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That's a really tough question. I don't think anybody can know for sure, but what we do know for sure is that he hasn't done anything to warrant losing the job. He's averaging 4.5 ypc and has caught over 80% of his targets with only 1 drop (4.3%). I don't own him, but if someone wanted to include him in a package, I'd listen.
Gronk just wasn't a difference maker this season, and in many weeks he was a negative in your line-up. His injures have seemed to catch up to him. He's now one year closer to retirement (and would anyone be shocked if he does so this offseason?) and in a declining offense. I'm not sure you can get a second but I'd take it.
I'm not. Auction adds an additional skill contest to a start up draft. If that is what you want fine, but there is a poker like element to auction leagues and it is a complication that I and many others would rather not deal with.
Yeah, he has back problems and it was iffy he was going to return this year. That uncertainty about his future, plus his less than stellar fantasy numbers many weeks would make potential buyers a little gun shy.
I was listening to a Westwood 1 radio broadcast of a NE game a few months back and Ross Tucker noted that Gronk was moving as if he were in significant pain from back problems (Tucker said he recognized that as someone who has continuing back issues from his playing days).
Wondering the same thing... draft picks are tough to come by in my leagues. I'm thinking it might take a package, such as a RB and Sutton, to command a high pick.
All the top 5 RB's (Barkley/Gurley/Zeke/Kamara/CMC) are young and can catch passes. Taking any WR over them in a start up dynasty is bad decision IMO.Dawg Pound 69 said:
I picked Jones up on the waiver wire in our league. We have limited roster space and the guy that drafted him was making a playoff push. Minimum transaction fee was well worth it. Almost certain to be a new staff in Tampa so I think he gets another shot, but has to take advantage of itFF Ninja said:
If would be a tough pill to swallow but I have to agree. Will his back miraculously heal up after another season and a year older? Will Brady turn the clock back?
Owner said deal on a trade so waiting for him to go on and accept. Currently is Gronk and 2020 First (late) for 3.2 and 2020 1st (Early)
He screams value for 2019 for sure, the problem I have with Freeman is the injuries have piled up quite a bit these past 2 years and he might just be worn out by now. If he stays healthy I have no doubts he'd continue to be a RB1, but the injuries are concerning at this point. I have to wonder if he's even close to the same guy anymore. Coleman is likely gone yeah, but they have Ito Smith who they really like as a change of pace guy, and Brian Hill showed up this past week so he might be in the mix for more touches too. That backfield could very well look like 50/25/25 % for those 3 going into next year.
Pretty good overall. Drake really let me down this year and was unstartable in FF playoffs, but still technically came through with a RB2 finish in PPR. It will be interesting to see what becomes of him in the future because he has some talent as a change-of-pace guy, but his team doesn't trust him to be the man.
Really hard to gauge a guy off of a partial season. Like you say, this could be a run first team for the next few years. He could essentially be like 2018 Russell Wilson but probably without the insane TD/attempt ratio. I'd have a hard time expecting top 12 numbers from him in 2019. Obviously that's not all that important in dynasty, but I'd have a hard time ranking him above 9 or 10. I certainly wouldn't pay anything above that to acquire him.
He's a perfect kind of QB for a 1qb league. I think it's more likely he ends up crap than great, but he has the upside to be great and in a 1qb league it's no big deal if your QB (especially your backup) ends up being Droppable.
None of those guys are with much imo. But as flyers I'd take Ware, jarwin and rod Smith. Smith looked adequate when he's played but obviously isn't starting for a while barring injury.
Pretty close in value, Gus looked better at times but both are very replaceable.
I agree a new staff makes this backfield up in the air once again - heck they conceivably could bring in another RB, although that's probably not likely. I wouldn't read too much into the ybc with Lindsay though, his speed and elite lateral jump cuts probably played a huge role as to why he was able to get to the second level often. In the games I watch he often ran right up the middle into the gut of the defense so it wasn't like they were using him differently than Freeman either - so those stats are also likely a bit fluky due to a small sample size.
Yeah, I might be valuing situation too much with my rankings of Michel (knocking him for lack of targets) and Pettis (bumping him for lack of competition).
That's where I'd feel safe with everything. After 6 I'd probably still take Penny/Royce, then I'd consider a QB before the other WR's mostly.
My thoughts on Pettis:
Yep.
I’d add that Kirk (also not tall) outperformed Sutton. He only played in 12 games, had just as bad of a QB situation, and was only 90 receiving yards behind Sutton (in 15 games). Does he become the #1WR there? Does Fitz come back? Do they draft someone else?
Personally I am a buyer of all these guys. Kirk, Pettis, Lockett, Cooks, etc.
As someone who loves Pettis and acquired him in two leagues before the trade deadlines, I'd say consensus and trade value has him much lower than that and possibly after Kirk/Penny. Ridley and Sutton are way overvalued IMO and would slot in at 3 & 4 based on what I have seen for trades but I don't agree. Royce outside the 1st round and Anthony Miller still has his believers so moves him up to probably 12.
Mostly I'm just being stubborn on him. I hadn't seen a play of his during the season and before the draft even happened and I was doing my own "scouting", I watched 2 games of his and immediately wrote down "DO NOT DRAFT". I don't remember what it was exactly but he rubbed me the wrong way so I removed him. He definitely has value right now though as a possible #1, although I doubt it. That locker room is poised to draft a WR this year, maybe 2, and that whole room is shaken up. Pettis might be the only one I have some confidence in with an ability to compete for starting snaps, but a lot is up in the air.
Just prior to him looking like absolute crap in the fantasy playoffs, I traded him and Ito for ARob. Feeling pretty good about that one.
I bundled him with AJ Green and a mid-2nd, and managed to get back Thielen, Dede and a LB. Hard to say how much (or how little) Gronk contributed to that overall though.
I'm speaking as a guy that has 95% comfortability with what I have at TE in my leagues. I wouldn't offer anything more than a late 2nd. I count 7 TE's that I have rated higher, and another 3-5 more that would be questionable. Getting anything might be considered a win for Gronk owners. He has never been a guy I would want to buy and I have never owned him.
Yes last week sent Gronk and my late 2020 first for his 3.2 this year and 2020 First (top 3-5 overall) pretty confident.
I packaged Julio and Dalvin Cook for Hill in a 0.5PPR. Overall the board was pretty split on it.
I posted in the trade thread but I just moved Julio for Mahomes and a 2nd. I need a QB and I *think* I'm ready to move on from Julio. Still own him in a couple other spots. I know I want Mahomes.
I‘d be shoked if you can get more thatn a random 3rd. IMO there’s a good chance he might retire after this season.
yup. i'd need a lot more for Kittle. Gronk is basically a throw in at this point. Kittle >>>>> than (2) 2nds.
Probably a good idea to move on from him if you can because at this point I would phrase the chance he retires as more likely then not. And if he pops off some good postseason games that would not make me change course as much as I'd view it as he created a nice window to move him.
In my $325 cap IDP league, I sent AB plus a mid 1st for JuJu just before the week 17 debacle. Cap plays a bit of a role, as AB was $45 and got JuJu at $5, but there's an idea.Gottabesweet said:
