lod001 5,406 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 quite the end of day meltdown. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lacey 116 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 46 minutes ago, beef said: @siffoin I'd love to try this out too. @siffoin me too ✋ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sporthenry 1,328 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, lod001 said: quite the end of day meltdown. Rebounding hard though. Mancini more or less called it. Imagine this bounce off the lows means 3,000 is more likely than 2,700 ETA: Spoke too soon. Edited May 5, 2020 by sporthenry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 5,406 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, sporthenry said: Rebounding hard though. Mancini more or less called it. Imagine this bounce off the lows means 3,000 is more likely than 2,700 Not sure. He said ES=F needed to take out the morning lows which i believe it did at least temporarily. It's back to 9:30 this morning levels. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BassNBrew 11,130 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Tankers killed me today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maik Jeaunz 1,441 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 i'm new to charting. is there a preferred tool that most people use, preferably inexpensive? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Man 4,558 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 I'm just a 403(b) buy and hold forever guy but this afternoon I did something I've never done before, through the dot-com bust when I was early 30s, to 2008 when I was late 30s, to now when I'm early 50s - get out of equities (moved about 80% of my balance). I think we're heading off a cliff with this pandemic and the worst, by far, is yet to come. If I'm wrong and I miss a big bounce, I can live with it. But the losses will eat away at me if I was right and didn't do anything to safeguard the funds it's taken me 30 years to build up. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 5,406 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Maik Jeaunz said: i'm new to charting. is there a preferred tool that most people use, preferably inexpensive? Mancini. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sand 5,755 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 hour ago, siffoin said: This was a very good idea, but brought to you guys way too early. I really regret that. It's something I kept picking at...trying to figure it out. It evolved. These days it is a monthly rotation that selects 2 stocks. Basically an algorithm runs each month that selects the 2 best stocks. It holds those for 1 month and the selection process runs again. It's possible a "top" stock remains selected for more than 1 month. The system got tested for about 18 months and then went live trading last year. Under the current market I'm choosing not to run the algo...and that part of the portfolio is just in cash. When it runs I have no idea what stocks might be selected. Many times I've never even heard of them. It's done well imo. If you are interested in the results pm me. Sounds like some of the screeners in the Fool Mechanical investing board. Followed those for a while and they did good, but the transaction penalties at the time were pretty severe. I'd be interested to compare up against some of those old ones that are out there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BassNBrew 11,130 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Tankers seem to be up about 2 1/2% after hours. I did add to my position at close. Not really sure why other than a guy feel that things were oversold today. Trying to dollar cost down my share price Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sporthenry 1,328 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 DHT earnings: EBITDA of $128 million. In 1Q, they did half of what they did in all of 2019. Paid down $75mn of debt. Quarterly dividend of $0.35 which would equate to a 20% div yield if you annualized that. VLCC's earned $64k/day in 1Q. Thus far in Q2, spot rates are averaging $110k/d. Q2 revenues look light $164.4mn vs Q1 of $153mn. They have a lot of open days which I'm not sure is just the remaining open spot days in the quarter or open days they expect to be in the quarter. Still solid numbers but was expecting higher Q2. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
commoncents 38 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 minute ago, BassNBrew said: Tankers seem to be up about 2 1/2% after hours. I did add to my position at close. Not really sure why other than a guy feel that things were oversold today. Trying to dollar cost down my share price DHT just announced Q1 earnings and 5% dividend of $0.35/share. Also guided for Q2 adjusted net revenue of $164.4M. To put that into perspective, 2020 YTD through Q2 would have adjusted net revenues of $316.9M vs. full year 2019 adjusted net revenues of $347.6M. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Sacamano 9,754 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 https://www.bizjournals.com/portland/news/2020/05/05/cytodyn-leader-touts-hiv-drug-for-covid-19-sells.html 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycriesmary 661 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 51 minutes ago, BassNBrew said: Tankers killed me today. Yep. What's another 10%?🤮 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
