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Anyone not like Eddie Lacy? (3 Viewers)
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Why is Packers running back Eddie Lacyplaying so badly? Some people say his ankle is bothering him. Others say he’s overweight. Lacy says neither of those is the case.
Shortly after coach Mike McCarthy announced that James Starks has been promoted above Lacy on the depth chart, Lacy told reporters in Green Bay that he’s not sure why he’s struggling, but his ankle is fine and he’s not too heavy.
“I honestly don’t know what it is,” Lacy said, via Michael Cohen of the Journal Sentinel. “Definitely, I’m off to a different start. I’m not playing how I was the previous two years. Later on in the season, maybe it’ll pick back up. But as of right now, this is just the move that is going to be. This season [starks] has definitely been the better player between the both of us. That’s just the move.”
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/11/12/eddie-lacy-im-not-hurt-im-not-overweight-i-dont-know-what-it-is/
Shortly after coach Mike McCarthy announced that James Starks has been promoted above Lacy on the depth chart, Lacy told reporters in Green Bay that he’s not sure why he’s struggling, but his ankle is fine and he’s not too heavy.
“I honestly don’t know what it is,” Lacy said, via Michael Cohen of the Journal Sentinel. “Definitely, I’m off to a different start. I’m not playing how I was the previous two years. Later on in the season, maybe it’ll pick back up. But as of right now, this is just the move that is going to be. This season [starks] has definitely been the better player between the both of us. That’s just the move.”
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/11/12/eddie-lacy-im-not-hurt-im-not-overweight-i-dont-know-what-it-is/
tone1oc
Footballguy
On the other hand, if he were to exude confidence you would likely be ripping him for being delusional.
So many of these threads (Abdullah is another example) become so full of trite when a player is underperforming. A piling on circle jerk that provides no meaningful analysis or talk commences and often times the same jokes are recycled. I can appreciate veering off topic and some comedy, but the 1000th joke on Lacy's weight is just boring and stupid.
I'd love to hear some more debate on whether Starks can handle a full workload, or if there were pointers from the past 2 years to Lacy in fact not being very good.
tone1oc
Footballguy
I kind of agree.. But I don't think he needs to lose 30 lbs. even converting some of that weight to muscle with a net loss of 10-15 lbs would likely do wonders.
I recently bought my only share of him for pretty low, I'm hoping that talent will rule the day eventually. I'm not going to pretend that it will happen, but I can see a path where him not getting lead back hits and some motivation can freshen his legs and present a window to help him lean up some.
Above all, I just don't think Starks can handle the load and Lacy will get another shot. Hopefully he is ready and effective when it happens.
dirtyjay
Footballguy
tone1oc
Footballguy
That may be true, but I think losing 30-35 lbs is out of the question for our fantasy window
Lets crawl before we walk.
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Ok so.... is anyone desperate enough to consider the Lion matchup and actually roll (and I do mean roll...) Eddie out as a starter tomorrow?
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
BigBlue_RI
Footballguy
Hell no. I have Starks, glad I drafted him as insurance. I'm rolling him out tomorrow and holding my breath.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Me too. I will be quite pissed with all of this Starks is the lead back talk if Lacy gets the bulk of the work today.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
You know damn well that Lacy will get two tds today. It's a mortal lock.Or he'll be inactive...Godsbrother said:
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thatguythere
Footballguy
What's up with Eddie lacy....really, are we believing it's really his groin?
They need to come up with a mental injury designation.
They need to come up with a mental injury designation.
Uncle Grandpa
Footballguy
I think for the first time this year I can say I like Eddie Lacy.
Go Starks!
Go Starks!
BigBlue_RI
Footballguy
My fantasy team is done because of this situation. I've won two straight fantasy titles with 1 stud RB, 3 great WR and a good/great TE. This year I'm missing the RB because Lacy decided to belly up to the buffet in the offseason.
Updating to add week 9
Week 2 - Lacy goes down - Starks (on everyone's benches) catches the world off guard has a good week
Week 3 - Everyone jumps on the bandwagon, plugs him into their lineups ... Greenbay leans on him and he bombs 17 carries for 1.88 per
Week 4 - Carries fade - enthusiasm fades
Week 5 - Carries fade more - enthusiasm fades more
Week 6 - Back on everyone's benches ... he goes off 11 yards per carry and a TD
Week 7 - Back in everyone's lineup ... and he bombs 5 carries for 1.80 per
Week 8 - Back to the bench ... 80 yards receiving and a TD
Week 9 - Back in everyone's lineup vs the 3rd worst ranked run defense - 15 carries for 42 yards 2.8 per carry
I think you all get the picture ... As bad as Lacy has looked he is a much better featured RB than Starks. Starks is a nice change of pace
ATT YDS AVG
10 46 4.6
18 90 5.0
13 27 2.1
11 38 3.5
05 10 2.0
Total
57 211 3.70
ATT YDS AVG
17 32 1.9
09 28 3.1
05 17 3.4
05 09 1.8
10 39 3.9
15 42 2.8
Total
60 167 2.78
Updated to add Today's game ... who's better?
cmv5
Footballguy
Your opinion feels very biased. Are you purposefully omitting Starks 10 for 112yds? I think the biggest indicator is in games where they have both played, lately. Starks is just playing better. If you don't agree with me, just look at the carries from today's game. How did Lacy do?
