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DYNASTY: Top 2013 College Prospects (2 Viewers)

The 40 times for RB's were pretty unimpressive:

2013 Running Back 40-Yard Dash Times Finish Player School Ht/Wt Best 40 Time 1 Onterrio McCalebb Auburn 5'11", 173 4.34 2 Knile Davis Arkansas 6'0", 226 4.37 3 Kerwynn Williams Utah State 5'8", 189 4.48 4 Johnathan Franklin UCLA 5'11", 195 4.49 5 Michael Ford LSU 5'10", 216 4.50 6 Kenjon Barner Oregon 5'11", 195 4.52 6 D.J. Harper Boise State 5'9", 205 4.52 8 Mike James Miami 5'11", 220 4.53 8 Giovani Bernard North Carolina 5'10", 205 4.53 10 Christine Michael Texas A&M 5'11", 213 4.54 11 Mike Gillislee Florida 5'11", 209 4.55 11 Zac Stacy Vanderbilt 5'11", 210 4.55 11 Matthew Tucker TCU 6'1", 227 4.55 14 Cierre Wood Notre Dame 6'0", 215 4.56 15 C.J. Anderson California 5'11", 210 4.60
Other notables:
•Stanford's Stepfan Taylor (4.76) •Wisconsin's Montee Ball (4.66) •Pittsburgh's Ray Graham (4.80) •SMU's Zach Line (4.77)Did not run:•Alabama's Eddie Lacy •South Carolina's Marcus Lattimore •Florida State's Chris Thompson •LSU's Spencer Ware
 
@KevinW_ESPNWatched some tape of Gio Bernard this week. Love his feet and instincts but not overly impressed. Limited power and yards after contact.@KevinW_ESPN Thought when healthy Jawan Jamison was a more explosive runner than Bernard on tape. Can creates more yards on his own + finishes stronger
Jamison averaged 4.2 YPC. Bernard 6.7. Who's more explosive?
Poor measuring stick.
Bernard: 4.53 official, 4.50 unofficial, 1.53 10-yardJamison: 4.68 official, 4.50 unofficial, 1.66 10-yardGood enough measuring stick for you?
Jamison is floating close to the danger zone, don't take much out of the rest. Only things that catch my eye at the combine are extremes. Neither was extremely bad nor extremely good.
 
'Faust said:
"Don Banks 2013 NFL Mock Draft 2.0"Has a guard ever been picked as a top 5 pick? Anything is possible I guess, just find that one hard to believe
He's one of the surest things in this draft. I expect him to be gone by #7 if he doesn't go earlier.
Many say he is the best player in the draft. If a QB graded as high as he is graded at his position, then the Cheifs would not have traded for Smith. In early mocks he fell to my Rams at 16 and was giddy. No way he falls to them unless he is arrested in the next few weeks for something pretty bad.
 
A few notes from Rotoworld:

Former WVU QB coach Jake Spavital says QB Geno Smith is a top 5 talent.Spavital said it "blows" his mind that NFL Network's Mike Mayock rates Smith in the 20-32 range. He also noted how much freedom Smith had at the line of scrimmage. "He's more of an under-center, pro-style play-action, quarterback, but he can throw out of the shotgun, play in the spread, run a zone-read," Spavital said. "He's such a student of the game, there were times we let him check 80 percent of the game. He knows how to manage a game and he knows what everyone is supposed to be doing." Source: Cleveland.com
Former Indianapolis Colts GM Bill Polian said Notre Dame TE Tyler Eifert is similar to Tampa Bay Buccaneers tight end Dallas Clark."He’s along the lines of Dallas Clark, but I think taller. He runs more than good enough and he has very good hands and ball skills. He really goes and gets after the ball," Polian said. "He gets a lot of jump balls, and he’s highly competitive. He’s not the kind of guy that’s going to knock anybody on their rear end blocking. The physical load of being inside attached would be a little difficult for him." Source: Atlanta-Journal Constitution
Tennessee Tech coaches were bothered by WR Da'Rick Rogers' attitude during his one year with the program, according to CBS Sports' Bruce Feldman.Apparently "they were skeptical about just how much (Rogers) really had matured," after transferring from Tennessee, per Feldman. "I play with an edge, and I had to learn to control that edge off the field also," Rogers said. "I had to learn how to fix my flaws, and life got easier." The receiver was reportedly drug tested 10 times at Tennessee Tech.Source: CBS Sports
ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported that South Carolina RB Marcus Lattimore is unlikely to help the team that selects him during his rookie season."The medicals on him are not great," said Mort. "Dr. (James) Andrews, who did the surgery, says it's one of the toughest surgeries he's ever had. ... You take Marcus Lattimore, you're taking him for 2014. Nobody wants to shoot down the inspiration for him, but the bottom line is it's going to be a long road." This is the first negative, albeit realistic, report we have read, but expect Lattimore to draw a middle round selection.
 
'cstu said:
"Don Banks 2013 NFL Mock Draft 2.0"Has a guard ever been picked as a top 5 pick? Anything is possible I guess, just find that one hard to believe
He's one of the surest things in this draft. I expect him to be gone by #7 if he doesn't go earlier.
So was David Decastro. This draft has good depth at the position. I'm not buying that a guard is going in the top 10.
 
Big Board: Post-combine thoughts on players moving up, down

By Rob Rang | The Sports Xchange/CBSSports.com

The annual scouting combine gives talent evaluators their best opportunity for an apples-to-apples comparison of the top prospects in the country.

