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Don't know about consensus but from my view, I wouldn't give a 1st for Dak in most leagues but with the right circumstances sure. The only reason gronk isn't a high first is risk of retiring this or next year.
Yeah, typically qbs aren’t going to go for much until there’s an injury. Some people higher on dak than others.
Gronk is kind of in limbo, but may be discounted at the moment.
As an owner of C.J. Anderson I can’t see moving him for a late 2nd. He’s currently a starting RB and even if he gets traded he’s got a good shot to compete for a starting role. He’s worth more to me as depth on my bench than a late 2nd would be.
There's a decent chance he's part of a rbbc next year. He may be worth more than a late 2nd to you but I don't think anyone is giving more than that for him right now.
The League I have cj in I’m coming off a somewhat lucky championship. I have some stuff to build around but need to get younger and move some assets before they lose all their value. If I can get something in the 2nd for him I’ll probably take my chance. I think there is some depth in this draft.
Would not want to rely on CJ as a starter, but he is productive for both fantasy and real life when he gets the workload. So that makes him a good spot play when you think game script will work in his favor.
He's got to go to another team I would think. He's got talent & can help many teams.
He’s gonna be 28 this season and he’s never had more than 100 carries in a season. Nope.
So if he goes to a team as a backup RB, what kind of dynasty value would he have at 28 years old? You may get handcuff value (late 3rd/4th).
Or he could be a flex start if he gets enough touches. Worst case, a bye week filler. In deep leagues that is more than rosterable. He's 28, not dead.
Maybe - I just don't see him being pursued in free agency for anything more than a veteran minimum contract. 28 is not dead for good RBs, but for a journeyman type player it's close to the end. I see him as depth on an NFL team at this point. I could surely be wrong about it though.
I'd rather keep my 3rd and throw another dart on a rookie, or pick up an un-kept veteran in the draft, than have Gillislee on my roster.No, but there you go. He must have value
Not a popular opinion but Lewis could well be gone, Burkhead is a FA and I don't think it is a given NE cuts him so call me a Gilly truther but he still has value imho.
Baldwin is 1.5 years older than Marvin and they're coming off similar (total score) seasons. I might be in the minority, but I'd flip those 2 values.
Baldwin: Mid/Late 1st
Goff (23.4)
Goff
Well I’m the guy that traded dak for mahomes straight up, so no surprise as to how I see them.
I was going to say the same about mariota. He stunk this year but I don’t think he was ever healthy. And the coaching/young WRs didn’t do him any favors. Still, he lead the team back a bunch late in games and is the only one in the group who has won playoff game. That suggests staying power. I’d easily rank him first among this group IF we were ignoring situation.Concept Coop said:
Yeah but Mariota came crashing down from perceived potential, not actual performance. Prior to his "setbacks" this year (in quotes because they weren't really setbacks so much as they were a failure to improve) he was QB22 and QB16 in the prior two years. He just didn't get any better.
Baldwin - 1.6-1.9
Goff-former #1 pick, just had a very productive season and his Coach appears to know a real lot about offense and is going to surround him with a lot of talent at the skill positionsConcept Coop said:
I own him in one league and consider him a hold. Probably fairly cheap depending on what someone gave for him (I imagine he’s been moved at least once in most leagues). I think he will still have flex value this year with Pittsburgh, and has the tools to be more than that down the road if he keeps his nose clean. Contract year motivation may help him stay focused. Even if he has a meh year, he will hold some value. Ben still took his shots but seemed to miss him on those this year.
GoffConcept Coop said:
I have tried to move him repeatedy this offseason from a team deep at WR, and can't find any takers at all.
Concept Coop said:
This is closest to how I see it. Almost verbatim. I don't know the others leadership but Mariota is exactly who we want as Titans fan, other than his propensity to get dinged and injured.FF Ninja said:
Yeah, I wouldn't be shocked if Mariota ends up with the best career: https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/marcus-mariota/
I own him in 2 leagues as I think he can be Jeffery when free agency hits in 2019. Is it really his risk factor, or is it that he's the 4th option on that offense now? I don't know the answer to that but his ceiling is high, and if J. Gordon can have higher value, then I don't see why Martavis' would be lower. I'd sell for a late 1st, but I doubt anyone would offer that. I've tried to use him in packages but he seems to be deterring people from accepting offers I throw out.
Yea everyone loves Juju. I currently have the 1.01 owner in negotiations right now. I've offered Bell and there are some other pieces involved, and he says he likes the offer but is pushing for Juju instead of Bell. Not as a straight replacement in the offer but as my main piece to offer.Arodin said:
