JamieMurphy
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He's starting to go late in the first round in high stakes drafts behind Hopkins and Adams.
Thanks for the tidbit on Darrel Williams, hadn't heard much about him at all.I think that is about right although you do need to remember that KC was not only missing Hunt during the stretch you are talking about but Watkins also. A healthy Watkins for an entire year (yes, I know a tall order) as well as added weapon in Hardman may decrease the effect of missing Hunt.
Last year there was also talk that the Chiefs loved Darrel (not Damien) Williams so much that they kept him on the active roster because they thought he would get signed away on the PS. He didnt do alot with his limited opportunities last year but someone I will be watching as a Chiefs fan through the preseason.
EZE pulled down a woman's shirt in front of the whole world. If you or I did that we'd be on the sex offender registry for life.Ezekiel Elliot is considered a repeat offender, but if you look at the previous offenses it isn't even close; Hill has much worse ones. I'm researching Jarran Reed's background and I don't even think he has a previous offense.
Face value, we may not know everything of Hill's but we do know there was a verbal threat and a child has a broken arm (Hill contested Espinal broke it)... I would think Hill as a repeat offender would get a game or two just because of the comment. @rockaction yeah King sounds stunned, but Sports Illustrated does give a fairer take of the situation in this article by Michael McCann (SI’s legal analyst).
If was stupid of him, but the woman was in his group and had a consensual sexual relationship with him.EZE pulled down a woman's shirt in front of the whole world. If you or I did that we'd be on the sex offender registry for life.
So? Do you think she asked him to do it? Being in a consensual sexual relationship with someone doesn't give you the legal right to do whatever you want to their body in public. Or private for that matter.If was stupid of him, but the woman was in his group and had a consensual sexual relationship with him.
it was dumb of him but not a crime. She didn't have an issue with it.So? Do you think she asked him to do it? Being in a consensual sexual relationship with someone doesn't give you the legal right to do whatever you want to their body in public. Or private for that matter.
But if she did decide she had an issue with it, it was a crime. That's what made it dumb. Putting your fate totally in someone else's hands on an immature whim, with the previous incident that was being investigated all over the news, is what probably pissed off the league office about it. Not the actual act. That dumbassery is why Zeke seemingly has his own chair in Goodell's office over every little incident, right or wrong.it was dumb of him but not a crime. She didn't have an issue with it.
heard Schefter is reporting bruised quad......and Tyreek is hurt. Limped off practice field.
Yep, just saw the tweet. Good news.heard Schefter is reporting bruised quad...
Hopefully just a charley horse.Yep, just saw the tweet. Good news.
Someone was probably just teaching him Muay ThaiHopefully just a charley horse.
Deleted my comment. Decided it wasn't that funny.https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/07/30/report-tyreek-hill-bruised-his-quad/
You tell tell Florio didnt write this article.
Neither is this one.Deleted my comment. Decided it wasn't that funny.
Deleted my comment. Decided it wasn't that funny.
It's a hell of a thing, deleting a post. You take away all its got and all its ever gonna have.Neither is this one.
Someone was probably just teaching him Muay Thai
Thats believable, right?
Don't quote him. I have him on ignore for a reason.......lol.Can we not do this all season in this thread? Jesus
Big money/expert drafts he's going around the turn. Softer drafts somewhere in the 2nd round.So, where are people drafting Hill ? Late 1st round (after the top echelon of RBs are gone and after Hopkins and Davante Adams) ? Before Michael Thomas or Julio ?
And does the fact that the slightest infraction would seemingly lead to a lengthy suspension, cause you to be a bit gun-shy with taking him say late in the 1st round (of a 1/2 point PPR league) ?
matter of preference I guess....you could make a case for him anywhere from 1-6 probably....if looking for a tiebreaker the schedule may be something to consider...So, where are people drafting Hill ? Late 1st round (after the top echelon of RBs are gone and after Hopkins and Davante Adams) ? Before Michael Thomas or Julio ?
And does the fact that the slightest infraction would seemingly lead to a lengthy suspension, cause you to be a bit gun-shy with taking him say late in the 1st round (of a 1/2 point PPR league) ?
good for you....but I don't think that really applies now....and a few weeks ago that wasn't necessarily stealing....Few weeks ago I stole him in the 4th in a redraft
Has to be more than Watkins got so if it is a 3 year deal I would think it's in the 55-60 range. Tyreek might have given the Chiefs a discount though.....There is some internet chatter that a contract extension is likely close to being announced, around 3 years for $45 to $48 million. With Adam Schefter also reporting that Drew Rosenhaus was discussing a new deal with the Chiefs today, it appears that an extension is very likely/close to happening. It will be interesting to see the final numbers. The $45 to $48 million value is not coming from Schefter.
