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19 minutes ago, Capella said:

why haven’t any of these women filed charges?

 

what’s the next excuse from the bro brigade? 

It seems odd that it is threatened and not followed through on.

eta - I retain the right to be behind on this... I don't care enough to keep up.

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And now you see why women are hesitant to come forward, you have 13 of them saying the same thing and still there is a not insignificant amount of people who assume they are just trying to hustle a bu

Nothing like waiting to trade him at the absolute nadir of his value.  Yep, sounds like the Texans.

I find it humorous that some people think it's just an easy thing for a woman to lie about something like this about a high profile person, let alone finding 15+.  Like they just decide they're lookin

24 minutes ago, Capella said:

why haven’t any of these women filed charges?

tbf, we always knew 1-2 women were apparently going to file criminal charges... that story is 1-2 weeks old now.

the discussion was none of buzbee's "cases" are going criminal.

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Two of the 22 women suing Deshaun Watson for sexual assault went public on Tuesday. 

Ashley Solis and Lauren Baxley revealed their identities and stories at a Tuesday news conference. “I got into massage therapy to help people, to heal their minds and bodies, to bring peace to their souls,” Solis said in a harrowing statement. “Deshaun Watson has robbed me of that.” For now, this remains a civil, and not criminal, matter, though the Houston PD has opened an investigation. The one thing we know about Watson's NFL future right now is that it almost certainly includes the commissioner's exempt list. This is a disturbing situation that continues to only get worse. 

SOURCE: The Athletic 

Apr 6, 2021, 3:41 PM ET

 

 

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So now we finally get to the nexus of criminal versus civil proceedings versus Goodell intervention.  "He said She said" is less relevant to the civil court and the court of public opinion than it is to the criminal court.  I anticipate Rusty may be launching counter-suits soon....or the defense will fold...not sure which way this will play out yet.  High stakes poker indeed.

 

 

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TLDR Version - Buzbee made a 100k demand from Watson on behalf of Ms Solis to avoid any further action, and gave Watson until Friday of that week to accept. Watson and his reps declined.

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10 minutes ago, Soulfly3 said:

TLDR Version - Buzbee made a 100k demand from Watson on behalf of Ms Solis to avoid any further action, and gave Watson until Friday of that week to accept. Watson and his reps declined.

Watson should settle asap

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1 minute ago, Alex P Keaton said:

Big misstep.  Neither lawyer has impressed me so far.

hard to fathom all these women are lying, but if he really is innocent, i can see wanting to fight to clear his name

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4 minutes ago, Soulfly3 said:

hard to fathom all these women are lying, but if he really is innocent, i can see wanting to fight to clear his name

It wouldn’t ever have mattered if he just paid them weeks ago, before this all came out in the media.   

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2 minutes ago, Soulfly3 said:

they either thought it was a bluff and lost, or they genuinely want to fight it. :shrug: 

The emails indicate Watson does not view himself as totally innocent and indicates he was willing to pay something. 

So if you think you did at least something worthy of paying something and you know you did this to several other women around town it's pretty stupid to not settle. All he did was run risk of happening what is actually happening is the one case goes public and draws the others out. It's likely all the others cases would have just remained in the dark.

 

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54 minutes ago, Soulfly3 said:

TLDR Version - Buzbee made a 100k demand from Watson on behalf of Ms Solis to avoid any further action, and gave Watson until Friday of that week to accept. Watson and his reps declined.

What a colossal PR failure. 

Where is @gordon gekkoto PRsplain this to me. 

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3 hours ago, Alex P Keaton said:

It wouldn’t ever have mattered if he just paid them weeks ago, before this all came out in the media.   

really.....?....even if he pays...it is still out there.....and promise you it would have mattered....you don't think the other teams considering trading for him wouldn't have factored his "settlements" into the equation.....you gotta be kidding me that "it wouldn't have mattered"....lol

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 Buzbee even provided evidence today where 1 of the 18 woman who came out in support of Watson had in the past made statements that she would never work with Watson again and that the word is getting out about him.  Somehow Buzbee got copies of her DMs that she sent in the past.

Also, I don’t understand why people are shocked that Buzbee and his client tried to get a settlement before it reached a trail.  I’m pretty sure that’s how most civil lawsuits are handled.

“Lawsuit Settlement Process - Statistically 90% of all lawsuits filed are settled before trial. Of the 10% of the cases that go to trial 90% of them settle before verdict. Therefore, a very small percentage of cases are ever tried to conclusion. One reason is that the costs of trial are prohibitive and the results are never guaranteed.”

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2 minutes ago, Kevrunner said:

 

Also, I don’t understand why people are shocked that Buzbee and his client tried to get a settlement before it reached a trail.  I’m pretty sure that’s how most civil lawsuits are handled.

 

I don't think anyone is shocked his client wanted a settlement, that's kind of twisting the narrative a bit. It's just not consistent to say I'm not doing this because I want money but to make sure Watson does not assault anyone but if you had paid me $100K I'd have kept my mouth quiet and no one would have heard a peep about this.

