unckeyherb
Footballguy
starting Lacy. Been hoping I made it through round one to capitalize on this juicy matchup. I made it and now I'm ready for Lacy to lay the smackdown.
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Anyone not like Eddie Lacy? (1 Viewer)
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Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Remember the Thanksgiving debacle.You sure they'll steam roll? Dallas looks really dysfunctional right now. On defense they're a hot mess. Their last 6 games they have let up an average of 161 yards rushing a game. They've also given up an average of 465 yards per game over that stretch.seriously? starting not one but two Packer rb's? Dallas is going to steamroll, and then Flynn/Tolzien will be in garbage time, junk screen mode. complete abandoment of the run. you really want to do this? the starting qb is flynn for heavens sake!
Even with Flynn in there, I see a Packers desperation win on the road. They have enough talent on offense to move the ball against that defense.
Insein
Footballguy
Against a better Detroit defense and in a game where momentum just crushed them. Dallas has nothing on defense.Remember the Thanksgiving debacle.You sure they'll steam roll? Dallas looks really dysfunctional right now. On defense they're a hot mess. Their last 6 games they have let up an average of 161 yards rushing a game. They've also given up an average of 465 yards per game over that stretch.Even with Flynn in there, I see a Packers desperation win on the road. They have enough talent on offense to move the ball against that defense.seriously? starting not one but two Packer rb's? Dallas is going to steamroll, and then Flynn/Tolzien will be in garbage time, junk screen mode. complete abandoment of the run. you really want to do this? the starting qb is flynn for heavens sake!
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
True, but they can get pressure on the QB. Ultimately their best defense is a good offense. And the Packers d blows, without the protection of Erin.Against a better Detroit defense and in a game where momentum just crushed them. Dallas has nothing on defense.Remember the Thanksgiving debacle.You sure they'll steam roll? Dallas looks really dysfunctional right now. On defense they're a hot mess. Their last 6 games they have let up an average of 161 yards rushing a game. They've also given up an average of 465 yards per game over that stretch.Even with Flynn in there, I see a Packers desperation win on the road. They have enough talent on offense to move the ball against that defense.seriously? starting not one but two Packer rb's? Dallas is going to steamroll, and then Flynn/Tolzien will be in garbage time, junk screen mode. complete abandoment of the run. you really want to do this? the starting qb is flynn for heavens sake!
Have you watched any Dallas game lately, like the game against Chicago this past week where Chicago never had to punt and scored on every drive save the kneel down to end the game? Did you see Michael Bush, who for the year was averaging 2.0 ypc get 38 yards on 8 carries for 4.8ypc?Remember the Thanksgiving debacle.You sure they'll steam roll? Dallas looks really dysfunctional right now. On defense they're a hot mess. Their last 6 games they have let up an average of 161 yards rushing a game. They've also given up an average of 465 yards per game over that stretch.seriously? starting not one but two Packer rb's? Dallas is going to steamroll, and then Flynn/Tolzien will be in garbage time, junk screen mode. complete abandoment of the run. you really want to do this? the starting qb is flynn for heavens sake!
Even with Flynn in there, I see a Packers desperation win on the road. They have enough talent on offense to move the ball against that defense.
Detroit's D played stellar and their run D is on another planet than Dallas' D. Lacy should be able to open up the passing game. Detroit jumped in front and stuff Lacy, so they could then pin their ears back and maul Flynn. Dallas has nothing on D and can't stop anyone. Christian Effing Ponder threw for 237-1TD with a rushing TD. I expect Lacy to have a nice day running if healthy and maybe Flynn will give him a ton of dump offs as well.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
Detroit was like top 5 rush defense going into that game. Dallas is dead last in rush defense and their best player, Lee, is injured again.Remember the Thanksgiving debacle.You sure they'll steam roll? Dallas looks really dysfunctional right now. On defense they're a hot mess. Their last 6 games they have let up an average of 161 yards rushing a game. They've also given up an average of 465 yards per game over that stretch.seriously? starting not one but two Packer rb's? Dallas is going to steamroll, and then Flynn/Tolzien will be in garbage time, junk screen mode. complete abandoment of the run. you really want to do this? the starting qb is flynn for heavens sake!
Even with Flynn in there, I see a Packers desperation win on the road. They have enough talent on offense to move the ball against that defense.
If Lacy is playing, expect big things.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Let me try to clear something up. I got no issue with starting Lacy. There should be enough touches if he's active to rely on some nominal to good stats. But the idea of two Packer RB's being start worthy this weekend just boggles my imagination.
