Crazysight
Footballguy
486 pages on this ####up. 486!! Unreal!
Had a guy at my work high as a kite but it was from heroine. GF a co worker is naive as hell about him and keeps trusting him. Dude wasted her whole tax return on drugs and brought up another guy into it as an excuse to get high and GF not know about it. Another Coworker of mine who went to school with him told me the dude isn't loyal and trying to hook up with her (She's engaged) among other girls. Dude was lucky my last Seafood manager was transferred last year or he'd have ended up being fired sooner then he did. Back in May he didn't show up for 3 straight days of work and we found out he was arrested with dope on him. Rehab and everything lost his job. A lot of co workers were thrilled he got canned but now the GF acts as if we're all the enemy. Such a horrible situation all around.Had a guy working for me who had this happen almost monthly. And it was seemingly random each time.
To make sure you land him is the only reason to trade for him.Why trade for him? He's getting released.
Because the site owner asked him not to do it again, and in an act of defiance he did it again.I, as an unbiased observer, don’t get the stance @Joe Bryant is taking. So an NFL player can’t be called a moron on this site? If that’s the call, so be it. But it seems it’s being enforced in this thread only then, when a player is (supposedly) being released for yet unknown reasons. Doesn’t sound like he’s failed a test, so he’s not being called a moron for being an addict. So why is calling Gordon a moron worthy of “some time off?” Seems ridiculous. And no, I’m not an alias.
7th round pick might be worth it. so many of them are cut anywaysTo make sure you land him is the only reason to trade for him.
But I am shocked anyone can be interested......come on. Something is obviously wrong.
Also if you trade for him you have him under his cheap rookie contract. Since he’s not subject to waivers once he’s released he’s a free agent and then you also have to outbid other teams and perhaps pay him a good amount more than he’s makjng now.To make sure you land him is the only reason to trade for him.
But I am shocked anyone can be interested......come on. Something is obviously wrong.
My guess is that every team (if 5 are really interested) would be offering the infamous "conditional 7th rounder" for him. Makes you think someone would have to go a round higher to get him?7th round pick might be worth it. so many of them are cut anyways
ETA could even be a conditional 7th rounder
Money, I guess. If teams think it's not about the drugs and just about other issues....wouldn't Gordon essentially be a FA? Trading for him gives the team a year to look at him for a minimal amount.Why trade for him? He's getting released.
I don’t get it that *you think* he has a mental illness? You would be correct. I guess if *you think* he has a mental illness, then it’s most definitely galling to call him a moron.You clearly don't get it.
There is a difference between calling someone's actions moronic and calling someone a moron.
It is additionally galling to call someone a moron because they are an addict and/or (I think "and") have mental illness.
I doubt he's been tested already, but who knows with whatever stage of the drug program he is currently in.If it were a drug thing he probably wouldn’t be traded...because, you know, he would be suspended.
Exactly, a conditional 7th rounder based on him being on the team until the end of the season, is a completely no risk way to make sure you get the guy.7th round pick might be worth it. so many of them are cut anyways
ETA could even be a conditional 7th rounder
I have to figure teams would have a good idea if he was going to fail any future tests.I doubt he's been tested already, but who knows with whatever stage of the drug program he is currently in.
You are focusing on the wrong part of my post.I don’t get it that *you think* he has a mental illness? You would be correct. I guess if *you think* he has a mental illness, then it’s most definitely galling to call him a moron.
Without knowing what has actually transpired for the Browns to part ways, I think it’s galling to ban someone for calling Gordon a moron.
Now if word comes out that he showed up high as a kite, doing blow off of Hue’s desk, dressed only in his underwear, then calling him a moron would likely be inappropriate. But if he were simply late to eight meetings and didn’t know the playbook, then I’d say it’s fair to call him a moron, no?
Bud, if you find it "galling" to tell somebody to go post on some other fantasy football message board for 2 weeks... I really want to live your life. No joke.I don’t get it that *you think* he has a mental illness? You would be correct. I guess if *you think* he has a mental illness, then it’s most definitely galling to call him a moron.
Without knowing what has actually transpired for the Browns to part ways, I think it’s galling to ban someone for calling Gordon a moron.
Now if word comes out that he showed up high as a kite, doing blow off of Hue’s desk, dressed only in his underwear, then calling him a moron would likely be inappropriate. But if he were simply late to eight meetings and didn’t know the playbook, then I’d say it’s fair to call him a moron, no?
Because it’s a privately owned site and they can do what they want?I, as an unbiased observer, don’t get the stance @Joe Bryant is taking. So an NFL player can’t be called a moron on this site? If that’s the call, so be it. But it seems it’s being enforced in this thread only then, when a player is (supposedly) being released for yet unknown reasons. Doesn’t sound like he’s failed a test, so he’s not being called a moron for being an addict. So why is calling Gordon a moron worthy of “some time off?” Seems ridiculous. And no, I’m not an alias.
