barackdhouse
Footballguy
That 0 was not cool. Hope he is ok. Sounds lame.
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TE Noah Fant, SEA (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter BigTex
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Lost by 4 with 0s from him and Deebo. Not sure when I’ll get over it but it certainly isn’t now.
Faust
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STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Might be the most underrated TE this year. A lot of people dont even know who this dude is. He's a stud muffin.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
He is terrific. Was never really healthy after Week 4 last year (ankle) but still showed great development. Terrible QB situation and two really good WRs who will command a lot of targets. Every bit as talented as Hock, if they ever get a decent QB he could jump into the Kelce-Waller-Kittle tier. That ain’t happening this year.
Couldn’t believe his name popped up in one of the DND/Stop the Suck threads. Mans gonna go a handful of Pro Bowls if he stays healthy.
Instinctive
Footballguy
So what's his path to being top 1-2 in targets in Denver? Seems like he's behind Sutton and Jeudy...basically all top TE finishes ever have been first or second in their team in targets.
That seems like reason number one to avoid this year.
That seems like reason number one to avoid this year.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I am seeing Fant being drafted at pick 87 in real drafts on MFL.
You may be right that to be the number one or top 2 or 3 TE any given season requires a lot of targets and Fant might be 3rd in targets for Denver, so unlikely he outscores Kelce or Waller.
I think there is a big difference between being not likely to be the best TE for fantasy this season and being a player to avoid. Especially at that price.
Totally agree. Fant is extremely talented - it's a matter of whether Bridgewater or Lock can take advantage of his skillset. He's very fast for a TE and can win down field. I actually think the "good" version of Drew Lock would be better for him than Bridgewater but that's hard to count on, of course. Either way, tight ends take longer to develop than other positions and they often get better with age. Not unlike catchers in baseball. I've always thought that Ertz's career trajectory is interesting - he took a leap in year 2, another in year 3, then stayed the same for 3 years (with the narrative emerging that he didn't score TD's) and then took a huge leap in year 6. In any case, I think Fant has a solid floor and a pretty substantial ceiling if he can get solid play from his QB.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I have Fant on some teams and I had him last season.
Totally agree. Fant is extremely talented - it's a matter of whether Bridgewater or Lock can take advantage of his skillset. He's very fast for a TE and can win down field. I actually think the "good" version of Drew Lock would be better for him than Bridgewater but that's hard to count on, of course. Either way, tight ends take longer to develop than other positions and they often get better with age. Not unlike catchers in baseball. I've always thought that Ertz's career trajectory is interesting - he took a leap in year 2, another in year 3, then stayed the same for 3 years (with the narrative emerging that he didn't score TD's) and then took a huge leap in year 6. In any case, I think Fant has a solid floor and a pretty substantial ceiling if he can get solid play from his QB.
I thought he was fine. He outperformed a bunch of guys I had ranked higher than him last year.
Just depends on ones expectations I guess.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Yeah fair. When I say top I'm thinking top half, so TE6 in a typical 12-teamer. Aside from the obvious Kelce and Waller, I see Kittle, Pitts, Hockenson, and Andrews all with paths to be a top two target.
I could see that with Fant actually if Sutton never truly recovers or reinjures. But just seems less likely. That's what I'm banking on though. "good value" landing me TE7+ is kinda useless.
I could see that with Fant actually if Sutton never truly recovers or reinjures. But just seems less likely. That's what I'm banking on though. "good value" landing me TE7+ is kinda useless.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Robert Tonyan was fourth in the Packers in targets. All it takes is an 88% catch rate and the historic red zone conversion rate.
I kid, l kid. Tonyan is an avoid. Big-time regression coming unless we see a huge uptick in volume. Logan Thomas is in an avoid. Led all TEs in slot routes run - by a good margin, like 47. Over 100 to the guy who’s 10th on that list. Curtis Samuel is now there; not gonna be the same. 29 years old going to be 30 this year; probably not Delanie Walker.
with Fant, Hock, Goedert, Andrews, Pitts - I’m betting talent. BIG drop after #3. Drop fm 4th through 8th will be narrow IMO.
Natural progression and development. Nothing extraordinary. No elaborate narratives to construct. He is reliable and efficient and his quarterback trusts him.
nittanylion
Footballguy
I agree that Fant is a TE1 (Top 12) with a High Floor/Low Ceiling that will keep him out of the Top 8. IMHO, he'll finish in the 9-12 range. Not only does he have to compete with Sutton/Jeudy for primary targets, but between Gordon/Williams/Boone/Patrick/Hamler/Okie are going to siphon out of remaining available targets, just not sure he's going to get as much work as others might think. Denver has a lot of 'real football' weapons, and if they're going to win games, they're going to have to utilize them all to get the most out of Lock/Bridgewater, methinks. Pity there's not a better QB to take advantage of what that offense could bring to the table.
Tanner9919
Footballguy
unless/until Denver gets a QB I think the TE position there is null and void.
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
The Frankman
Footballguy
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GreenNGold
Footballguy
I didn't think anyone on Denver's offense was worth targeting this year... however for those in dynasty/keeper leagues, there is a good chance that Rodgers will be Denver's QB next year, so you may want to acquire Fant this year if you can get him cheap in hopes of that happening.
The Frankman
Footballguy
JohnnyU
Footballguy
The Frankman
Footballguy
Boston
Footballguy
I would think so…no reason for his value to be high…he has been very frustrating…looks the part but gets dinged up and his week-to-week play is inconsistent…his QBs are a definite issue but unfortunately that appears to not be changing anytime soon.
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Heading towards Njoku territory in dynasty circles. There's potential here but Seattle seems like a dumpster fire. Wouldn't be surprised when Pete is canned or retires due to health reasons.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Sucks he went to Seattle. Dude would be a absolute stud with a good QB.
