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Do you approve of this administration's job performance at the 7 month mark? (1 Viewer)

Do you approve of the job Kamala Harris is doing as VP?

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As a yes or no...I would say no due to Afghanistan and the border.  IMO...I think better to scale it 1-10 kind of thing.  Id put it more towards the middle range than just flat out bad.

 
sho nuff said:
As a yes or no...I would say no due to Afghanistan and the border.  IMO...I think better to scale it 1-10 kind of thing.  Id put it more towards the middle range than just flat out bad.
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What was wrong with Afghanistan?   Once we pulled out, it was going this way, whether in a day, week, month, year, whatever.   We never should have been there — and thankfully, now we are leaving.

 
Alex P Keaton said:
What was wrong with Afghanistan?   Once we pulled out, it was going this way, whether in a day, week, month, year, whatever.   We never should have been there — and thankfully, now we are leaving.
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I can agree the end result long run will be quite similar.  I think the manner of the pullout was haphazard...too much equipment and people left to scramble.

I too am glad we are leaving.  Feel sorry for the people there...but at a certain point, how long can we stay.  How many more american lives can we sacrifice and dollars can we spend all over trying to make other places do what we want?  But the overall manner in which is happened has sucked.

 
I agree with a scale of 1 to 10 or letter grades. I am also in the middle but if its a strict yes or no I voted no as of right now. I voted for Biden. 

 
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AAABatteries said:
If my only two options are yes/no then I’m voting yes.  Mainly because I knew (or felt I knew) what I was signing up for.  I didn’t have the highest expectations but so far they’ve met enough to get a Yes.
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Yeah...I was on the border of yes or no...took no because of recency bias in a way.  But at the moment...no I don't approve.  GIve it a few months to see where this goes...and that may change.

 
HellToupee said:
Maybe we shouldn’t let American citizens  fend for themselves to elude the  taliban to get to the airport for starters
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This has been discussed in the Afghanistan thread since this started. The exit planning or lack thereof is a total failure. I voted for Biden and I believe the vast majority (but not all) of other Biden voters feel this way. 

 
I agree with everyone else. A strict yes/no is a difficult call to make. On some things I approve, on others I don't. Overall - if I have to give an answer, I guess I'll go yes. 

 
It was the easy grading in the other threads that made this a pass/fail assessment. 

And Kamala is in charge of the border issues if you want to know what she is up to. 

 
What's interesting about Harris is that we're seeing the revival of a historical trend that seemed to have been discontinued during the two previous administrations: an underling who serves as designated whipping boy/girl. Sometimes, that person has been portrayed as the power behind the throne (Hillary, Cheney, Rove) and other times as an overmatched incompetent (Quayle). But under Obama and Trump, this type of figure never really emerged. There was a brief moment in 2017 when it looked like it might be Steve Bannon, but once he started getting pub it was inevitable Trump would resent him and push him out. (I'm 100% convinced that all the "President Bannon" headlines were deliberately pushed by his opponents who wanted to drive a wedge between him and Trump.) The other thing that's interesting with Harris is that, depending on the day, she may be portrayed as either of the two archetypes I mentioned above. Sometimes she's the scheming socialist puppet master for the senile Biden, other times she's a hapless incompetent.

I'm not really interested in litigating any of these portrayals. I just find it fascinating that it has suddenly re-emerged. My theory is that, while Obama and Trump were both highly polarizing figures, Biden was almost designed in a lab not to be polarizing. So it was inevitable that someone else would draw fire.

 
Max Power said:
It was the easy grading in the other threads that made this a pass/fail assessment. 

And Kamala is in charge of the border issues if you want to know what she is up to. 
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Whats interesting is I’m not sure I’ve ever considered “grading” a POTUS and VPOTUS independently.  Not saying it’s a bad idea but usually they are so intertwined, starting with the fact that the POTUS selects the VPOTUS, that I’ve never really done it.  To me, if you give Harris a failing grade then you almost have to give Biden a failing grade by default.  

 
What is there to approve or disapprove about Harris independent of Biden?   When has anyone ever actually cared what a VP does?  She's there to take heat on some issues, and now she's being shipped off to Europe for a while to take some focus off of her and give her some foreign policy experience.   