Hope the Chiefs have some out clauses, I'm sure they will. Hill seems like a troubled guy.There is some internet chatter that a contract extension is likely close to being announced, around 3 years for $45 to $48 million. With Adam Schefter also reporting that Drew Rosenhaus was discussing a new deal with the Chiefs today, it appears that an extension is very likely/close to happening. It will be interesting to see the final numbers. The $45 to $48 million value is not coming from Schefter.
He could be giving the Chiefs a discount in the short term with the understanding of the contract being renegotiated in a year or 2 as long as he stays trouble free. Just a guess. We will see when the numbers are released. If it is in the $45 to $48 million range, it will give a lot of credibility to the Twitter source who released the info. They have been pretty accurate so far, just the complete opposite of the media regarding Hill’s situation.Has to be more than Watkins got so if it is a 3 year deal I would think it's in the 55-60 range. Tyreek might have given the Chiefs a discount though.....
He narrowly avoided getting a lot less, so giving up a little discount is probably mutually advantageous for Tyreek and KCHe could be giving the Chiefs a discount in the short term with the understanding of the contract being renegotiated in a year or 2 as long as he stays trouble free. Just a guess. We will see when the numbers are released. If it is in the $45 to $48 million range, it will give a lot of credibility to the Twitter source who released the info. They have been pretty accurate so far, just the complete opposite of the media regarding Hill’s situation.
With the NFL not suspended him at all, that is telling me all I need to know. The NFL gives suspensions out like candy. There is absolutely no benefit to the NFL to not suspend Hill, the only logical reason is Tyreek isn’t the monster the media has made 90% of the public believe. The NFL got destroyed by the media for not suspending Hill. The Chiefs are getting destroyed by keeping him. Tyreek is a great player but he isn’t worth all this negative backlash unless there is a lot more to this story than the public has been told.Hope the Chiefs have some out clauses, I'm sure they will. Hill seems like a troubled guy.
I'm having a hard time valuing him in dynasty. He may be available in my league but makes me nervous to make a legit play for him. On the other side, upside is obviously very tempting.
This.With the NFL not suspended him at all, that is telling me all I need to know. The NFL gives suspensions out like candy. There is absolutely no benefit to the NFL to not suspend Hill, the only logical reason is Tyreek isn’t the monster the media has made 90% of the public believe. The NFL got destroyed by the media for not suspending Hill. The Chiefs are getting destroyed by keeping him. Tyreek is a great player but he isn’t worth all this negative backlash unless there is a lot more to this story than the public has been told.
I agree with this but 17/yr is just a tad more than Watkins but a great discount for a WR like Tyreek. I would think that would be a great compromise. I'm not basing that on anything though.He narrowly avoided getting a lot less, so giving up a little discount is probably mutually advantageous for Tyreek and KC
I mentioned this earlier.....they knew they would get backlash for zero games so they must have felt pretty strongly he didn’t do anything wrong.....it would have been easy to give him a few games.....lot harder to give him noneWith the NFL not suspended him at all, that is telling me all I need to know. The NFL gives suspensions out like candy. There is absolutely no benefit to the NFL to not suspend Hill, the only logical reason is Tyreek isn’t the monster the media has made 90% of the public believe. The NFL got destroyed by the media for not suspending Hill. The Chiefs are getting destroyed by keeping him. Tyreek is a great player but he isn’t worth all this negative backlash unless there is a lot more to this story than the public has been told.
Come on... Are you serious? Does anyone think he did nothing wrong?I mentioned this earlier.....they knew they would get backlash for zero games so they must have felt pretty strongly he didn’t do anything wrong.....it would have been easy to give him a few games.....lot harder to give him none
Nope. He gets suspended every single time if they even thought he did something.Come on... Are you serious? Does anyone think he did nothing wrong?
Anyway, yes, they knew they'd get backlash for giving him nothing, but surely they knew they'd get more backlash for giving him 4 games, 6, whatever, for what amounts to a bad smell, if there was no hard evidence. Barring any evidence that he abused his kid I feel like they just did the same thing as they did early in the Ray Rice situation - turn a blind eye until there is some glaring evidence they have to address.
