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TLEF316 said:
His whole channel used to be DIY projects. Then, a couple of years ago, he decided to turn his garage into the aquarium gallery.  But once he realized how much it all cost (somewhere near 6 figures I believe) he made a video crying on his channel and basically begging his followers to fund it....and they did....in like 2 days.

Other than the big 2,000 gallon tank and the 375 that he built a few years ago, everything in the gallery is donated high end equipment from sponsors. He's pretty knowledgeable about fish but all his tanks are pretty hideous (IMO) because he has absolutely no aquascaping ability. And he gets bored of his fish really quickly and is constantly bringing stuff back to his local store.

I think the reason some people HATE him is that he apparently stole some content from someone else a while back (maybe more than once) and then proceeded to block everyone who called him out on it.

He's just a really weird dude. He comes across as this happy-go-lucky Canadian but a few months back he posted this long rambling video detailing how he'd spend much of his childhood/early adult hood in jail because he was constantly getting in street fights because of what was apparently a pretty bad childhood. It was really odd.
I've enjoyed his videos and I'm sure he'll be an interesting presenter at this conference.  He's almost totally irrelevant to a low-level home hobbyist with a 20 gal tank like me, but still worth watching with the huge tanks and exotic fish and marine life he keeps.  Its pretty impressive.  Does seek a little off-kilter at times though, so I was not surprised to read that he's got some skeletons in his closet and has rubbed some folks the wrong way.

 
Ok, so we added a few fish this weekend.  I decided to keep the numbers low to make sure there were no issues and imagine adding a few more in the near future.  We got 2 three stripped Cory and 3 neon tetras.  They all seem to be doing really well.  I do realize they do better in larger groups so was thinking we add another Cory and two more tetras in a week or two.  I just wanted to make sure the tank was ready before fully stocking it.

My last thought would be to add a single feature fish like a Honey Gourami or something similar.  This would likely be a little later down the road.  Would be open to any ideas.  
Ok so the fish we bought are going strong.  Typically do a water change every weekend but missed a weekend due to traveling so had to wait an extra week and when I tested it all the levels were great and I feel like the tank is in great shape.  Given this I am going to add to the tank in near term with plan of 2 more neon Tetras as they are just great fish and a single feature fish.  Will update once they are added in.  

 
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What kind of substrate are you guys using?  I changed my tank to a Red Clay substrate.  I looks great, the landscape looks a lot like the outskirts Vegas but it's dirty as all hell.

I rinsed it several times before using it and it's still getting caked up in the filtration systems after having for almost 2 months now.  The plants seem to like it but the sediment puts a layer of clay dust on everything.

Going to switch but not sure which one to change to.  Planted take, community fish, 20 gallons.  Kinda small I know but it was my daughter's tank that turned into my tank...

 
What kind of substrate are you guys using?  I changed my tank to a Red Clay substrate.  I looks great, the landscape looks a lot like the outskirts Vegas but it's dirty as all hell.

I rinsed it several times before using it and it's still getting caked up in the filtration systems after having for almost 2 months now.  The plants seem to like it but the sediment puts a layer of clay dust on everything.

Going to switch but not sure which one to change to.  Planted take, community fish, 20 gallons.  Kinda small I know but it was my daughter's tank that turned into my tank...
Clay will never stop leaching into the water. Is this stuff sold as substrate? 

My last tank had a sand substrate. It was awesome. The landscape changed a lot from day to day and that was fantastic. 

 
I use black diamond blasting sand in my tank. I really like the look and the bottom feeders (a few corys and 3 chain loaches) don't seem to mind it.

It's easy to plant in, but it's innert, so I need to fertilize. My plants are doing ok, but not thriving. I'm using the fluval 3.0 fixture so I should be able to grow basic stuff. My crypts just sort of maintain and swords send out new leaves but no runners. My vals really aren't doing well at all.  I still have some minor algae problems. I may have to bite the bullet and go to pressurized co2 at some point.

My plants never did better than when I used basic play sand and a t5ho fixture.

 
Bought my kids a 10 gallon tank. 

4 dead fishes in 5 days. 

