Crazysight
Footballguy
486 pages on this ####up. 486!! Unreal!
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WR Josh Gordon, KC (1 Viewer)
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I was being generous when I said he may last till week 8.
Dude needs to simply focus on getting his life together. The NFL is moving on from Josh Gordon.....really soon. Things will come to light really fast. I will be shocked if he get’s picked up. And if he does.....he will not last.
Something is up. And unfortunately....he has a serious sickness that is called drug addiction. The pressures of being a professional athlete is something he simply can’t handle in his fragile state.
It’s too bad. Immense talent. But he needs to stay clean......and it seems he can’t. It is a powerful disease and destroys lives.
Dude needs to simply focus on getting his life together. The NFL is moving on from Josh Gordon.....really soon. Things will come to light really fast. I will be shocked if he get’s picked up. And if he does.....he will not last.
Something is up. And unfortunately....he has a serious sickness that is called drug addiction. The pressures of being a professional athlete is something he simply can’t handle in his fragile state.
It’s too bad. Immense talent. But he needs to stay clean......and it seems he can’t. It is a powerful disease and destroys lives.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Had a guy at my work high as a kite but it was from heroine. GF a co worker is naive as hell about him and keeps trusting him. Dude wasted her whole tax return on drugs and brought up another guy into it as an excuse to get high and GF not know about it. Another Coworker of mine who went to school with him told me the dude isn't loyal and trying to hook up with her (She's engaged) among other girls. Dude was lucky my last Seafood manager was transferred last year or he'd have ended up being fired sooner then he did. Back in May he didn't show up for 3 straight days of work and we found out he was arrested with dope on him. Rehab and everything lost his job. A lot of co workers were thrilled he got canned but now the GF acts as if we're all the enemy. Such a horrible situation all around.
This isn't saying Josh is doing dope but I know how the Browns as an organization probably feel about this. Hope he gets out of football and just focuses on himself mental and physical. And by no means a detractor of pot wished it was legalized as I've seen too many people I know lose their life because of these drug dealing pushing Drs who send them hope with opioids and get addicted. Cannabis when used correctly and acting as an adult about it can be very positive.
To make sure you land him is the only reason to trade for him.
But I am shocked anyone can be interested......come on. Something is obviously wrong.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Because the site owner asked him not to do it again, and in an act of defiance he did it again.
I don’t see it as a big loss.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
7th round pick might be worth it. so many of them are cut anyways
ETA could even be a conditional 7th rounder
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Also if you trade for him you have him under his cheap rookie contract. Since he’s not subject to waivers once he’s released he’s a free agent and then you also have to outbid other teams and perhaps pay him a good amount more than he’s makjng now.
pinequick
Footballguy
My guess is that every team (if 5 are really interested) would be offering the infamous "conditional 7th rounder" for him. Makes you think someone would have to go a round higher to get him?
Thunderlips
Footballguy
Money, I guess. If teams think it's not about the drugs and just about other issues....wouldn't Gordon essentially be a FA? Trading for him gives the team a year to look at him for a minimal amount.
I don’t get it that *you think* he has a mental illness? You would be correct. I guess if *you think* he has a mental illness, then it’s most definitely galling to call him a moron.
Without knowing what has actually transpired for the Browns to part ways, I think it’s galling to ban someone for calling Gordon a moron.
Now if word comes out that he showed up high as a kite, doing blow off of Hue’s desk, dressed only in his underwear, then calling him a moron would likely be inappropriate. But if he were simply late to eight meetings and didn’t know the playbook, then I’d say it’s fair to call him a moron, no?
I doubt he's been tested already, but who knows with whatever stage of the drug program he is currently in.
Exactly, a conditional 7th rounder based on him being on the team until the end of the season, is a completely no risk way to make sure you get the guy.
I've seen Dallas(makes infinite sense) and Jacksonville brought up. I'd throw New England in there (they never replaced Cooks and there are a couple Moss similarities) as well as Carolina(lost their top pass catcher, Norv connection)
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Thunderlips
Footballguy
I have to figure teams would have a good idea if he was going to fail any future tests.
Chaka
Footballguy
You are focusing on the wrong part of my post.
It's pretty simple: Call his actions moronic, don't call him a moron.
You can do it if you try.
pinequick
Footballguy
Bud, if you find it "galling" to tell somebody to go post on some other fantasy football message board for 2 weeks... I really want to live your life. No joke.
ponchsox
Footballguy
JamieMurphy
Footballguy
Hoping the Browns had a knee jerk reaction to him being late and didn't like his explanation for the injury. Someone in the front office taking trade calls may be thinking they acted hastily, but the damage is done. Trade him, release him, but give him a new lease on his career.
