse your mouth

 

[Scoresman]

Boom.

what a terrible "import" beer list. and the craft beer list is the suck too. all the great portland breweries and they go with rogue?

Hard to argue this....Rogue is a coast brewery, not Portland, but they are way over priced in a highly competitive market.

yeah but they have great beer too

Meh

Nothing wrong with Rogue

rogue might be good, but if you're in portland you can spit farther than the nearest brewery that is way better.

 

[Zow]

"sommelier"

Ranks right up there with "Feng Shui Expert" and "Diamond Appraiser"

You'd be even more disgusted when you find out how much these guys get paid to drink wine and act pretentious.

You'd be even more shocked to know that a sommelier also knows about beer and spirits. And menus, people skills, dishwashing, etc...we do everything there is help needed in a restaurant

You are one? If so, that's awesome and good for you. Sounds like one of the best jobs in the world.

I just know the ones I've encountered in Vegas make well over six figures. So my comment is more out of jealousy than anything.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Boom.

what a terrible "import" beer list. and the craft beer list is the suck too. all the great portland breweries and they go with rogue?

Hard to argue this....Rogue is a coast brewery, not Portland, but they are way over priced in a highly competitive market.

yeah but they have great beer too

Meh

Nothing wrong with Rogue

rogue might be good, but if you're in portland you can spit farther than the nearest brewery that is way better.

I'm sure of that. To me it would be Surly makes good beer but I think I can get better beers in the Midwest

 

[General Malaise]

Boom.

what a terrible "import" beer list. and the craft beer list is the suck too. all the great portland breweries and they go with rogue?

Hard to argue this....Rogue is a coast brewery, not Portland, but they are way over priced in a highly competitive market.

yeah but they have great beer too

Meh

Nothing wrong with Rogue

I told you what was wrong with it. The price. 11.99 for a six pack is egregious, which is what they charge in their own backyard for Dead Guy. Not even remotely worth that when comparable beers go for $7.99.....

 

[nirad3]

Boom.

what a terrible "import" beer list. and the craft beer list is the suck too. all the great portland breweries and they go with rogue?

Hard to argue this....Rogue is a coast brewery, not Portland, but they are way over priced in a highly competitive market.

yeah but they have great beer too

Meh

Nothing wrong with Rogue

rogue might be good, but if you're in portland you can spit farther than the nearest brewery that is way better.

I'm sure of that. To me it would be Surly makes good beer but I think I can get better beers in the Midwest

#1 thing I miss about living in the TC. Surly.... mmmm...

 

[Bucky86]

I can't think of any scenario where I would order a $4k bottle of wine... If I just won the lottery for $100MM, maybe I splurge one time on a $1k bottle.

I feel like they have these on the menu just for a user error like this story. Who orders this ####?

I've been to a dinner with someone like that. Ordered 5 magnum bottles of Cristal. There were about 15 of us.ETA: When we ran out they just kept on bringing regular sized bottles of Cristal.

I believe the bill came to over $30,000

Cristal? Ho hum for bubbles

I don't drink champagne that often, but it tasted okay.

 

[General Malaise]

I would have never paid it. If you are quoting me a food or drink item that costs over one thousand dollars you better you use the word "thousand" in there somewhere.

This. There is zero chance that I would pay for this. The restaurant should consider itself lucky if I pay for the food.

What would you do instead? Get the police involved? No way you are walking out of a casino owing them $4,000. Well not without a noticeable limp.

No shtick. I would have walked out and if they want to call the cops, that's on them. (Edit: If this conflict was about $50 or something, yeah sure I would just eat it and avoid the hassle. But for four digits? Sorry, but I have two kids to put through college and I'm not sitting for this. This isn't about being an i-Tough Guy. It's that the restaurant screwed this up, and I'll deal with the police and a possible lawsuit before I fork over this kind of coin. Chet's mileage may vary.)

I know you're joking about the last part, but casinos don't back-room people for this sort of thing.

Wouldn't you be worried about going to jail?

