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Sproles "wowing" in Camp (2 Viewers)
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ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
He'll be a great playmaker in the league, but as far as FF in concerned I doubt he'll ever be a reliable player.
Weiner Dog
Footballguy
DS2 
sproles will help the chargers win a few games a year and be one of the most electrifying open field runners in the league, but youre barking up the wrong tree if you think he will do anything fantasy wise unless your league counts return yards. jesse chatman and michael turner are quality backups and i dont see sproles getting an appreciable amount of work at RB unless LT and both backups get hurt, and im not even sure that the chargers wouldnt sign a bigger FA back at that point.
SammyJankis
Footballguy
Guy that used to have a cube next to me at work was a KSU alumn. He told me last football season that Sproles is amazingly strong for his size. I guess he can squat an insane amount of weight.I'm a big Sproles fan and was hoping that the Cards took him late.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
It's not as though the Chargers were without enticing backup options to Tomlinson already...Michael "the Burner" Turner is more than equipped to be a home-run, change of pace threat (he averaged 5.2 YPC last year in a meager 20 carries) and Jess Chatman acquitted himself quite well in LT's absence.
Sproles is a return man who will MAYBE have a few highlight reel plays from scrimmage in very limited action.
Sproles is a return man who will MAYBE have a few highlight reel plays from scrimmage in very limited action.
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MU Seminole
Footballguy
Exactly. It's extremely tough to see Sproles getting enough time to be a FF contributor.Doesn't Chatman's contract end after this season? Turner was a very nice back coming out of SIU. After this season, I'd expect Turner to be LT's primary backup, with Sproles mainly seeing time on special teams and perhaps the extremely occasional third down. If LT went down, I'd expect Turner to be the guy with Sproles perhaps spelling him a little. That's a pretty limited upside.
Schadenfreude
Footballguy
Woody Dantzler 2.0
Mark Wimer
Moderator
Blown knees do that to a player's season (that and fumbling woes in Griffin's case).Great!
We need a new debate about the capabilities of such a small waterbug playing in the NFL. The last debate we had - about Quentin Griffin & his becoming the next Barry Sanders - ended way too soon.
Mark Wimer
Moderator
I agree that this is the most likely outcome for Sproles in 2005. He's a dynasty "sleeper" type pick, not a redraft pick, IMO. Depends on how deep a rookie bench an owner has, and how set they are at RB already.
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sproles is a solid dynasty pick, who does actually have a shot long LONG term, because he was actually pretty durable for a guy his size and was also a decent inside runner for a guy his size. still, in the 4th round of dynasty rookie drafts, im probably looking at one of 2nd tier QBs or 3rd tier WRs before sproles because he is still a long shot.
Holy Schneikes
Footballguy
He sucked before the "blown" knee. Actually, he sucked before he even got the starting job, but not all of us realized it.Blown knees do that to a player's season (that and fumbling woes in Griffin's case).Great!
We need a new debate about the capabilities of such a small waterbug playing in the NFL. The last debate we had - about Quentin Griffin & his becoming the next Barry Sanders - ended way too soon.
Mark Wimer
Moderator
Yeah, dumb guys like Mike Shanahan, Gary Kubiak and Bobby Turner were optimistic about his chances behind Denver's OL...He sucked before the "blown" knee. Actually, he sucked before he even got the starting job, but not all of us realized it.Blown knees do that to a player's season (that and fumbling woes in Griffin's case).Great!
We need a new debate about the capabilities of such a small waterbug playing in the NFL. The last debate we had - about Quentin Griffin & his becoming the next Barry Sanders - ended way too soon.
Bull Dozier
Footballguy
A group of guys that have never made a personnell assesment mistake before.Yeah, dumb guys like Mike Shanahan, Gary Kubiak and Bobby Turner were optimistic about his chances behind Denver's OL...He sucked before the "blown" knee. Actually, he sucked before he even got the starting job, but not all of us realized it.Blown knees do that to a player's season (that and fumbling woes in Griffin's case).Great!
We need a new debate about the capabilities of such a small waterbug playing in the NFL. The last debate we had - about Quentin Griffin & his becoming the next Barry Sanders - ended way too soon.
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
A group of guys that have never made a personnell assesment mistake before.Apparently not at RB.Yeah, dumb guys like Mike Shanahan, Gary Kubiak and Bobby Turner were optimistic about his chances behind Denver's OL...He sucked before the "blown" knee. Actually, he sucked before he even got the starting job, but not all of us realized it.Blown knees do that to a player's season (that and fumbling woes in Griffin's case).Great!
We need a new debate about the capabilities of such a small waterbug playing in the NFL. The last debate we had - about Quentin Griffin & his becoming the next Barry Sanders - ended way too soon.
Holy Schneikes
Footballguy
Yeah. They screwed the pooch on that one then didn't they?Actually, just because they SAID they were optimistic, doesn't mean they were. Coaches say a lot of interesting things. Griffin was a fill-in until they could get a better man for the job up to speed - but they weren't exactly going to announce that. If they were so darn "optimistic" they wouldn't have drafted Bell so early.Yeah, dumb guys like Mike Shanahan, Gary Kubiak and Bobby Turner were optimistic about his chances behind Denver's OL...He sucked before the "blown" knee. Actually, he sucked before he even got the starting job, but not all of us realized it.Blown knees do that to a player's season (that and fumbling woes in Griffin's case).Great!