Some prospects, like Tennessee wide receiver Cordarrelle Patterson or Arkansas-Pine Bluff offensive tackle Terron Armstead, took full advantage of the opportunity to demonstrate their athleticism. Others, like Patterson's former teammate Da'Rick Rogers or Southern California wideout Robert Woods, impressed just as much in the interview process.

Of course, there were others whose workouts and interviews raised more questions.

The Big Board isn't a mock draft. There is no attention given to team needs or the selection order. It is simply a ranking of the 64 best draft-eligible prospects for the 2013 NFL Draft before we get consumed by the annual data overload from player workouts.

Underclassmen are denoted with an asterisk (*).

1. * Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M: Having earned all-conference recognition all three years of his career, including first-team All-SEC honors and winning the Outland Trophy in 2012, the baby-faced Joeckel is already a proven star who is just going to get better as he grows into his frame. Before blasting Joeckel too much for running the 40 in 5.30 seconds, recall that the last offensive tackle to be drafted No. 1 overall, Jake Long, was timed at 5.22 seconds.

2. * Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia: In a draft in which everyone is projecting numbers based on upside, Jones actually produced. It was Jones, not Jadeveon Clowney, who led the country in sacks (14½), tackles for loss (24½) and forced fumbles (seven) and he accomplished this despite missing two games (Kentucky, Florida Atlantic) due to injury. Jones was similarly dominant in 2011, his first on the field for Georgia after transferring from USC. Some teams are reportedly red-flagging Jones due to spinal stenosis. Multiple teams I spoke with in Indianapolis, however, told me Jones passed their medical tests.

3. Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan: While Fisher was impressive vs. Michigan State and Iowa in 2012, scouts had some reservations until a dominating performance against top competition at the Senior Bowl and a stellar performance in Indianapolis. With the foot quickness, balance and length to be a blindside pass protector, it isn't out of the question to think the more physically mature Fisher could overtake Joeckel as the top tackle on some boards.

4. Chance Warmack, OG, Alabama: Warmack didn't do much at the combine but frankly he didn't have to -- he ranks among the safest prospects in the draft. Warmack has explosive functional power as a drive blocker and has the quick feet and balance to provide stellar pass protection, as well.

5. * Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama: Milliner emphatically put to bed any concerns about his straight-line speed in 4.37 seconds at the combine, answering the only question scouts had about his game. Tough, physical and with prototypical size (6-feet, 201) for the position, Milliner is the elite pass defender in this draft and a legitimate top-five candidate.

6. * Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida: With so many talented defensive linemen playing in the SEC, Floyd didn't generate the buzz that his talents warranted until recently. Used predominately at defensive end a year ago, the 6-3, 303-pound junior was moved back inside to his more natural defensive tackle position in 2012 and stepped up his play, earning first-team all-conference honors with 46 tackles, including a team-high 13 tackles for loss. While his Gators lost the Sugar Bowl to Teddy Bridgewater and Louisville, Floyd was dynamic, sacking the mobile sophomore quarterback twice and showing scouts flashes of untapped potential.

7. * Cordarrelle Patterson , WR, Tennessee: Of this year's skill-position players, Patterson presents the biggest "wow" factor. In his first season at the FBS level, Patterson (6-2, 217) dominated the SEC to the tune of 154.83 all-purpose yards a game, easily the most of any player in the power conference. He'll need to show more of a work ethic in the NFL than he demonstrated at Tennessee but I listened to his interview at the combine with great interest and believe he may be ready.

8. Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah: All of the wrong kind of attention was heaped upon Lotulelei in Indianapolis when news broke that he may have a previously undisclosed heart condition. As such, the Pac-12 star's stock could rest in the balance of the medical grades teams give him. However, when you consider that Lotulelei posted 42 tackles, 11 tackles for loss and five sacks despite facing constant double teams (and quite a few triple teams), it is easy to understand why he ranked as my top senior defender all year long.

9. Jonathan Cooper, OG, North Carolina: More athletic than Warmack and proving considerably stronger in Indianapolis than many had given him credit for (35 reps at 225 pounds), Cooper is a legitimate top-20 candidate whose value is increased by the fact that he can also play center.

10. Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma: Having seen action at QB, DE and TE during his time at Kilgore Junior College (Texas), Johnson had already proven his athleticism. The 6-6, 303-pounder showed just how athletic he is at the combine, clocking in at 4.72 seconds in the 40 and registering a 34-inch vertical jump. With only two years at tackle, including just one on the blind side, Johnson isn't as polished as Joeckel or Fisher but may have even higher upside.

11. Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU: Having only played football for three years -- and starting just one season -- the native of Ghana is as raw as it gets. Ansah is also as physically blessed as any prospect in this draft, demonstrating remarkable straight-line speed (4.63 in the 40) and fluidity (4.26 seconds in the short shuttle), considering his 6-5, 271-pound frame. Proving athletic enough to handle converting to outside linebacker or staying at defensive end, Ansah could earn top-five consideration if teams are convinced he's committed to the game.

12. * Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State: Blessed with a quick first step, heavy hands and surprising instincts given the fact that the German native has played just five years of American football, Werner (6-3, 266) is the surest of this year's talented defensive line class. He does not have Ansah's upside but is currently a more polished and productive player, having earned the ACC's Defensive Player of the Year in 2012 with 18 tackles for loss, including 13 sacks.

13. * Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State: Possessing remarkable athleticism to go along with a rock-solid 6-2, 210-pound frame, no defensive back in the 2013 draft is in greater position to capitalize on the NFL's recent preference for bigger, stronger cornerbacks to fit press schemes than Rhodes. He intercepted eight passes over his career despite opponents largely ignoring his side of the field the past two years.

14. * Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri: Measuring in slightly smaller than expected at 6-3, 294 pounds, Richardson slipped down my board but remains one of the more intriguing defensive tackles in the 2013 class. He's the only defensive tackle I saw all year long hold up to the awesome Alabama interior offensive line, recording a game-high 14 tackles in that contest. He finished 2012 just four tackles behind linebacker Andrew Wilson as Missouri's leader with 75 stops, leading all SEC interior defensive linemen in this category.

15. * Keenan Allen, WR, California: An exceptionally highly regarded prep prospect who originally was going to sign with Nick Saban and Alabama as a safety before joining his brother (quarterback Zach Maynard) at Cal, Allen has virtually all of the physical characteristics to be a No. 1 receiver in the NFL. He is not the same caliber of athlete as Tennessee's Patterson but is a more polished player who has drawn comparisons to Green Bay's Jordy Nelson and Baltimore's Anquan Boldin for his sneaky speed, reliable hands and toughness.

16. Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington: While lacking the size and physicality of Millner or Rhodes, the 6-foot, 190-pound Trufant showcased a blend of speed and fluidity in Mobile to arguably rank as this year's top cover corner. If the last name sounds familiar, it should. Both of his older brothers -- Marcus and Isaiah -- are already cashing NFL paychecks as cornerbacks with the Seattle Seahawks and New York Jets. Desmond, in fact, matched Marcus' time in the 40 exactly, clocking in at 4.38 seconds to solidify his first-round stock.

17. Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia: Some questioned if West Virginia's spread offense made Austin look faster than he really was but in clocking in at 4.34 seconds in the 40 at the combine, he provided numerical proof of his game-breaking ability. Some will peg Austin as strictly a slot receiver at 5-9 and 174 pounds. I see him as a matchup nightmare capable of lining up at receiver, running back and returner.

18. Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia: Smith has all of the physical traits scouts are looking for at quarterback, as well as the work ethic to build upon them. He also improved his completion percentage and TD/interception ratio in each of his three starting seasons, culminating in a senior campaign in which he completed a sparkling 71.24 percent of his passes and threw 42 touchdowns against just six picks. Smith didn't always play with the anticipation one might expect given his statistics and was less than stellar in high pressure situations. This potential red flag was brought up again in Indianapolis, where Smith was good, but not great, in passing drills.

19. Matt Barkley, QB, Southern Cal: While Smith has higher upside, Barkley is the most NFL-ready of this year's QB class, having starred for four seasons in the Trojans' pro-style scheme. He needs to prove his health as a shoulder injury sidelined him for USC's final two games, kept him out of the Senior Bowl and from participating in the combine, but it is worth noting that he measured in bigger (6-3, 227) than Smith (6-2, 218), which surprised many. While Barkley's interceptions doubled in 2012, USC's pass protection wasn't nearly as reliable as it had been earlier in his career and he had to keep pace with a leaky defense that hemorrhaged points. Barkley lacks elite traits but make no mistake, he's a first-round prospect as he stands and should he dazzle at his March 27 Pro Day, he could easily wind up as the first quarterback selected in the 2013 draft.

20. * Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB, LSU: Mingo has the frame (6-4, 241 pounds) and athleticism to warrant top-10 consideration, but at this point he remains a largely unpolished product who relies on his natural tools rather than technique to make plays. Given Mingo's upside, it is easy to imagine him terrorizing NFL quarterbacks off the edge as a multi-dimensional defender. Considering his relatively pedestrian numbers (38 tackles, 8½ tackles for loss, 4½ sacks) this season, as well as the struggles of other former highly regarded LSU defensive linemen in the NFL, the general manager who selects him that high is rolling the dice.

21. * D.J. Fluker, OT, Alabama: Anyone who watched the Tide dismantle a talented Notre Dame defense in the BCS title game knows that Alabama's offensive line, including Fluker specifically, plays with great power. As such, ignore the fact that he "only" posted 21 bench-press reps at the combine. The 6-5, 339-pound Fluker shows plenty of explosion where it matters ... on the field.

22. Datone Jones, DE, UCLA: A few years ago Jones, at 6-4, 280 pounds, might have been considered a 'tweener. With defensive coordinators forced to adjust to the rapidly expanding offenses of today's NFL, however, Jones ranks as an intriguing hybrid defender who can hold up against the run as a base defensive end while beating interior lineman with his quickness if moved inside on passing downs. Jones racked up an impressive 19 tackles for loss in 2012 and has been equally impressive at the Senior Bowl and combine since.

23. Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama: With just 36 tackles, including 2½ for loss and a single sack in 2012, Williams' stat line isn't nearly as impressive as his combination of size (6-3, 323) power (30 reps) and straight-line speed (4.94). Experienced inside and out in the 3-4 alignment and projecting nicely at defensive tackle in a four-man front as well Williams is one of the safer, tougher defensive linemen in the 2013 draft.

24. * Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M: No player dropped further on my board due to his performance (or lack thereof) in Indianapolis than Moore, who proved both slower (4.95) and weaker (12 reps) than many of the prospects measuring much smaller than him (6-4, 250) at the combine. Moore has proven to be a playmaker at both defensive end and outside linebacker but the lack of preparation for the testing could be a sign that Moore's statistics were inflated by the Aggies' scheme and that he should have returned for his senior season.

25. * Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame: With soft hands and excellent body control, Eifert is the prototypical security blanket and he eased concerns about his straight-line speed with a very respectable 4.68 time in the 40 at 6-6, 250 pounds. Eifert isn't the second coming of Jimmy Graham but he has the length and speed to be a challenging matchup and is experienced lining up wide as well as in the traditional in-line role.

26. Kenny Vaccaro, FS, Texas: Instinctive, athletic and tough, Vaccaro has many of the traits scouts are looking for, though he showed less than ideal speed at the combine (4.63) and isn't a natural ball-hawk. He does have the versatility teams need in today's game, as Vaccaro has starred as an in-the-box run-stuffer, single-high cover safety and even demonstrated the fluidity to handle nickel responsibilities. He carries some character red-flags, however, which teams will want to investigate.

27. Kawann Short, DT, Purdue: Snap-to-snap consistency has been an issue with Short throughout much of his career but he has also proven to be a natural playmaker, averaging 16 tackles for loss, 6½ sacks and three blocked kicks over the past three years. He then backed that up with a stellar week of practice at the Senior Bowl, legitimizing his first-round grade.

28. Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon: At a rangy 6-6 and 248 pounds, Jordan's length and explosiveness off the edge make him a matchup nightmare for opponents and he proved every bit the must-see athlete at the combine, as expected. Unfortunately, while this Jordan might be able to "fly" in shorts like Mike, he hasn't been as productive as his athleticism would indicate. Jordan struggled with various injuries throughout his career and this troubling tendency again arose at the combine where he announced that he would have to undergo surgery before the draft to repair a torn labrum.

29. Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas: Before the start of his senior season Wilson lost his head coach (Bobby Petrino) to scandal, his offensive coordinator (Garrick McGee) to another program (Alabama-Birmingham) and top three receivers to the NFL, so I'll excuse the fact that he wasn't quite as productive in 2012 as he was as a junior. He was impressive, however, during the all-important Senior Bowl practices and during the combine interview and throwing sessions. Wilson has the arm talent and both the physical and mental toughness to be a successful starter in the NFL.

30. *Robert Woods, WR, USC: Measuring in at a rock-solid 6-feet and 201 pounds and performing very well in the interviews and athletic drills at the combine, it was easy to see why scouts view Woods as one of the safest receiver prospects in this draft class. Woods isn't flashy but he's intelligent enough to handle playing virtually any of the receiver positions immediately, a rarity for a rookie.

31. Alex Okafor, DE, Texas: Despite being the obvious focus of every opponent's blocking scheme once talented teammate Jackson Jeffcoat was lost for the season with a torn pectoral muscle Oct. 13, Okafor earned first-team All-Big 12 accolades for the second consecutive season, posting a career-high 12½ sacks, including 4½ vs. Oregon State in the Alamo Bowl. Okafor showed better than expected burst off the snap and his trademark active, heavy hands to wreak havoc during Senior Bowl practices.

32. *Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford: Ertz proved to be quite a playmaker for the Cardinal but wasn't as impressive as I anticipated in Indianapolis, measuring in with shorter than ideal arms (31¾ inches) and proving less explosive (4.76 seconds in the 40, 30½-inch vertical jump) than his game tape indicated. His ability to threaten the seam keeps him just inside the first round on my board.

Second tier

33. * Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State: In terms of pure talent, Hankins deserves to be ranked among the top 20 prospects in the country. Unfortunately, his motor too often appears to be in neutral rather than overdrive, something he didn't address well enough for my taste on or off the turf at the combine and is slipping down my board as a result.

34. * Kevin Minter, ILB, LSU: Instinctive and physical, Minter was the most dependable player on an LSU defense chock full of prospective NFL talent. With a 4.81-second time in the 40, I have reservations about his ability to remain on the field on third down in the NFL.

35. Larry Warford, OG, Kentucky: Overshadowed in this class by Warmack and Cooper, the powerful Warford is a legitimate top-50 prospect in his own right.

36. * Matt Elam, SS, Florida: An instinctive defender with a knack for making the big play in big games, everything about Elam's game is big ... except his 5-10, 208-pound frame.

37. Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame: Te'o answered the tough off-field questions sufficiently for my taste but, like Minter, his lack of straight-line speed likely makes him a two-down run defender in the NFL.

38. * DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson: A polished route-runner who plays with speed and physicality, Hopkins is earning first-round grades from some teams.

39. John Jenkins, DT, Georgia: Jenkins did not produce elite stats (50 tackles, two tackles for loss, one sack) but at 6-4, 346 pounds Jenkins certainly has the beef to clog running lanes and is experienced at both nose guard and defensive end in the 3-4 alignment.

40. Jonathan Cyprien, SS, Florida International: The ultra-physical Cyprien was dynamic in Mobile, erasing my previous concerns about his level of competition. A pulled hamstring in Indianapolis kept him from working out and thus, my concern over his straight-line speed remains.

41. *Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama: Nursing a slightly torn hamstring, Lacy wasn't able to work out at the combine. If he can prove his speed at his March 13 Pro Day, however, he could join former teammates Mark Ingram and Trent Richardson as the top backs of their respective draft classes.

