Andrew Brandt
@AndrewBrandt
As I've told people for 20 years, @packers ARE aggressive with free agents. As long as they are pending free agents on their own team..
Signed the best tackle in the game to protect Rodgers going forward or in a few years protect love. Was it pricey? Yeah...but the guy is a flat out stud and you keep studs.I don't know. Seems like they handcuffed themselkves here
Maybe. I’m not really able to follow the business side of the game. I’m an OL geek and have enjoyed watching #69 play the past couple seasons, so I’m happy tonight.I don't know. Seems like they handcuffed themselkves here
Oh i don't disagree at all, he's great. I just think they really handcuffed themselves with the huge salary.Maybe. I’m not really able to follow the business side of the game. I’m an OL geek and have enjoyed watching #69 play the past couple seasons, so I’m happy tonight.
Meh...Im not so sure you can really compare to basketball draft picks...the value isn't nearly the same in basketball. In addition, its a sport where one player makes that much of a difference vs. football.@CletiusMaximus, the Bucks mortgaging the future and going all-in right now for Giannis is exactly how I'd like the Packers to operate. Don't play it safe to be consistently very good; take a risk in order to possibly be the best.
Not sure he will shadow either this week. But if I had to guess...just based on size...they would put King on Pittman and Jaire on Hilton.If Alexander plays this weekend will he likely cover Hilton or Pittman?
He didn’t really need a crystal ball to guess that neither guy would contribute much this year.He's probably kicking himself for not getting his crystal ball fixed before the draft
What would be the point of a middle line backer...Pettine would just fail to actually use him.I'm sure Packers GM Brian Gutekunst is now kicking himself for trading up in 1st round to draft Jordan Love when he could had taken Tee Higgins. And then take ILB Willie Gay instead of AJ Dillon to fortify his team defense.
I don’t like to get in to who he could have drafted. Easy to name players after season is underway.I'm sure Packers GM Brian Gutekunst is now kicking himself for trading up in 1st round to draft Jordan Love when he could had taken Tee Higgins. And then take ILB Willie Gay instead of AJ Dillon to fortify his team defense.
QB yes. RB, no. I disagree given contract situations that it was an awful move on its own.I don’t like to get in to who he could have drafted. Easy to name players after season is underway.
I don’t think anyone will dispute, however, his choice to draft a qb and a Rb in first two rounds was beyond dumb.
Could have drafted a running back in 2021 or signed a complimentary back (they are not expensive).QB yes. RB, no. I disagree given contract situations that it was an awful move on its own.
Aaron Jones will cost a ton...a ton they don't have. He would have still costed quite a bit coming off of what he did last year. Not sure he is worth that type of money if he wants Dalvin Cook/McCaffrey money.Could have drafted a running back in 2021 or signed a complimentary back (they are not expensive).
Aaron Jones should have been re-signed prior to this season and should still be re-signed.
running back in the second round was an absolute waste due to the fact The window is closed in 2-3 years.
I have no doubt that they will resign Aaron Jones. This roster will look very different next year as they cut or avoid resigning Linsley, King, Preston Smith, Kirksey, Amos, etc. to stay under the cap.Aaron Jones will cost a ton...a ton they don't have. He would have still costed quite a bit coming off of what he did last year. Not sure he is worth that type of money if he wants Dalvin Cook/McCaffrey money.
And yeah...could have could have could have. sure. Or you could use this year for what it is...a redshirt given what they were thinking then of maybe not even getting to play...and have a guy ready to step in next year. I just don't fault RB as much as I do QB then...
Agree on some of this...but I don't think they resign Jones...I think Jamal gets an Ekeler type deal and its he and Dillon next year.I have no doubt that they will resign Aaron Jones. This roster will look very different next year as they cut or avoid resigning Linsley, King, Preston Smith, Kirksey, Amos, etc. to stay under the cap.
My biggest issue with AJ Dillion is not that they drafted him, but that they don't use him. How many times are they going to pass on 3rd and 1. Rodgers refuses to run sneaks and the won't bring in the 250 lb rb to gain a yard.
I just can't see them not bringing back Jones. He has been too productive and too dynamic to this offense. I agree he may not be worth the price, but maybe they front load the deal. I think Jamal walks and they draft another back in the middle rounds. I could be wrong here.Agree on some of this...but I don't think they resign Jones...I think Jamal gets an Ekeler type deal and its he and Dillon next year.
Preston can go...he has been a disappointment all year and yesterday sealed that...he was flat out awful...yet always on the field. I just couldn't get over how stubborn they were to try to change yesterday. Keeping him on over and over...and sticking with nickel and dime defense that wasn't working.
I wonder if the reasoning behind not sneaking was using Jenkins at C vs having Linsley out there. Then Jenkins still got beat by his guy which forced a quicker throw.
Thought I read in here somewhere that they’ve been using Preston in coverage more this year.Agree on some of this...but I don't think they resign Jones...I think Jamal gets an Ekeler type deal and its he and Dillon next year.
Preston can go...he has been a disappointment all year and yesterday sealed that...he was flat out awful...yet always on the field. I just couldn't get over how stubborn they were to try to change yesterday. Keeping him on over and over...and sticking with nickel and dime defense that wasn't working.
I wonder if the reasoning behind not sneaking was using Jenkins at C vs having Linsley out there. Then Jenkins still got beat by his guy which forced a quicker throw.
He got worked by Burton on that td catchThought I read in here somewhere that they’ve been using Preston in coverage more this year.
Yeah. But the coaches mis-using him isn’t his fault. Put him on the edge and let him get at the QB. He’s being mis-used this year. It’s odd.He got worked by Burton on that td catch
If the Packers were say the Jaguars and far away from competing then they should not resign Jones because it wouldn’t make any sense to.I just can't see them not bringing back Jones. He has been too productive and too dynamic to this offense. I agree he may not be worth the price, but maybe they front load the deal. I think Jamal walks and they draft another back in the middle rounds. I could be wrong here.
