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Mad King's uncle (on the TV show; great uncle in the book) - his brother was the Mad King's father. In the books, he's over 100 years old. They've chosen to make him a generation younger on the show, which really doesn't change much as far as the story goes.
It probably will because of the log storyli.es
it was my own lack of will power that made me click a spoiler or 2. The book readers are a great help in here.
There's only a couple of places an army can cross the Trident river. Tywin's sitting at one of them. They other is the Twins (where Cat negotiated Robb's crossing). Since Robb's plan included lifting Jaime's seige of Riverrun to the west, he had to cross at the Twins or go through Tywin. So he split his forces, sending a token force of 2,000 against Tywin - just enough (in show-logic; it was done a little differently in the book) that - combined with the released spy from last week's estimate of 20,000 men - Tywin would think Robb was coming with his whole army. Meanwhile Robb's going after Jaime, who's a very good single-combat fighter but isn't his dad when it comes to leading an army. It remains to be seen if the show is going to combine the battle Robb fought last night with the battle he fights at Riverrun to lift the seige (two different battles in the book), but if Robb clears Jaime's army away from Riverrun gives him a very important base in the Riverlands. It also puts him between Tywin and Tywin's home.So, yes - Tywin's to the east, Jaime's to the west of him, and Robb's coming from the north then turns west with the bulk of his army.
I understand where you're coming from. When Dance With Dragons comes out next month, I'm staying far far away from all of the Martin boards until I'm finished reading it.
That's correct. Nymeria is temporarily absent.There are only 3 or 4 significant spots the wolves make an impact in the first book...and the show has included them.She shooed her away after it attacked Joffrey.
I expect it would. They are very well written, especially the first two.
Without throwing out real spoilers here: Recall Ned sent a message to Stannis Baratheon, and also that Renly left Kings landing (taking a small force and the Knight of Flowers). There are also several major houses that have barely appeared, or not appeared at all in the story. Recall the scenes involving Robb's squire, the young Greyjoy.$@%#^& like last night shows that Martin WILL kill off a "hero" if it suits his plotline, and there are literally dozens of characters yet to be introduced. ONe of the reasons his books are so succesful is because of the fact that heros can die, and the line differentiating the heros and the villians is sometimes very blurry. Just sit back and enjoy the ride knowing more surprises and twists will come.
Can you point out a specific post?
I was just thinking last night that it was refreshing and enjoyable to have writing that is not afraid to kill off a lead hero. I certainly can see why this guy is such a popular author.
Infections are a #####.
Hadn't thought about that. So Tywin orginally came from Casterly and went east towards Kings Landing to cut off Robb....while Robb cuts back west.
That's correct. Nymeria is temporarily absent.There are only 3 or 4 significant spots the wolves make an impact in the first book...and the show has included them.She shooed her away after it attacked Joffrey.
No. Attack on Bran by the Wildings? Whispering Wood? Another big one next week with Ghost, we will see.
One more this season
and then we have to wait 18months?
And the most pompous and pretentious post of the week goes to...
Do you really think this spoils angything?
I'm thinking it's a budget consideration. They probably can't afford lots of staged battles. Plus there seems to be so much to cover plot wise, they really can't devote significant portions of episodes to Braveheart style battle segments.
I'd imagine it'll start back up next April.
It is a little disappointing but the budget for this thing has to already be huge. If cutting a few battle scenes keeps it from going the way of Deadwood (canceled for budgetary reasons even though it was still pretty popular) I can live with that.
Bean's been great. Really looking forward to how he'll play zombie Ned when he comes back as a whitewalker.I've found Dinklage hit and miss. That accent he's trying comes and goes ala Costner, and sometimes I have no idea what kind of accent he's trying to pull off anyway.
I haven't read the books, I'm just joking around.
I hope that's not an actual plot development in the story because that would be pretty stupid. Someone PM me if that's the case and I'll delete that part of my post.
I LOLed.
after those scenes.Looks like I will be reading all night tonight!After last night's show, my wife finally broke down and asked me where the first book in the series was. This will be her first foray into fantasy
All the "just wait to see what happens next" softens the impact. If I were in your shoes I'd stay away from this thread and start a season 2 topic with tv followers only.
MY wife still doesn't think he's dead. "They can't... something happened and he'll be okay next episode."
Agree with the bolded, that's annoying. It's like when I have a soccer game recorded and someone knows it, and they come up to me and say something like "It was a great game, amazing ending" or some crap like that. I know you're not technically giving anything away and just trying to make conversation, but still. Just leave it alone. I'm in the middle of the second book right now, and although that post doesn't say what will happen, I would prefer that I hadn't seen it.
The book leaves it more open than the TV show. That chapter is from Arya's point of view and she doesn't actually see sword go through neck, just hears it. On my initial read, I was thinking "well she didn't SEE him die so maybe he got away".
My GF went to the library today to try to check it out...she's never read fantasy either. (My copy is buried in the garage somewhere...no idea which box.) I laughed at her...asked if she honestly thought she was the only one suddenly interested in reading it.....lolAfter last night's show, my wife finally broke down and asked me where the first book in the series was. This will be her first foray into fantasy
Regarding that scene, is there any confusion on who that was with Arya in the scene? It happened pretty quickly and I don't consider it a spoiler. Basically if the increasing number of characters has you confused and you didn't catch who it was speak up.
At first I wasn't sure, but it was the recruiter for the wall, right? I forget his name. I assume the looks Ned gave was implying "you said you were my brother, now act like it for my daughter".
That's who i thought he was. The guy who brought news of what Lady Stark had done, also?He mistakes Arya as Ned's son when he first walks in.
yepThat's who i thought he was. The guy who brought news of what Lady Stark had done, also?He mistakes Arya as Ned's son when he first walks in.
She needs a hit of the good stuff!
