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You're Told a Bottle of Wine Costs "Thirty-Seven-Fifty"... (1 Viewer)

I'm too frugal to have not known exactly what the wine cost before I agreed to it, but if I ask for a recommendation after saying I don't know much about wine and they suggest a $3k+ bottle, there's likely to be some sort of a scene at my table.

And Sinn, if thirty-seven fifty is $37.50 in our minds, then fifty is $50, not .50. You start before the decimal.
Thirty-seven fifty is before the decimal - shame on you for assuming there is a decimal in the price of a bottle of wine at an over-priced restaurant.
You assume the hundred, the others assume a decimal. The price was not articulated in a manner which one can discriminate what the waiter meant. . 99.99% of Americans who drink wine are more likely to order a $37.50 bottle of wine before a $3750 bottle of wine.
I would not have assumed anything - I would have looked at the menu before agreeing to purchase the bottle.

But I also know that grammatically, the word "and" in a number indicates a decimal. I also know a bit about pricing, and would find it very odd for anything to be priced $XXX.50 at a restaurant, where things are likely to be priced in whole dollars at an upscale restaurant, or at the deceptive $XXX.99

 
I think this entire story is bull####.

He was probably knuckled and ordered a really expensive bottle of wine. The end.

 
I'm too frugal to have not known exactly what the wine cost before I agreed to it, but if I ask for a recommendation after saying I don't know much about wine and they suggest a $3k+ bottle, there's likely to be some sort of a scene at my table.

And Sinn, if thirty-seven fifty is $37.50 in our minds, then fifty is $50, not .50. You start before the decimal.
Thirty-seven fifty is before the decimal - shame on you for assuming there is a decimal in the price of a bottle of wine at an over-priced restaurant.
Gee for someone so hung up on personal responsibility you sure seem to be excusing everyone but the guy who couldn't read the menu and told the waitress he didn't know wines. Seems kind of hypocritical to excuse the people who had the motive.
:shrug: Guy bought a bottle of wine - seems you should verify the price - that is there on the menu - before agreeing to it.

Certainly, it would be good customer relations to confirm the price with the customer before cracking open a $3750 bottle of wine - but ultimately the responsibility lies with the purchaser. The price was not hidden from him - he willfully chose not to inform himself. I have no sympathy in that situation.
He could not physically see the price, though it was posted. Had he been blind would you argue he should have seen? Just a difference of degree here, and he made his infirmity known to the wait staff. We need a lawyer who is well versed in the Americans with Partial Disabilities Act.

 
I'm too frugal to have not known exactly what the wine cost before I agreed to it, but if I ask for a recommendation after saying I don't know much about wine and they suggest a $3k+ bottle, there's likely to be some sort of a scene at my table.

And Sinn, if thirty-seven fifty is $37.50 in our minds, then fifty is $50, not .50. You start before the decimal.
Thirty-seven fifty is before the decimal - shame on you for assuming there is a decimal in the price of a bottle of wine at an over-priced restaurant.
You assume the hundred, the others assume a decimal. The price was not articulated in a manner which one can discriminate what the waiter meant. . 99.99% of Americans who drink wine are more likely to order a $37.50 bottle of wine before a $3750 bottle of wine.
I would not have assumed anything - I would have looked at the menu before agreeing to purchase the bottle.

But I also know that grammatically, the word "and" in a number indicates a decimal. I also know a bit about pricing, and would find it very odd for anything to be priced $XXX.50 at a restaurant, where things are likely to be priced in whole dollars at an upscale restaurant, or at the deceptive $XXX.99
The guy said he could not see the menu without his glasses. I have seen wine lists both ways with cents and without. Certainly finer restaurants are without, but it would set off red flags if a waiter quoted a price with cents.

 
I'm too frugal to have not known exactly what the wine cost before I agreed to it, but if I ask for a recommendation after saying I don't know much about wine and they suggest a $3k+ bottle, there's likely to be some sort of a scene at my table.

And Sinn, if thirty-seven fifty is $37.50 in our minds, then fifty is $50, not .50. You start before the decimal.
Thirty-seven fifty is before the decimal - shame on you for assuming there is a decimal in the price of a bottle of wine at an over-priced restaurant.
You assume the hundred, the others assume a decimal. The price was not articulated in a manner which one can discriminate what the waiter meant. . 99.99% of Americans who drink wine are more likely to order a $37.50 bottle of wine before a $3750 bottle of wine.
I would not have assumed anything - I would have looked at the menu before agreeing to purchase the bottle.