42. * Da'Rick Rogers, WR, Tennessee Tech: Rogers' significant off-field issues are a concern but he's clearly a first-round talent. I was impressed with the accountability he took in his interview at the combine and even more impressed with the all-around athleticism he demonstrated in timed drills and his positional workout.

43. Justin Pugh, OL, Syracuse: Whether he winds up remaining at left tackle or moving inside to guard, Pugh has the athleticism to go along with his 6-5, 307-pound frame.

44. Khaseem Greene , OLB, Rutgers: A safety turned linebacker, Greene is a turnover machine (played a role in 24 turnovers over his career), and a future NFL star as a 4-3 weakside linebacker.

45. * Alec Ogletree, ILB, Georgia: Ogletree has the athleticism to warrant top-15 consideration but his track record of inappropriate behavior is alarming.

46. * Eric Reid, FS, LSU: Terrific in run support but questionable instincts and fluidity could make him a liability in coverage in the NFL.

47. * Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee: Hunter dropped too many big passes for my taste in 2012 but he's shockingly fluid for a 6-4, 196-pounder and could emerge as a Pro Bowl talent with greater concentration.

48. Phillip Thomas, FS, Fresno State: Thomas led the country with eight interceptions in 2012, returning three of them for scores. Instinctive and aggressive, he is the top ball-hawk of a strong safety class.

49. Johnthan Banks, CB, Mississippi State: Banks ran poorly at the combine (4.61) but has the length, physicality and aggression to be successful in a press scheme. His 16 career interceptions largely against SEC competition should not suddenly be forgotten because of a poor 40.

50. Cornellius Carradine , DE, Florida State: After tearing his ACL in November, 'Tank' Carradine will first have to prove his health to earn this lofty grade but the talent and effort on tape is enough to warrant taking the risk.

Just missed the cut

51. Margus Hunt, DE, SMU

52. EJ Manuel, QB, Florida State

53. Quinton Patton, WR, Louisiana Tech

54. * David Amerson, CB, North Carolina State

55. Arthur Brown, OLB, Kansas State

56. Sylvester Williams, DT, North Carolina

57. Terrance Williams, WR, Baylor

58. Terron Armstread, OT, Arkansas Pine-Bluff

59. Vance McDonald, TE, Rice

60. Markus Wheaton, WR, Oregon State

61. *David Bakhtiari, OT, Colorado

62. *Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU

63. Brandon Williams, DT, Missouri Southern

64. *Menelik Watson, OT, Florida State
 
Give him props for sticking to his guns with Nassib, but I think he's way off on this one.
Have been working on QB comps for the 2013 class and in terms of overall effectiveness as a QB, I think Nassib belongs with these guys:Kyle OrtonChad HenneKellen ClemensBrady QuinnRyan NassibHe might be a passable backup, but I think the Clemens comp is closest. I'd expect to see him drafted in the 3rd round, give or take a few picks on either side. Would be gobsmacked if he went in the first.
 
Mike Mayock alters position rankings for 2013 NFL Draft

By Mike Mayock

Offensive Skill Positions Excerpt:

Quarterback

1. Geno Smith, West Virginia

2. Matt Barkley, USC

3. Mike Glennon, NC State

4. Ryan Nassib, Syracuse

5. Landry Jones, Oklahoma

Running Back

1. Eddie Lacy, Alabama

2. Montee Ball, Wisconsin

3. Andre Ellington, Clemson

4. Giovani Bernard, North Carolina

5. Marcus Lattimore, South Carolina

Wide Receiver

1. Cordarrelle Patterson, Tennessee

2. Keenan Allen, Cal

3. Tavon Austin, West Virginia

4. Quinton Patton, Louisiana Tech

5. DeAndre Hopkins, Clemson

New entry: Hopkins

Rise: Austin (4), Patton (5)

Out: Terrance Williams, Baylor (3)

Tight End

1. Tyler Eifert, Notre Dame

2. Zach Ertz, Stanford

3. Gavin Escobar, San Diego State

4. Travis Kelce, Cincinnati

5. Vance McDonald, Rice

New entry: McDonald

Out: Jordan Reed, Florida (5)
 
interesting to see mayock put ball #2 after combine. as a wisconsinite it's nice to see but i don't think he's all that deserving. he is a good all around back, but just doesn't do anything great imo.

 
The Shutdown 50: Markus Wheaton, Oregon State WR

By Doug Farrar

With the 2012 NFL season in the books, and the scouting combine in the rearview miror, it's time to take a closer look at the 50 players we think will be the biggest difference-makers at the next level from this draft class. To that end, we're happy to start this year's Shutdown 50 scouting reports (Hint: There may actually be more than 50). You can read last year's group here. The final 50 players listed were chosen and ranked based on game tape, combine results, overall positional value, and attributes and liabilities on and off the field.

50. Markus Wheaton, Oregon State WR

We begin this year's group with Oregon State receiver Markus Wheaton. In Mike Reilly's high-falutin' offense (and without a top-tier quarterback throwing him passes), Wheaton made his name as one of the most productive college receivers at any level in the last two seasons. After a 2011 campaign in which he caught 73 balls for 986 yards and only one touchdown (shades of Keyshawn Johnson!), Wheaton blew it up in 2012, getting a little closer to the goal line and grabbing 91 balls for 1,244 yards and 11 scores.

After a very impressive week at the Senior Bowl (ask Desmond Trufant about that), Wheaton started to establish himself as the kind of player who could possibly find his way to "1A" status on an NFL team. The question is, in what systems can a route-savvy, 5-foot-11, 190-pound player with a good sense of the game take it over the top?

