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That’s where I’m at.I’m not on either side, yet, but have you heard 20 women actually say it? I’ve heard one attorney claim it.
That’s where I’m at.I’m not on either side, yet, but have you heard 20 women actually say it? I’ve heard one attorney claim it.
This PFT link has a quote with the lawyer referencing 9 women. Which is still a lot. But it isn’t 20. Not quibbling over details, just trying to keep the facts straight.I don’t believe 20 women would lie.
Well let’s be fair, he was promoted toIt’s worth remembering that this entire franchise is run by a former Patriots team chaplain. Say that out loud to yourself. A team chaplain - who lied on his resume - is running an NFL franchise.
There was a Tweet yesterday about the current lawsuits + women who have come forward but not filed (vetted) yet - total was 22This PFT link has a quote with the lawyer referencing 9 women. Which is still a lot. But it isn’t 20. Not quibbling over details, just trying to keep the facts straight.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/20/lawyer-handling-deshaun-watson-cases-intends-to-submit-package-of-evidence-to-houston-police/
The lawyer said he is for sure filing 12 suits and vetting 10 more. I apologize. Not 20. Yet. I don’t think 12 women would lie.This PFT link has a quote with the lawyer referencing 9 women. Which is still a lot. But it isn’t 20. Not quibbling over details, just trying to keep the facts straight.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/20/lawyer-handling-deshaun-watson-cases-intends-to-submit-package-of-evidence-to-houston-police/
Lol wut?And yet you’ll believe the attorney hook line & sinker without a shred of evidence?
Ooooooookay.
Dude you are not looking very good here.Who are the 20 women? Got pics? Quotes? Police statements? Any shred of evidence they even exist?
seems pretty crappy to ruin a guy’s career with nothing but an allegation by one dude.
Or do you have nothing? Seems like nothing.
And with that we have Watson’s track record as a choir boy. So there’s that.
I’d like to see some evidence.
Also, maybe we should compare the treatment of someone like Payton Manning, who DEFINITELY put his junk on a sports massage therapist, and suffered exactly no consequences. Wonder what the difference between Manning & Watson is?
I’m just sayin - some of this story doesn’t add up, wild conspiracies aside.
I’m looking fine here thanks. I’m saying I’m not going to judge until I’ve seen evidence.Dude you are not looking very good here.
Welcome to “ignore this user”. I look forward to not seeing your future posts.Lol wut?
9 is not 20. That’s a very fair point & im not sure why you’d have to walk on eggshells to make it.This PFT link has a quote with the lawyer referencing 9 women. Which is still a lot. But it isn’t 20. Not quibbling over details, just trying to keep the facts straight.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/20/lawyer-handling-deshaun-watson-cases-intends-to-submit-package-of-evidence-to-houston-police/
Men solicit sex workers all the time. It doesn’t make them “entitled perverts who don’t respect boundaries”.Either some vast conspiracy is afoot or Watson is an entitled pervert who doesn’t respect boundaries.
Watson was soliciting massages from girls on Instagram from other cities and flying them in and meeting at random hotels. But yeah guy keep siding with him there is surely nothing to see here. If it was 1 or 2 then yeah I could see your point but it’s over 9 and that’s one hell of a conspiracyCall it a gut feeling but I’m siding with Deshaun here until I have something more concrete. It’s wayyyy too convenient that in the middle of him refusing to play for the Texans that this all surfaces. Someone brought up a possible addiction and I believe that may hold some weight. That said there is WAYYY too much grey area surrounding this whole ordeal. It’s too bad he stands so much to lose.
All a fair theory. As fair as any other. I don’t discount this as a possibility at all.Regarding conspiracy theories. The lawyer being next door neighbors with the owner and this coming out literally a few hours after they signed Tyrod Taylor makes it easy for people to jump to those thoughts.
But if you step back and think what the attorney and ownership would be risking it's insane to point of not being logical. I know I've pointed out the fact they live next to each other but that only makes it more illogical, that's like Aaron Hernandez dumping a body in a quarry less then a mile from his house kind of dumb and I usually give people more benefit of the doubt.