But I also know that grammatically, the word "and" in a number indicates a decimal. I also know a bit about pricing, and would find it very odd for anything to be priced $XXX.50 at a restaurant, where things are likely to be priced in whole dollars at an upscale restaurant, or at the deceptive $XXX.99
The guy said he could not see the menu without his glasses. I have seen wine lists both ways with cents and without. Certainly finer restaurants are without, but it would set off red flags if a waiter quoted a price with cents.
exactly ;)

 
I'm too frugal to have not known exactly what the wine cost before I agreed to it, but if I ask for a recommendation after saying I don't know much about wine and they suggest a $3k+ bottle, there's likely to be some sort of a scene at my table.

And Sinn, if thirty-seven fifty is $37.50 in our minds, then fifty is $50, not .50. You start before the decimal.
Thirty-seven fifty is before the decimal - shame on you for assuming there is a decimal in the price of a bottle of wine at an over-priced restaurant.
You assume the hundred, the others assume a decimal. The price was not articulated in a manner which one can discriminate what the waiter meant. . 99.99% of Americans who drink wine are more likely to order a $37.50 bottle of wine before a $3750 bottle of wine.
I would not have assumed anything - I would have looked at the menu before agreeing to purchase the bottle.

But I also know that grammatically, the word "and" in a number indicates a decimal. I also know a bit about pricing, and would find it very odd for anything to be priced $XXX.50 at a restaurant, where things are likely to be priced in whole dollars at an upscale restaurant, or at the deceptive $XXX.99
The guy said he could not see the menu without his glasses. I have seen wine lists both ways with cents and without. Certainly finer restaurants are without, but it would set off red flags if a waiter quoted a price with cents.
exactly ;)
meant to say would not...ugh. :lol:

 
I'm too frugal to have not known exactly what the wine cost before I agreed to it, but if I ask for a recommendation after saying I don't know much about wine and they suggest a $3k+ bottle, there's likely to be some sort of a scene at my table.

And Sinn, if thirty-seven fifty is $37.50 in our minds, then fifty is $50, not .50. You start before the decimal.
Thirty-seven fifty is before the decimal - shame on you for assuming there is a decimal in the price of a bottle of wine at an over-priced restaurant.
Gee for someone so hung up on personal responsibility you sure seem to be excusing everyone but the guy who couldn't read the menu and told the waitress he didn't know wines. Seems kind of hypocritical to excuse the people who had the motive.
:shrug: Guy bought a bottle of wine - seems you should verify the price - that is there on the menu - before agreeing to it.

Certainly, it would be good customer relations to confirm the price with the customer before cracking open a $3750 bottle of wine - but ultimately the responsibility lies with the purchaser. The price was not hidden from him - he willfully chose not to inform himself. I have no sympathy in that situation.
He could not physically see the price, though it was posted. Had he been blind would you argue he should have seen? Just a difference of degree here, and he made his infirmity known to the wait staff. We need a lawyer who is well versed in the Americans with Partial Disabilities Act.
Would you excuse a blind man for driving a car through a red light, on the grounds that he could not see the light was red?

 
Any decent restaurateur has a responsibility to his guests and should aim for them to have an enjoyable experience. That did not happen here due to a lack of communication. Therefore it's a failure on the restaurant's part, and one that could have been prevented in a number of ways, perhaps the easiest two being less bold in the recommendation and using the word "thousand".

 
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I'm too frugal to have not known exactly what the wine cost before I agreed to it, but if I ask for a recommendation after saying I don't know much about wine and they suggest a $3k+ bottle, there's likely to be some sort of a scene at my table.

And Sinn, if thirty-seven fifty is $37.50 in our minds, then fifty is $50, not .50. You start before the decimal.
Thirty-seven fifty is before the decimal - shame on you for assuming there is a decimal in the price of a bottle of wine at an over-priced restaurant.
Gee for someone so hung up on personal responsibility you sure seem to be excusing everyone but the guy who couldn't read the menu and told the waitress he didn't know wines. Seems kind of hypocritical to excuse the people who had the motive.
:shrug: Guy bought a bottle of wine - seems you should verify the price - that is there on the menu - before agreeing to it.

