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The uprights are putting in an MVP-caliber performance this weekend.

I'm sure his insurance covers it.

@SethCPayne: Lotta people on here claiming that's the dumbest rule in football have never tried to buy a beer in the 4th quarter.

1 minute ago, DallasDMac said:

Do you really need to spin the ball because you did what you get paid to do? And then follow it up with that.

It's like he got KC fired up yet he was en route to the end zone...if he had just caught it and went down instead of trying to be the hero, Cleveland would have had it 1st and goal and powerful combo at RB to play with. 

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Why don't more coaches coach their players NOT do to that?  If it is the last play of the game, sure, you lay out for the score, but that in situation, there is no reason whatsoever to do.  

I remember Eric Mangini saying once that Belichick coaches his players to not do that and that anyone who does will be benched.  

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1 minute ago, DallasDMac said:

I'm surprised that doesn't happen more with all the reaching with the ball.

Belichick prohibits Pats players from doing it, because stuff like that happens too often. 

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Just now, AAABatteries said:

For those saying they hate the rule - what would you prefer they do, offense keeps the ball at the spot of the fumble? I’d be cool with that.

Of course, that’s what they do with literally every fumble that goes out of bounds. 

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Just now, AAABatteries said:

For those saying they hate the rule - what would you prefer they do, offense keeps the ball at the spot of the fumble? I’d be cool with that.

That would be far worse... You get a "free" fumble?

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Just now, AAABatteries said:

For those saying they hate the rule - what would you prefer they do, offense keeps the ball at the spot of the fumble? I’d be cool with that.

Yes.  Giving the ball to the defense when they didn't recover it doesn't make much sense. 

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Just now, Capella said:

If the ball went out at the 1, Cleveland would have the ball at the 1. How does this rule exist?!????????

Seems like one of those plays that might change a rule next year

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1 minute ago, AAABatteries said:

For those saying they hate the rule - what would you prefer they do, offense keeps the ball at the spot of the fumble? I’d be cool with that.

Exactly this. Just like everywhere else on the field. 

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1 minute ago, Ministry of Pain said:

Disagree but it's frustrating...KC lead with helmet and I'm not sure what result that would have made but it wasn't called and it impacted the play

I’d love to be wrong but feels like this one is over.

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1 minute ago, Andy Dufresne said:

It's like fighting for an extra half yard when you're nowhere near a first down or TD. You increase the likelihood of injury or turnover - it's not worth it.

But you're basically telling a guy to fight against instinct. Goal line is there and the objective is to score. 

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So what do you do about that touchback rule if you’re against it?

I like that it punishes dumb decisions but players are still not getting it. If they didn’t make it a turnover, what would be fair punishment for that kind of mistake?

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1 minute ago, Andy Dufresne said:

It's like fighting for an extra half yard when you're nowhere near a first down or TD. You increase the likelihood of injury or turnover - it's not worth it.

Nobody does Hindsight like Andy ;)

If he scores instead of being hit H2H and fumble at the half yard line, we aren't having this discussion at all.

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