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To be fair, the initial question posed some scenarios that don't seem to fit what you are describing. For example, how do you trace for one who went to sporting events, was at an airport, etc. I think the reality of it is we're probably looking at moderate social distancing (including sports at all levels, concerts, events, maybe air travel) until this thing passes, right? Possibly restaurants, church, etc. give better numbers for tracing.
Seems kind of crazy to think about this, but might be worth looking into what would be involved in a home delivery with a midwife, just in case the hospitals near you completely go to !@#$ at that time.We have our baby due on May 15th, so I also hope things are open by then including hospital beds
Not a chance, just my opinion but things right now feel like things will keep being pushed off.
I don't see any people wanting work. Why would you want to chase around sick people when you can collect $800 to $1000 payroll tax free staying safe at home? You'd have to sub something like this out to a company because our gov't couldn't handle hiring that many people in the timeframe needed.
Yeah me and the Wife have discussed and we are mentally preparing that it could happen and will be monitoring our county closely this month. But she wants them drugsssss
First of all, the bolded is totally false. Second, it would be very easy to do and there would be plenty of people to volunteer. If they can bail out billionaires with a 2 trillion dollar tax bill, surely they can afford to pay some contact tracers a great wage.
I'm strongly in favor of test-and-trace, but I do worry that we missed our chance on that. Maybe this is a failure of imagination on my part, but it seems like our caseload is going to be too high to feasibly allow for contact tracing. At some point the logistics of that have to be overwhelming, right?
I think the alternative scenario being put forth is not shutting down life, but starting back up and accepting the consequences. Still a lot of people that seem to want to do that.
Maybe make it a condition of unemployment??? Maybe you're right and it is feasible and I'm just jaded about what the federal government could pull off successfully.
Right now it's definitely too late. I think the scenario is that we beat this thing and then it starts popping up again. In that scenario, that's where a comprehensive test-and-trace program should work to stop future outbreaks.
Same boat, we were about to put our house on the market and move to Tampa. Plan was to be in a new house May. We have put that on hold for a few months as not even sure how to make that happen logistically (sell house, find/buy new house, move stuff, get acclimated to new surroundings, etc) and quite frankly don’t want to go to a state that will likely have an overloaded health system given the demographics of Florida and potentially compound the issue...also being in Minnesota right now close to family and friends as well as our health care providers, etc seems to be the right move.
They’re doing a good job keeping it out of L&D areas of hospitals. Home deliveries add extra risk and if #### went downhill the ambulance is taking you in through the emergency room where you DONT want to be for a second.
The national guidelines dont close businesses. The states have done that. And some hotels are still open all across the country currently, iirc. The Wynn started taking reservations yesterday for the day after the 30 day closure which is April 17th. They could easily cancel them all again, but who knows.
It's literally so easy. I guarantee that if you gave me ten billion dollars I could build a team of the best contact tracers this country has ever seen. (as could most of you) Not tooting my own horn here, because I certainly don't have the necessary skillset to train people in how to adequately do this. But with enough money, I could certainly hire 10 experts, and 10,000 smart and eager workers ready to respond to any future outbreak.
Does HIPAA limit you to generalities though? Like if a patient tests positive, can the government post things like:
Doesn't seem like too much of a stretch to figure this out utilizing technology https://twitter.com/MikaelThalen/status/1243281598037913600
HIPAA can be easily brushed aside. Its already being significantly relaxed as part of multiple different legislative measures.
Technology is certainly possible. I read somewhere this morning that the UK is working on an app that alerts you when you're coming within a certain distance of someone that has the coronavirus. IF everyone downloaded the app, that would be an interesting way of solving the problem.
Two different types of systems. It's easy for China to round up 10000 people to trace and yank suspected infected people out of their home, stuff them in dog crates, and haul them off to camp.
It's tough. I think the bailout, the increased unemployment and the stock market rise over the last week has taken the sting out of the financial concerns. But when this starts back up, there are definitely going to be a lot of problems getting this thing going again.
What is your hospital set up like? The one I use has a completely separate women’s pavilion for birth. They are still allowing spouses to come in with laboring mother and one visitor afterwards, but that could be more restricted later.
Snorkelson said:
Technically the gov't will pay for two months worth of wages, utilities, and rent if they don't lay anyone off.
That opportunity was missed the second we had one positive test. By then the virus already had a huge head start.
I own 2 small fitness studios that will be basically without revenue for two full months and even if I talk my landlord into reduced rent I still need to pay insurance and I have a couple employees that I cover their health insurance for as well.
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You are absolutely correct, National Guidelines...for example the Gov of Florida has shut down South Florida but I still saw the small business owner that cleans pools was out and about my neighborhood today.
How do they know who has the virus.. beating a dead horse here, but you don't and can't know in real time who has the virus.
Different culture. Also, t
It would also require people to have smart phones. Many seniors don't like my dad. And he's not going to get one either.
We’ve been planning our move to St. Pete since last year. We bought a house in July and our snowbird tenant just left to go back home. We have the movers scheduled for the first week of June and we’re still hopeful it’s going to happen.
Do you really believe that BnB?
Florida is foolish. The whole state should be shut down and not just 4 counties.