Certainly, it would be good customer relations to confirm the price with the customer before cracking open a $3750 bottle of wine - but ultimately the responsibility lies with the purchaser. The price was not hidden from him - he willfully chose not to inform himself. I have no sympathy in that situation.
He could not physically see the price, though it was posted. Had he been blind would you argue he should have seen? Just a difference of degree here, and he made his infirmity known to the wait staff. We need a lawyer who is well versed in the Americans with Partial Disabilities Act.
Would you excuse a blind man for driving a car through a red light, on the grounds that he could not see the light was red?
What prescription strength does it become illegal to drink wine?

 
I'm too frugal to have not known exactly what the wine cost before I agreed to it, but if I ask for a recommendation after saying I don't know much about wine and they suggest a $3k+ bottle, there's likely to be some sort of a scene at my table.

And Sinn, if thirty-seven fifty is $37.50 in our minds, then fifty is $50, not .50. You start before the decimal.
Thirty-seven fifty is before the decimal - shame on you for assuming there is a decimal in the price of a bottle of wine at an over-priced restaurant.
Gee for someone so hung up on personal responsibility you sure seem to be excusing everyone but the guy who couldn't read the menu and told the waitress he didn't know wines. Seems kind of hypocritical to excuse the people who had the motive.
:shrug: Guy bought a bottle of wine - seems you should verify the price - that is there on the menu - before agreeing to it.

Certainly, it would be good customer relations to confirm the price with the customer before cracking open a $3750 bottle of wine - but ultimately the responsibility lies with the purchaser. The price was not hidden from him - he willfully chose not to inform himself. I have no sympathy in that situation.
He could not physically see the price, though it was posted. Had he been blind would you argue he should have seen? Just a difference of degree here, and he made his infirmity known to the wait staff. We need a lawyer who is well versed in the Americans with Partial Disabilities Act.
Would you excuse a blind man for driving a car through a red light, on the grounds that he could not see the light was red?
What prescription strength does it become illegal to drink wine?
:shrug: When you can't afford it?

 
I'm too frugal to have not known exactly what the wine cost before I agreed to it, but if I ask for a recommendation after saying I don't know much about wine and they suggest a $3k+ bottle, there's likely to be some sort of a scene at my table.

And Sinn, if thirty-seven fifty is $37.50 in our minds, then fifty is $50, not .50. You start before the decimal.
Thirty-seven fifty is before the decimal - shame on you for assuming there is a decimal in the price of a bottle of wine at an over-priced restaurant.
Gee for someone so hung up on personal responsibility you sure seem to be excusing everyone but the guy who couldn't read the menu and told the waitress he didn't know wines. Seems kind of hypocritical to excuse the people who had the motive.
:shrug: Guy bought a bottle of wine - seems you should verify the price - that is there on the menu - before agreeing to it.

Certainly, it would be good customer relations to confirm the price with the customer before cracking open a $3750 bottle of wine - but ultimately the responsibility lies with the purchaser. The price was not hidden from him - he willfully chose not to inform himself. I have no sympathy in that situation.
Again letting the restaurant off. You know the people making the money off the shady exchange. Their bill for everything else in this restaurant never suggested that kind of buy. When you sell someone a wine that costs many times what the entire rest of the bill was you have a responsibility to be clear. The waitress wasn't.

 
I'm too frugal to have not known exactly what the wine cost before I agreed to it, but if I ask for a recommendation after saying I don't know much about wine and they suggest a $3k+ bottle, there's likely to be some sort of a scene at my table.

And Sinn, if thirty-seven fifty is $37.50 in our minds, then fifty is $50, not .50. You start before the decimal.
Thirty-seven fifty is before the decimal - shame on you for assuming there is a decimal in the price of a bottle of wine at an over-priced restaurant.
Gee for someone so hung up on personal responsibility you sure seem to be excusing everyone but the guy who couldn't read the menu and told the waitress he didn't know wines. Seems kind of hypocritical to excuse the people who had the motive.
:shrug: Guy bought a bottle of wine - seems you should verify the price - that is there on the menu - before agreeing to it.

Certainly, it would be good customer relations to confirm the price with the customer before cracking open a $3750 bottle of wine - but ultimately the responsibility lies with the purchaser. The price was not hidden from him - he willfully chose not to inform himself. I have no sympathy in that situation.
Again letting the restaurant off. You know the people making the money off the shady exchange. Their bill for everything else in this restaurant never suggested that kind of buy. When you sell someone a wine that costs many times what the entire rest of the bill was you have a responsibility to be clear. The waitress wasn't.
When you buy something you have a responsibility to be clear. When you sell something, you have a responsibility to not be fraudulent. There was no fraud here. Nobody told the group they could not look at the menu, nor did they hide the prices.

