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49ers jump up to #3 pick in draft (3 Viewers)
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Hot Sauce Guy
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farfromforgotten
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The 49ers weren't planning to be picking #12 or higher again any time in the near future. In a draft class with this many talented QBs I think it makes sense to move up to secure one of them right now. I also think Shanny and Saleh have spoken about draft day plans. I understand the deal but I also understand it is a lot to give up for a guy who is not going to be considered the #1 QB in the draft. As a fan, I'm excited about the possibility of what could be.
rzrback77
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I just can’t believe there are any friendly information exchanges to “know for a certainty” who will be there. I do understand QB value, but that is so much for what is likely to be the third QB drafted.
Deamon
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Yes but if the Jets are locked into fields at 2, a friendly call to his old coach who got him to where he is wouldn't hurt. I'm sure the Jets would rather sf get Wilson then Miami have the 3rd pick.
Anarchy99
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RUSF18
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I think too many people are fixated on this trade being for the "3rd QB". Teams don't think that way. The grade they place on these guys is independent of other QBs in this class. If the worst guy they could possibly get at #3 is graded high enough to justify the deal in their minds, they don't care that two others are rated higher.
ghostguy123
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This would be correct. They clearly have three different players they would pay that price for.
Same with Miami. They clearly have three different non QBs they were happy to pay pick 12 and future 1st to get
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rzrback77
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Deamon
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Shawnky
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Anarchy99
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Well, Chris Simms is BFF’s with Shanahan, and he said Mac Jones will get serious consideration.
RUSF18
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Hot Sauce Guy
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so Peter King was just on local radio talking about the Panthers, and how (If they can’t work out anything for a quarterback upgrade ) then within a day or two of the draft they might want to get that 3rd pick for something crazy, like 3x 1sts and Beidgewater. that it’s 5 weeks before the draft, which makes this very unusual and very unpredictable. 
His gut tells him the Niners are taking a QB though.
ETA that said, Jets are likely staying at 2, & Falcons (division rival) are at 4, so if CAR trades up, Niners hold all the cards.
His gut tells him the Niners are taking a QB though.
ETA that said, Jets are likely staying at 2, & Falcons (division rival) are at 4, so if CAR trades up, Niners hold all the cards.
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Hot Sauce Guy
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facook
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Anarchy99
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I get that. And I agree. But Simms is tight with Shannahan. I would guess they want Lance and will let him sit behind Garoppolo for a year.
facook
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Son of a....
@mortreport--
Kyle Shanahan had success with Matt Ryan and he and Mike Shanahan had a love for Kirk Cousins. Agree with Simms here. I see
@MacJones_10 as the 49ers' pick and @treylance09 as the fallback. That is mocking Trevor Lawrence and Zach Wilson as the first two picks.
Hot Sauce Guy
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Crazy momentum building for this being Jones
I agree with you though this makes the trade absolutely ridiculous
Andy Dufresne
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ghostguy123
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So to move down from 3 to 6 the Dolphins got a 2023 1st. The way some people devalue future picks, what would a 2023 1st be viewed as in this draft. Late 2nd? (I don't view future picks that way but many seem to).
The initial dolphins trade seemed GREAT for them, but now they moved back to 6 for "not so much"?
So does that mean the Eagles made out big?
Weird how value looks depending on the type of deal, and to look at the totality of it all.
The initial dolphins trade seemed GREAT for them, but now they moved back to 6 for "not so much"?
So does that mean the Eagles made out big?
Weird how value looks depending on the type of deal, and to look at the totality of it all.
Hot Sauce Guy
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The more I hear about Mac Jones, the more competent the Raiders off-season looks. 
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
It's 5 weeks (less 1 day) until the draft. Peter King suspects more shenanigans will take place on draft day, or shortly before.
He sees the 49ers are being in a position to trade back down if the guy they want doesn't make it to 3. And apparently Carolina would 1. like one of the 3 young guys, and 2. might be willing to pay the same king's ransom as the 49ers just did to get that pick from them.
Again, that's just one dude's opinion but it seems like it isn't a done deal just yet that the Niners will be picking 3rd. At least, it's a possibility.
massraider
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Holy Smokes, what is going on with the Mac Jones media frenzy?
Some of these ESPN peeps are going to burst into tears if the Patriots draft him.
Seriously, it's almost creepy.
rockaction
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What specifically are you talking about? I haven't seen what you're seeing. Is it love? hate? What's the story, morning glory?