 

[tommyboy]

I would have taken it as 37.50. There is a reason we have the word thousand.

Yep. Unless I'm in a place that it would be impossible to expect there to be $37.50 bottle of wine. But it would have to be REALLY obvious.

The wine menu at the restaurant has individual bottles starting from $34 and has a special "Fifty under $50" section.

The most expensive bottle is $30,000.

Server should have been clearer.

"yeah, we have one that is priced at 30" then bring you the $30,000 bottle. nice operation you got there pal

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Boom.

what a terrible "import" beer list. and the craft beer list is the suck too. all the great portland breweries and they go with rogue?

Hard to argue this....Rogue is a coast brewery, not Portland, but they are way over priced in a highly competitive market.

yeah but they have great beer too

Meh

Nothing wrong with Rogue

I told you what was wrong with it. The price. 11.99 for a six pack is egregious, which is what they charge in their own backyard for Dead Guy. Not even remotely worth that when comparable beers go for $7.99.....

The purveyor here in Minny gets $185 for a half barrel of Dead Guy. Anyone in the industry know what the price is out there?And you answered "meh" when he said Rogue had great beer without saying anything about price. Previously you did mention price but not directly to his previous statement so no, you didn't tell me what was wrong

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Boom.

what a terrible "import" beer list. and the craft beer list is the suck too. all the great portland breweries and they go with rogue?

Hard to argue this....Rogue is a coast brewery, not Portland, but they are way over priced in a highly competitive market.

yeah but they have great beer too

Meh

Nothing wrong with Rogue

rogue might be good, but if you're in portland you can spit farther than the nearest brewery that is way better.

I'm sure of that. To me it would be Surly makes good beer but I think I can get better beers in the Midwest

#1 thing I miss about living in the TC. Surly.... mmmm...

I like some of their beers but some are just popular due to name only. I hate Cynic

 

[nirad3]

Boom.

what a terrible "import" beer list. and the craft beer list is the suck too. all the great portland breweries and they go with rogue?

Hard to argue this....Rogue is a coast brewery, not Portland, but they are way over priced in a highly competitive market.

yeah but they have great beer too

Meh

Nothing wrong with Rogue

rogue might be good, but if you're in portland you can spit farther than the nearest brewery that is way better.

I'm sure of that. To me it would be Surly makes good beer but I think I can get better beers in the Midwest

#1 thing I miss about living in the TC. Surly.... mmmm...

I like some of their beers but some are just popular due to name only. I hate Cynic

I wasn't particularly fond of that one either.

 

[tommyboy]

Boom.

what a terrible "import" beer list. and the craft beer list is the suck too. all the great portland breweries and they go with rogue?

Hard to argue this....Rogue is a coast brewery, not Portland, but they are way over priced in a highly competitive market.

yeah but they have great beer too

Meh

Nothing wrong with Rogue

I told you what was wrong with it. The price. 11.99 for a six pack is egregious, which is what they charge in their own backyard for Dead Guy. Not even remotely worth that when comparable beers go for $7.99.....

but the bottles are really cool!

I hear you bud, I'm just pointing out they have a great rep for quality and its a long lived one as well. Therefore they can charge a Cadillac price because they've carved out their niche as a Cadillac brand in the market.

now johnny six pack in college isn't buying it, and most people aren't buying it either, but they must have enough customers at their price point to keep their production numbers at a level they want to be at, or they'd drop the price. Maybe they don't want to get any bigger and are just happy to produce what they've always produced.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Boom.

what a terrible "import" beer list. and the craft beer list is the suck too. all the great portland breweries and they go with rogue?

Hard to argue this....Rogue is a coast brewery, not Portland, but they are way over priced in a highly competitive market.

yeah but they have great beer too

Meh

Nothing wrong with Rogue

rogue might be good, but if you're in portland you can spit farther than the nearest brewery that is way better.

I'm sure of that. To me it would be Surly makes good beer but I think I can get better beers in the Midwest

#1 thing I miss about living in the TC. Surly.... mmmm...

