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2021 Buffalo Bills - Same as it ever was*** (4 Viewers)
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higgins
Footballguy
Do you mean 'voila' ?Well, last year ESPN projected them to have 3 wins, so WaLa!Seriously? What possible justification would there be for a regression? They are basically the same, or slightly better than last year all across the team.ESPN is projecting the Bills to have 5 wins this season.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
No. That would be silly.Do you mean 'voila' ?Well, last year ESPN projected them to have 3 wins, so WaLa!Seriously? What possible justification would there be for a regression? They are basically the same, or slightly better than last year all across the team.ESPN is projecting the Bills to have 5 wins this season.
burnall
Footballguy
haha yeah i'm going this year too, i'm counting on alot of the cowboys fans to show up so i dont get mobbed lol, but as Buffalo is my local team i do watch them alot, and they are putting some great talent together, all they need is average QB play and they should have a 9-11 win season on the way.
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GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I'm not sure if I just chose to forget this or what, but reading an article on SI.com about Aaron Rodgers falling in the draft, had me go back and look at that draft and be reminded that the Bills missed out on Rodgers because they had traded away that first rounder the year before to move up and get JP Losman.
Borden
Footballguy
As a Bills fan you should know better than to go back and look at the past.I'm not sure if I just chose to forget this or what, but reading an article on SI.com about Aaron Rodgers falling in the draft, had me go back and look at that draft and be reminded that the Bills missed out on Rodgers because they had traded away that first rounder the year before to move up and get JP Losman.
But yes I agree.
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Not sure why he couldn't have learned just as much sitting behind Kelly Holcomb.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I opened up my wallet and got two tickets to week 1 vs. Indianapolis off Stubhub for me and my son. Really looking forward to this. I've never been to a Bills home game before, and I'm thrilled to be there for the start of a new era. Any my poor son was literally in diapers for the Illegal Forward Pass game, so his whole life has been the valley years. Win or lose, we're both happy to be able to be there for the beginning of the first full season of Pegula/Ryan.
Edit: For those that don't know this, we live in South Dakota, so this is a little bit of a pilgrimage. I went to college and grad school in Indiana, so I went to lots of away games against Indy, and I've seen the Bills in Chicago and KC, but never at home.
Edit: For those that don't know this, we live in South Dakota, so this is a little bit of a pilgrimage. I went to college and grad school in Indiana, so I went to lots of away games against Indy, and I've seen the Bills in Chicago and KC, but never at home.
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Super King
Footballguy
Nice... What you doing about tailgating?
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GroveDiesel
Footballguy
2 interesting notes from today's mini-camp:
1) Rex raved about Marquise Goodwin. Says he has been almost unstoppable through the first 2 days of camp. That's all well and good, but he needs to stay healthy, actually catch the ball consistently, and show up in games. But good to hear anyway. Seems like a guy that had some potential, but was pretty raw.
2) Rex had to pull Hughes from practice. Not because he was hurt, yelling or anything like that, but because he was so dominant that he was ruining practice. Would have had 5 or 6 sacks in the limited time he was out there. Signing him was such a good move.
On the other hand, if he had that much success, that means the offensive line was seeing that much failure...
Quick note on the first day of mini-camp: Rex was all positives about Cassel and his ability to quickly read defenses and get the ball out. Rex said Manuel looked good, but "needs to speed things up." I have to believe that just that comment alone is enough to indicate that the job is going to be Cassel's to lose. The Bills have a lot of playmakers that excel in space. It's imperative that the QB be able to pull the trigger quickly and give the playmakers a chance to use that space.
1) Rex raved about Marquise Goodwin. Says he has been almost unstoppable through the first 2 days of camp. That's all well and good, but he needs to stay healthy, actually catch the ball consistently, and show up in games. But good to hear anyway. Seems like a guy that had some potential, but was pretty raw.
2) Rex had to pull Hughes from practice. Not because he was hurt, yelling or anything like that, but because he was so dominant that he was ruining practice. Would have had 5 or 6 sacks in the limited time he was out there. Signing him was such a good move.