Think I've worked out the kinks though, hopefully good moving forward. 
So since this post, I've had another 4 dead fish. 4 dead in the first week and another 4 over the last 2 months. 

I have 2 that we call the OGs (my son believes OG stands for Original Guppy :lol:  ) and 3 that replaced those that proceeded them. 3 that died are glofish tetras (green, orange, and pink) - cool looking fish. 

After the 3 glofish died, I emptied the tank and started it over again. Think I'm starting to get the hang of this (although it was my ####### wife/kids that wanted this and I'm the only one tending to it) - I feed them a pinch every other day, once every other week I take about 1/3 of the water out and replace with water that I add water conditioner to before dumping in the tank. 

So two of our fish are now 2 months old and the other 3 are 2 weeks old... Hoping our OGs can make it to at least 6 months. 

 
So since this post, I've had another 4 dead fish. 4 dead in the first week and another 4 over the last 2 months. 

I have 2 that we call the OGs (my son believes OG stands for Original Guppy :lol:  ) and 3 that replaced those that proceeded them. 3 that died are glofish tetras (green, orange, and pink) - cool looking fish. 

After the 3 glofish died, I emptied the tank and started it over again. Think I'm starting to get the hang of this (although it was my ####### wife/kids that wanted this and I'm the only one tending to it) - I feed them a pinch every other day, once every other week I take about 1/3 of the water out and replace with water that I add water conditioner to before dumping in the tank. 

So two of our fish are now 2 months old and the other 3 are 2 weeks old... Hoping our OGs can make it to at least 6 months. 
Do you use a air bubbler?  Also,  you need to let the water sit in the tank for a week or so to let the microbes (sp?) establish.  Throwing all the water out is a bad idea unless it’s contaminated.  

Live plants also help stabilize water.  What kind of filstration are you using and is your heater keeping he tank at 78 degrees. 

Check the Nitrate, make sure it’s not over 40 ppm (I think that’s the measurement, on my phone atm). 

That should cut out the most common oversights to setting up a new tank 

 
I know everyone calls for water changes  but I’ve had a tank for 25 years and my changes consist of replacing what ever evaporates.  Maybe I’m lucky but I’ve never had significant fish loss. To each their own but if things are happy don’t mess with it. 

 
I know everyone calls for water changes  but I’ve had a tank for 25 years and my changes consist of replacing what ever evaporates.  Maybe I’m lucky but I’ve never had significant fish loss. To each their own but if things are happy don’t mess with it. 
Tank size and amount of fish & plants matter.  My buddie has a 175 gallon tank with a forest in it but only 3 fish.  Does a 20% change every 4-6 months.  The plants and filtration basically removes all the No2 & No3

 
Has anyone done something like putting a plant-friendly substrate down and then putting inert gravel over top it?  I want live plants, but also want brown stone pebbles.  Can I do that?

Also, settled on a lineup of really common, basic fish for the most part:

Golden Bristlenose
6 Sterbai Corys
6 Kuhli Loaches
Dwarf Gourami
4 Fancytail Guppies
9 Cardinal Tetras
9 Harlequin Rasbora


Going to see how that looks before I decide on adding a third schooling fish.  If I have room, I'll bring in some Celestial Pearl Danios.  Hoping the Cards (middle) and Rasbora (top) settle into different layers.

 
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Has anyone done something like putting a plant-friendly substrate down and then putting inert gravel over top it?  I want live plants, but also want brown stone pebbles.  Can I do that?
Yes, it looks great as soon as it's done but with bottom feeders like corys that are constantly picking at the gravel and pushing plants around it starts to mix over time.  And once it's mixed it, well mixed.

 
Yes, it looks great as soon as it's done but with bottom feeders like corys that are constantly picking at the gravel and pushing plants around it starts to mix over time.  And once it's mixed it, well mixed.
I was thinking of using a finer bottom/plant layer so it would settle back to the bottom when it got stirred up.  I have no idea if that's a real thing though.

 
So since this post, I've had another 4 dead fish. 4 dead in the first week and another 4 over the last 2 months. 

