General Malaise
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I wonder how many of these traitors were on meth or speed of some kind? I bet a lot.
just a few tourists gettin a little rowdy GB. The snack bar was probably closed.While many Republicans continue to try to minimize the severity and breadth of the January 6 attack on the Capitol, the Justice Department released graphic new police bodycam video footage that proves once again just how violent Trump’s mob was.
According to CNN, the DOJ released new footage of the insurrection in response to media requests. Portions of the videos were used by prosecutors against those accused of participating in the Capitol attack.
One portion of the video used by prosecutors in the case against Thomas Webster, a former Marine and retired New York City police officer, shows Trump’s mob and Webster pushing, cursing, and threatening Capitol Police officers. Webster, while wielding a flagpole, can be seen taunting and then rushing one officer as he’s thrown to the ground. Webster has pleaded not guilty to all charges.
“We see what I would describe as a look of pure rage,” U.S. Attorney Benjamin Gianforti said at a hearing describing Webster’s actions in February, according to the Washington Post. “His teeth are gritted. This is a man about to unleash some kind of violence.”
I'm guessing the lack of Snickers is what caused some of these great citizens of our country to express a modicum of displeasure which in NO WAY was violent or at all their fault.just a few tourists gettin a little rowdy GB. The snack bar was probably closed.
It was unlike anything I’ve ever seen during my lifetime in a first world western liberal democracy. It was historical and an indictment of just how far America has fallen from its perch as THE beacon of light for the progressive civilized world.It was minimal.
A bunch of unarmed protesters entered the Capitol Building. How is that a threat to this country or Democracy? IMHO it shows how great this country is. People can express their distaste for government and not be unfairly prosecuted. I applaud the restraint so far by the feds in not over charging with any treason or sedition charges the media and Democrats suggest. Most all these people that the left has been so appalled by are mostly getting wrist slaps.It was unlike anything I’ve ever seen during my lifetime in a first world western liberal democracy. It was historical and an indictment of just how far America has fallen from its perch as THE beacon of light for the progressive civilized world.
But the cops should have been more prepared is your take away. I guess.
Ashli Babbit would still be alive if she hadn't fallen prey to the traitors, conspiracy theorists and Trump who called her into action against her own country.A bunch of unarmed protesters entered the Capitol Building. How is that a threat to this country or Democracy? IMHO it shows how great this country is. People can express their distaste for government and not be unfairly prosecuted. I applaud the restraint so far by the feds in not over charging with any treason or sedition charges the media and Democrats suggest. Most all these people that the left has been so appalled by are mostly getting wrist slaps.
what happens next time? That's my concern.A bunch of unarmed protesters entered the Capitol Building. How is that a threat to this country or Democracy? IMHO it shows how great this country is. People can express their distaste for government and not be unfairly prosecuted. I applaud the restraint so far by the feds in not over charging with any treason or sedition charges the media and Democrats suggest. Most all these people that the left has been so appalled by are mostly getting wrist slaps.
I'm trying to figure out how "conservatives" like you and @Rich Conway go from being "conservative" to hardcore liberal and defending every liberal idea and policy and mocking conservatives on a daily basis."The Buck Stops Somewhere Else"
Wow. We see it very differently I guess.A bunch of unarmed protesters entered the Capitol Building. How is that a threat to this country or Democracy? IMHO it shows how great this country is. People can express their distaste for government and not be unfairly prosecuted. I applaud the restraint so far by the feds in not over charging with any treason or sedition charges the media and Democrats suggest. Most all these people that the left has been so appalled by are mostly getting wrist slaps.
They build preconceived caricatures and attack them when you don't fit the "sides" mold. To what end, I haven't figured out, but for now I'm going with "lazy" or "fishing"then you don't know me from very far back at all.
Did you know I never voted for Obama, not once? Were you around when I was posting vehemently against Obamacare, TARP, etc, or the many times I railed against unions?
Another video of Scott Fairlamb on 1-6, he uses some foul language so NSFW.(Breitbart) - Newly released footage from January 6 shows a supporter of former President Donald Trump taunting, stalking and punching law enforcement outside the US Capitol -- the latest release of up-close video of rioters who have been charged with assaulting police.
In the new video, Scott Fairlamb, a gym owner from New Jersey, leans into the face of a police officer, following him, and taunting him with expletives. At one point, Fairlamb shouts, "you have no idea what the f**k you're doing." He then pushes and punches an officer.
Fairlamb was one of the first rioters inside the Senate side of the building, according to court records, and is charged with 12 criminal counts including assaulting police and carrying a dangerous weapon into the Capitol.
Prosecutors had sent the video of Fairlamb directly to a federal judge reviewing his case months ago, and CNN and 16 other media outlets went to court to seek its release.
In all, the Justice Department released four clips Friday used in Fairlamb's case: footage from a police body-worn camera, a video taken by someone in the crowd and later posted to YouTube, and two short clips that Fairlamb uploaded to Facebook and Instagram while he was on Capitol grounds on January 6.