Anarchy99
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In one of the odder things I heard yesterday, apparently Simms and Shanahan got their ankles tattooed with the other guy’s initials 20 years ago when they were teammates at Texas. NTTAWWT. They are still pretty much besties and as you said Simms would know who they will take there.
Dolphins netted a 2023 1st, 2022 3rd, a move down from a 2021 4th to 5th, and a swap of 2022 1sts with a team that only won 6 games this past year.
All to move down 3 spots and still be able to draft one of the guys they likely would have taken at 3.
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King of the Jungle
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voiceofunreason
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I think me, and most others, find it hard to believe they think there are 3 qbs worth that much in 1 draft. And I don't think they pick a grade for qbs and blindly follow it. Seems a position where there's a lot of things that go into it and if you're going to overpay massively, you have to find your guy. I have to believe that Shanahan loves one of the qbs and knows the Jets aren't picking them. I actually think it's Lance but we'll see. But the idea that the scouts have super high grades on 3 qbs and they don't care which one they draft seems unlikely to me.
massraider
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In a year with so many good QB, the pre-draft chatter on any broadcast TV in unwatchable. But I have the annoying habit of putting on Get Up as my background noise in the AM.
He's this year's "We've decided he's the most cerebral and competitive leader". This is where they take all of the traits that cannot be accurately measured and bestow them to one guy, and then prattle on for weeks about him until the draft.
In a shocking turn of events, a slow white dude has won this award for the unprecedented I don't know how many years.
ghostguy123
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Did anyone say they dont care which one they get?
IMO, and this is very obvious, there are three different QBs in this draft that they would pay that price to move up to get.
OBVIOUSLY they have a preference and "care" who goes #2.
It's basically the same in fantasy. If you trade up for the #3 pick this year before the draft starts you are doing so with the idea that you would still be happy with the deal if your top 2 guys are off the board and you get your #3 rated player.
It doesnt mean you dont CARE who you get
MAC_32
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Hot Sauce Guy
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after sleeping on this, the more I think about it, the more certain I am that Justin Fields is Shanahan’s guy.
there’s no way in hell they made this move for Mac freakin Jones.
there’s no way in hell they made this move for Mac freakin Jones.
Boston
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No clue who San Fran is targeting right now and I know am far higher on Mac Jones than most but a good comp to him is Matt Ryan and Shanny did very well with him in Atlanta.
https://247sports.com/Article/Mac-Jones-Alabama-Crimson-Tide-2021-NFL-Draft-pro-comparison-to-Matt-Ryan-and-Chad-Pennington--163009961/
https://thefalconswire.usatoday.com/2021/02/25/falcons-mac-jones-nfl-draft-scouting-report-2021/
https://heavy.com/sports/atlanta-falcons/alabama-qb-cross-between-ryan-garoppolo/
https://fansided.com/2021/03/26/alabama-mac-jones-49ers-draft-rumors/
https://247sports.com/Article/Mac-Jones-Alabama-Crimson-Tide-2021-NFL-Draft-pro-comparison-to-Matt-Ryan-and-Chad-Pennington--163009961/
https://thefalconswire.usatoday.com/2021/02/25/falcons-mac-jones-nfl-draft-scouting-report-2021/
https://heavy.com/sports/atlanta-falcons/alabama-qb-cross-between-ryan-garoppolo/
https://fansided.com/2021/03/26/alabama-mac-jones-49ers-draft-rumors/
chinawildman
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I'm not saying Mac Jones isn't good, but isn't there like a Mac Jones type dude every year? What exactly is "special" about Jones to warrant dumping that much draft capital? I get why people are speculating they'll take Jones since these are the same guys that passed on both Watson and Mahomes... but typically when a team invests this much in a pick, it's because they're targeting a guy w/ a sky high ceiling.
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Hot Sauce Guy
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agreed - that’s why I think it’s fields. Shanny knows he needs a next-Gen type QB with upside. I think Mac has a good agent flooding the zone right now.
I don’t buy the Matt Ryan comps, nor do I think that necessarily makes him any better a fit for what Shanny wants to do. Shanny gets the most out of the players he’s got. I don’t think he’ll go out of his way (or draft 7-10 picks too high) a boring QB with limited upside who’s good under pressure & makes the short & intermediate throws. Sure, that describes Matty Ice - but that also basically describes Alex Smith.
Fields has to be the guy at 3, or they wouldn’t have paid that much to move up. If they did, fire Shanny & Lynch 8 seconds after they pick Mac.
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