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CletiusMaximus
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Sebowski
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What is the rule exactly? Acamdey homegrown, or just be British? Welsh or Scots count? United Kingdomians, if you will?
The Gator
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NewlyRetired
Footballguy
The current rule (which started in 2011 read like this) and had nothing to do with place of birth. It had more to do with how long you have been in the FA
All 20 Clubs must include eight Home Grown players out of a squad of 25 for that Premier League season.
A Home Grown player will be defined as one who, irrespective of his nationality or age, has been registered with any club affiliated to the Football Association or the Football Association of Wales for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons or 36 months prior to his 21st birthday (or the end of the season during which he turns 21).
I believe some new proposals have been made that will affect this including
- Players, irrespective of nationality, will have to be with his club from age 15 to qualify as home-grown
- The number of non-home grown players in each 25-man squad is to be reduced from 17 to 13
- At least two home-grown players must be club trained
I do not know which of these have been adopted.
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I think the player has to be from an Academy within the FA - so many years before 18 - 3 maybe?
As Gator noted Cesc is home grown, but Dier for Spurs (who is 21 and English) is not because he moved to Portugal as a kid and came up in Sporting's Academy.
I don't think any are in effect today - but if adopted, they will be implemented over 4 years.
City would be the most impacted team - they currently have 17 non-homegrown, and 2 players would lose HG status (Clichy and Boyata), meaning they would have to sell 6 non-homegrown players.
Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea, and Newcastle are the other teams that would be forced to sell if the rules were in force today.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
The Sports Science guys at ESPN break down Messi's incredible Copa Del Rey goal from a bio mechanical perspective.
Some of the data they have on this goal is incredible to think about
http://search.espn.go.com/sports-science-lionel-messi/videos/6
Some of the data they have on this goal is incredible to think about
http://search.espn.go.com/sports-science-lionel-messi/videos/6
Sebowski
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The Gator
Footballguy
Are they still playing?
Sebowski
Footballguy
The Gator
Footballguy
The series starts tonight and should be over by the time the EPL season kicks offAre they still playing?
roadkill1292
Footballguy
Randin thoughts:
Elche just got relegated by La Liga for tax debts and Eibar will now stay up. Cool, kinda.
I hope tomorrow's final is a great game, even better if Juvie wins it with Pogba playing out of his mind.
Southampton is sniffing around Charlie Austin, who I love even if he brings a whiff of Christo with him.
Victor Wanyama says Arsenal is interested in him but Schneiderlin is the better player and by far the better fit for the Gooners, imo.
Elche just got relegated by La Liga for tax debts and Eibar will now stay up. Cool, kinda.
I hope tomorrow's final is a great game, even better if Juvie wins it with Pogba playing out of his mind.
Southampton is sniffing around Charlie Austin, who I love even if he brings a whiff of Christo with him.
Victor Wanyama says Arsenal is interested in him but Schneiderlin is the better player and by far the better fit for the Gooners, imo.
blend
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I admit I haven't been following EPL long - 2-3 years or so... Not trying to be a joker by asking this, but, why does Southampton, more than other clubs, seem to sell their good players so quickly? Wouldn't it be better to keep those players and shoot for a Top4 finish? Or does management not think that a Top4 finish is possible with the "bigger" clubs and it's better to get something for a player rather than re-sign him???
CletiusMaximus
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Most people consider Southampton's youth academy the best in England. I saw a CIES study a while back that had Southampton academy as the most profitable of any among the top 5 leagues. It's a great model that is working. I think last summer's transfers all look like great business today with one season's hindsight. They keep many of their players, seem to sell at the right time and also buy well. Bertrand for Luke Shaw +£20m looks fookin brilliant right now.
The Gator
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Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
As usual, I agree with Cletius. I'd worry if the Saints were selling players below their valuation, but that isn't happening. They kept Schneiderlein last year from Spurs. But he played well again and someone is going to pay what he's worth. It's not as if they accept cheeky bids like the lodged for Clune last week.
NewlyRetired
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roadkill1292
Footballguy
Saints are asking a pretty penny for both Clyne and Schneiderlin, both of whom are better right now than Shaw, I think we all agree. The risk there is in ripping the league's second best defense apart, what with Aldeweireld also in danger of being lost (his versatility helped them appear deeper than they really were). Fonte and Yoshida have proven a very capable duo but Schneiderlin was exponentially better than Wanyama at keeping the bad guys at bay in front of them. If both fullbacks are also lost, the team changes character very quickly next year.
Soton scouts are reportedly sneaking around the back alleys of Holland and Portugal looking for the next Sadio Mane.
Soton scouts are reportedly sneaking around the back alleys of Holland and Portugal looking for the next Sadio Mane.
Jaysus
Good times!
El Floppo
Footballguy
I'd assume straight up normal Fox, not one of their associated channels.
yep- that's what it is here in NYC.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Nice. I'm so used to looking in the 200 channels for these games it didn't even occur to me to look on a regular network for a non-US game. Good to see it.
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Yeah, I think Southampton did shrewd business last summer. They did not sell anyone for less than full value, and did an excellent job in replacing those players. Thats a tough ask to do repeatedly, but so far, they are not showing any signs of letting players go on the cheap. Spurs have already made a couple of Levy-esque offers for Schneiderlin, but Soton is not budging on the asking price.
Tom Hagen
Footballguy
Does anyone know who the announcers are? Are they Fox announcers or are they using another feed?
I haven't paid much attention to who Fox is using since Gus gave up soccer.
El Floppo
Footballguy
absolutely, re: Saints.
and we plus the rest of the world were riding them hard at this point last summer for looking like they were essentially giving up and cashing out with all their top players.
El Floppo
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Ramsay Hunt Experience
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For the semis, they just used the British feed with Martin Tyler. The Fox team is all in Vancouver for the WWC.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
roadkill1292
Footballguy
Well, er, uh, Scheiderlin is adamant about playing in the Champions League.Sinn Fein said:
El Floppo
Footballguy
howard, wynalda, harkes... all pretty terrible. but mensa level compared to gus.it could be worse, it could be Tim Howard on the callRamsay Hunt Experience said:
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Yeah pretty sure I'm taking my kid to a bar tomorrow to watch. Good times.
Related, cord-cutters are #######s. We did it a few months ago, except our OTA antenna doesn't get FOX or NBC. Lame-town. So tired of this and bad streams.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Good luck Gator.
FYI, I advised my son against going full kit for his U-11 academy try-outs. He had a stunned, hurt expression as I explained that some people just don't like Chelsea. YMMV w/LFC.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
Kind of inexplicably, FOX is using Lalas as their A team color guy while bringing Freidel (who is a natural) in only as a sideline reporter.howard, wynalda, harkes... all pretty terrible. but mensa level compared to gus.it could be worse, it could be Tim Howard on the callRamsay Hunt Experience said:
