Andy Dufresne
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2.41 - Robert Woods, WR - USC
They are looking for a compliment to Stevie and this is a good one.
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Shark Pool Mock #2 - "What teams WILL do" - Spots open. (1 Viewer)
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2.42: RT Menelik Watson
Philbin likes athletic offensive lineman and Watson certainly fits the bill there; a former basketball player that runs a 4.7 40 (his combine time was much slower than that actually). Should step right in at right tackle assuming Miami doesn't acquire a FA or deal this pick for Albert. Terron Armstead would be another fit if Watson is off the table. With the two biggest needs filled pretty well at this point, team can afford to go BPA the rest of the way.
Philbin likes athletic offensive lineman and Watson certainly fits the bill there; a former basketball player that runs a 4.7 40 (his combine time was much slower than that actually). Should step right in at right tackle assuming Miami doesn't acquire a FA or deal this pick for Albert. Terron Armstead would be another fit if Watson is off the table. With the two biggest needs filled pretty well at this point, team can afford to go BPA the rest of the way.
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Andy Dufresne
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Exactly the player I'd hope to see you pick Slappy.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
2.43 - Gavin Escobar, TE - SDSU
A guy to learn from Dallas Clark how to be like Dallas Clark was in his prime.
Suggestions for Carolina?
A guy to learn from Dallas Clark how to be like Dallas Clark was in his prime.
Suggestions for Carolina?
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ExaltedOne
Footballguy
Punter. (joking, but it is a need)
My real answer is Quinton Patton, WR. He has visited them.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Cool, I was thinking Patton.
FUBAR
Footballguy
If we're going off needs, isn't CB a greater priority? Especially facing Brees, Ryan and Tampa.
Good point. I just popped back in to say Banks would be a good option too.
They really need to get Cam some weapons though.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I wonder where teams are at with Banks. I've heard wildly different things.
JMon348
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FUBAR
Footballguy
IMO, Carolina would have to at least consider this. Get some depth.
ETA: don't remember why, but their 3rd belongs to San Fran; picking up a high 4th makes even more sense IMO.
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JMon348
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Andy Dufresne
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JMon348
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Andy Dufresne
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Yes. Carolina moves down.
ExaltedOne
Footballguy
If you don't have another homer for Washington, I'd be happy to select for them once we get there.
Brady Marino
Footballguy
Look for the Rams to stand pat at the 46th overall. There's two guys still on the board that make perfect sense for them, including a real cherry that has fallen on their lap.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
San Diego... 
BPA?
BPA?
Ridgelake
Footballguy
I think I know who they'd be looking at and its someone Dallas has significant interest in.
Brady Marino
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Andy Dufresne
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5Rings
Lurker
Ridgelake
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Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Wait a second.
I'm confused.
Isn't New Orleans up right now?
I'm confused.
Isn't New Orleans up right now?
Ridgelake
Footballguy
FUBAR
Footballguy
bounty!
5Rings
Lurker
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
I forgot about the rule violation.
Name to throw out, DE Damontre Moore Texas A&M
Name to throw out, DE Damontre Moore Texas A&M
FUBAR
Footballguy
He's easily BPA. Might be a top 20 pick and should go in the first.
Rivers needs protection. Currently the Chargers OL is bottom 5.
Brady Marino
Footballguy
Pugh and SD go together like peanut butter and jelly here.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
2.45 - Justin Pugh, OT/OG - Syracuse
I do like the suggestion of Damontre Moore as either he or Corey Lemonier might be considered. Linebackers in general...
I do like the suggestion of Damontre Moore as either he or Corey Lemonier might be considered. Linebackers in general...
Brady Marino
Footballguy
The two ways the Rams could go: OG Kyle Long or S DJ Swearinger
Kyle Long is the brother of Chris Long. He's a physical specimen at 6'6, 313 that can move very well for someone in his position and his strength is pass protection, which Sam Bradford would appreciate. He could be BPA with his skillset. But he is inexperienced, and he also needs a solid support system around him to keep a lid on his knucklehead tendencies.
DJ Swearinger would fill a major need for the Rams. He plays with a mean streak, a high motor, and is very well respected by his teammates. He's the kind of guy that Fisher loves. The issue is if the Rams gamble on getting their guy in the 3rd, as safety is a deep position this draft. Shamarko or Phillip Thomas could be available in the 3rd.