Prosecutors say the bystander video shows Fairlamb, in a camouflage jacket, shoving a police officer, who then falls backwards onto a group of rioters. As the officer regains his footing and starts walking away, Fairlamb then punches him in the face, hitting his helmet.
The police bodycam footage shows snippets of the same incident, from the perspective of one of the Washington, DC, police officers who was behind the officer that Fairlamb was taunting.
In a Facebook video the Justice Department also released, Fairlamb shouts "What patriots do? We f**king disarm them and then we storm the f***kng Capitol! F**k you!" He also carries a baton into the Capitol.
The video played a central role in how Judge Royce Lamberth of the DC District Court determined Fairlamb may still be dangerous.
"If any crime establishes danger to the community and a disregard for the rule of law, assaulting a riot-gear-clad police officer does," Lamberth wrote in April, deciding to keep Fairlamb in jail pending trial. The judge had reviewed the videos in private, after prosecutors sent them to his chambers via email.
Fairlamb had a history of assault charges and had punched people in the face before -- just like he allegedly had with an officer.
"The defendant's history of punching people in the face suggests that he may punch people in the face again," Lamberth wrote previously.
And remember, all this seditious insanity is because they were told The Big Lie. All those poor gullible Americans are going to jail for nothing.dozer said:Another video of Scott Fairlamb on 1-6, he uses some foul language so NSFW.
He seems like he might have a propensity for violence.
Pretty typical for most of the participants in the Capitol Insurrection.
I don't think these guys were told about the BLM/Antifa Big Lie.And remember, all this seditious insanity is because they were told The Big Lie. All those poor gullible Americans are going to jail for nothing.
What is an alias account exactly? Honest question.General Malaise said:The uneven moderation of obvious alias accounts on this board is ridiculous.
Alias Account = posters who don't agree with the lefty agenda.What is an alias account exactly? Honest question.
It was ugly but it was also way overblown. I was more appalled by the nonstop rioting, burning and looting that went on last summer while the press broadcast in front of burning rubble calling it mostly peaceful protests.zoonation said:It was unlike anything I’ve ever seen during my lifetime in a first world western liberal democracy. It was historical and an indictment of just how far America has fallen from its perch as THE beacon of light for the progressive civilized world.
But the cops should have been more prepared is your take away. I guess.
You can tell it was overblown based on the reaction we got from the left between Jan 6th and BLM/Antifa insurrections. The difference between the fake outrage was night and day.It was ugly but it was also way overblown. I was more appalled by the nonstop rioting, burning and looting that went on last summer while the press broadcast in front of burning rubble calling it mostly peaceful protests.
End of threadYou can tell it was overblown based on the reaction we got from the left between Jan 6th and BLM/Antifa insurrections. The difference between the fake outrage was night and day.
Here is the other BIG difference: The BLM/Antifa insurrections are still continuing to this day. 1-2 years after the original ones. The entire Portland riot police resigned the other day. To this VERY day they are still continuing but all you hear in here is "JAN 6TH!! OMG!!".End of thread
Neither do you.You don’t get to choose what the word “insurrection” means. Good grief.
I took a hard look at my principles and decided Conservativism no longer represented me. I'll type more tomorrow when I'm more sober.BladeRunner said:I'm trying to figure out how "conservatives" like you and @Rich Conway go from being "conservative" to hardcore liberal and defending every liberal idea and policy and mocking conservatives on a daily basis.
If you were dissatisfied with Trump, that doesn't mean you abandon all of your conservatives principles and join the dark side, IMO. You guys are in here every day defending the left. Someone dissatisfied with their side doesn't do that.
I'm fascinated by this change in character that supposed conservatives do. What happened? Are you really that hardcore left now? And Trump is responsible for that?
2020 BLM Mostly Peaceful Protests:You can tell it was overblown based on the reaction we got from the left between Jan 6th and BLM/Antifa insurrections. The difference between the fake outrage was night and day.
I can't wait to hear about the 180 you did and why, suddenly, after all of your years leftism was your answer.I took a hard look at my principles and decided Conservativism no longer represented me. I'll type more tomorrow when I'm more sober.
He was never a Conservative. I read his old posts this afternoon. Opposing TARP doesn’t make one a Conservative. That’s actually more of a Liberal position (anti big business).BladeRunner said:I'm trying to figure out how "conservatives" like you and @Rich Conway go from being "conservative" to hardcore liberal and defending every liberal idea and policy and mocking conservatives on a daily basis.
If you were dissatisfied with Trump, that doesn't mean you abandon all of your conservatives principles and join the dark side, IMO. You guys are in here every day defending the left. Someone dissatisfied with their side doesn't do that.
I'm fascinated by this change in character that supposed conservatives do. What happened? Are you really that hardcore left now? And Trump is responsible for that?
I'm not a great orator, so hold your breath.I can't wait to hear about the 180 you did and why, suddenly, after all of your years leftism was your answer.