commoncents 38 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, sporthenry said: DHT earnings: EBITDA of $128 million. In 1Q, they did half of what they did in all of 2019. Paid down $75mn of debt. Quarterly dividend of $0.35 which would equate to a 20% div yield if you annualized that. VLCC's earned $64k/day in 1Q. Thus far in Q2, spot rates are averaging $110k/d. Q2 revenues look light $164.4mn vs Q1 of $153mn. They have a lot of open days which I'm not sure is just the remaining open spot days in the quarter or open days they expect to be in the quarter. Still solid numbers but was expecting higher Q2. I'm interested to get more color on the open revenue days. It represents ~24% of the the days in Q2 and would significantly impact DHT's results. Uneducated guess is that it represents unbooked spot rates for the remainder of Q + any unutilized spot rate days QTD. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chet 4,604 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: https://www.bizjournals.com/portland/news/2020/05/05/cytodyn-leader-touts-hiv-drug-for-covid-19-sells.html There are a lot of pissed off shareholders because of Nader's gaffe. However, on to bigger and better things and a higher share price! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BassNBrew 11,130 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 20 minutes ago, sporthenry said: DHT earnings: EBITDA of $128 million. In 1Q, they did half of what they did in all of 2019. Paid down $75mn of debt. Quarterly dividend of $0.35 which would equate to a 20% div yield if you annualized that. VLCC's earned $64k/day in 1Q. Thus far in Q2, spot rates are averaging $110k/d. Q2 revenues look light $164.4mn vs Q1 of $153mn. They have a lot of open days which I'm not sure is just the remaining open spot days in the quarter or open days they expect to be in the quarter. Still solid numbers but was expecting higher Q2. That's a huge dividend. @sporthenry Do you see anything at all that says anything other than hold for 3 months? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beef 2,789 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 DIS surviving alright. Was kind of hoping it would dip further into the 90's during afterhours so I could add some more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sporthenry 1,328 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Just now, commoncents said: I'm interested to get more color on the open revenue days. It represents ~24% of the the days in Q2 and would significantly impact DHT's results. Uneducated guess is that it represents unbooked spot rates for the remainder of Q + any unutilized spot rate days QTD. Yes, that is my belief as well. Only these guys could screw up an outlook when running record results. Maybe I should just consult them on how to present this stuff. You don't present something as an 'outlook' when it only represents ~80% of expected revenue. I had estimated ~$200mn in revs for the quarter at an average spot rate of $100k. Just off what they presented, even if you get 60k/day for the remaining days, will get to that $200mn which probably puts you in the $150-$175mn in EBITDA range. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sporthenry 1,328 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, BassNBrew said: That's a huge dividend. @sporthenry Do you see anything at all that says anything other than hold for 3 months? Not after clearing up that revenue issue. I mean I'll monitor the others and hopefully they present it clearer. Call is at 8am so hopefully will have clarity before the open. I'll let commoncents comment as well since he seems even closer. But no, I'm not selling at these levels after those results. Now if it gets to $9 or $10, I'd probably start to lighten up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sporthenry 1,328 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, beef said: DIS surviving alright. Was kind of hoping it would dip further into the 90's during afterhours so I could add some more. May still get that with the dividend cut. Could put the tinfoil hat on and say that is just for optics but could see some selling on that. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sputnikv8 494 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Planning to buy back into DIS after this current pullback going on after their earnings call. It seems like a solid long term hold and at sub-100 should be a great bargain. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beef 2,789 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, sporthenry said: May still get that with the dividend cut. Could put the tinfoil hat on and say that is just for optics but could see some selling on that. It is dropping more. Have a feeling I'll be adding more soon. These DIS shares are in my Roth, and pretty much going to be my girls' wedding funds since that will be around my retirement age. If they want a princess wedding DIS better perform. Or maybe they'll be smart and go to the courthouse and save the shares. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