There is a more plausible though less drama filled explanation for the timing and it does make me think Watson being in the news with his trade requests might have ended up backfiring on him. This theory would involve Watson being at least guilty of what the first plaintiff accused him of doing, so with that assumption let's try and look through the plaintiff 1's point of view.
She thinks Watson acted inappropriately but nothing maybe so concrete she could move forward with pressing charges or doing anything with, just that she knows he acted inappropriately and she's not comfortable with how it went down. But she'd also likely know Watson is revered in Houston, might have likely thought she'd be the one coming out looking like the bad person if she tried to take on or take down a person of his stature especially when some might chalk up what happened during the massage as a "misunderstanding". So she just keeps it to herself, not happy the way it went down but not seeing a path to get her some justice.
Now fast forward to a few months later and Watson is in the news more then ever and to many people. Not all, maybe not even most, but a healthy amount of public perception has turned against Watson locally now. I've read and heard local sports radio in Houston since this started and some people blame Texans, some people blame Watson. Those who blame Watson are now labeling as not professional, not appreciative and selfish. So now perhaps the plaintiff is aware of this and concludes the temperature for taking on Watson in a legal setting is a little more ripe. Secondly you got the faction of media/people that put all or most of the blame on the Texans and continued to laud Watson's character. So again say you are the plaintiff and you are hearing people talk all day about how great Watson is but you know things that are different human nature would indicate that would start eating at you to get that out. And lastly, whether this is motive or not is another issue, plaintiff one knew who Watson was but might not have fully grasped his wealth and now on top of everything else she's hearing people talk about the contract he just accepted and she did of course want a 6 figure settlement.
So in summary I'm trying to paint a picture of a women who feels wronged, hearing people praise a guy all day she thinks is not so great who just signed a contract for a boat load of money and she's been stewing on all of this and due to changing public perception of Watson by some in Houston along with realization this guy just got paid she felt emboldened to reach out to a well known attorney, get her some justice and maybe some money.
I'm ok with anyone scoffing at my post but what is more believable, what I just laid out being some or mainly true or the attorney and owner, two men with a lot to lose, risking losing everything to tarnish Watson's name?
I am no way trying to say Watson is guilty, just trying to paint a more reasonable picture of the mindset of plaintiff one.
So at absolute best case scenario here Watson is still a complete moron.Men solicit sex workers all the time. It doesn’t make them “entitled perverts who don’t respect boundaries”.
the sex trade is a thing that is. Many interact online.
I don’t know who did what, but it’s important to clarify that sex workers are people too. Shaming them by making them the target of perversion isn’t appropriate in the same way that if they’re legitimate massage therapists being propositioned that is also not ok.
right now we don’t know which it is. Allegations.
maybe we should collectively put the pitchforks away until we do know is all I’m suggesting here.
These women were not sex workers. Jesus.Men solicit sex workers all the time. It doesn’t make them “entitled perverts who don’t respect boundaries”.
the sex trade is a thing that is. Many interact online.
I don’t know who did what, but it’s important to clarify that sex workers are people too. Shaming them by making them the target of perversion isn’t appropriate in the same way that if they’re legitimate massage therapists being propositioned that is also not ok.
right now we don’t know which it is. Allegations.
maybe we should collectively put the pitchforks away until we do know is all I’m suggesting here.
Careful you are going to join his ignore list.These women were not sex workers. Jesus.
It is no wonder women are afraid to come out against powerful men unless they have strength in numbers.
let’s wait and see what the final number is. 12 is enough for me though. The conspiracy theory angle is not remotely compelling to me.
If that happened there’s nothing wrong with it unless it was non-consensual, regardless of the number.Watson was soliciting massages from girls on Instagram from other cities and flying them in and meeting at random hotels. But yeah guy keep siding with him there is surely nothing to see here. If it was 1 or 2 then yeah I could see your point but it’s over 9 and that’s one hell of a conspiracy
we don’t know whether they are or are not.These women were not sex workers. Jesus.
I don’t disagree. But that is not what happened here.If that happened there’s nothing wrong with it unless it was non-consensual, regardless of the number.