When you are far right, everything else looks left.I can't wait to hear about the 180 you did and why, suddenly, after all of your years leftism was your answer.
https://www.npr.org/2021/04/14/986457987/what-we-know-about-the-suspect-who-planted-bombs-before-the-capitol-riotDid they ever find the guy that left the pipe bombs? We have a political terrorist running loose putting bombs in political offices. I am surprised that's not a bigger story.
It was probably a false flag antifa which is why you never hear about it.
How dare you bring facts to this argument? Everyone know Jan 6th was way more violent!!! Well, except for the minor fact that the insurrectionist didn't kill anyone or have weapons.2020 BLM Mostly Peaceful Protests:
- 35 dead
- $2 Billion (yes, with a ‘B’, in Property Damage.
Except I'm not far right. Not even closeWhen you are far right, everything else looks left.
Too funny. After a year if celebrating peaceful protests which were fat more deadly and violent. Don't tell me about minimizing the severity. You guys are the undisputed champions of that.General Malaise said:While many Republicans continue to try to minimize the severity and breadth of the January 6 attack on the Capitol, the Justice Department released graphic new police bodycam video footage that proves once again just how violent Trump’s mob was.
According to CNN, the DOJ released new footage of the insurrection in response to media requests. Portions of the videos were used by prosecutors against those accused of participating in the Capitol attack.
One portion of the video used by prosecutors in the case against Thomas Webster, a former Marine and retired New York City police officer, shows Trump’s mob and Webster pushing, cursing, and threatening Capitol Police officers. Webster, while wielding a flagpole, can be seen taunting and then rushing one officer as he’s thrown to the ground. Webster has pleaded not guilty to all charges.
“We see what I would describe as a look of pure rage,” U.S. Attorney Benjamin Gianforti said at a hearing describing Webster’s actions in February, according to the Washington Post. “His teeth are gritted. This is a man about to unleash some kind of violence.”
The cop was there to protect property.If apparently getting ready to break into a building is justification for shooting an unarmed person, we could have gunned down a few million people last year.
Refresh my memory, what election were the those riots trying to overturn?Too funny. After a year if celebrating peaceful protests which were fat more deadly and violent. Don't tell me about minimizing the severity. You guys are the undisputed champions of that.
Violence is violence. Whether you can rationalize the cause is a different topic. BLM violence was far worse and the left was outrageous in portraying it as peaceful. It is obnoxious now to be upset over this which was a walk in the park by comparison.Refresh my memory, what election were the those riots trying to overturn?
Hmm, rioting over civil rights vs. storming the Capitol to prevent the peaceful transfer of power. Nope, not the same. Keep conflating the two though.
Very interesting, hadn't seen the videos/pictures before. If it is a kitchen timer though, how was it supposed to go off?
You focus on the violence but downplay the intent of the right-wing domestic terrorists trying to prevent the peaceful transfer of power - encouraged by the out-going president.Violence is violence. Whether you can rationalize the cause is a different topic. BLM violence was far worse and the left was outrageous in portraying it as peaceful. It is obnoxious now to be upset over this which was a walk in the park by comparison.
Obnoxious?Violence is violence. Whether you can rationalize the cause is a different topic. BLM violence was far worse and the left was outrageous in portraying it as peaceful. It is obnoxious now to be upset over this which was a walk in the park by comparison.
Also…I don’t recall anything more than a couple here celebrating the violence. (And that is even a maybe) Almost universally was called out by the left of this board.Refresh my memory, what election were the those riots trying to overturn?
Hmm, rioting over civil rights vs. storming the Capitol to prevent the peaceful transfer of power. Nope, not the same. Keep conflating the two though.
Obnoxious?
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Rosenbaum, the guy who initiated the first chase, was a pyschopath who spent nearly his whole adult life in prison for violent felonies and was released from a pyscho hospital earlier that day, was absolutely a threat to kill Rittenhouse. He was also filmed pushing a flaming dumpster towards a gas station where people were hanging out. A real nice dude at a peaceful protests. But the media does not tell you that.Jon_mx re: Rittenhouse: he was there to protect property and the people yelling at him were definitely going to kill him if he didn’t kill them first.
Jon_mx re Capitol police: they were there to protect property, but the people yelling that they were going to kill the VP were totally harmless and weren’t actually going to kill anyone.
Its almost as if it was an important event and there are still news stories coming out about people.CNN currently has 6 articles on January 6th at the top of its home page.
Just lawful and peaceful.General Malaise said:More solid, quality folks just patting police in the face to tell them how much they appreciate them: https://twitter.com/MarshallCohen/status/1405919495839961097
You threaten a guy with an AR-15, then you chase him, then throw something at him, then chase him again - all in a hostile, lawless riot… Don’t be surprised when he shoots you in the head. No wonder the guy was in the psych ward.Rosenbaum, the guy who initiated the first chase, was a pyschopath who spent nearly his whole adult life in prison for violent felonies and was released from a pyscho hospital earlier that day, was absolutely a threat to kill Rittenhouse. He was also filmed pushing a flaming dumpster towards a gas station where people were hanging out. A real nice dude at a peaceful protests. But the media does not tell you that.