On the other hand, if he had that much success, that means the offensive line was seeing that much failure...
Quick note on the first day of mini-camp: Rex was all positives about Cassel and his ability to quickly read defenses and get the ball out. Rex said Manuel looked good, but "needs to speed things up." I have to believe that just that comment alone is enough to indicate that the job is going to be Cassel's to lose. The Bills have a lot of playmakers that excel in space. It's imperative that the QB be able to pull the trigger quickly and give the playmakers a chance to use that space.
OC Zed
Footballguy
1. The line sucks and they did nothing for the second straight year to fix that. We can only pray for help in the draft, but I'm not holding my breath.
2. It won't matter who the QB is as this team will have the most conservative offense outside of the Ivy League.
I hope I'm wrong on both of those counts, but I'm a Bills fan so I have reason to be pessimistic.
Borden
Footballguy
They brought in Incognito and the draft hasn't went yet so it's difficult to say they haven't done anything. Other teams aren't going to let quality OL go for cheap in trades and FA offensive linemen are always going to be over priced. I'm not sure what you expect them to do.
The Bills have some young guys that may still develop. Plus they might add some in the draft too.
The Bills have some young guys that may still develop. Plus they might add some in the draft too.
ajm27501
Footballguy
They also picked up Chris Williams and drafted three linemen in last year's offseason. We can call the line a weakness, but it's not fair or accurate to say that they haven't done anything to address it. Whether or not they successfully addressed it is the more important question.
Mr. Peterson
Footballguy
I think we are a guard away from having a pretty good O-line. I also really think we get to see our 2nd round pick last year step up and help this team.
Mr. Peterson
Footballguy
Not sure how the rest of you Bills fans feel, but I would be ecstatic if we got Bryce Pretty. Let Cassell hand the ball off this year and allow Petty to learn the NFL.
I don't think Manual or Taylor somehow become the QB of the future, but if they show signs of possibly being the guy, then having too many good QB's is never a bad thing. Load up until you find one.
I don't think Manual or Taylor somehow become the QB of the future, but if they show signs of possibly being the guy, then having too many good QB's is never a bad thing. Load up until you find one.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
No way. Petty is going to go in the 2nd. If he's there in the 3rd or 4th, then ok, but not in the 2nd.
ScottNorwood
Footballcutie
They might do the old "Trade up and then reach" like what they did with JP Losman. We might see the Bills grab Petty tonight.
On The Rocks
Evil Conservative
I agree...I'd be pretty happy with Laken Tomlinson in the 2nd and the best available QB in the 3rd. But I sense any QB taken in the 3rd, although not out of the question, the odds are against that QB becoming a franchise guy.
ETA: Unfortunately, I doubt Tomlinson lasts to their 2nd round pick.
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OC Zed
Footballguy
I thought Chris Williams was a bad signing when it happened and we got even less production out of him than I expected. I'm also not a believer in Incognito or seeing material improvement from last year's rookies.
OC Zed
Footballguy
Mr. Peterson
Footballguy
I don't necessarily mean in the 2nd. I just meant at any time.
And how much do you think it will take to trade up and get Collins? Imagine that guy at SS in Rex's D. Can't believe him and Gregory haven't been drafted yet.
And speaking of draft fallers, I don't think I'd care if the Bills took a shot on Collins the OT. If he's cleared of everything then he'll be a steal. What do we have to lose?
And how much do you think it will take to trade up and get Collins? Imagine that guy at SS in Rex's D. Can't believe him and Gregory haven't been drafted yet.
And speaking of draft fallers, I don't think I'd care if the Bills took a shot on Collins the OT. If he's cleared of everything then he'll be a steal. What do we have to lose?
Borden
Footballguy
So I was watch some Bryce Petty (convincing myself he's the next Aaron Rodgers) and something popped out at me.