Pros: Slightly-built receiver who gets off press coverage more with adept foot-fakes and jukes than hand-fighting, but does so very well. Extremely savvy in traffic; Wheaton knows how to get open in small spaces. Natural and trained yards-after-catch receiver -- once Wheaton gets himself righted, he immediately faces his defender and looks to break free. Doesn't need a straight line to gain extra yards. Very good route-runner, especially in the short-to-intermediate game. Conversant with slants, drags, slants, crosses, and quick outs, but isn't as dependent on Oregon State's quick passing game as some would have you believe — he'll get open downfield off coverage. Beats trail corners down the sideline with good hand movements, and isn't afraid to sell his body out by jumping for a catch. Very quick at breaking into cuts, making single coverage harder when he's your assignment.

Not an overtly physical receiver, but will play that way when necessary. Tracks the ball into his hands on deeper passes. Fast player off the line who has an extra gear downfield. Familiar with route combinations and has a great sense of timing when creating openings with other receivers. Gets downfield very quickly from screens and quick passes behind the line of scrimmage. Good runner on sweeps. Can play outside, in the middle in trips packages, and in slot, though his skill set seems best attuned for an outside role. Would seem a natural to run option routes because of route awareness and quickness in short areas. Skinny legs, but could probably put on 10 pounds of muscle without losing too much functional speed.

Cons: Most of Wheaton's yards after catch come before contact; he's simply not big enough to break tackles on a regular basis. That issue will most likely become more prominent in the NFL.

For all his downfield speed, doesn't separate at the finish line as much as you'd like, though this could be partially a function of scheme and quarterback. Tends to gain deep separation with push-offs as opposed to burner speed. Will absolutely struggle against "2-man" coverage schemes at the NFL level against bigger cornerbacks who are quick in press coverage and recovery speed.

Despite his stats, didn't face double coverage (especially deep safeties) on a regular basis because defenses were dealing with frequent spread formations and backfield action. Gets re-directed too easily in space by aggressive defenders. Not a blocker at all. Has had issues with drops in the past.

Conclusion: The Brandon Lloyd comp is a tough one if you look at Lloyd's wildly inconsistent career, but I think Wheaton could have a similar impact as Lloyd at his best has had in the NFL. He's not quite as fast as the Mike Wallaces and DeSean Jacksons of the world, but with his understanding of the route tree, he doesn't have to be. In the right kind of system, especially one in which West Coast offense principles lead the way and are backed up by vertical concepts, Wheaton could be a multi-year asset -- if not an outright star.

He may not pass the ultimate size/speed/strength tests, but game tape quickly tells you that Markus Wheaton's productivity over the last two seasons is no fluke. The NFL transition is scheme-dependent to a degree, and that keeps him out of the first round. In the end, Wheaton is most likely a better second receiver, but as much of a passing league as the NFL is these days, that's far from a pejorative designation.

NFL comparison: Brandon Lloyd, New England Patriots (2012), Denver Broncos (2010).
 
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That was awesome. I love #6 on Oklahoma on Austin's TD run from inside the 5. He was about a foot away from Austin and got so faked out he didn't even try for him.
 
Greg Cosell is active on Twitter today (just a few of his tweets):mad:gregcosell

Later today will start my evals of college players. Been watching much tape with more to do but have formed some ideas. Interesting draft.
Here's next question - Who are the RO QBs in this draft? Will there be more in 2013? Can concept be effective w/o QB who's viable runner?
Someone mentioned Matt Scott. Very intriguing prospect. Certainly can run RO. Did it for Rich Rod at ARZ. Quick compact delivery w/accuracy.
Scott up to 215 lbs. Also liked his pocket toughness. Willing to look down gun barrel + deliver. Quick feet, quick athlete, snap delivery.
What I find as interesting as RO is how will A Tavon Austin be utilized in NFL? Will be play 50-60 snaps, or just 20-25? What's his role?
I will start w/Floyd. So far my favorite player on tape. Great hips, nimble. Played thru + around blocks. Closing burst. Tackle for loss DT.
Like Floyd more than Lotulelei, regardless of heart issues. But Star light athletic feet w/excellent short area quickness + closing burst.
Patterson will be drafted high due to size + athletic tools. Not as explosive running routes as he is with ball in his hands. Lack of exp.
One thing to always remember. No one comes into NFL a finished product. What can be coached + what can't. That's key question in evaluation.
Hunter also intriguing. More of speed cut route runner than throttle down, in-and-out of break rte runner. Stride length + build up speed.
 
'Faust said:


30. New York Jets (via trade with Atlanta Falcons): EJ Manuel, quarterback, Florida State

Another trade! This is the beauty of a mock draft in February or March; you can do these. I've had Manuel listed as a first-round pick since December, and I think his stock will rise even more after his Pro Day. One of the few quarterbacks in this draft who's played in a pro-style offense and could be effective in new read-option offenses, he's a bit more versatile than some of

the other prospects.

He's 6-4, 240 pounds, can move, and is an all-around wonderful kid. I know Mark Sanchez is due to make a lot of money next year, but I think Manuel could make a lot of sense in Jets green. If the Jets don't roll the dice and take him at 9, I wouldn't be surprised if they maneuvered a bit to get him somewhere at the end of the first round.


I am glad that I am not only person who thinks Manuel could go this high.