Should be a "don't care either way" choice.

 
Didn’t vote in either poll as neither apply.  I’m largely ambivalent.  The day to day of the VP position is about as relevant as the first lady IMO so any VP would get the same non answer from me   

Didn’t vote for Biden and it’s gone about how I expected absent this #### show in Afghanistan. Still happy Trumps not POTUS but that bar couldn’t be any lower.  

 
dkp993 said:
Didn’t vote in either poll as neither apply.  I’m largely ambivalent.  The day to day of the VP position is about as relevant as the first lady IMO so any VP would get the same non answer from me   

Didn’t vote for Biden and it’s gone about how I expected absent this #### show in Afghanistan. Still happy Trumps not POTUS but that bar couldn’t be any lower.  
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And yet Biden managed to get it even lower.  :doh:

Unctrolled Souther border, ####show in Afghanistan, gas prices skyrocketing, still have Covid issues - and he's on vacation.

 
supermike80 said:
No to both however the Harris one is hard.  She literally hasn't done anything so hard to judge.
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No to both as well. On Harris I believe she was put in charge of the border which is the only responsibility I heard of. As that’s still a disaster I don’t see how anyone could be happy with her. 

 
BladeRunner said:
And yet Biden managed to get it even lower.  :doh:

Unctrolled Souther border, ####show in Afghanistan, gas prices skyrocketing, still have Covid issues - and he's on vacation.
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Agree to disagree, but I have absolutely zero desire to be put into a position of defending this Administration so I’ll leave this discussion here.    

I could not be more disgusted, disappointed, embarrassed and ashamed of the state of American politics, top to bottom party to party.  At some point we collectively need to wake up and chose better representation.  

 
COVID - positive, but CDC and FDA could use some help

Economy - going right direction, bipartisan support on infrastructure

Immigration - disappointing, need an actual plan to be debated in Congress to address border, dreamers, and refugees

Climate - slightly positive, hard to not improve over past admin

Foreign policy - disappointing on Afghan plan, haven’t seen much change in China

VP Harris - neutral - VPs don’t really do much. 

 
Rich Conway said:
I'm not sure I can think of a single thing Harris has/hasn't done beyond speeches.  To be honest, this applies to virtually every VP of my adult life.
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Less than a year ago, it was becoming more evident that Harris would lose suburban women voters to Nikki Haley in 2024. That however didn't guarantee those losses all down the ticket for the Democratic Party. Now a fair argument can be made that Harris and her toxic media optics could cost the entire Party down the ticket as well.

Haley is an establishment Republican, that means with a Super Majority, the cancel culture flips the other way. Haley is pro Israel so imagine how things are going to shape up for folks like Ilhan Omar?

The large young black male voter turnout for Trump in 2020 might still sustain for Haley. How can you have a black woman in Harris losing a cross section of the black vote? How is that even possible? I don't think even Nate Silver and 538 could find a way to frame the numbers on that one.  How does a VP inflict this much damage to her own Party? This is like deciding to pee against a barn wall and then missing.

Right now, if American civilians start dying in Afghanistan, the currency of choice politically will be those with a favorable military background. That means Crenshaw and De Santis get a boost. But it also means Buttigieg gets a boost.

This is Obama's "Third Term", he needs to punt on Harris and either push Buttigieg or Klobuchar forward.

If I was going to make a NBA comparison to Kamala Harris, I'd say she's Anthony Bennett.

 
I assume the people freaking out over the $20 increase in their monthly gas bill are pretty thankful of Biden for the tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars their stock portfolios and 401ks have risen under this administration, since apparently the president controls all of these things.

 
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I voted no for Biden and no for Harris although to be fair, I'm not really sure Harris has done anything at this point.

Reasons:

COVID: Biden said he had a plan for getting COVID under control.  Please tell me his plan was more than just use the vaccination that the Trump administration pushed through.  That plan isn't working.  Now we have vaccine passports, new mask mandates and potentially new lock-downs.  