At about the 6:50 mark in the video (link below) he gets what a consider a low, late, dirty hit on the side line and into the bench and none of his team mates do anything. I think one guy might say something to the WV guy but that's it. This is a close game Baylor was ranked #4 at the time and nobody on the side line even really reacts to it. I know this is just some stupid little thing but it makes me wonder what kind of locker room guy he is.
http://draftbreakdown.com/video/bryce-petty-vs-west-virginia-2014/
At about the 6:50 mark in the video (link below) he gets what a consider a low, late, dirty hit on the side line and into the bench and none of his team mates do anything. I think one guy might say something to the WV guy but that's it. This is a close game Baylor was ranked #4 at the time and nobody on the side line even really reacts to it. I know this is just some stupid little thing but it makes me wonder what kind of locker room guy he is.
http://draftbreakdown.com/video/bryce-petty-vs-west-virginia-2014/
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Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
I'm not sure how you can say that so definitively. It cuts away so quick. Plus it looks like a couple players are looking at the WV guy and starting to walk toward him right as it cuts away. Most of the rest in the area were looking to see if Petty was ok.
On The Rocks
Evil Conservative
I would have liked somehow getting Tomlinson on the roster - and after seeing his brief post pick interview, I would have LOVED having this guy.
Pretty impressive young man.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I'd rather they sit tight. One of Clemmings, Fisher, Cann or Smith should be there at 50. They already are so low on draft picks for this year. And with so many big young guys about to be free agents next year, they can't really afford to be trading away more picks.
OC Zed
Footballguy
Borden
Footballguy
The camera stays there long enough to see that the sideline doesn't lose their mind. I would think that in that situation there would an immediate ruckus. It is probably nothing but it stuck out to me.I posted thinking maybe someone had heard one way or the other about his character/leadership etc. Or if I was just being crazy. Appears I might just be seeing things.
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GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I'd probably be ok with it. Although I think I may prefer an OG or OT in the 2nd and taking David Funchess in the 3rd. Get Funchess into an NFL weight program to beef him up a bit and he could be a very good receiving TE IMO.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
FWIW, his strong leadership and "intangibles" are cited in just about every draft profile of him. He works really hard and is said to love the game. He also showed a lot of loyalty to Baylor along the way. That doesn't mean his teammates loved him, but it seems like the evidence is more in his favor than against it.
The camera shows everyone in his immediate vicinity turning to him, dropping their arms, and staring helpless. If anything, it looked like a collective, "oh ####" moment.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
AJ Cann, Jake Fisher, TJ Clemmings, Eric Rowe and Maxx Williams all still available. Playing out like a dream for the Bills so far.
And of course red flag top talent guys Gregory and Collins still available...
And of course red flag top talent guys Gregory and Collins still available...
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Mr. Peterson
Footballguy
We didn't have a first. Swing for the fences! Take a chance on Gregory or La'El Collins.
If not I'm hoping for Max Williams or TJ Clemmings. Maybe Perryman or Dawson. Shoot. Maybe Petty.
If not I'm hoping for Max Williams or TJ Clemmings. Maybe Perryman or Dawson. Shoot. Maybe Petty.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
I thought he would take Gregory for sure.
Mr. Peterson
Footballguy
I don't get it....
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Not who I wanted, but great to see #12 out there.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I don't love it, but:
1) CB was an under the radar need with McKelvin and Graham both having big cap numbers next year and getting older.
2) Rex has a pretty good track record with drafting CBs. If you look at his draft profile, it's kind of similar to Revis's.
1) CB was an under the radar need with McKelvin and Graham both having big cap numbers next year and getting older.
2) Rex has a pretty good track record with drafting CBs. If you look at his draft profile, it's kind of similar to Revis's.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Pretty sure. Both very athletic and stick to receivers like glue. Both read and diagnose offenses really well. Both have great recovery. Both credited with good ball awareness and both unfairly criticized for lack of INTs.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
In 2013 when FSU won the championship, Darby gave up just 9 receptions all year. He was such a shutdown guy that he was only targeted 27 times that year in 14 games played and 9 starts. That's absurdly low.
Borden
Footballguy
@JaySkurski: Whaley on the gap between Darby and the offensive linemen left on the board. It was "big enough that we didn't have a debate."