 
People said that Doug Martin wasn't "great" at 1 thing but was a good all around player before last years season and I think the same could be said for Montee Ball. I am NOT saying they are the same but the transition seems easier with a solid skill set at basically everything. I am also pretty high on Ball so that could be why I like him but I got him #3 in the RB category for my personal rankings (behind Lacy and Gio).

 
People said that Doug Martin wasn't "great" at 1 thing but was a good all around player before last years season and I think the same could be said for Montee Ball. I am NOT saying they are the same but the transition seems easier with a solid skill set at basically everything. I am also pretty high on Ball so that could be why I like him but I got him #3 in the RB category for my personal rankings (behind Lacy and Gio).
Hah I've been saying the exact same thing!The only real knock I see on Ball is that he doesn't enough experience in pass protection.
 
People said that Doug Martin wasn't "great" at 1 thing but was a good all around player before last years season and I think the same could be said for Montee Ball. I am NOT saying they are the same but the transition seems easier with a solid skill set at basically everything. I am also pretty high on Ball so that could be why I like him but I got him #3 in the RB category for my personal rankings (behind Lacy and Gio).
Hah I've been saying the exact same thing!The only real knock I see on Ball is that he doesn't enough experience in pass protection.
Doug Martin's functional size is quite a bit bigger than Ball's (an inch and a half shorter and nine pounds heavier is the equivalent of about a 15 pound difference if they were both Martin's height). Martin's also a full tenth of a second faster. And has the quickness of a much smaller back, while Ball is pretty average.Ball's got great vision and had a great line. He'll probably be a solid backup in the NFL. But I don't think he's in Martin's class.
 
People said that Doug Martin wasn't "great" at 1 thing but was a good all around player before last years season and I think the same could be said for Montee Ball. I am NOT saying they are the same but the transition seems easier with a solid skill set at basically everything. I am also pretty high on Ball so that could be why I like him but I got him #3 in the RB category for my personal rankings (behind Lacy and Gio).
Hah I've been saying the exact same thing!The only real knock I see on Ball is that he doesn't enough experience in pass protection.
Doug Martin's functional size is quite a bit bigger than Ball's (an inch and a half shorter and nine pounds heavier is the equivalent of about a 15 pound difference if they were both Martin's height). Martin's also a full tenth of a second faster. And has the quickness of a much smaller back, while Ball is pretty average.Ball's got great vision and had a great line. He'll probably be a solid backup in the NFL. But I don't think he's in Martin's class.
Ball reminds me of Beanie Wells
 
Eckel: Grading the NFL draft prospects at tight end, wide receiver

By Mark Eckel/The Times

How good is Notre Dame tight end Tyler Eifert?

When the Fighting Irish took on Alabama in the BCS Championship, the Crimson Tide put their best cornerback, Dee Milliner, a likely top 10 selection in next month’s draft, on Eifert.

“Alabama knew he was the guy they had to take away,” one top college scout said. “So they put their top cover guy on him.”

Eifert was considered the best tight end in the draft by most scouts before the NFL Combine last week, and he then proved it with an impressive workout that included a 40 time of 4.68 for the 6-foot-6, 251-pounder.

Now, there are some who think he might be the best receiver in the draft, period.

“Keenan Allen (of California) is up there,” a personnel man said of the draft’s top wide receiver. “But I’ll put Eifert up there with any of them. This kid is good, real good.”

Eifert is considered by some the best tight end coming into the draft since Maryland’s Vernon Davis went No. 6 overall to the San Francisco 49ers in the 2006 draft.

“(Detroit’s Brandon) Pettigrew was pretty good coming out (of Oklahoma in 2009), but this kid is better all-around then he was,” a scout said. “This guy is the real deal. He can run. He can catch. He runs good routes. He’s not a great blocker, but he’s getting better at it, and he’ll get even better yet.”

Eifert’s best year in South Bend was his junior year when he caught 63 passes for 865 yards and five touchdowns. Last year, as the Irish became more of a run-first offense his numbers slipped to 50 receptions, 685 yards and four touchdowns.

“He’ll probably go somewhere in the middle of the first round, somewhere in the teens,” a scout said. “And somebody is going to get a real good player there.”

The only other tight end getting a lot of looks is Stanford’s Zach Ertz, a 6-6, 249-pounder, who ran 4.76 at the NFL Combine.

Ertz might also find his name being called by commissioner Roger Goodell at the end of the first round.

“I guess it depends on the team,” a scout said. “To me, he’s a big, possession wide receiver. That’s what he is. You put him out there, and it’s like having three wide receivers on the field. He can’t block at all. He has just average speed for the position, but he does run great routes, and there is something to be said for that.”

Here’s a look at the top wide receivers and tight end in this year’s draft with a scout’s take on each of them.

• Keenan Allen, California, 6-3, 205 — “The most polished of the receivers, the most ready to play of all of them. He will be a pretty high pick, and he should be.”

• Cordarrelle Patterson, Tennessee, 6-3, 205 — “He’s explosive. He’s dynamic. He runs consistent 4.4s, I’m just not sure how smart he is. You’re going to have to keep it simple for him. But the kid is really dynamic.”

• Robert Woods, USC, 6-1, 190 — “He’s more quick, than fast. But I like him. He makes plays. He’s an ideal slot guy.”

• Tavon Austin, West Virginia, 5-9, 174 — “He’s kind of like DeSean Jackson. The difference is they use DeSean deep. With this kid, they throw him short stuff and let him go. Again, he’s perfect as a slot guy to get away from press (coverage). He’ll probably go first round, but in my opinion, he’s a second-round pick.”