Sure the restaurant could have done things differently - but ultimately, this guy had a responsibility to verify the price before he agreed to buy it. He chose not to. Thats on him. No sympathy.

 
I'm too frugal to have not known exactly what the wine cost before I agreed to it, but if I ask for a recommendation after saying I don't know much about wine and they suggest a $3k+ bottle, there's likely to be some sort of a scene at my table.

And Sinn, if thirty-seven fifty is $37.50 in our minds, then fifty is $50, not .50. You start before the decimal.
Thirty-seven fifty is before the decimal - shame on you for assuming there is a decimal in the price of a bottle of wine at an over-priced restaurant.
Gee for someone so hung up on personal responsibility you sure seem to be excusing everyone but the guy who couldn't read the menu and told the waitress he didn't know wines. Seems kind of hypocritical to excuse the people who had the motive.
:shrug: Guy bought a bottle of wine - seems you should verify the price - that is there on the menu - before agreeing to it.

Certainly, it would be good customer relations to confirm the price with the customer before cracking open a $3750 bottle of wine - but ultimately the responsibility lies with the purchaser. The price was not hidden from him - he willfully chose not to inform himself. I have no sympathy in that situation.
He could not physically see the price, though it was posted. Had he been blind would you argue he should have seen? Just a difference of degree here, and he made his infirmity known to the wait staff. We need a lawyer who is well versed in the Americans with Partial Disabilities Act.
Would you excuse a blind man for driving a car through a red light, on the grounds that he could not see the light was red?
I might, were he being distracted by a really bad analogy.

 
Mr. Ham said:
Any decent restaurateur has a responsibility to his guests and should aim for them to have an enjoyable experience. That did not happen here due to a lack of communication. Therefore it's a failure on the restaurant's part, and one that could have been prevented in a number of ways, perhaps the easiest two being less bold in the recommendation and using the word "thousand".
What, and have people realize how stupid it is to spend that much money on something to drink?

 
Ditkaless Wonders said:
Flay should cook a tableside meal for the group who paid and their spouses. He and the Sommelier should have a brief wine tasting and educational session for the group. Pretty easy really to make this a positive.
My guess is that Flay is a #### and simply doesn't care.

 
Sinn Fein said:
Here is a story which clarifies what the guy said he asked for, "something decent". Much different that what the waiter claims, "the best".

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — That’s really something to whine about!

Last week, Joe Lentini of Hazlet, New Jersey was dining at Bobby Flay Steak at the Borgata [SIZE=inherit]Hotel[/SIZE] and Casino in Atlantic City.

The host at a table of 10, told Lentini to choose a wine.

Lentini told NJ.com he asked the waitress to make a suggestion. “I asked the waitress if she could recommend something decent because I don’t have experience with wine,” Lentini told NJ.com. “She pointed to a bottle on the menu. I didn’t have my glasses. I asked how much and she said, ‘Thirty-seven fifty.'”

Everyone at the table agreed to the [SIZE=inherit]price[/SIZE] and ordered the wine.

When the bill came, the wine, Screaming Eagle, Oakville 2011, was $3,750 — not $37.50 as Lentini thought.

Lentini said he called the waitress over and explained the mix-up and that he would never have ordered a nearly $4,000 bottle of wine.

“I said the waitress told me [SIZE=inherit]it cost[/SIZE] ‘thirty-seven fifty,’ not ‘three-thousand, seven-hundred and fifty dollars,'” Lentini told NJ.com.

After a back and forth, the [SIZE=inherit]restaurant[/SIZE] said the best they could do was lower the price to $2,200 which several diners split, Lentini said.

And how was the wine after all that? “It was okay. It was good. It wasn’t great. It wasn’t terrible. It was fine,” Lentini told the [SIZE=inherit]paper[/SIZE].

Bottles of wine at Bobby Flay Steak start at $34 and go all the way up to $30,000 for an imperial six liter Chateau Petrus, Pomerol 1998.
How does it "clarify" - isn't it just ons version of the events, told by one side?

And where does personal accountability live in your world - do you often blame someone else when you make a mistake? I confess, I had you confused with a conservative, who would never blame others for their mistake...
It makes a lot more sense that someone who doesn't know much about wine would ask for 'something decent' than 'the best'.