Umm, no they can't. Dallas is tied for the 4th lowest sacks. They are also 4th worst in YPA and have given up the most passing yards in the NFL. Sorry, their D is atrocious against the run and pass. If you watched the Chicago game, you would probably think Flynn is a great play this week. GB still has some decent WRs in Boykin, Nelson and Jones. I don't expect Flynn to tear it up, but he will probably have one of his better games.True, but they can get pressure on the QB. Ultimately their best defense is a good offense. And the Packers d blows, without the protection of Erin.Against a better Detroit defense and in a game where momentum just crushed them. Dallas has nothing on defense.Remember the Thanksgiving debacle.You sure they'll steam roll? Dallas looks really dysfunctional right now. On defense they're a hot mess. Their last 6 games they have let up an average of 161 yards rushing a game. They've also given up an average of 465 yards per game over that stretch.Even with Flynn in there, I see a Packers desperation win on the road. They have enough talent on offense to move the ball against that defense.seriously? starting not one but two Packer rb's? Dallas is going to steamroll, and then Flynn/Tolzien will be in garbage time, junk screen mode. complete abandoment of the run. you really want to do this? the starting qb is flynn for heavens sake!
unckeyherb
Footballguy
I agree with that, but you saying Dallas has any D in any way is not true. See my post above, they are historically bad. They have the 5th worst YPA and the 2nd worst YPC, i.e. any way you attack them, they bend over and take it.
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Insein
Footballguy
My mention of starting both was more as insurance. If Lacy starts but gets nicked early and starks is sitting on your bench, that just sucks. It was an odd scenario of starting both because the starter isn't 100% going in. So we don't know how he'll be.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
Insein
Footballguy
You're absolutely right in that it's a conservative approach. It was just a thought.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
With Rodgers out, I'm sitting him. Starting Vareen in his place. Also add in that Manning and Demaryius didnt do their usual thing for me, I need a guaranteed player. I cant risk Lacy playing half the game, I need points. GL everyone.
swirvenirvin
Footballguy
Been fighting with this all week. Have S. Jackson in a good match-up too that I can plug in for Lacy
Kind of same boat didnt get as much out of Manning so dont want to risk him re-injuring it.
Kind of same boat didnt get as much out of Manning so dont want to risk him re-injuring it.
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Insein
Footballguy
If they say he's healthy, I'm starting him. This matchup is just ridiculous. Might be the worst defense in the league right now. The nagging fear is he tweaks it in the first quarter and they sit him for starks rest of the way. Well no guts no glory right. Its playoff time.
Warrior
Footballguy
hooptd
Footballguy
I'm in the same boat with Lacy and I have Jackson. My biggest fear is Lacy aggravates his injury and is pulled. Jackson at home against the Skins is a pretty attractive matchup
sho nuff
Footballguy
Its my fear...but the risk/reward is that if no tweaking occurs...he could very well have a huge day with this matchup.
swirvenirvin
Footballguy
I am sitting on the side with Le'veon Bell - granted Bell's matchup is not great - but he is a lock for 20 touches. Not sure what to do, a 100% healthy Lacy and I am in. Oh the decision.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
I can't sit him... His comments have given me more faith this week too... Plus the probable tag.
If he goes down, I'm sinking with the ship.
If he goes down, I'm sinking with the ship.
Darryl Talley
Footballguy
Won't Dallas just stack the box? And then what?
Insein
Footballguy
Warrior
Footballguy
Won't Detroit just stack the box against LeSean McCoy? Won't every single team in the second half of the 2012 season stack the box against Adrian Peterson?
Doesn't always translate to a bad rushing game. Especially when it's a horrible defense like Dallas.
I don't get this. Not trying to be snarky, I honestly don't understand the logic.
If you only start Lacy, there is a chance that you get bad production from one RB position. If you start both, you are guaranteeing you get bad production from one. That's so conservative, it's reckless.
Insein
Footballguy
Depends on your alternatives. If your options are ogbannaya or dwill, I think guaranteeing that you take advantage of that matchup is more important than the extra upside of 5-8 points.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
You guys are gonna make me flip a coin.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
With probable tag I think he's a must start. If he is playing, Starks shouldn't leave the bench IMO. I'd be shocked if lacy doesn't put up top 10 RB numbers this week. Dallas is farking terrible WITH Sean Lee. Without him lacy should rumble to 100+ yards.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Still nothing definite about him starting, is there?
steveski
Footballguy
I think the active/inactive list comes out at Noon EST right? So another 20 mins or so.
Edit: Crap. Didn't realize it was a 4pm game.
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John 14:6
Jesus is Lord!
Didn't he sit most of the game after breaking of a 45 yard TD several games ago? With lacy being probable, I think he's a safe play.
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steveski
Footballguy
MCguidance
Footballguy
buddhacwru
Footballguy
unckeyherb
Footballguy
If lacy doesn't go then ill have to start one of Smiff or Terrance Williams in my flex position
cubbie5150
Footballguy
Starks is my primary backup plan, but if my opponent's early players (mostly Luck) are putting up huge games, I might roll the dice w/ an Ellington (no...not really, unless I start drinking heavily soon).
swirvenirvin
Footballguy
He was probable? How often are probable not playing?
steveski
Footballguy
John 14:6
Jesus is Lord!
Yeah,I don't understand the concern...
swirvenirvin
Footballguy
right..think he is good to go I am rolling with him, and don t have any 4:00 options to play if he is out
swirvenirvin
Footballguy
Annnd I should have started Jackson :(
MCguidance
Footballguy
Do we have any word on how he looked in warm ups?