ECONOMY:  IMO, it was a huge mistake to continue with the additional unemployment benefits and also to extend the eviction moratoriums. 

AFGANISTAN: I've seen enough interviews with military personnel to know that the withdrawal of troops was not executed properly.     

BORDER: Total crap-show.  Almost 1M border encounters since March.  Get it under control.  Finish the wall.  Tell people you're sending them back to Mexico.  But the head in the sand crap that this administration is doing isn't good enough.  There is absolutely nothing inhumane about finishing the wall and having foreigners go through the immigration process that is set up.       

BUDGET: At some point, politicians are going to have to have some fiscal responsibility.  Hopefully, a new President in 2024 will try and get the budget under control.  Biden doesn't seem willing to do that.

I'm sure there is something that Biden has done since he's taken office that is positive.  I just can't think of it right now.  

 
AAABatteries said:
If my only two options are yes/no then I’m voting yes.  Mainly because I knew (or felt I knew) what I was signing up for.  I didn’t have the highest expectations but so far they’ve met enough to get a Yes.
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Yeah - I am satisfied with the direction of the country under Biden.

But, I have no idea what Harris is doing or not doing, so it felt a little unfair to rate her.

 
FreeBaGeL said:
I assume the people freaking out over the $20 increase in their monthly gas bill are pretty thankful of Biden for the tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars their stock portfolios and 401ks have risen under this administration, since apparently the president controls all of these things.
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Not worried about gas prices - it's more about the complete abrogation of private property in this country, the complete fiscal insanity of proposing spending 6T in "infrastructure" spending  that isn't infrastructure, the drive toward health mandates (I guess "my body, my choice" isn't a general statement for all), and certainly this foreign debacle.

 
sho nuff said:
And were silent about them in 2018 and so on.
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Probably.  Just one of my pet peeves when people complain about gas prices with how much access we have to it and how much we choose to drive.  It's pretty cheap.  IMO just an odd thing to complain about considering what other stuff costs.  

I want to know why my Mt. Dew costs $12/gallon!! 

 
Sand said:
Not worried about gas prices - it's more about the complete abrogation of private property in this country, the complete fiscal insanity of proposing spending 6T in "infrastructure" spending  that isn't infrastructure, the drive toward health mandates (I guess "my body, my choice" isn't a general statement for all), and certainly this foreign debacle.
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I keep seeing stuff like this, but nobody seems to have an actual breakdown.   

As far as the second one, we already have mandates for similar, but covid became political so people complain about one but not others.   It's weird.  

 
I gave him a hesitant Yes, Harris a no, mostly because VPs basically are just window dressing anyway.  

If it was a 1-10, I'd probably give it a 5.5-6.  Close to a no, but mostly it's because I liked the ideas but the execution has been #### for a few things:

1.  Border - all for reversing some of the previous policies, but he rushed into that way too fast and instead of planning it was basically just reverse part of it and go.  

2.  Afghanistan - looooooong overdue getting out of there and it had to be done.  Again, could have been better on the evac, but I think overall it was a net +, but barely as of now.  

3.   ++ marks for the long overdue investment in infrastructure, and I like some of the ideas in the next wave too.  Will it all pass though? 

4.  Covid - vaccine rollout was good.   I will be honest, and I am still weighing how much more he could have done addressing the delta surge when so many are hell bent on not vaccinating.   I guess if he would have pushed more for ideas like restricted travel, etc. without proof or going back to limiting large gatherings as a way to attempt to get even more in to get a shot.    As we saw last year, states didn't always listen, so not sure here.  

 
Joe has done average.

He got infastructure done.  If you want a vaccine you can get one.  Getting out of Afghanistan was good.  As of right now...he gets an F for the actual evac.  He might be able to eek out a D- if everything turns out ok for Americans.  3 out of 4 gets you in the Hall of Fame in baseball.

 
Sinn Fein said:
Yeah - I am satisfied with the direction of the country under Biden.

But, I have no idea what Harris is doing or not doing, so it felt a little unfair to rate her.
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Agreed on Harris.

Most VPs do next to nothing.  Harris was supposed to be a new kind of VP....a fighting VP.  I really don't know where she has been for the first 8 months.  If she has any future political aspirations; she needs to step up.  