I considered Jenkins at center being a factor. It's just frustrating watching them pass out of shotgun on 3rd and 4th and short. The entire narrative around drafting Dillon was how ineffective they were in short yardage last year.
To be fair he has been abysmal in every facet on D. He looks totally unprepared out there. Huge drop off from last season.Yeah. But the coaches mis-using him isn’t his fault. Put him on the edge and let him get at the QB. He’s being mis-used this year. It’s odd.
They have the money and Jones is an elite back. They need to let Jamal walk and pay Jones.Aaron Jones will cost a ton...a ton they don't have. He would have still costed quite a bit coming off of what he did last year. Not sure he is worth that type of money if he wants Dalvin Cook/McCaffrey money.
And yeah...could have could have could have. sure. Or you could use this year for what it is...a redshirt given what they were thinking then of maybe not even getting to play...and have a guy ready to step in next year. I just don't fault RB as much as I do QB then...
Lol. Probably.If I go back far enough will I find you guys saying Ted Thompson should be fired for not trading for Larry Johnson?
I can...not sure they value RB at that price. When they can keep Jamal for much less plus a rookie contract for Dillon. I think it was the plan when they drafted Dillon.I just can't see them not bringing back Jones. He has been too productive and too dynamic to this offense. I agree he may not be worth the price, but maybe they front load the deal. I think Jamal walks and they draft another back in the middle rounds. I could be wrong here.
I considered Jenkins at center being a factor. It's just frustrating watching them pass out of shotgun on 3rd and 4th and short. The entire narrative around drafting Dillon was how ineffective they were in short yardage last year.
He did and Amos screwed the pooch jumping to the other TEs off the line leaving it one on one with Preston.He got worked by Burton on that td catch
They have the money? Not sure where you are seeing that. They were already up against things pretty good and just gave Bahktiari a big pay day (granted...much of his is backloaded).They have the money and Jones is an elite back. They need to let Jamal walk and pay Jones.
In a normal year I would be livid at the money Bakhtari got but this is it - the closing of a small window. Have to maximize cap now and pay the Piper down the road.
Peter Bukowski @Peter_Bukowski
All 5 of the #Packers offensive linemen are top-10 in their position in ESPN's Pass Block Win Rate.
Billy Turner is #1 among OTs
David Bakhtiari is #3 among OTs
Corey Linsley is #3 among C's
Lucas Patrick is #9 among G's
Elgton Jenkins is #10 among G's
Liked hearing Rodgers talk about Jenkins...saying it as a compliment that when you see him play each position you think it may be his best position. That he can just slide pretty seamlessly around and produce at a high level.Remember when the Packers were all dumb as rocks for signing Billy Turner? This OL is such a pleasure to watch.
Exactly. They're using him differently this year and thus his production is down.Thought I read in here somewhere that they’ve been using Preston in coverage more this year.
MVS had a really good game today. Tonyan looks awesome. Chmura part 2 minus the hot tub.At one point in today's game the TV announcer said "Rodgers has so many options." He must not follow this thread or listen to any Packer fans. Seems they complain about how the front office fails to get Rodgers any weapons. Maybe they know what they already have. MVS had a really good game and show promise if he could be more consistent. Tonyan is looking to be solid.
Love to see them playing as a team. Exciting to watch guys like MVS, Savage and Gary step up.The Packers have now won 7 of the last 10 NFC North Championships (Vikings 2, Bears 1) and are the NFC #1 seed today. They have won 14 division titles since 1995, the second-most in the NFL in that time (New England, 19). They have won 10 games or more in 10 of the last 14 seasons. Matt LaFleur's NFC North record is 10-1.
Looking back at the 2019 NFL Draft after 18 months, we can confidently say drafting Gary, Savage and Jenkins in the first 50 picks has a floor of being a great draft and a ceiling of being a home run draft.
Please tell me about how "dumb" the Packers are for drafting for the future, why they should go all-in on big name free agents and plan to suck for a couple years while rebuilding, or how the front office settles for mediocrity and "doesn't want to win."
Agreed, but Pettine still needs to go, like last week.Love to see them playing as a team. Exciting to watch guys like MVS, Savage and Gary step up.
Really glad to be wrong anytime I’m negative about this team.
Still a couple of teams worry me in the playoffs. I think the Rams with their combination of offense and defense gives us problems. Seattle could be a shootout. Saints the second time around could be a problem if Brees is healthy.Agreed, but Pettine still needs to go, like last week.
Agreed 100%Still a couple of teams worry me in the playoffs. I think the Rams with their combination of offense and defense gives us problems. Seattle could be a shootout. Saints the second time around could be a problem if Brees is healthy.
I think they know what they have on Tonyan...MVS...I think they know he has talent but still hasn't put it all together. This past week was a nice sign for him...but will he keep going. That was not the typical MVS game of 2-3 catches one being a deep ball. He was catching the intermediate stuff...making contested catches...and gulp, a back shoulder TD. Hell, two back shoulder balls to WRs the other day when we have not seen all that much of that since Jordy left. That doesn't mean they still should not have improved the weapons around Rodgers IMO.At one point in today's game the TV announcer said "Rodgers has so many options." He must not follow this thread or listen to any Packer fans. Seems they complain about how the front office fails to get Rodgers any weapons. Maybe they know what they already have. MVS had a really good game and show promise if he could be more consistent. Tonyan is looking to be solid.
Agreed, but Pettine still needs to go, like last week.
I believe he does need to go yes...and yes, Henry will run for a ton.Man, Henry is going to run for a gazillion yards on this D in 2 weeks.
They sure get after the pass though...