Do you agree?

 
Here is a story which clarifies what the guy said he asked for, "something decent". Much different that what the waiter claims, "the best".

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — That’s really something to whine about!

Last week, Joe Lentini of Hazlet, New Jersey was dining at Bobby Flay Steak at the Borgata [SIZE=inherit]Hotel[/SIZE] and Casino in Atlantic City.

The host at a table of 10, told Lentini to choose a wine.

Lentini told NJ.com he asked the waitress to make a suggestion. “I asked the waitress if she could recommend something decent because I don’t have experience with wine,” Lentini told NJ.com. “She pointed to a bottle on the menu. I didn’t have my glasses. I asked how much and she said, ‘Thirty-seven fifty.'”

Everyone at the table agreed to the [SIZE=inherit]price[/SIZE] and ordered the wine.

When the bill came, the wine, Screaming Eagle, Oakville 2011, was $3,750 — not $37.50 as Lentini thought.

Lentini said he called the waitress over and explained the mix-up and that he would never have ordered a nearly $4,000 bottle of wine.

“I said the waitress told me [SIZE=inherit]it cost[/SIZE] ‘thirty-seven fifty,’ not ‘three-thousand, seven-hundred and fifty dollars,'” Lentini told NJ.com.

After a back and forth, the [SIZE=inherit]restaurant[/SIZE] said the best they could do was lower the price to $2,200 which several diners split, Lentini said.

And how was the wine after all that? “It was okay. It was good. It wasn’t great. It wasn’t terrible. It was fine,” Lentini told the [SIZE=inherit]paper[/SIZE].

Bottles of wine at Bobby Flay Steak start at $34 and go all the way up to $30,000 for an imperial six liter Chateau Petrus, Pomerol 1998.
Right the guy says he said "something decent" Borgata says he said "the best". Which makes more sense in this scenario?

 
Sinn Fein said:
Here is a story which clarifies what the guy said he asked for, "something decent". Much different that what the waiter claims, "the best".

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — That’s really something to whine about!

Last week, Joe Lentini of Hazlet, New Jersey was dining at Bobby Flay Steak at the Borgata [SIZE=inherit]Hotel[/SIZE] and Casino in Atlantic City.

The host at a table of 10, told Lentini to choose a wine.

Lentini told NJ.com he asked the waitress to make a suggestion. “I asked the waitress if she could recommend something decent because I don’t have experience with wine,” Lentini told NJ.com. “She pointed to a bottle on the menu. I didn’t have my glasses. I asked how much and she said, ‘Thirty-seven fifty.'”

Everyone at the table agreed to the [SIZE=inherit]price[/SIZE] and ordered the wine.

When the bill came, the wine, Screaming Eagle, Oakville 2011, was $3,750 — not $37.50 as Lentini thought.

Lentini said he called the waitress over and explained the mix-up and that he would never have ordered a nearly $4,000 bottle of wine.

“I said the waitress told me [SIZE=inherit]it cost[/SIZE] ‘thirty-seven fifty,’ not ‘three-thousand, seven-hundred and fifty dollars,'” Lentini told NJ.com.

After a back and forth, the [SIZE=inherit]restaurant[/SIZE] said the best they could do was lower the price to $2,200 which several diners split, Lentini said.

And how was the wine after all that? “It was okay. It was good. It wasn’t great. It wasn’t terrible. It was fine,” Lentini told the [SIZE=inherit]paper[/SIZE].

Bottles of wine at Bobby Flay Steak start at $34 and go all the way up to $30,000 for an imperial six liter Chateau Petrus, Pomerol 1998.
How does it "clarify" - isn't it just ons version of the events, told by one side?

And where does personal accountability live in your world - do you often blame someone else when you make a mistake? I confess, I had you confused with a conservative, who would never blame others for their mistake...
It makes a lot more sense that someone who doesn't know much about wine would ask for 'something decent' than 'the best'.

Do you agree?
It makes much more sense that the waitress would recommend the Screaming Eagle if he said "the best" rather than "something decent"

 
Sinn Fein said:
Here is a story which clarifies what the guy said he asked for, "something decent". Much different that what the waiter claims, "the best".

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — That’s really something to whine about!

Last week, Joe Lentini of Hazlet, New Jersey was dining at Bobby Flay Steak at the Borgata [SIZE=inherit]Hotel[/SIZE] and Casino in Atlantic City.