 
Thunderlips said:
Joe has done average.

He got infastructure done.  If you want a vaccine you can get one.  Getting out of Afghanistan was good.  As of right now...he gets an F for the actual evac.  He might be able to eek out a D- if everything turns out ok for Americans.  3 out of 4 gets you in the Hall of Fame in baseball.
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Infrastructure is not done.  I wish you guys would stop saying that.  There's massive infighting within his democratic party that could easily kill this thing.  He can't even get his own party on line.  How is this a win?  Call it one when its signed

 
supermike80 said:
Infrastructure is not done.  I wish you guys would stop saying that.  There's massive infighting within his democratic party that could easily kill this thing.  He can't even get his own party on line.  How is this a win?  Call it one when its signed
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Meh. Tomato Tomahto.

After this week, if Democratic infighting kills infrastructure....they're more clueless than many feel they are.  

 
Binary approve/disapprove isn't my thing, so I'm not answering. The execution of the executive order on the border and Afghanistan withdrawal were terrible. Don't really have any other meaningful criticisms though. 

 
ignatiusjreilly said:
What's interesting about Harris is that we're seeing the revival of a historical trend that seemed to have been discontinued during the two previous administrations: an underling who serves as designated whipping boy/girl. Sometimes, that person has been portrayed as the power behind the throne (Hillary, Cheney, Rove) and other times as an overmatched incompetent (Quayle). But under Obama and Trump, this type of figure never really emerged. .... The other thing that's interesting with Harris is that, depending on the day, she may be portrayed as either of the two archetypes I mentioned above. Sometimes she's the scheming socialist puppet master for the senile Biden, other times she's a hapless incompetent.

I'm not really interested in litigating any of these portrayals. I just find it fascinating that it has suddenly re-emerged. My theory is that, while Obama and Trump were both highly polarizing figures, Biden was almost designed in a lab not to be polarizing. So it was inevitable that someone else would draw fire.
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VIDEO: Kamala Harris Absurdly Says It’s “Almost Impossible” For Rural Americans To Photocopy Their ID Jul 10, 2021

President Joe Biden's Vice President Kamala Harris absurdly said that it's "almost impossible" for rural Americans to photocopy their ID, during an interview with BET News's Soledad O'Brian on 7/9/2021.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGhDkZJkbMI

*****

If your best defense of Kamala Harris is that she's a "victim" then the general public don't see victims as leaders. Certainly not the potential leader of the free world. Certainly not someone who can order military strikes, from the most powerful military in all of recorded human history, against anyone in the entire world at a moment's notice. Certainly not someone who has influence over trillions of dollars and sweeping public policy that could change American society for future generations. Certainly not someone who should be controlling America's vast nuclear arsenal and can essentially order the death of every last single living human being on the entire planet.

How about this narrative instead - She's incompetent. She was selected for reasons of identity politics so she hit certain qualifications that she has no control over ( being a woman and being a minority) that don't line up with actual merit. Every time she has a camera in her face, she says something stupid. Lots of voters won't vote for her, on both sides of the aisle, because they believe she's a complete and total idiot based on her engagement to the American people through all types of mediums. You can't skate around avoiding the border crisis by shouting out that you've never been to Europe either.

What are you going to do? Slam down your fist on the Report Button because I said many voters will look at her entire record as a politician and decide not to vote for her because the thought of her leading them terrifies them at night and they believe she's a complete and total idiot?  What are you going to do? Call me a racist and a bigot? That actually wouldn't surprise me any. Since it's the standard identity politics defense.

Have we gotten to the point where in a supposed free society that we can't call someone an idiot anymore because they believe white Christian rural conservative Americans can't find a way to use a copy machine?  Does she think JD Vance was the first to be exposed to the Monolith and figured out how to use an animal bone as a weapon and a tool?  Do we wait for Vance to start shouting "Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer do...."

Here's how REAL MERITOCRACY WORKS IN THE ACTUAL WORLD - Do your job the way it's supposed to be done, then you'll start being called things you want to hear.

 
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