We need a new debate about the capabilities of such a small waterbug playing in the NFL. The last debate we had - about Quentin Griffin & his becoming the next Barry Sanders - ended way too soon.
I tried to put the breaks on the Griffin hype long before he started to look like the 5'7" 4th round draft pick he was.
Bloom has it right. Sproles will be the kick returner and punt returner, and he will be in certain passing-down packages. But don't expect more than about three touches per game from scrimmage. (The problem is that LT is a darn good third-down back in his own right.)
Chris Smith
The Head Goon!
In redraft leagues, obviously Sproles has little to no value this year. However if you are in a Dynasty league and can afford to keep him around for a couple of seasons, I see this kid getting an opportunity to get signficant touches down the road and he is a spectacular talent. IT is almost impossible to see him from the snap of the ball until he explodes through the hole and he could certainly slot into a Brian Westbrook type of role down the road for a team. Perhaps it won't be with the Chargers but I believe he will get a shot to do some good things down the road. I love the comparision to Joe Morris, not due to size but due to the length of time it took Joe Morris to emerge as a legitimate # 1 running back. If you can, sit Sproles at the end of your Dynasty bench and practice patience. You may be rewarded for it later on.
Family Matters
Footballguy
Can't. He runs too upright.
joffer
Footballguy
Great!
We need a new debate about the capabilities of such a small waterbug playing in the NFL. The last debate we had - about Quentin Griffin & his becoming the next Barry Sanders - ended way too soon.
nothing like another "he'll hide from the defense line argument" 
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joffer
Footballguy
Blown knees do that to a player's season (that and fumbling woes in Griffin's case).Great!
We need a new debate about the capabilities of such a small waterbug playing in the NFL. The last debate we had - about Quentin Griffin & his becoming the next Barry Sanders - ended way too soon.
Wimer still defending last year's Q-dog pickNot to mention that nobody was ever saying he was the next Barry Sanders in those debates. I love how people spin. Some people said he was "like" Barry Sanders, or reminiscent of him. Far cry from anyone saying he weas the "next" Barry Sanders.Blown knees do that to a player's season (that and fumbling woes in Griffin's case).Great!
We need a new debate about the capabilities of such a small waterbug playing in the NFL. The last debate we had - about Quentin Griffin & his becoming the next Barry Sanders - ended way too soon.
I can't believe I'm actually getting sucked into this argument again.Griffin's performance put him squarely on the bench & most likely ended any chance he had to become DEN's featured RB at any time in the future.Yeah, dumb guys like Mike Shanahan, Gary Kubiak and Bobby Turner were optimistic about his chances behind Denver's OL...He sucked before the "blown" knee. Actually, he sucked before he even got the starting job, but not all of us realized it.Blown knees do that to a player's season (that and fumbling woes in Griffin's case).Great!
We need a new debate about the capabilities of such a small waterbug playing in the NFL. The last debate we had - about Quentin Griffin & his becoming the next Barry Sanders - ended way too soon.
3 straight starts - cumulative stats: 58 carries, 139 yds rushing, 0 TDs, 2 fumbles, including one fumble that lead directly to a loss. And this is in the same offense that awakened Rueben Droughn's clinically dead RB career.
Please, Mark, give up this battle. It's not worth fighting and it can't be rationally defended. Shanahan is not going to give Griffin another shot at the job unless he loses about 4 RBs to injury/suspension.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
.....and then there is sproles.I can't believe I'm actually getting sucked into this argument again.Griffin's performance put him squarely on the bench & most likely ended any chance he had to become DEN's featured RB at any time in the future.Yeah, dumb guys like Mike Shanahan, Gary Kubiak and Bobby Turner were optimistic about his chances behind Denver's OL...He sucked before the "blown" knee. Actually, he sucked before he even got the starting job, but not all of us realized it.Blown knees do that to a player's season (that and fumbling woes in Griffin's case).Great!
We need a new debate about the capabilities of such a small waterbug playing in the NFL. The last debate we had - about Quentin Griffin & his becoming the next Barry Sanders - ended way too soon.
3 straight starts - cumulative stats: 58 carries, 139 yds rushing, 0 TDs, 2 fumbles, including one fumble that lead directly to a loss. And this is in the same offense that awakened Rueben Droughn's clinically dead RB career.
Please, Mark, give up this battle. It's not worth fighting and it can't be rationally defended. Shanahan is not going to give Griffin another shot at the job unless he loses about 4 RBs to injury/suspension.
I know, I know.I do like Sproles - a lot, in fact. But I just can't get the size/weight issue to outweigh the positives. The mass ratio thing is just too big of a handicap to overcome in a NFL that has gotten progressively bigger yet has actually gotten faster despite the increase in size. That doesn't demean Sproles' talent in any way, shape, or form. Tiki Barber is the extremely rare exception, not the rule - and Tiki looks big next to Sproles.
radballs.
Footballguy
See, from that pick I literally think he could run between the center's legs. He looks like a little person (is that what they like to be called?).
redman
Footballguy
No, because "little person tossing" is too much of a mouthful.On that note, are you allowed to hand the ball off to a RB who you then fling into the end zone?See, from that pick I literally think he could run between the center's legs. He looks like a little person (is that what they like to be called?).
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LHUCKS
Footballguy
No, I believe the penalty is called "Aiding and abetting the runner."No, because "little person tossing" is too much of a mouthful.On that note, are you allowed to hand the ball off to a RB who you then fling into the end zone?See, from that pick I literally think he could run between the center's legs. He looks like a little person (is that what they like to be called?).
