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TRUMP TO INFINITY AND BEYOND HQ - The Great and Positive Place (3 Viewers)

knowledge dropper said:
Don’t know And don’t care.  Mitch is a Senator from Kentucky.  It’s not my place to judge his motives.  
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Well we don’t really know. But one of them is lying.

The president is going on and on about his perfectly fine call, that everyone agrees it’s a perfectly fine call even the Senate Majority Leader says so we talk about it all the time and he says it was a perfect call. 

That McConnell says he never said this doesn’t interest you? Perhaps Donald who has been known to repeat a lie or 3 does this you don’t want to judge his motives?

I don’t believe you.

 
Don't Noonan said:
You didn't read the Mueller report?  It is a direct quote.
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The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion. Evidence of Russian government operations began to surface in mid-2016. In June, the Democratic National Committee and its cyber response team publicly announced that Russian hackers had compromised its computer network. Releases of hacked materials—hacks that public reporting soon attributed to the Russian government—began that same month. Additional releases followed in July through the organization WikiLeaks, with further releases in October and November.

In late July 2016, soon after WikiLeaks’s first release of stolen documents, a foreign government contacted the FBI about a May 2016 encounter with Trump Campaign foreign policy advisor George Papadopoulos. Papadopoulos had suggested to a representative of that foreign government that the Trump Campaign had received indications from the Russian government that it could assist the Campaign through the anonymous release of information damaging to Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. That information prompted the FBI on July 31, 2016, to open an investigation into whether individuals associated with the Trump Campaign were coordinating with the Russian government in its interference activities.

That fall, two federal agencies jointly announced that the Russian government “directed recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including US political organizations,” and, “[t]hese thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process.” After the election, in late December 2016, the United States imposed sanctions on Russia for having interfered in the election. By early 2017, several congressional committees were examining Russia’s interference in the election.

Within the Executive Branch, these investigatory efforts ultimately led to the May 2017 appointment of Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller, III. The order appointing the Special Counsel authorized him to investigate “the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election,” including any links or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the Trump Campaign.

As set forth in detail in this report, the Special Counsel’s investigation established that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election principally through two operations. First, a Russian entity carried out a social media campaign that favored presidential candidate Donald J. Trump and disparaged presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. Second, a Russian intelligence service conducted computer-intrusion operations against entities, employees, and volunteers working on the Clinton Campaign and then released stolen documents. The investigation also identified numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign. Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.

Below we describe the evidentiary considerations underpinning statements about the results of our investigation and the Special Counsel’s charging decisions, and we then provide an overview of the two volumes of our report.

The report describes actions and events that the Special Counsel’s Office found to be supported by the evidence collected in our investigation. In some instances, the report points out the absence of evidence or conflicts in the evidence about a particular fact or event. In other instances, when substantial, credible evidence enabled the Office to reach a conclusion with confidence, the report states that the investigation established that certain actions or events occurred. A statement that the investigation did not establish particular facts does not mean there was no evidence of those facts.
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Don't Noonan said:
Considering the guy heading the investigation is a proven liar and leaker, no.
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Trump is a proven liar and leaks things all the time. This isn’t what you are concerned about :lol:

They already have enough to impeach him, just a matter of continuing to get the public enough behind it to get Senate to do their part. Many Republicans are dying to cut this guy loose but not politically advantageous for them yet. 

 
The General said:
Don't Noonan said:
Considering the guy heading the investigation is a proven liar and leaker, no.
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Trump is a proven liar and leaks things all the time. This isn’t what you are concerned about :lol:

They already have enough to impeach him, just a matter of continuing to get the public enough behind it to get Senate to do their part. Many Republicans are dying to cut this guy loose but not politically advantageous for them yet. 
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:lmao:  https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/trump-has-told-13-435-while-in-office-wapo-71560773873

 
[scooter] said:
[scooter] said:
Trump's approval rating drops to lowest number since February

His approval rating has fallen 6 points in just 5 days.
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Following up on this: Trump's approval rating at Rasmussen has dropped another point, which ties his lowest approval rating since January.....of 2018.

It's also 2 points lower than Obama's approval rating at the same time period of his own presidency.
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Rasmussen did not post their latest approval poll at 10 a.m. EST today. They must have been re-checking the numbers to make sure there were no errors, because when they finally posted the latest poll at 10:25, it showed that Trump's Approval Index had dropped ANOTHER 2 POINTS (to -15), with his disapproval rating at 56%.

 
[scooter] said:
Rasmussen did not post their latest approval poll at 10 a.m. EST today. They must have been re-checking the numbers to make sure there were no errors, because when they finally posted the latest poll at 10:25, it showed that Trump's Approval Index had dropped ANOTHER 2 POINTS (to -15), with his disapproval rating at 56%.
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A very well deserved drop. 

 
[scooter] said:
Rasmussen did not post their latest approval poll at 10 a.m. EST today. They must have been re-checking the numbers to make sure there were no errors, because when they finally posted the latest poll at 10:25, it showed that Trump's Approval Index had dropped ANOTHER 2 POINTS (to -15), with his disapproval rating at 56%.
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Thought you guys all have said a bunch of times that Rasmussen polls can't be trusted?