In conclusion, it's very easy for the Rams to go either way here. But the need to make sure Bradford is protected, the fact that Long is BPA, that safety is deep, AND the family connection, Long gets the slight edge.
With the 46th pick in the 2013 NFL Draft, the St. Louis Rams select...Kyle Long, Offensive Guard, Oregon
Kyle Long is the brother of Chris Long. He's a physical specimen at 6'6, 313 that can move very well for someone in his position and his strength is pass protection, which Sam Bradford would appreciate. He could be BPA with his skillset. But he is inexperienced, and he also needs a solid support system around him to keep a lid on his knucklehead tendencies.
DJ Swearinger would fill a major need for the Rams. He plays with a mean streak, a high motor, and is very well respected by his teammates. He's the kind of guy that Fisher loves. The issue is if the Rams gamble on getting their guy in the 3rd, as safety is a deep position this draft. Shamarko or Phillip Thomas could be available in the 3rd.
In conclusion, it's very easy for the Rams to go either way here. But the need to make sure Bradford is protected, the fact that Long is BPA, that safety is deep, AND the family connection, Long gets the slight edge.
With the 46th pick in the 2013 NFL Draft, the St. Louis Rams select...Kyle Long, Offensive Guard, Oregon
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
First Round
1 Kansas City - Andy D - Luke Joeckel, OT - Texas A&M
2 Jacksonville – jshare87 - Dion Jordan, DE/OLB - Oregon
3 Oakland - krsone21 - Sharrif Floyd, DT - Florida
4 Philadelphia - Andy D - Geno Smith, QB - WVU
5 Detroit - 8ebok24 - Eric Fisher, OT - Central Mich.
6 Cleveland - Bracie Smathers - CB Dee Milliner, Alabama
7 Arizona - ebaughn - Lane Johnson, OT - Oklahoma
8 Buffalo - Donsmith753 - Ryan Nassib, QB - Syracuse
9 NY Jets - Hell Toupee - Ziggy Ansah, DE - BYU
10 Tennessee - FUBAR - Xavier Rhodes, CB - FSU
11 San Diego – Ray Finkle - Chance Warmack, OG, Bama
12 Miami - Slapdash/JackReacher - CB desmond Trufant, Washington
13 Tampa Bay – RJS113 - FS Kenny Vaccaro, Texas
14 Carolina - jurb26 - DT Star Lotulelei, Utah
15 New Orleans - IHEARTFF - OLB/DE Jarvis Jones, Georgia
16 St. Louis - Brady Marino - WR Tavon Austin, West Virginia.
17 Pittsburgh - Evilgrin 72 - OLB/DE Barkevious Mingo, LSU.
18 Dallas - FunkyTeaParty - DT Sheldon Richardson, Missu
19 NY Giants - amicsta - Bjoern Werner, DE - FSU
20 Chicago - William Munny- Jonathan Cooper, OG, UNC
21 Cincinnati - cheese - OT DJ Fluker, Bama
22 St. Louis (from Washington) - Brady Marino - LB Alec Ogletree, UGA
23 Minnesota - 8ebok24 - Manti Te'o, MLB, ND
24 Indianapolis - Bamac - DeAndre Hopkins, WR - Clemson
25 Minnesota - 8ebok24 - Sylvester Williams, DT UNC
26 Green Bay - pipes/meyerj31 - Jonathan Cyprien, SS - FIU
27 Houston - meecrob - Arthur Brown LB - Kansas St
28 Denver - rascal - Cornellius Carradine, DE - FSU
29 New England – Tackling Dummies - Jamar Taylor, CB - Boise St.
30 Atlanta - D.J. Hayden, CB - Houston
31 San Francisco - 5Rings - WR Cordarrelle Patterson, TEN
32 Baltimore - Exalted One - LB Kevin Minter, LSU
SECOND ROUND
33. Jacksonville - – jshare87 - S Matt Elam, Florida
Dion Jordan, DE/OLB - Oregon
34. San Francisco (from Kansas City) - - 5Rings - DE Margus Hunt, SMU
Cordarrelle Patterson
35. Philadelphia - Andy D - TE Tyler Eifert, Notre Dame
Geno Smith, QB - WVU
36. Detroit - 8ebok24 - DE Alex Okafur, Texas
Eric Fisher, OT - Central Mich.
