Interesting read. I lay a lot of the blame at the feet of Jeff Fisher.
When you compare Foles, Bradford, Keenum, and Goff under Fisher and then under subsequent coaches, the difference is stark. All of them have performed much better after Jeff Fisher. Foles also had success before Jeff Fishertkrull said:Interesting read. I lay a lot of the blame at the feet of Jeff Fisher.
Fisher certainly wasn’t helping, but nick really does need to be ensconced as a part of a machine. If you have a well structured machine, he is a hell of a piston, but he is not an engine unto himself.tkrull said:Interesting read. I lay a lot of the blame at the feet of Jeff Fisher.
Well put.Fisher certainly wasn’t helping, but nick really does need to be ensconced as a part of a machine. If you have a well structured machine, he is a hell of a piston, but he is not an engine unto himself.
Few are though, right? I mean, this is often said as a put-down of Foles, but unless you're some transcendent talent like Brady or Rodgers, you're only going to be as successful as the totality of the coaching staff around you, the offensive philosophy, offensive line etc. I think sometimes we underrate how important situation and environment is for these guys and if they can't transcend their situation we write them off as mediocre talents.Fisher certainly wasn’t helping, but nick really does need to be ensconced as a part of a machine. If you have a well structured machine, he is a hell of a piston, but he is not an engine unto himself.
Coach Doug Pederson confirmed Nick Foles will start Week 2 against the Bucs.
Not a surprise at all, as Carson Wentz (knee) still has yet to be cleared for contact. Foles was dreadful in the opener, going 19-of-34 for a measly 117 yards and an interceptions, but the Eagles still escaped with a win. This is a good on-paper matchup, but Foles can't be trusted as more than a QB2.
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With Nick's nickname, it is interesting that you compare him to a piston.Fisher certainly wasn’t helping, but nick really does need to be ensconced as a part of a machine. If you have a well structured machine, he is a hell of a piston, but he is not an engine unto himself.
Washington. Ready to win now and it's a division rivalSo, looking around the league at some of the guys starting, it appears that Nick Foles has a pretty decent chance of cashing out on Free Agency and competing for a starting job. For instance, might a team like Jacksonville be interested in giving him a shot?
He doesn't have nearly the hype as a guy like Kirk Cousins, but unlike Kirk Cousins, Foles has actually proven himself on the big stage -- which could be intriguing for a team with a decent defense looking for proven quarterback if not a spectacular one.
Where do you think this guy ends up?
As a Redskins fan, I certainly would not mind seeing Foles in D.C. As he showed last night, he certainly can play -- and as has been discussed -- he can also perform on the big stage.Washington. Ready to win now and it's a division rival
Eta: not saying Washington is a powerhouse. rather were winning their division and looked like a playoff team until they crapped the bed.
Also I think Jacksonville or Denver might pay up
Giants? It would allow them to avoid overpaying for a QB this draft, since no “franchise” guys are coming out, and let them work on patching up their OL instead.As a Redskins fan, I certainly would not mind seeing Foles in D.C. As he showed last night, he certainly can play -- and as has been discussed -- he can also perform on the big stage.
On the other hand, I don't think the Redskins can afford to pay another big Free Agent QB salary at this point. They are still on the hook for Alex Smith's contract, and I just don't see how they could continue to pay Smith + Foles, who is going to attract some attention from other clubs.
I believe the Redskins need to just draft a guy at this point. Not only would this be a nice departure from the "sign a retread" strategy, but the young guy would be on a rookie contract while they finish paying up Smith, so as to alleviate the financial stress of the situation.
I hear people talking about Flacco to Jacksonville, but I'd definitely rather have Foles. I think Denver is an intriguing idea as well, yes...not sure what kind of commitment they have to Keenum...
Also...Tampa?
Yes, after realizing how bad the Smith contract is, I agree that the Redskins will end up having to draft someoneAs a Redskins fan, I certainly would not mind seeing Foles in D.C. As he showed last night, he certainly can play -- and as has been discussed -- he can also perform on the big stage.
On the other hand, I don't think the Redskins can afford to pay another big Free Agent QB salary at this point. They are still on the hook for Alex Smith's contract, and I just don't see how they could continue to pay Smith + Foles, who is going to attract some attention from other clubs.