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1 hour ago, Stinkin Ref said:

really.....?....even if he pays...it is still out there.....and promise you it would have mattered....you don't think the other teams considering trading for him wouldn't have factored his "settlements" into the equation.....you gotta be kidding me that "it wouldn't have mattered"....lol

Uh, if he paid them before any of this became public, no, it wouldn’t have mattered.  Because nobody would have known.

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Nike suspended its endorsement deal with Deshaun Watson. 

The fallout begins a day after two of the 22 women suing Watson for sexual assault went public. “We are deeply concerned by the disturbing allegations and have suspended Deshaun Watson. We will continue to closely monitor the situation,” Nike said in a statement. Meanwhile, the Houston Police Department has opened an investigation into the allegations against the Houston quarterback. Watson is quickly becoming a pariah with his legal troubles expected to carry on for months. He could miss some or all of the 2021 NFL season if his legal affairs aren't resolved by the summer. Even if they are, Watson has said he will not play for the Texans, and it seems the team is preparing for that eventuality. Acquiring Watson via trade this spring or summer would be a public relations nightmare for an NFL franchise -- not to mention a moral dilemma for those disturbed by the glut of sexual assault allegations against Watson. 

SOURCE: CNBC.com 

Apr 7, 2021, 9:38 AM ET

 

 

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9 hours ago, Alex P Keaton said:

Uh, if he paid them before any of this became public, no, it wouldn’t have mattered.  Because nobody would have known.

I guess my point is....it would have come out.....in todays world just not sure stuff like this goes unnoticed forever...

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10 hours ago, Kevrunner said:

 Buzbee even provided evidence today where 1 of the 18 woman who came out in support of Watson had in the past made statements that she would never work with Watson again and that the word is getting out about him.  Somehow Buzbee got copies of her DMs that she sent in the past.

I'm watching PFT live, and Florio referenced this and said, "yesterday was a very bad day for Watson."

The messages he read, from one of HIS character witnesses, are worse for Watson than any statement his client made.  No matter what his client says, there's no eyewitness, and there will always a segment that assumes the women are out for money.

This is a DM from someone Harding brought to the party, saying she warned Watson to watch his step.  

Ouch.

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6 hours ago, massraider said:

I'm watching PFT live, and Florio referenced this and said, "yesterday was a very bad day for Watson."

The messages he read, from one of HIS character witnesses, are worse for Watson than any statement his client made.  No matter what his client says, there's no eyewitness, and there will always a segment that assumes the women are out for money.

This is a DM from someone Harding brought to the party, saying she warned Watson to watch his step.  

Ouch.

If Deshaun is getting help from Tonya Harding, he is in worst shape than I thought

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15 minutes ago, dhockster said:

If Deshaun is getting help from Tonya Harding, he is in worst shape than I thought

I dunno, "It wasn't me, it was my hillbilly boyfriend", is the kind of Watson defense that just might work.  

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Seems like the chances of him playing this year are getting increasingly slim. No way the nfl let’s him out there with these hanging over him. 

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4 minutes ago, Capella said:

Seems like the chances of him playing this year are getting increasingly slim. No way the nfl let’s him out there with these hanging over him. 

The Exempt List is in his future at this point, it seems.

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2 hours ago, Dr. Octopus said:

The Exempt List is in his future at this point, it seems.

Not a fan of this punishment.  He said he was going to sit out and refused to play for the Texans except now he'll get paid. 

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12 minutes ago, Major said:

Not a fan of this punishment.  He said he was going to sit out and refused to play for the Texans except now he'll get paid. 

What would you rather see them do and why?

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5 minutes ago, ghostguy123 said:

Cause it basically never happens

Every situation/human is different.  You don't know what's going on in his mind.  I'd rather let him eat his words and come back with his tail between his legs.  You can sort out punishment then.

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2 minutes ago, Major said:

Every situation/human is different.  You don't know what's going on in his mind.  I'd rather let him eat his words and come back with his tail between his legs.  You can sort out punishment then.

I am not sure what you are trying to argue

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2 minutes ago, ghostguy123 said:

I am not sure what you are trying to argue

Lets keep it on topic and stop trying to provoke arguments.  Take care 

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5 hours ago, Major said:

Why reward/pay him for this misconduct?  

It's not a reward, it's only temporary. What is most likely is the exempt list leads to the suspended list leads to Houston being able to cut him costing Watson an incredible amount of money. 

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Incredible. 

I truly can’t imagine the failure of Watson’s team to not handle this all privately. 

That, or he’s just such a freak he created a truly uncontainable situation.

it’s all pretty hard to believe, yet here we are. 

With so many women coming forward, it no longer seems possible for Watson to have a football career after this.

Innocent until proven guilty & all that, sure, but woof. This looks bad bad. 

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30 minutes ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

Incredible. 

I truly can’t imagine the failure of Watson’s team to not handle this all privately. 

That, or he’s just such a freak he created a truly uncontainable situation.

it’s all pretty hard to believe, yet here we are. 

With so many women coming forward, it no longer seems possible for Watson to have a football career after this.

Innocent until proven guilty & all that, sure, but woof. This looks bad bad. 

Ego is a powerful thing 

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