The host at a table of 10, told Lentini to choose a wine.

Lentini told NJ.com he asked the waitress to make a suggestion. “I asked the waitress if she could recommend something decent because I don’t have experience with wine,” Lentini told NJ.com. “She pointed to a bottle on the menu. I didn’t have my glasses. I asked how much and she said, ‘Thirty-seven fifty.'”

Everyone at the table agreed to the [SIZE=inherit]price[/SIZE] and ordered the wine.

When the bill came, the wine, Screaming Eagle, Oakville 2011, was $3,750 — not $37.50 as Lentini thought.

Lentini said he called the waitress over and explained the mix-up and that he would never have ordered a nearly $4,000 bottle of wine.

“I said the waitress told me [SIZE=inherit]it cost[/SIZE] ‘thirty-seven fifty,’ not ‘three-thousand, seven-hundred and fifty dollars,'” Lentini told NJ.com.

After a back and forth, the [SIZE=inherit]restaurant[/SIZE] said the best they could do was lower the price to $2,200 which several diners split, Lentini said.

And how was the wine after all that? “It was okay. It was good. It wasn’t great. It wasn’t terrible. It was fine,” Lentini told the [SIZE=inherit]paper[/SIZE].

Bottles of wine at Bobby Flay Steak start at $34 and go all the way up to $30,000 for an imperial six liter Chateau Petrus, Pomerol 1998.
How does it "clarify" - isn't it just ons version of the events, told by one side?

And where does personal accountability live in your world - do you often blame someone else when you make a mistake? I confess, I had you confused with a conservative, who would never blame others for their mistake...
It makes a lot more sense that someone who doesn't know much about wine would ask for 'something decent' than 'the best'.

Do you agree?
No - what makes more sense is you say "Hey, what a good wine to go with this steak?"

Now I am not a wine drinker, but I would imagine that most wines come down to personal taste - so aside from the general advice of red wine with red meat, and white wine with white meat/fish - not sure what you are looking for from a waiter/waitress when you ask for any kind of recommendation...

 
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Sinn Fein said:
Here is a story which clarifies what the guy said he asked for, "something decent". Much different that what the waiter claims, "the best".

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — That’s really something to whine about!

Last week, Joe Lentini of Hazlet, New Jersey was dining at Bobby Flay Steak at the Borgata [SIZE=inherit]Hotel[/SIZE] and Casino in Atlantic City.

The host at a table of 10, told Lentini to choose a wine.

Lentini told NJ.com he asked the waitress to make a suggestion. “I asked the waitress if she could recommend something decent because I don’t have experience with wine,” Lentini told NJ.com. “She pointed to a bottle on the menu. I didn’t have my glasses. I asked how much and she said, ‘Thirty-seven fifty.'”

Everyone at the table agreed to the [SIZE=inherit]price[/SIZE] and ordered the wine.

When the bill came, the wine, Screaming Eagle, Oakville 2011, was $3,750 — not $37.50 as Lentini thought.

Lentini said he called the waitress over and explained the mix-up and that he would never have ordered a nearly $4,000 bottle of wine.

“I said the waitress told me [SIZE=inherit]it cost[/SIZE] ‘thirty-seven fifty,’ not ‘three-thousand, seven-hundred and fifty dollars,'” Lentini told NJ.com.

After a back and forth, the [SIZE=inherit]restaurant[/SIZE] said the best they could do was lower the price to $2,200 which several diners split, Lentini said.

And how was the wine after all that? “It was okay. It was good. It wasn’t great. It wasn’t terrible. It was fine,” Lentini told the [SIZE=inherit]paper[/SIZE].

Bottles of wine at Bobby Flay Steak start at $34 and go all the way up to $30,000 for an imperial six liter Chateau Petrus, Pomerol 1998.
How does it "clarify" - isn't it just ons version of the events, told by one side?

And where does personal accountability live in your world - do you often blame someone else when you make a mistake? I confess, I had you confused with a conservative, who would never blame others for their mistake...
It makes a lot more sense that someone who doesn't know much about wine would ask for 'something decent' than 'the best'.

Do you agree?
It makes much more sense that the waitress would recommend the Screaming Eagle if he said "the best" rather than "something decent"
Depends on the waiter. :shrug:

 
What would have happened if the guy couldn't have paid...as if he didn't have enough funds? :lol: "Sorry I only have 2k limit on this credit card!"