I believe the Redskins need to just draft a guy at this point. Not only would this be a nice departure from the "sign a retread" strategy, but the young guy would be on a rookie contract while they finish paying up Smith, so as to alleviate the financial stress of the situation.
I hear people talking about Flacco to Jacksonville, but I'd definitely rather have Foles. I think Denver is an intriguing idea as well, yes...not sure what kind of commitment they have to Keenum...
Also...Tampa?
Will prob stick with Eli and take someone in first couple rounds.Giants? It would allow them to avoid overpaying for a QB this draft, since no “franchise” guys are coming out, and let them work on patching up their OL instead.
Jags will cut Bortles I think. They’re on hook for some money but can get out of some.Jacksonville would be ideal, if they also didn't give Bortles that extension. They're kinda stuck for next year too $$ wise.
There really isn't a huge market - this past year had a LOT of young QB's come in, and I think most teams are going to want to give them a chance. If the Bucs move on from Winston, they might bring in Foles. Bengals may move on from Dalton as well, but I don't see a huge difference between the two guys.
From rotoworldJacksonville would be ideal, if they also didn't give Bortles that extension. They're kinda stuck for next year too $$ wise.
There really isn't a huge market - this past year had a LOT of young QB's come in, and I think most teams are going to want to give them a chance. If the Bucs move on from Winston, they might bring in Foles. Bengals may move on from Dalton as well, but I don't see a huge difference between the two guys.
16.5 dead cap money. If they release him post 6/1, they can split that up for 2 year 11.5/5 - still a huge cap hit though.Jags will cut Bortles I think. They’re on hook for some money but can get out of some.
I think Jags is a real possibility. I know he could go to the Skins or Giants but I think if all things are equal (i.e. money not far off), he'll go somewhere where he doesn't have to play Philly. Not because he's scared of them. Now if the Giants or Skins give him stupid money, then I can see him going.Odds for where Foles will end up from Bovada:
Giants: 11/5
Jaguars: 4/1
Redskins: 4/1
Dolphins: 5/1
Buccaneers: 7/1
Raiders: 19/2
Bengals: 19/2
Broncos: 19/2
I tried to pull the trigger on him over Allen. Couldn't bring myself to do it.Winning people some championships today!
#BDN
I cut Allen to pick Foles up yesterday. He got the start over Winston for me and looks like a winning decision. I had Watson in my other championship so I absolutely loved seeing that game today.I tried to pull the trigger on him over Allen. Couldn't bring myself to do it.
I cut Allen to pick Foles up yesterday. He got the start over Winston for me and looks like a winning decision. I had Watson in my other championship so I absolutely loved seeing that game today.
There's no controversy.So the eagles will let this guy go to stay with a guy who can't stay on the field?
(RotoWire) Foles completed 35 of 49 passing attempts for 471 yards, four touchdowns and one interception in Sunday's 32-30 win over the Texans. He also rushed once for one yard. Analysis: Foles came up clutch once again, leading the Eagles down the field for a game-winning field goal despite briefly leaving after a vicious hit by Jadeveon Clowney on the game's final drive. His 471 passing yards set the Eagles' mark for most in a single game. With the 29-year-old playing so well once again, it's tough to believe he won't get another start in a very winnable Week 17 matchup at Washington while Carson Wentz continues to recover from a back injury.
NopeDidn't the Eagles need Vikings to lose to stay alive anyway?
100%, without a doubt. It's not even a debate amongst knowledgeable fans.So the eagles will let this guy go to stay with a guy who can't stay on the field?
Next week.Didn't the Eagles need Vikings to lose to stay alive anyway?
IIRC that game was a blowout and they stopped throwing in the late 3rd/early 4th.It's crazy that Foles' 7 TD effort a few years ago didn't surpass 471 yards.
I was really on the fence about it, but Sig's suggestion of Foles in the Ask Bloom thread decided it for me.Ballsy choice, good for you. That's championship level management
Yep. Nick could have had 9tds if they played to the whistle.IIRC that game was a blowout and they stopped throwing in the late 3rd/early 4th.