BigBlue_RI
Footballguy
Starks still outplayed Lacy today if you look at Eddies 2015 overall. All that was missing was TD format to be a very good fantasy game.
georg013
Footballguy
Im happy for the late game receptions. But lets not act like this was anything close to resembling a good game. If this is outplaying Lacy it shouldnt take long for Lacy to get his job back.
cmv5
Footballguy
Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
Looks like the Packers O can stop blaming Lacy for their poor play. There is a lot broken right now.
georg013
Footballguy
Just awful. Lacy was probably on the sideline smiling because they cant peg it all on him. Starks had no room to run against a very generous run defense.
Weren't you the guy telling me a month ago -- when I said he's fat, done and aging in dog years -- that you had no concern and how he was about to hit his stride?
Yep, it was you.
Shutout
Footballguy
Of course we will never know but I think that game yesterday was the type that they really needed Lacy with a high volume of carries.
It's popular to dog-pile on Lacy this year (reminds me a lot of Foster when all the people that just couldn't stand/accept the fact that a guy could be so much more than what people initially thought are more than happy to come out of the woodworks when its not all going smoothly) but it is CLEAR that this isn't just a "Eddie Lacy is the reason" issue. The Packers, across the board, are disappointing in real life and in fantasy as a whole.
Nobody is happy with any fantasy player they have, sans Rodgers and, compared to himself, he appears to be leaving fantasy points on the field every week.
If Lacy is battling small injuries, then this down time is likely good for him but whether it saves any fantasy season or not, the Packers' best hope in real life might hinge on them getting into some cold weather/bad weather and running with Lacy AND Starks. This passing attack isn't going to light it up this year and the defense has legitimate issues.
It's popular to dog-pile on Lacy this year (reminds me a lot of Foster when all the people that just couldn't stand/accept the fact that a guy could be so much more than what people initially thought are more than happy to come out of the woodworks when its not all going smoothly) but it is CLEAR that this isn't just a "Eddie Lacy is the reason" issue. The Packers, across the board, are disappointing in real life and in fantasy as a whole.
Nobody is happy with any fantasy player they have, sans Rodgers and, compared to himself, he appears to be leaving fantasy points on the field every week.
If Lacy is battling small injuries, then this down time is likely good for him but whether it saves any fantasy season or not, the Packers' best hope in real life might hinge on them getting into some cold weather/bad weather and running with Lacy AND Starks. This passing attack isn't going to light it up this year and the defense has legitimate issues.
Absolutely purposely omitting Starks 10 for 112 aberration and why wouldn't I ?
A) It was against arguably the worst Run Defense in the NFL
B) He was not expected to start that game and took them completely off guard
C) 2 of his 1st 3 Runs went for 90 yds and a TD
D) I'm going to omit Zack Miller's 130 yard and 1 TD outburst as well
And by the way I only counted games in which they both had a decent amount of carries.
Minus the aberration ...
Starks 83 Carries for 264 yards (3.18 yds per carry - or below Trent Richardson's Career avg)
Lacy 83 Carries for 308 yards (3.7 yds per - Lacy's been injured what's Starks excuse?)
And by the way it's not like we don't have years of data supporting the fact that Lacy is better than Starks!
Greenbay may be trying to teach Lacy a lesson but they are cutting of their nose to spite their face.
They lost to Detroit at home !!! End of Story !!!
2.8 yards per carry against Detroit at home and he had a fumble reversed on the most important drive of the game
Yeah he played great !
tone1oc
Footballguy
I think this week went about as well as could go for Lacy owners. Starks showed he's limited and the Packers lost to the lowly Lions at home.
This does not mean Lacy will get back to being the player of the past few years, but I think it does mean Lacy is going to get another shot at lead back duties this year.
This does not mean Lacy will get back to being the player of the past few years, but I think it does mean Lacy is going to get another shot at lead back duties this year.
thatguythere
Footballguy
The pack thought they could rest lacy and breeze by the lions. How many more times do we need to see that starks is complementary rb...?
I didn't see the whole game but that look on that smug ### mccarthy's face was priceless.
I didn't see the whole game but that look on that smug ### mccarthy's face was priceless.
Rob Demovsky
✔@RobDemovsky
McCarthy: "Eddie [Lacy] will go second again this week." ... So James Starks is still the #Packers starting RB.
12:17 PM - 18 Nov 2015
✔@RobDemovsky
McCarthy: "Eddie [Lacy] will go second again this week." ... So James Starks is still the #Packers starting RB.
12:17 PM - 18 Nov 2015
Todem
Footballguy
I would love nothing more than for Eddie to wake up and get it going.
But it is becoming more and more apparent this is not so much a Lacy problem (although he has not looked himself either this season).
This is a Packer problem. They are not the same offense as the last 2 seasons. And one WR can't be the reason it is all falling down. They have too much talent.
They just are not playing good as a unit. Simple as that. That entire offense as well as the coaching staff needs to get it going. Only Aarron Rodgers has performed to his ADP for the most part. The rest of the squad as been a huge disappointment.
But it is becoming more and more apparent this is not so much a Lacy problem (although he has not looked himself either this season).
This is a Packer problem. They are not the same offense as the last 2 seasons. And one WR can't be the reason it is all falling down. They have too much talent.
They just are not playing good as a unit. Simple as that. That entire offense as well as the coaching staff needs to get it going. Only Aarron Rodgers has performed to his ADP for the most part. The rest of the squad as been a huge disappointment.
Faust
MVP
Ball is not Bama - University of Wisconsin
What about Yeldon ... he looks pretty good
So basically the curse only struck TRich
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
grateful zed
Footballguy
bigbrownbag
Footballguy
tone1oc
Footballguy
grateful zed
Footballguy
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Happy I was able to see Lacy for Bell right after that injury.