That said, I'm pretty surprised they didn't give him a game or two for the obvious verbal abuse toward his son's mother on the tape. That is by definition verbal abuse.
Anyway, I'm going to go back to playing Avengers with my little boys. Hopefully they don't end up with broken bones.
Nope.Nope. He gets suspended every single time if they even thought he did something.
I'm comfortable giving the benefit of the doubt he did nothing wrong.Come on... Are you serious? Does anyone think he did nothing wrong?
Anyway, yes, they knew they'd get backlash for giving him nothing, but surely they knew they'd get more backlash for giving him 4 games, 6, whatever, for what amounts to a bad smell, if there was no hard evidence. Barring any evidence that he abused his kid I feel like they just did the same thing as they did early in the Ray Rice situation - turn a blind eye until there is some glaring evidence they have to address.
That said, I'm pretty surprised they didn't give him a game or two for the obvious verbal abuse toward his son's mother on the tape. That is by definition verbal abuse.
Anyway, I'm going to go back to playing Avengers with my little boys. Hopefully they don't end up with broken bones.
He’s better off saying nothing.
Looks like he was warned for@Stinkin Ref nailed it. Not seeing many apologies round here. Rather than suspending him @FBG Moderator should be offering him a staff position. Dude may have saved countless people from ruining their dynasty teams.
The "told you so / rub their nose in it" type posts never are good.oh believe me....the "I told you so" post is in the works...it’s in the editing room right now....the biggest hold up is going back through all the ChiefsD, Buffaloes, VoiceofReason, FreeBagel, KittenMittens, Dr. Dan, Aanarchy99, Dr. Octopus, Bazinga! Bronco Billy, etc…and trying not to leave anybody out…..
Oh none of us we'll get apologizes. The people that jumped the gun will never allow themselves to be wrong about this. In their mind they are still right.@Stinkin Ref nailed it. Not seeing many apologies round here. Rather than suspending him @FBG Moderator should be offering him a staff position. Dude may have saved countless people from ruining their dynasty teams.
...I guess the "editing room" portion was somehow taken seriously.....lol.......Looks like he waswarnedsuspended for
The "told you so / rub their nose in it" type posts never are good.
Aside from that one, his other posts on this have been excellent. Thanks for posting @Stinkin Ref and I hope you'll keep with it.
I actually enjoy when old posts are quoted. I think recognizing thinking errors and also posters that don't come back to face the heat are some that I take less seriously....I guess the "editing room" portion was somehow taken seriously.....lol.......
guess its just a one way street around here....its okay all day to tell somebody they were right and made a great call on a guy in fantasy and give em a pat on the back.....but you can't tell somebody they were wrong and made a bad call....we are too sensitive for that and can't deal with it....that's being mean and "not excellent".....gotta be puppies and rainbows 24/7...
Hi Stinkin Ref,...I guess the "editing room" portion was somehow taken seriously.....lol.......
guess its just a one way street around here....its okay all day to tell somebody they were right and made a great call on a guy in fantasy and give em a pat on the back.....but you can't tell somebody they were wrong and made a bad call....we are too sensitive for that and can't deal with it....that's being mean and "not excellent".....gotta be puppies and rainbows 24/7...
Add @Stinkin Ref to your payroll and he might share. Dude had mahommes as qb1 last yearOn that note, if you guys could let me know accurately exactly how the Melvin Gordon and Ezekiel Elliott situations will play out, I'd REALLY appreciate it.
Sure. We're always looking for great writers. @Stinkin Ref shoot me an email to bryant@footballguys.com with writing samples and links and we'll take a look. Thanks. Put "Contributor Position" in the title please. Thanks.Add @Stinkin Ref to your payroll and he might share. Dude had mahommes as qb1 last year
Lol....please don’t let my brother from another mother pull your chain.....he’s just trying to pimp me out to get me out of the Mock Draft Forum and IBL forums which are the only places I really belong....I get in trouble if I venture out of there as you can see....plus my fantasy opinions would make your VBD head explode...and I use too many of these ellipsis things....Sure. We're always looking for great writers. @Stinkin Ref shoot me an email to bryant@footballguys.com with writing samples and links and we'll take a look. Thanks. Put "Contributor Position" in the title please. Thanks.