Is that ONLY when they disagree with your opinions?  Once they turn anti Trump they are now a reference?  

Interesting.  

 
supermike80 said:
Thought you guys all have said a bunch of times that Rasmussen polls can't be trusted?

Is that ONLY when they disagree with your opinions?  Once they turn anti Trump they are now a reference?  

Interesting.  
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If it's been consistent, the fact it's dropping is still very telling. If it managed to go up during all of this, that would be inviting far more questions than a drop does.

 
Trump is making plans to get out of DC...

Yashar Ali @yashar · 7m

New: Trump Organization Exploring Sale of Marquee Washington Hotel

 
supermike80 said:
So when agrees with you = good

Disagrees with you = fake news
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I don't care what it says, honestly. I'm saying that if it's dropping, and people on the left say it's generally unreliable otherwise, something else is at play here. Maybe it's always been consistent, maybe not, but if it has been consistently showing relatively high approval numbers, and it's now dropping, that's a sign more people are disapproving of Trump.

 
supermike80 said:
[scooter] said:
Rasmussen did not post their latest approval poll at 10 a.m. EST today. They must have been re-checking the numbers to make sure there were no errors, because when they finally posted the latest poll at 10:25, it showed that Trump's Approval Index had dropped ANOTHER 2 POINTS (to -15), with his disapproval rating at 56%.
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Thought you guys all have said a bunch of times that Rasmussen polls can't be trusted?

Is that ONLY when they disagree with your opinions?  Once they turn anti Trump they are now a reference?  

Interesting.  
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Huh? The Rasmussen poll still can't be trusted, GB. :lol:

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supermike80 said:
Kal El said:
If it's been consistent, the fact it's dropping is still very telling. If it managed to go up during all of this, that would be inviting far more questions than a drop does.
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So when agrees with you = good

Disagrees with you = fake news
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It's still fake news, GB -- it's at least 4 points higher than the aggregate average. :lol:

 
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supermike80 said:
Thought you guys all have said a bunch of times that Rasmussen polls can't be trusted?

Is that ONLY when they disagree with your opinions?  Once they turn anti Trump they are now a reference?  

Interesting.  
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Rasmussen due to their exclusive use of land lines for polling, leans right consistently about 3-5% compared to other major polling outfits. So, they can rightfully be considered an outlier or, at the very least their numbers should be taken with a huge grain of salt. 

When the Fox News and the right's favorite pollster starts trending in the wrong direction for Trump, it doesn't make them any more or less trustworthy but it interesting to point that out, since every favorable Trump approval rating by them is trumpeted (so to speak) as proof positive of Trump's actual popularity by Trump supporters and defenders in this forum. 

 
Sinn Fein said:
Trump is making plans to get out of DC...

Yashar Ali @yashar · 7m

New: Trump Organization Exploring Sale of Marquee Washington Hotel
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We strolled by a Trump hotel in Vancouver this summer. I asked my wife, who in the heck opts to stay there? Hopefully all of his hotels are feeling some pain.

 
Jobber said:
We strolled by a Trump hotel in Vancouver this summer. I asked my wife, who in the heck opts to stay there? Hopefully all of his hotels are feeling some pain.
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Selling his DC hotel is the first sign of intelligence I have seen from him in years.

Once Trump leaves, his name will be a pariah, particularly in DC.  Even beyond that, I think his name brand is going to take a hit - his core supporters are not typical luxury hotel in big city types.

I saw earlier this week that he has taken his name off the business of two local skating rinks in NYC.

 
Jobber said:
We strolled by a Trump hotel in Vancouver this summer. I asked my wife, who in the heck opts to stay there? Hopefully all of his hotels are feeling some pain.
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Good thought. Maybe enough of a pinch to layoff some of the staff. Get a pound of flesh from a housekeeper or a cashier is ok just as long as Donald feels a pinch 👍

 
HellToupee said:
Good thought. Maybe enough of a pinch to layoff some of the staff. Get a pound of flesh from a housekeeper or a cashier is ok just as long as Donald feels a pinch 👍
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Capitalism in play here. And if you were to put even a little thought into it [you didn't], you would realize that other hotels benefit from this hotel's loss of business. Therefore requiring them to increase staff at their locations. A true Republican [you aren't] would know this.

 
Jobber said:
Capitalism in play here. And if you were to put even a little thought into it [you didn't], you would realize that other hotels benefit from this hotel's loss of business. Therefore requiring them to increase staff at their locations. A true Republican [you aren't] would know this.
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:penalty:

Exactly the type of post Joe is looking to have less of. You could make the same point without getting personal.

 
HellToupee said:
Good thought. Maybe enough of a pinch to layoff some of the staff. Get a pound of flesh from a housekeeper or a cashier is ok just as long as Donald feels a pinch 👍
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This would be Donald’s fault. Similar to an actor or famous person choosing to alienate the public or in this case potential clientele. I’m not knowingly giving anything with his name attached a dime. 

His workers just get wrapped up in his mess.

 
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