I like some of their beers but some are just popular due to name only. I hate Cynic

I wasn't particularly fond of that one either.

I think it is a horrible saison and an insult to good farmhouse ale

 

[sbonomo]

I would have taken it as 37.50. There is a reason we have the word thousand.

Yep. Unless I'm in a place that it would be impossible to expect there to be $37.50 bottle of wine. But it would have to be REALLY obvious.

The wine menu at the restaurant has individual bottles starting from $34 and has a special "Fifty under $50" section.

The most expensive bottle is $30,000.

Server should have been clearer.

This place is offensive - For them i would have taken the wine off so that it did not get out they recommeded a $4K bottle of wine. Honestly, screaming eagle is a cult wine but $4K for and it wasn't a magnum. I took a quick look at the menu and now i see why. The first red i recognized was the Poppy for $60. That is a 4-500% mark up. In fact i don't see anything that is not 300%. Chalk this up to a place i will never go to.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

I would have taken it as 37.50. There is a reason we have the word thousand.

Yep. Unless I'm in a place that it would be impossible to expect there to be $37.50 bottle of wine. But it would have to be REALLY obvious.

The wine menu at the restaurant has individual bottles starting from $34 and has a special "Fifty under $50" section.

The most expensive bottle is $30,000.

Server should have been clearer.

This place is offensive - For them i would have taken the wine off so that it did not get out they recommeded a $4K bottle of wine. Honestly, screaming eagle is a cult wine but $4K for and it wasn't a magnum. I took a quick look at the menu and now i see why. The first red i recognized was the Poppy for $60. That is a 4-500% mark up. In fact i don't see anything that is not 300%. Chalk this up to a place i will never go to.

I don't even want to see what a nice Lagavulin would go for if that is their wine prices

 

[fantasycurse42]

I would have taken it as 37.50. There is a reason we have the word thousand.

Yep. Unless I'm in a place that it would be impossible to expect there to be $37.50 bottle of wine. But it would have to be REALLY obvious.

The wine menu at the restaurant has individual bottles starting from $34 and has a special "Fifty under $50" section.

The most expensive bottle is $30,000.

Server should have been clearer.

Chalk this up to a place i will never go to.

Atlantic City, good call!

 

[comfortably numb]

I see the beer snobs have taken over the thread

 

[Steve Tasker]

Hey wait a second, don't bash Cynic.....

I could go for some Furious right about now...

 

[Jules Winnfield]

I see the beer snobs have taken over the thread

No. Surly Cynic does sucks hairy balls

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I would have never paid it. If you are quoting me a food or drink item that costs over one thousand dollars you better you use the word "thousand" in there somewhere.

This. There is zero chance that I would pay for this. The restaurant should consider itself lucky if I pay for the food.

What would you do instead? Get the police involved? No way you are walking out of a casino owing them $4,000. Well not without a noticeable limp.

No shtick. I would have walked out and if they want to call the cops, that's on them. (Edit: If this conflict was about $50 or something, yeah sure I would just eat it and avoid the hassle. But for four digits? Sorry, but I have two kids to put through college and I'm not sitting for this. This isn't about being an i-Tough Guy. It's that the restaurant screwed this up, and I'll deal with the police and a possible lawsuit before I fork over this kind of coin. Chet's mileage may vary.)

I know you're joking about the last part, but casinos don't back-room people for this sort of thing.

Wouldn't you be worried about going to jail?

No. In real life, this would never happen to me because I'm too cheap to buy a $37.50 bottle of wine, but in the bizarre universe where it did, my position is that I was defrauded and if anybody should be calling the cops on anyone, it's me.

 

[jon_mx]

Seems like for a couple grand the resturant is stupid for taking on all the publicity. The waitress obviously was trying to jack up the bill for a big tip and was likely intentially being coy about what the price was to mislead the customer. If it was an over $100 a plate meal, maybe. The main dish meals were in the $40 range and majority of wines were sub $100 and many sub $50. The expectation for a thirty seven fifty bottle of wine would clearly be $37.50. I would take it to small claims court.