No pun intended, there’s the rub.
That’s a possibility, yes - among the many possibilities that exist in our collective lack of knowledge.So at absolute best case scenario here Watson is still a complete moron.
Christ dude you are a piece of work.we don’t know whether they are or are not.
I thought I was ignored. So confusing.If that happened there’s nothing wrong with it unless it was non-consensual, regardless of the number.
No pun intended, there’s the rub.
We know they are massage therapists. They weren’t working at rub n tug’s.we don’t know whether they are or are not.
He flew in girls from random places to give him a “massage”. There is no lack of knowledge here. It’s pretty obvious.That’s a possibility, yes - among the many possibilities that exist in our collective lack of knowledge.
We don’t know anything yet except what the attorney alleges.I don’t disagree. But that is not what happened here.
And every girl’s onlyfans has only tasteful bikini photos, I’m sure.We know they are massage therapists. They weren’t working at rub n tug’s.
Brother...I read my Bible every day and pray to Jesus. Even I know where men go to get a release.These women were not sex workers. Jesus.
Do you think he is fabricating all of this? Out of thin air for the betterment of a nfl franchise?We don’t know anything yet except what the attorney alleges.
Don't feed the trolls.Do you think he is fabricating all of this? Out of thin air for the betterment of a nfl franchise?
All of this +1Brother...I read my Bible every day and pray to Jesus. Even I know where men go to get a release.
Not all massage parlors or licensed masseuses are SW. But let’s say for the sake of conversation some of them worked at happy ending or even “full service” salons.
SW are human beings. If these women did not consent then what Watson allegedly did was criminal sexual assault. LE should be involved.
That said, he’s entitled to all the facts coming out before we convict and sentence him.
I’m not a troll, but thanks for the personal attack out of nowhere.Don't feed the trolls.
LolAll of this +1
consent is the dividing line between assault & a transaction between two adults.
this will be my last post in here until more information is available.
This is borderline blaming the victimIf I was a massage therapist and someone is flying me in for a massage, my spidey senses would be tingling just a bit.
He ran for mayor and is a politician in addition to being a high profile litigator. There exists the possibility he stands to gain personally both financially and in public opinion.Do you think he is fabricating all of this? Out of thin air for the betterment of a nfl franchise?
Here’s what we know. Several women were solicited by a top 5 QB in the nfl by dm on Instagram to give him private massages. They all allege that he sexually assaulted them in some way. That’s what we know. Either they are all lying or he did it.That’s a possibility, yes - among the many possibilities that exist in our collective lack of knowledge.
Please don't put words in my mouth are assume what you think I mean.This is borderline blaming the victim
Good post. This is where the baseline starts. Read this before you post again. At the very minimum he is a moron.Here’s what we know. Several women were solicited by a top 5 QB in the nfl by dm on Instagram to give him private massages. They all allege that he sexually assaulted them in some way. That’s what we know. Either they are all lying or he did it.
That he is somehow being set up by the Texans to destroy his life because he wants out is flat earth conspiracy theory ####.
I don’t disagree with this. I’m just saying I think he did it. Of course he is and should be entitled to the presumption of innocence in a court of law. But this is a message board.Brother...I read my Bible every day and pray to Jesus. Even I know where men go to get a release.
Not all massage parlors or licensed masseuses are SW. But let’s say for the sake of conversation some of them worked at happy ending or even “full service” salons.
SW are human beings. If these women did not consent then what Watson allegedly did was criminal sexual assault. LE should be involved.
That said, he’s entitled to all the facts coming out before we convict and sentence him.
Agreed “believe all women” is a solid defaultI don’t disagree with this. I’m just saying I think he did it. Of course he is and should be entitled to the presumption of innocence in a court of law. But this is a message board.
No offense but it reads like they should know better. When in fact I am too old to know how this game is played.Please don't put words in my mouth are assume what you think I mean.
Take my most literally. Spidey sense means you think something is up. That's all I am saying.
They should probably know something isnt right, unless they think they are so awesome that people fly them in for a freaking massage.No offense but it reads like they should know better. When in fact I am too old to know how this game is played.