Drop it.I don’t get it that *you think* he has a mental illness? You would be correct. I guess if *you think* he has a mental illness, then it’s most definitely galling to call him a moron.
Without knowing what has actually transpired for the Browns to part ways, I think it’s galling to ban someone for calling Gordon a moron.
Now if word comes out that he showed up high as a kite, doing blow off of Hue’s desk, dressed only in his underwear, then calling him a moron would likely be inappropriate. But if he were simply late to eight meetings and didn’t know the playbook, then I’d say it’s fair to call him a moron, no?
I think his leases in the NFL are about to expire. It is not worth the trouble anymore. It is a disruption.Hoping the Browns had a knee jerk reaction to him being late and didn't like his explanation for the injury. Someone in the front office taking trade calls may be thinking they acted hastily, but the damage is done. Trade him, release him, but give him a new lease on his career.
Even up for Martavis BryantGotta wonder what the asking price is. 5th rounder? 6th rounder? 7th?
Agree, but I would think that the sensation for an uber-confident NFL exec who scooped up Gordon for peanuts would be pretty similar to a fantasy owner this season who got Gordon for basically nothing at the end of a fantasy draft. You thought you were getting a steal. That feeling is why I believe that Gordon's got another strike left... if only one.I think his leases in the NFL are about to expire. It is not worth the trouble anymore. It is a disruption.
Expire in Cle, yesI think his leases in the NFL are about to expire. It is not worth the trouble anymore. It is a disruption.
Because trading for him gets him on his rookie deal + RFA for next year. Once he’s released he’s a FA and presumably subject to a bidding war.Why trade for him? He's getting released.
Maybe, maybe not. Get him on a rookie contract for a year at the cost of a conditional late round pick? If no suspension is looming and the Browns just said enough, that's a pretty tasty propositionI think his leases in the NFL are about to expire. It is not worth the trouble anymore. It is a disruption.
Bidding war. Yeah. He will be lucky if anyone signs him for the minimum.Because trading for him gets him on his rookie deal + RFA for next year. Once he’s released he’s a FA and presumably subject to a bidding war.
If the reports are true that 5 teams already are inquiring about trading real assets for him, why wouldn’t that hold true when the cost is nothing other than cap space?Bidding war. Yeah. He will be lucky if anyone signs him for the minimum.
I don't believe the reports.If the reports are true that 5 teams already are inquiring about trading real assets for him, why wouldn’t that hold true when the cost is nothing other than cap space?
I don't think we know the entire story and my bet is the entire story includes enough facts so that the Browns simply could not trust Josh Gordon at all anymore. I think it is more than being late to meetings or getting injured at a promo shoot. I would further bet that these calls from teams are primarily to find out what those facts are, not necessarily to engage in hard trade talks. Whether the Browns choose to disclose the facts or not, I don't know, but it doesn't surprise me at all that other teams are calling to try to get the clear picture.Hoping the Browns had a knee jerk reaction to him being late and didn't like his explanation for the injury. Someone in the front office taking trade calls may be thinking they acted hastily, but the damage is done. Trade him, release him, but give him a new lease on his career.
If, and of course it's a big if considering his tenuous status in the league, but if there isn't a failed drug test, I bet he'll be on someone's roster for week 3.I don't think we know the entire story and my bet is the entire story includes enough facts so that the Browns simply could not trust Josh Gordon at all anymore. I think it is more than being late to meetings or getting injured at a promo shoot. I would further bet that these calls from teams are primarily to find out what those facts are, not necessarily to engage in hard trade talks. Whether the Browns choose to disclose the facts or not, I don't know, but it doesn't surprise me at all that other teams are calling to try to get the clear picture.
Yes. Soulfly'sIf, and of course it's a big if considering his tenuous status in the league, but if there isn't a failed drug test, I bet he'll be on someone's roster for week 3.
You're exactly right. The teams are just doing their due diligence.I don't think we know the entire story and my bet is the entire story includes enough facts so that the Browns simply could not trust Josh Gordon at all anymore. I think it is more than being late to meetings or getting injured at a promo shoot. I would further bet that these calls from teams are primarily to find out what those facts are, not necessarily to engage in hard trade talks. Whether the Browns choose to disclose the facts or not, I don't know, but it doesn't surprise me at all that other teams are calling to try to get the clear picture.
I dunno, if it gets him off the Browns it could be genius.He's definitely a moron for being late to several team meetings and getting hurt at a promotional shoot after all the chances the team gave him.
I’m a terrible person. From the moment I heard the news I’ve been looking forward to reading SF’s spin.Yes. Soulfly's
I appreciate your candor, and have similar sentiments about making horrible mistakes in my twenties.Plenty of people pulling for Josh as a person, not just an athlete. Crying as I type this, knowing it all too well.
eta* Meaning: I know what it's like to have kicked away your twenties when opportunities were available