 

[Guest]

"What's your price range?" is a standard question. In absence of that, recommending a $4k bottle begets this result.

 

[cstu]

I would have never paid it. If you are quoting me a food or drink item that costs over one thousand dollars you better you use the word "thousand" in there somewhere.

This. There is zero chance that I would pay for this. The restaurant should consider itself lucky if I pay for the food.

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[Billy Bats]

Seems like for a couple grand the resturant is stupid for taking on all the publicity. The waitress obviously was trying to jack up the bill for a big tip and was likely intentially being coy about what the price was to mislead the customer. If it was an over $100 a plate meal, maybe. The main dish meals were in the $40 range and majority of wines were sub $100 and many sub $50. The expectation for a thirty seven fifty bottle of wine would clearly be $37.50. I would take it to small claims court.

I doubt Bobby Flay and friends are comping anything with this attitude:

"We simply will not allow the threat of a negative story that includes so many unaccounted and questionable statements to disparage our integrity and standards, which Borgata takes great pride in practicing every day.

No accountability whatsoever.

 

[cstu]

This place is offensive - For them i would have taken the wine off so that it did not get out they recommeded a $4K bottle of wine. Honestly, screaming eagle is a cult wine but $4K for and it wasn't a magnum. I took a quick look at the menu and now i see why. The first red i recognized was the Poppy for $60. That is a 4-500% mark up. In fact i don't see anything that is not 300%. Chalk this up to a place i will never go to.

Wine at restaurants is generally offensive, but it takes nerve to make a $2k profit on selling a bottle of wine.

 

[cstu]

Seems like for a couple grand the resturant is stupid for taking on all the publicity. The waitress obviously was trying to jack up the bill for a big tip and was likely intentially being coy about what the price was to mislead the customer. If it was an over $100 a plate meal, maybe. The main dish meals were in the $40 range and majority of wines were sub $100 and many sub $50. The expectation for a thirty seven fifty bottle of wine would clearly be $37.50. I would take it to small claims court.

I doubt Bobby Flay and friends are comping anything with this attitude:

"We simply will not allow the threat of a negative story that includes so many unaccounted and questionable statements to disparage our integrity and standards, which Borgata takes great pride in practicing every day.

No accountability whatsoever.

The bad publicity is going to cost them a lot more than thirty seven fifty.

 

[Guest]

Seems like for a couple grand the resturant is stupid for taking on all the publicity. The waitress obviously was trying to jack up the bill for a big tip and was likely intentially being coy about what the price was to mislead the customer. If it was an over $100 a plate meal, maybe. The main dish meals were in the $40 range and majority of wines were sub $100 and many sub $50. The expectation for a thirty seven fifty bottle of wine would clearly be $37.50. I would take it to small claims court.

I doubt Bobby Flay and friends are comping anything with this attitude:

"We simply will not allow the threat of a negative story that includes so many unaccounted and questionable statements to disparage our integrity and standards, which Borgata takes great pride in practicing every day.

No accountability whatsoever.

Arrogant pieces of ####. Quite apparent there was a massive lack of communication and an absurd recommendation made. I'll make sure I never set foot at the Borgata.

And I used to like that Bobby Flay guy.

 

[belljr]

I ain't paying no thirty seven fifty for no wine

 

[Mister Martie]

Seems like for a couple grand the resturant is stupid for taking on all the publicity. The waitress obviously was trying to jack up the bill for a big tip and was likely intentially being coy about what the price was to mislead the customer. If it was an over $100 a plate meal, maybe. The main dish meals were in the $40 range and majority of wines were sub $100 and many sub $50. The expectation for a thirty seven fifty bottle of wine would clearly be $37.50. I would take it to small claims court.

I doubt Bobby Flay and friends are comping anything with this attitude:

"We simply will not allow the threat of a negative story that includes so many unaccounted and questionable statements to disparage our integrity and standards, which Borgata takes great pride in practicing every day.

No accountability whatsoever.

"Integrity and standards" at a casino.