I think his leases in the NFL are about to expire. It is not worth the trouble anymore. It is a disruption.
apalmer
Footballguy
Hankmoody
Footballguy
pinequick
Footballguy
Agree, but I would think that the sensation for an uber-confident NFL exec who scooped up Gordon for peanuts would be pretty similar to a fantasy owner this season who got Gordon for basically nothing at the end of a fantasy draft. You thought you were getting a steal. That feeling is why I believe that Gordon's got another strike left... if only one.
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
Because trading for him gets him on his rookie deal + RFA for next year. Once he’s released he’s a FA and presumably subject to a bidding war.
JamieMurphy
Footballguy
Maybe, maybe not. Get him on a rookie contract for a year at the cost of a conditional late round pick? If no suspension is looming and the Browns just said enough, that's a pretty tasty proposition
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Bidding war. Yeah. He will be lucky if anyone signs him for the minimum.
If you scroll back about 465 pages and 6 years ago you’ll see that I said that I traded this dude after finding out that he has never gone more than 8 months without getting busted for drugs since his sophomore year in hs. Apparently you can get addicted to doobies.
Eta: stoked to have traded for Landry two days ago.
Eta: stoked to have traded for Landry two days ago.
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Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
If the reports are true that 5 teams already are inquiring about trading real assets for him, why wouldn’t that hold true when the cost is nothing other than cap space?
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
I don't think we know the entire story and my bet is the entire story includes enough facts so that the Browns simply could not trust Josh Gordon at all anymore. I think it is more than being late to meetings or getting injured at a promo shoot. I would further bet that these calls from teams are primarily to find out what those facts are, not necessarily to engage in hard trade talks. Whether the Browns choose to disclose the facts or not, I don't know, but it doesn't surprise me at all that other teams are calling to try to get the clear picture.
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
It’s so discouraging to see a young man who is incapable of refraining from sabotaging himself.
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
Jimmy @AddisonAve1 56m56 minutes ago
Dan Marino was kidnapped from s promotional shoot and didn’t miss a game.
Dan Marino was kidnapped from s promotional shoot and didn’t miss a game.
JamieMurphy
Footballguy
If, and of course it's a big if considering his tenuous status in the league, but if there isn't a failed drug test, I bet he'll be on someone's roster for week 3.
A few day's ago Hugh was talking about how they need to get Gordon more looks. Today He's told he will be cut. I can't imagine a non drug related event is going to make them give up on a mega talented player at this point. The reports are that he has showed up late to meetings and is not himself. Where there is smoke there is fire.
You're exactly right. The teams are just doing their due diligence.
When you have been around someone who has addiction issues it's not hard to see the signs that they have relapsed. They may not know for sure but they know.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
It's not censorship, it's consequences for one's actions. Censorship would be to go back and delete such and such comments and any record of it.
I am personally allowed to go hit on my neighbor's wife, that doesn't mean I should.
The name calling doesn't bother me with Gordon here, but this is not my house. If I'm told multiple times to cut it out I cut it out.
I am personally allowed to go hit on my neighbor's wife, that doesn't mean I should.
The name calling doesn't bother me with Gordon here, but this is not my house. If I'm told multiple times to cut it out I cut it out.
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
How did he get hurt on a promotional shoot?
Chaka
Footballguy
I dunno, if it gets him off the Browns it could be genius.He's definitely a moron for being late to several team meetings and getting hurt at a promotional shoot after all the chances the team gave him.
MOOD!
Concept Coop
Footballguy
I’m a terrible person. From the moment I heard the news I’ve been looking forward to reading SF’s spin.
Al O'Pecia
Footballguy
I appreciate your candor, and have similar sentiments about making horrible mistakes in my twenties.
That decade in people's lives can be a difficult transition from childhood when you had limited responsibilities to adulthood when you have a lot of responsibilities. Some people can't handle such a drastic shift in life and turn to drugs, booze, or easy women to self-medicate. I did. (I kind of miss the easy women.)
That's a great part of the reason why you see so much drug abuse and suicide in that decade in one's life. It always saddens me when I hear of a twenty-something who commits suicide because I can relate to what they were thinking, but I know they would have had a better perspective on life and come to terms with adulthood if they just held on for a few more years.