I have 2 that we call the OGs (my son believes OG stands for Original Guppy :lol:  ) and 3 that replaced those that proceeded them. 3 that died are glofish tetras (green, orange, and pink) - cool looking fish. 

After the 3 glofish died, I emptied the tank and started it over again. Think I'm starting to get the hang of this (although it was my ####### wife/kids that wanted this and I'm the only one tending to it) - I feed them a pinch every other day, once every other week I take about 1/3 of the water out and replace with water that I add water conditioner to before dumping in the tank. 

So two of our fish are now 2 months old and the other 3 are 2 weeks old... Hoping our OGs can make it to at least 6 months. 
We did the glofish thing at first and they all died quickly. I then realized they are basically manufactured fish and kept away from them. Got some neon tetras instead and they are doing great. 

Also, aren’t you in Brooklyn?  If so I can let you know of an independent fish shop which I have found to be a lot more useful then the chains you see everywhere. 

 
Cleaning out the basement I found a little 1.5 gallon aquarium with hood that my kids had for a goldfish about 20 years ago.  No filtration but a little pump, air stone and hood with light.   I was thinking of taking it to work for my desk and checked online to see what kind of fish I can put in the thing and the consensus seems to be none.   The reason being that it is cruel to put any fish in a tank so small.   

Our local aquarium shop has really small and cheap feeder guppies so I was thinking maybe one of those.  I mean, wouldn't it be better to be a tiny fish in a tiny tank than being dinner in a big tank?

So I need a call here -- buy a feeder guppy or just pitch the worthless tank?

 
Cleaning out the basement I found a little 1.5 gallon aquarium with hood that my kids had for a goldfish about 20 years ago.  No filtration but a little pump, air stone and hood with light.   I was thinking of taking it to work for my desk and checked online to see what kind of fish I can put in the thing and the consensus seems to be none.   The reason being that it is cruel to put any fish in a tank so small.    

Our local aquarium shop has really small and cheap feeder guppies so I was thinking maybe one of those.  I mean, wouldn't it be better to be a tiny fish in a tiny tank than being dinner in a big tank?

So I need a call here -- buy a feeder guppy or just pitch the worthless tank?
You could probably do a simple planted tank with a few shrimp.  (just some moss or maybe some anubias or java fern) There are some pretty cool ones.

Beta would also work, but I still dont like the idea of keeping anything in a tank that small

Plus you basically get no margin for error with so little water.

 
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Cleaning out the basement I found a little 1.5 gallon aquarium with hood that my kids had for a goldfish about 20 years ago.  No filtration but a little pump, air stone and hood with light.   I was thinking of taking it to work for my desk and checked online to see what kind of fish I can put in the thing and the consensus seems to be none.   The reason being that it is cruel to put any fish in a tank so small.   

Our local aquarium shop has really small and cheap feeder guppies so I was thinking maybe one of those.  I mean, wouldn't it be better to be a tiny fish in a tiny tank than being dinner in a big tank?

So I need a call here -- buy a feeder guppy or just pitch the worthless tank?
A beta fish might like it but agree it's really hard to keep the water stable at that size.

I like the idea of just putting plants in it. 

 
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Do you use a air bubbler?  Also,  you need to let the water sit in the tank for a week or so to let the microbes (sp?) establish.  Throwing all the water out is a bad idea unless it’s contaminated.  

Live plants also help stabilize water.  What kind of filstration are you using and is your heater keeping he tank at 78 degrees. 

Check the Nitrate, make sure it’s not over 40 ppm (I think that’s the measurement, on my phone atm). 

That should cut out the most common oversights to setting up a new tank 
What's an air bubbler? I'm reading they're good for circulation? 

Live plants? I've got a bunch of the decorative fake plants in there from Petsmart. Won't live plants make the tank even dirtier?

We have a heater and the water is usually between 78-80. Filter/heater came with the tank.

Nitrate, huh? I haven't done any any of that. 

We did the glofish thing at first and they all died quickly. I then realized they are basically manufactured fish and kept away from them. Got some neon tetras instead and they are doing great. 