• DeAndre Hopkins, Clemson, 5-11, 205 — “Some people like him more than I do. He’s a classic possession receiver. He’s just not fast enough.” He ran a 4.57 at the NFL Combine.

• Quinton Patton, Louisiana Tech, 6-2, 195 — “I’m not a big fan. He’s just a guy. The best he’s going to be is a No. 3 for you, if that.”

• Terrance Williams, Baylor, 6-2, 205 — “He has some ability, and his speed (4.52 at the NFL Combine) is deceptive. He’s just not ready. He needs a lot of work. If you’re a team that can wait, he may turn in to something pretty good.”

WHAT THE LOCALS MIGHT DO

Eagles: While they could use a big wide receiver, there are many more pressing needs, especially on defense.

Giants: The team is pretty set with Hakeem Nicks, Victor Cruz and Rueben Randle as their top three.

Jets: This is a major need. Don’t be surprised if the Jets don’t go for a receiver early in the draft.
 
Eckel: Grading the NFL draft prospects at tight end, wide receiver By Mark Eckel/The Times

• Keenan Allen, California, 6-3, 205 — "The most polished of the receivers, the most ready to play of all of them. He will be a pretty high pick, and he should be."• Cordarrelle Patterson, Tennessee, 6-3, 205 — "He's explosive. He's dynamic. He runs consistent 4.4s, I'm just not sure how smart he is. You're going to have to keep it simple for him. But the kid is really dynamic."• DeAndre Hopkins, Clemson, 5-11, 205 — "Some people like him more than I do. He's a classic possession receiver. He's just not fast enough." He ran a 4.57 at the NFL Combine.• Quinton Patton, Louisiana Tech, 6-2, 195 — "I'm not a big fan. He's just a guy. The best he's going to be is a No. 3 for you, if that."
I guess it is hard to grade these kids properly when he has no idea what their height and weights are.Allen 6' 2" 206Patterson 6'1.7" 216DeAndre Hopkins 6' 1" 214Patton 6' 204
 
Tavon Austin, WR- I think he turns into a very good pro slot WR/All-purpose WR. I'm picturing a better rookie season Eddie Royal and a similar look/upside to that rookie season in Denver. The resume dating back to HS and at WVU is impressive and he's just settling in to WR and still developing his WR game, but for an NFL slot WR there may not be anyone smoother, faster and with a quicker twitch in small spaces than him. Seems like a great PPR WR. He needs to be in these conversations for top 2013 WRs though.
Whole year early than the masses on this one!!! Love it when a plan comes together. I'm glad he's getting due credit and can't wait to see him on the field. This time last year, outside of Morgantown and to WVU Alums, he was little known in the dynasty world. He truly is one of those players with elite all purpose talent on the field. No matter where he goes I'm pretty sure he's going to do some above average NFL stuff within 2-3 years (Cobb). If he goes to a better team (luxury pick type) with a HC/OC/QB that makes it a point to see what he can do, he's worth even more!Where is he shaping up like in dynasty rookie drafts so far?
 
Tavon Austin, WR- I think he turns into a very good pro slot WR/All-purpose WR. I'm picturing a better rookie season Eddie Royal and a similar look/upside to that rookie season in Denver. The resume dating back to HS and at WVU is impressive and he's just settling in to WR and still developing his WR game, but for an NFL slot WR there may not be anyone smoother, faster and with a quicker twitch in small spaces than him. Seems like a great PPR WR. He needs to be in these conversations for top 2013 WRs though.
Whole year early than the masses on this one!!! Love it when a plan comes together. I'm glad he's getting due credit and can't wait to see him on the field. This time last year, outside of Morgantown and to WVU Alums, he was little known in the dynasty world. He truly is one of those players with elite all purpose talent on the field. No matter where he goes I'm pretty sure he's going to do some above average NFL stuff within 2-3 years (Cobb). If he goes to a better team (luxury pick type) with a HC/OC/QB that makes it a point to see what he can do, he's worth even more!Where is he shaping up like in dynasty rookie drafts so far?
It's looking like he's the 1.05 or 1.06 right now.
 
Tavon Austin, WR- I think he turns into a very good pro slot WR/All-purpose WR. I'm picturing a better rookie season Eddie Royal and a similar look/upside to that rookie season in Denver. The resume dating back to HS and at WVU is impressive and he's just settling in to WR and still developing his WR game, but for an NFL slot WR there may not be anyone smoother, faster and with a quicker twitch in small spaces than him. Seems like a great PPR WR. He needs to be in these conversations for top 2013 WRs though.
Whole year early than the masses on this one!!! Love it when a plan comes together. I'm glad he's getting due credit and can't wait to see him on the field. This time last year, outside of Morgantown and to WVU Alums, he was little known in the dynasty world. He truly is one of those players with elite all purpose talent on the field. No matter where he goes I'm pretty sure he's going to do some above average NFL stuff within 2-3 years (Cobb). If he goes to a better team (luxury pick type) with a HC/OC/QB that makes it a point to see what he can do, he's worth even more!Where is he shaping up like in dynasty rookie drafts so far?
It's looking like he's the 1.05 or 1.06 right now.
I think he's more situation-dependent than others. If he goes to a spot where they can fully utilize his talents, he could be top 3 pick. If he goes to the Jets, not so much.
 

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