 
Now I am not a wine drinker, but I would imagine that most wines come down to personal taste - so aside from the general advice of red wine with red meat, and white wine with white meat/fish - not sure what you are looking for from a waiter/waitress when you ask for any kind of recommendation...
I am a wine drinker and one thing I'm not looking for is a $3750 bottle of wine I couldn't tell the difference from a $100 bottle.

I'm not one to ask for advice but when I have asked it's been "Which one do you recommend between these two choices". I would expect them to have heard compliments about certain wines and give a recommendation based on that.

 
Sinn Fein said:
Here is a story which clarifies what the guy said he asked for, "something decent". Much different that what the waiter claims, "the best".

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — That’s really something to whine about!

Last week, Joe Lentini of Hazlet, New Jersey was dining at Bobby Flay Steak at the Borgata Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City.

The host at a table of 10, told Lentini to choose a wine.

Lentini told NJ.com he asked the waitress to make a suggestion. “I asked the waitress if she could recommend something decent because I don’t have experience with wine,” Lentini told NJ.com. “She pointed to a bottle on the menu. I didn’t have my glasses. I asked how much and she said, ‘Thirty-seven fifty.'”

Everyone at the table agreed to the price and ordered the wine.

When the bill came, the wine, Screaming Eagle, Oakville 2011, was $3,750 — not $37.50 as Lentini thought.

Lentini said he called the waitress over and explained the mix-up and that he would never have ordered a nearly $4,000 bottle of wine.

“I said the waitress told me it cost ‘thirty-seven fifty,’ not ‘three-thousand, seven-hundred and fifty dollars,'” Lentini told NJ.com.

After a back and forth, the restaurant said the best they could do was lower the price to $2,200 which several diners split, Lentini said.

And how was the wine after all that? “It was okay. It was good. It wasn’t great. It wasn’t terrible. It was fine,” Lentini told the paper.

Bottles of wine at Bobby Flay Steak start at $34 and go all the way up to $30,000 for an imperial six liter Chateau Petrus, Pomerol 1998.
How does it "clarify" - isn't it just ons version of the events, told by one side?

And where does personal accountability live in your world - do you often blame someone else when you make a mistake? I confess, I had you confused with a conservative, who would never blame others for their mistake...
It makes a lot more sense that someone who doesn't know much about wine would ask for 'something decent' than 'the best'.

Do you agree?
It makes much more sense that the waitress would recommend the Screaming Eagle if he said "the best" rather than "something decent"
The best bottle at the restaurant according to the article in the above post is a $30,000 bottle of Chateau Petris. Sounds like the server did recommend something " decent " for this restaurant.

 
I remember an article from around 2005, some bar on an island in the South Pacific that got a mixture of celebrities and hedge fund managers coming off of yachts. They had a bottle of $50k champagne and would ring a bell when they sold it. Sure enough, several times a night... Ring a ding ding.

 
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Sinn Fein said:
Ditkaless Wonders said:
Sinn Fein said:
NCCommish said:
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I'm too frugal to have not known exactly what the wine cost before I agreed to it, but if I ask for a recommendation after saying I don't know much about wine and they suggest a $3k+ bottle, there's likely to be some sort of a scene at my table.

And Sinn, if thirty-seven fifty is $37.50 in our minds, then fifty is $50, not .50. You start before the decimal.
Thirty-seven fifty is before the decimal - shame on you for assuming there is a decimal in the price of a bottle of wine at an over-priced restaurant.
Gee for someone so hung up on personal responsibility you sure seem to be excusing everyone but the guy who couldn't read the menu and told the waitress he didn't know wines. Seems kind of hypocritical to excuse the people who had the motive.
:shrug: Guy bought a bottle of wine - seems you should verify the price - that is there on the menu - before agreeing to it.

Certainly, it would be good customer relations to confirm the price with the customer before cracking open a $3750 bottle of wine - but ultimately the responsibility lies with the purchaser. The price was not hidden from him - he willfully chose not to inform himself. I have no sympathy in that situation.
He could not physically see the price, though it was posted. Had he been blind would you argue he should have seen? Just a difference of degree here, and he made his infirmity known to the wait staff. We need a lawyer who is well versed in the Americans with Partial Disabilities Act.
Would you excuse a blind man for driving a car through a red light, on the grounds that he could not see the light was red?
This is a pretty distinguishable analogy.

 

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