Also, aren’t you in Brooklyn?  If so I can let you know of an independent fish shop which I have found to be a lot more useful then the chains you see everywhere. 
What neighborhood is this fish shop in? We have a Petsmart about 7 blocks away, that's where I've done my fish shopping to date.

 
Cleaning out the basement I found a little 1.5 gallon aquarium with hood that my kids had for a goldfish about 20 years ago.  No filtration but a little pump, air stone and hood with light.   I was thinking of taking it to work for my desk and checked online to see what kind of fish I can put in the thing and the consensus seems to be none.   The reason being that it is cruel to put any fish in a tank so small.   

Our local aquarium shop has really small and cheap feeder guppies so I was thinking maybe one of those.  I mean, wouldn't it be better to be a tiny fish in a tiny tank than being dinner in a big tank?

So I need a call here -- buy a feeder guppy or just pitch the worthless tank?
Get another tank. Don't do that even to a guppy. Go with a five gallon and get some neon tetras

 
What neighborhood is this fish shop in? We have a Petsmart about 7 blocks away, that's where I've done my fish shopping to date.
They are a small local store owned/run by a really nice guy.  In addition, to selling fish and supplies out of the store they build, stock and maintain high end custom aquariums throughout the city.  They really know their stuff and are super helpful.  I bought my fish and supplies from them after I went the Petland route.  

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS814US814&ei=DzGRXOzoNY3H_Qa7-KfoBg&q=creative+aquarium+nation+brooklyn+ny&oq=creative+aquarium+nation+brooklyn+ny&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i71l8.0.0..182863...0.0..0.0.0.......0......gws-wiz.23U11qmbw_A

 
Get another tank. Don't do that even to a guppy. Go with a five gallon and get some neon tetras
Nah.  I have a 33 gallon at home and not really interested in buying anything for work.  I just figured I would take it if it was usable.  I'll just pitch it, no big deal but because of FBGs some little guppy will get eaten when he could have had a happy but cramped life in my tiny tank.    I hope you guys will be able to sleep knowing that...

 
Nah.  I have a 33 gallon at home and not really interested in buying anything for work.  I just figured I would take it if it was usable.  I'll just pitch it, no big deal but because of FBGs some little guppy will get eaten when he could have had a happy but cramped life in my tiny tank.    I hope you guys will be able to sleep knowing that...
:cry:

 
Nah.  I have a 33 gallon at home and not really interested in buying anything for work.  I just figured I would take it if it was usable.  I'll just pitch it, no big deal but because of FBGs some little guppy will get eaten when he could have had a happy but cramped life in my tiny tank.    I hope you guys will be able to sleep knowing that...
In fairness, serving its role in the food chain / cycle of life is probably a more meaningful existence for the guppy than watching you work all day.

 
I was thinking of using a finer bottom/plant layer so it would settle back to the bottom when it got stirred up.  I have no idea if that's a real thing though.
Getting ready to (re)start a new project. 4' L x 4' W x 9" H tank (old frag tank) dedicated to shrimp and foreground plants. I may add CO2 later. 5 bags of eco-complete will go down thickest in the center then radiate out. Blasting sand will cap it all. If anyone's growing Buces, blyxa japonica, or Euroes, or is raising Shrimp (Neos) please PM me. I'm still a week or so off for plants, and ~month for shrimp. Also can anyone can recommend a shrimp save root tab?

DIY spray bar with a canister for main filtration and a few sponge filters to help polish the water a bit. The eco-complete is dark as is the blasting sand so the hope is it'll still look nice even after it gets tossed around a bit.

Local fish auction coming up at the EOM so looking to trade out some fish, and try some new stuff as well in my other tanks. If anyone wants 2M 2F auloncara ruby reds (that's what I was told I was getting, but the red is really yellow) let me know. The dominant male is really nice and they've spawned a number of times (I suck at stripping the fry). 

 
AQUASHELLA was pretty awesome.  I might head to the one in Chicago too, it was that good.  I've been doing a planted tank for a while now but after this event, I think I'm ready to take on corals.  I've spent money on hobbies with much lower ROI so why not. 