commoncents 38 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, sporthenry said: Not after clearing up that revenue issue. I mean I'll monitor the others and hopefully they present it clearer. Call is at 8am so hopefully will have clarity before the open. I'll let commoncents comment as well since he seems even closer. But no, I'm not selling at these levels after those results. Now if it gets to $9 or $10, I'd probably start to lighten up. I think DHT is a solid hold.Their Q1 (and Q2 guidance) could have been even better if they didn't time charter a large portion of their fleet at ~$35K/day. I expect that EURN and FRO will outperform DHT in Q1 and Q2 guidance as they have more exposure to spot daily rates. Whether DHT's conservative approach pays off, remains to be seen when spot rates begin to soften in Q3 and beyond. I could be wrong, but I am of the belief that we will see contango return again. As long as there is oil surplus, contango needs to exist to store the excess oil. My uneducated guess is we see it return and spot rates will firm up and possibly run again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ConstruxBoy 1,241 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 hour ago, The_Man said: I'm just a 403(b) buy and hold forever guy but this afternoon I did something I've never done before, through the dot-com bust when I was early 30s, to 2008 when I was late 30s, to now when I'm early 50s - get out of equities (moved about 80% of my balance). I think we're heading off a cliff with this pandemic and the worst, by far, is yet to come. If I'm wrong and I miss a big bounce, I can live with it. But the losses will eat away at me if I was right and didn't do anything to safeguard the funds it's taken me 30 years to build up. I hope it works out for you. Just a reminder for you or others that the stock market does NOT equal the economy. They can be quite different in the short term. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sporthenry 1,328 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, commoncents said: I think DHT is a solid hold.Their Q1 (and Q2 guidance) could have been even better if they didn't time charter a large portion of their fleet at ~$35K/day. I expect that EURN and FRO will outperform DHT in Q1 and Q2 guidance as they have more exposure to spot daily rates. Whether DHT's conservative approach pays off, remains to be seen when spot rates begin to soften in Q3 and beyond. I could be wrong, but I am of the belief that we will see contango return again. As long as there is oil surplus, contango needs to exist to store the excess oil. My uneducated guess is we see it return and spot rates will firm up and possibly run again. Slight comment or question. Think they fixed the 6 at $67k unless you're talking about the 4 they had fixed previously. Honestly, 60k/d for a year is pretty good. They essentially paid for all of their expenses with those ships so spot rate from the rest is pure profit. I kinda like that trade. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-OZ- 8,110 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Looks like my limit price of $99 for 100 shares of Disney will trip for son #4 tomorrow. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ted Lange as your Bartender 2,549 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 PINS, wait Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Sacamano 9,754 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 https://www.statnews.com/2020/05/05/were-researchers-wrong-to-move-the-goalposts-on-remdesivir-in-the-end-it-may-not-have-mattered/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
commoncents 38 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 43 minutes ago, sporthenry said: Slight comment or question. Think they fixed the 6 at $67k unless you're talking about the 4 they had fixed previously. Honestly, 60k/d for a year is pretty good. They essentially paid for all of their expenses with those ships so spot rate from the rest is pure profit. I kinda like that trade. I believe they have ten VLCC's that have been fixed for extended charters. I did some digging and it looks like 4 of them were contracted at $31,500/day with expirations in 2021/2022 and 6 were contracted in Q1 at $67,300/day for a year. The 6 charters at $67,300 are likely going to work out well, but if we compare DHT's Q1/Q2 to FRO and EURN, I suspect that it will underperform as FRO and EURN's CEO's have gone on the record that they prefer to be exposed to spot rates. Just different strategies of taking profits off the table vs. letting it ride. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
djmich 987 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 hour ago, chet said: There are a lot of pissed off shareholders because of Nader's gaffe. However, on to bigger and better things and a higher share price! I'm on the cydy bus, but honestly none of us really know if it was truly a financial sacrifice compounded by a gaffe or cashing out while the gettin was good. Guess we'll find out at least on the covid front over the next month. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pecorino 2,125 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 4 hours ago, sporthenry said: Sorry if unclear bought the debit (bearish put spread). Just looking for unusual option activity that mimics my fundamental view on companies. DIS makes all of its money on things that are getting crushed. Investors may not look beyond DIS Plus numbers but have to think the amount of money they're losing there will put a damper on things. And market may like what they hear about reopening. But that's why I'm just taking advantage of elevated IV. Entered DIS May 8 100/98P for $0.70. ETA: I mostly mentioned it just to let the DIS longs that there are a lot of puts being traded. I mean I'm just gambling small but couldn't pass up an almost 2 to 1 risk reward. Good call. Er, put. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BassNBrew 11,130 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 2 hours ago, sporthenry said: Not after clearing up that revenue issue. I mean I'll monitor the others and hopefully they present it clearer. Call is at 8am so hopefully will have clarity before the open. I'll let commoncents comment as well since he seems even closer. But no, I'm not selling at these levels after those results. Now if it gets to $9 or $10, I'd probably start to lighten up. Thanks. My confidence is waning. Good financial numbers seem to be a stock killer in this market and bad numbers seemed to be shrugged off. Let's pay off $75mm (90%) worth of debt and while we're at it, give the shareholders a 20% dividend. Oh yeah, we have these assets called tankers that aren't going anywhere. Also worth mentioning, next quarter people are going to pay us double not to run our some of our tankers and even those that are running be be using fuel at prices from the 1980s. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JerseyToughGuys 3,149 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Pretty good earnings reports for tankers yet volatility goes other way. New normal. https://www.freightwaves.com/news/investors-dump-tanker-stocks-just-as-tanker-profits-soar/amp?__twitter_impression=true Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chet 4,604 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 2 hours ago, djmich said: I'm on the cydy bus, but honestly none of us really know if it was truly a financial sacrifice compounded by a gaffe or cashing out while the gettin was good. Guess we'll find out at least on the covid front over the next month. I know but I can see how there'd be some doubt from others. #notselling 5 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Sacamano 9,754 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 "I know, dear, but I'm trusting Chet on this one. Yes, Chet. From the internet. " 9 16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fantasycurse42 8,316 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: "I know, dear, but I'm trusting Chet on this one. Yes, Chet. From the internet. " This is me. Chet got me in at 29 cents. I go nowhere until he does. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sand 5,755 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, fantasycurse42 said: This is me. Chet got me in at 29 cents. I go nowhere until he does. At this point I'm paying regular income tax rates if I sell. At least if I sell it needs to get to hookers and blow money. Edited May 6, 2020 by Sand 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dkp993 6,999 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, fantasycurse42 said: This is me. Chet got me in at 29 cents. I go nowhere until he does. Ditto @.29, again @.60 and again @2.42. Lol. * the real trick will be knowing when he does. Edited May 6, 2020 by dkp993 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wooderson 978 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said: "I know, dear, but I'm trusting Chet on this one. Yes, Chet. From the internet. " I’ve been on this board so long my wife doesn’t even skip a beat when I talk about FBG people anymore. Kinda strange. 😬 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chet 4,604 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, dkp993 said: Ditto @.29, again @.60 and again @2.42. Lol. * the real trick will be knowing when he does. I won't make it a secret when I am going to sell but I suspect most of you will have sold long before I do. 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jefferson the Caregiver 928 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, beef said: DIS surviving alright. Was kind of hoping it would dip further into the 90's during afterhours so I could add some more. That's really not out of the question. I don't think you need to be in any rush if you have a better price in mind. You can give this one some time, parks aren't reopening anytime soon and even when they do, not sure how far people are going to be travelling to get there. Edited May 6, 2020 by Jefferson the Caregiver 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dkp993 6,999 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Wooderson said: I’ve been on this board so long my wife doesn’t even skip a beat when I talk about FBG people anymore. Kinda strange. 😬 Lol. Me too! In fact a lot of times when a new topic we’re talking about comes up she says “what does your football thing say?” Edited May 6, 2020 by dkp993 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BassNBrew 11,130 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 24 minutes ago, chet said: I won't make it a secret when I am going to sell but I suspect most of you will have sold long before I do. Obviously after the Merck/Pfizer bidding war. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bshell27 346 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 42 minutes ago, chet said: I won't make it a secret when I am going to sell but I suspect most of you will have sold long before I do. I’m in it til the end brother. Hell, I’m still holding Cobcf. 1 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don Hutson 1,831 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Quote HIV TREATMENT TO BE TESTED ON COVID-19 PATIENTS https://nbcpalmsprings.com/2020/05/05/hiv-treatment-to-be-tested-on-covid-19-patients/ It’s being called a medical break-through in the making. A local group of clinical researchers are studying a drug that was formerly used to treat HIV to see if it can help people diagnosed with COVID-19. “We’re crossing our fingers, yes,” Dr. Carlos Martinez, chief medical officer at Palmtree Clinical Research, said. It’s a race to find treatments for COVID-19 across the world and Dr. Martinez is hoping Leronlimab could be the answer. “Your body’s immune system kind of starts shooting off all these deadly cells that can eventually cause your body to have very severe inflammation and very severe reaction,” he said. Dr. Martinez said the drug is supposed to block that process. The goal is to help patients who test positive for the virus in the beginning stages when they have mild to moderate symptoms to keep them from being hospitalized. Clinical trials are set to begin next week. The office will conduct a consent process over the phone before the patient comes in to make sure they qualify for the treatment. During the trials, the researchers are gowned up and the patient is led to a room where they give written consent, get a physical and have their blood drawn. After that, the medication is prepared. Some patients will get the actual medication and others will get a placebo. The first syringe is used to pull out the medication and the second syringe is used for the injection that will be given to the patient in the abdomen; one shot on the left side and one shot on the right side. The blood samples are then spun and saved for testing. “Every single week we see them to make sure their symptoms don’t get worse or that everything is actually under control,” Dr. Martinez said. Having done several other clinical trials, Dr. Martinez said he is ready to get to work. “I’m very excited actually, to be honest with you, it’s a very interesting study,” he said. “I’m hoping that it is, like we mentioned earlier, one of those breakthrough drugs.” Dr. Martinez said Leronlimab has minimal side effects. Ten other sites across the country are also conducting trials and are all in collaboration with the site in Palm Springs. If you are diagnosed with COVID-19 and want to participate in the trials, contact Palmtree Clinical Research at (760) 778-7799. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don Hutson 1,831 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Jefferson the Caregiver said: That's really not out of the question. I don't think you need to be in any rush if you have a better price in mind. You can give this one some time, parks aren't reopening anytime soon and even when they do, not sure how far people are going to be travelling to get there. And is there any scenario where Disney parks aren't closed again? Eliminating large gatherings of people is by far the most important tactic in fighting Coronavirus. Our society's anti-Covid strategies have been imperfect so far but people, scientists, and government officials are getting more educated on the topic. Drastic measures to stop the spread of Covid will be taken again in our future. The measures won't be the same as March/April of 2020. But eliminating large gatherings like theme parks will be a major part of the strategy. Disney Coronavirus spread might literally be the worst spreader in the US because it is a massive super spreader event occurring daily where thousands of people will bring back the virus to every corner of America within 3-5 days. Disney stock price would hit rock bottom if its parks are closed again for an extended period. Theme parks might even at some point get closed indefinitely until there is a vaccine. Disney is on a list of stocks that I will be looking at when there is a light at the end of the Covid tunnel. Edited May 6, 2020 by Don Hutson 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fantasycurse42 8,316 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 I added MA to my long term holdings list. I had 19 stocks, wanted an even 20. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don Hutson 1,831 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 (edited) RedChip leronlimab article published on MarketWatch: https://www.marketwatch.com/press-release/manuscript-describes-how-cytodyns-leronlimab-disrupts-ccl5rantes-ccr5-pathway-thereby-restoring-immune-homeostasis-reducing-plasma-viral-load-reversing-hyper-immune-activation-and-inflammation-in-critical-covid-19-patients-2020-05-06-11842413 Edited May 6, 2020 by Don Hutson 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jayrok 3,667 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 10 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said: "I know, dear, but I'm trusting Chet on this one. Yes, Chet. From the internet. " "What's he wearing, Chet from the Internet? khakis He sounds hideous. Well, he's an investor, so..." 6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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