 
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AQUASHELLA was pretty awesome.  I might head to the one in Chicago too, it was that good.  I've been doing a planted tank for a while now but after this event, I think I'm ready to take on corals.  I've spent money on hobbies with much lower ROI so why not. 
The problem with salt is the water changes. If you don't do them the algae gets really bad no matter how many turbo snails you have. Buddy of mine went small. Like a 20 gallon. What he did was pick up a 5 gallon bucket of RO water from the pet store near him every other week. Drain 5 gallons, add in the 5 gallons and done. His tank was immaculate all the time. Doing the same with a 100 gallon would be a little harder. 

 
TheFanatic said:
The problem with salt is the water changes. If you don't do them the algae gets really bad no matter how many turbo snails you have. Buddy of mine went small. Like a 20 gallon. What he did was pick up a 5 gallon bucket of RO water from the pet store near him every other week. Drain 5 gallons, add in the 5 gallons and done. His tank was immaculate all the time. Doing the same with a 100 gallon would be a little harder. 
I wouldn't go that big, 20 gallons is plenty for corals and maybe a few clown fish.  I'd do that until I'm 100% more confident. The downside is 20 gallons is harder to keep stable.  The changes wouldn't bother me, I do a 10% on my tank every weekend on my current planted tank, clean it and monitor the Co2. 

 
I wouldn't go that big, 20 gallons is plenty for corals and maybe a few clown fish.  I'd do that until I'm 100% more confident. The downside is 20 gallons is harder to keep stable.  The changes wouldn't bother me, I do a 10% on my tank every weekend on my current planted tank, clean it and monitor the Co2. 
Yeah, I always thought the 30 was the sweet spot for a balance between small and stable. 

 
Hey... question for anyone who sees it.

I'm up and running, and planted with five bunches of plants over the weekend.  Couple swords and three stem bunches I separated.

No fish yet, but I'm getting a higher nitrate reading and also nitrites today. Why am I seeing nitrites and elevated nitrates?  Are the small bits of decaying plant doing that?  What's converting those into nitrates if I don't have fish or a bacteria colony in the tank yet?

I have a small bio filter bag with media in my kids' small aquarium right now to help boost my own when I need bacteria.  Should I move that in now or wait until I add my first fish.

 
Hey... question for anyone who sees it.

I'm up and running, and planted with five bunches of plants over the weekend.  Couple swords and three stem bunches I separated.

No fish yet, but I'm getting a higher nitrate reading and also nitrites today. Why am I seeing nitrites and elevated nitrates?  Are the small bits of decaying plant doing that?  What's converting those into nitrates if I don't have fish or a bacteria colony in the tank yet?

I have a small bio filter bag with media in my kids' small aquarium right now to help boost my own when I need bacteria.  Should I move that in now or wait until I add my first fish.
How high is the nitrate?  That might simply be the nitrate in your tap water.  Also, you need to cycle the take by either putting some feeder fish that will die and start the ammonia cycling process or use Ammonium Chloride .  Also, what are your current nitrite and ammonia levels?  And yes the small bio filter from another tank will help jump start the cycling, do that before adding fish (unless again you're adding feeder fish to die and start cycle).

 
How high is the nitrate?  That might simply be the nitrate in your tap water.  Also, you need to cycle the take by either putting some feeder fish that will die and start the ammonia cycling process or use Ammonium Chloride .  Also, what are your current nitrite and ammonia levels?  And yes the small bio filter from another tank will help jump start the cycling, do that before adding fish (unless again you're adding feeder fish to die and start cycle).
Nitrates 10-15ppm, Nitrites ~4ppm, 0 ammonia.  

Readings from tap barely register -- the tank's been running for 2+ weeks and this is the first time I've seen any nitrites or more than trace nitrates.  

Pretty sure it's plant decay at this point, with residual bacteria from the eco-complete I put under the gravel starting the cycle.  I wrote the eco-complete off because I thought the bacteria in it would die with nothing to feed on, but apparently it lived long enough to start feeding on the ammonia from the dead plant material.

So basically I've started my cycle already without meaning to.  I'm still going to add some Safestart when I put fish in, but I'm ahead of the game.

 
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It's plant decay and the bacteria that came in on the plants. If you could get some water from a local pet store, you could cycle the tank without any fish. Although, the plants my do it for you. they brought in some bacteria with them. Given enough time, they will take care of business.

Speaking of the plants, what is your lighting set up?

 
Dinsy Ejotuz said:
Nitrates 10-15ppm, Nitrites ~4ppm, 0 ammonia.  

Readings from tap barely register -- the tank's been running for 2+ weeks and this is the first time I've seen any nitrites or more than trace nitrates.  

Pretty sure it's plant decay at this point, with residual bacteria from the eco-complete I put under the gravel starting the cycle.  I wrote the eco-complete off because I thought the bacteria in it would die with nothing to feed on, but apparently it lived long enough to start feeding on the ammonia from the dead plant material.

So basically I've started my cycle already without meaning to.  I'm still going to add some Safestart when I put fish in, but I'm ahead of the game.
Are you feeding the plants anything?  Co2, Flourish products and like @TheFanatic said what kind of lighting do you have?  

 
Are you feeding the plants anything?  Co2, Flourish products and like @TheFanatic said what kind of lighting do you have?  
I've been able to get away with not doing much feeding, but extra lighting was always a must for any plants I grew. I once pulled an amazon sword out of a 45 high that was the size of a basketball. 

 
I put 40 pounds of eco-complete red under 30 pounds of gravel, with a Fluval 3.0 plant light (the phone app and settings control is :wub: ).  I'm running the lights 10 hours a day, with a 90-minute ramp up/down on either side.

FWIW, I've got all easy plants that all seem to be doing well (root growth, look healthy, etc).  Pretty sure they're thriving at this point.

Just checked again and, yep, still have nitrites, so something's converting ammonia for me.

I won't be introducing fish until mid-August since I don't think it makes any sense to put them in until after vacation.  Will use Safe Start even if I think I've got the cycle going pretty good.

 
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Also, I think this is too many fish for a 40 gallon and that Gourami will eat the tetras, guppies and the apistogramma depending on its size.
I disagree on both counts. the vast majority of the fish will be rasboras and tetras. And I don't see that gourami eating anything unless the fish breed and it snags some babies. Actually, if it were me, I would up the neon tetras to 18 or 24. 

 
I disagree on both counts. the vast majority of the fish will be rasboras and tetras. And I don't see that gourami eating anything unless the fish breed and it snags some babies. Actually, if it were me, I would up the neon tetras to 18 or 24. 
I haven't had much luck with Gouramis in a community tank, they've always bullied my other fish but I guess we'll see :shrug:  

 
It  may be too many aesthetically, so I'm going to add them slowly and see what happens.  The site does recommend that I change ~35% of my water each week if I stock it that heavily though -- so it's pretty full.

I did split the tank into top/bottom though:

  • Tetras/Rasboras/Gourami/Guppy (mid/up)
  • Corys, Kuhlis, Apisto and snails (bottom)
I leaned on Aquavisor for compatibility stuff, but then did a fair bit of follow-up on the big, centerpiece fish (Pearl Gourami and Apisto, plus a bunch of others I ruled out for different reasons) to make sure I was unlikely to have problems.  Single males without females should be good.  The apisto will want a "cave" and some territory but as the only male it shouldn't be a problem.  The Gourami might eat the tetras/rasboras if they were really small, but I'm planning to buy a smaller pearl to start, so don't expect any issues there.

The last fish in are the guppy pair and the loaches, so if it feels too crowded I'll probably drop those.

I'm more worried about whether I can put snails in or not, long-term.  My ph is like 6.6-6.8 and snails want it higher than that for their shells.  But I can't tell from research if 6.7 is, "meh, it just won't look perfect" or "it will eventually die".  gh and kh are both like 5-7.

And @Arizona Ron, if I remember right you're in/around DC?  If so, House of Tropicals up in Glen Burnie is absolutely worth a trip.  By a mile the best of the stores I've been to in this area.  The one in Centreville is #2.

 

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