37. Cincinnati (from Oakland) - RB Eddie Lacy, Bama
OT DJ Fluker, Bama
38. Arizona - ebaughn - QB E.J. Manuel, FSU
Lane Johnson, OT - Oklahoma
Cleveland - used on 2012 supplemental selection of WR Josh Gordon
Dee Milliner, CB - Alabama
39. NY Jets - Hell Toupee - WR Keenan Allen, Cal
Ziggy Ansah, DE - BYU
40. Tennessee - FUBAR - DE Datone Jones, UCLA
Xavier Rhodes, CB - FSU
41. Buffalo - Donsmith753 - WR Robert Woods, USC
Ryan Nassib, QB - Syracuse
42. Miami - Slapdash/JackReacher - RT Menelik Watson, FSU
CB desmond Trufant, Washington
43. Tampa Bay - RJS113 - TE Gavin Escobar, SDSU
FS Kenny Vaccaro
**TRADE**44. Carolina (jurb26) trades pick to MIN- WR Justin Hunter, TENN
Manti Te'o, MLB -- Sylvester Williams, DT UNC
New Orleans - IHEARTFF - forfiet due to NFL imposed rule violation
OLB/DE Jarvis Jones, Georgia
45. San Diego - Ray Finkle - OT Justin Pugh, Syracuse
Chance Warmack, OG, Bama
46. St. Louis - Brady Marino - OT Kyle Long, Oregon
WR Tavon Austin, West Virginia.-- LB Alec Ogletree, UGA
47. Dallas - FunkyTeaParty -
DT Sheldon Richardson, Missu
48. Pittsburgh - Evilgrin 72 -
OLB/DE Barkevious Mingo, LSU.
49. NY Giants - amicsta -
Bjoern Werner, DE - FSU
50. Chicago - William Munny-
Jonathan Cooper, OG
51. Washington - ? -
**TRADE**52. Minnesota trades pick to CAR - jurb -
DT Star Lotulelei, Utah
53. Cincinnati - cheese -
OT DJ Fluker, Bama
54. Miami (from Indianapolis) -
CB desmond Trufant, Washington
55. Green Bay - pipes/meyerj31 -
Jonathan Cyprien, SS - FIU
56. Seattle - ? -
--
57. Houston - meecrob -
Arthur Brown LB - Kansas St
58. Denver - rascal
Cornellius Carradine, DE - FSU
59. New England - Tackling Dummies -
Jamar Taylor, CB - Boise St.
60. Atlanta - Tackling Dummies -
D.J. Hayden, CB - Houston
61. San Francisco - 5Rings -
WR Cordarrelle Patterson, TEN
62. Baltimore - Exalted One -
LB Kevin Minter, LSU
1 Kansas City - Andy D - Luke Joeckel, OT - Texas A&M
2 Jacksonville – jshare87 - Dion Jordan, DE/OLB - Oregon
3 Oakland - krsone21 - Sharrif Floyd, DT - Florida
4 Philadelphia - Andy D - Geno Smith, QB - WVU
5 Detroit - 8ebok24 - Eric Fisher, OT - Central Mich.
6 Cleveland - Bracie Smathers - CB Dee Milliner, Alabama
7 Arizona - ebaughn - Lane Johnson, OT - Oklahoma
8 Buffalo - Donsmith753 - Ryan Nassib, QB - Syracuse
9 NY Jets - Hell Toupee - Ziggy Ansah, DE - BYU
10 Tennessee - FUBAR - Xavier Rhodes, CB - FSU
11 San Diego – Ray Finkle - Chance Warmack, OG, Bama
12 Miami - Slapdash/JackReacher - CB desmond Trufant, Washington
13 Tampa Bay – RJS113 - FS Kenny Vaccaro, Texas
14 Carolina - jurb26 - DT Star Lotulelei, Utah
15 New Orleans - IHEARTFF - OLB/DE Jarvis Jones, Georgia
16 St. Louis - Brady Marino - WR Tavon Austin, West Virginia.
17 Pittsburgh - Evilgrin 72 - OLB/DE Barkevious Mingo, LSU.
18 Dallas - FunkyTeaParty - DT Sheldon Richardson, Missu
19 NY Giants - amicsta - Bjoern Werner, DE - FSU
20 Chicago - William Munny- Jonathan Cooper, OG, UNC
21 Cincinnati - cheese - OT DJ Fluker, Bama
22 St. Louis (from Washington) - Brady Marino - LB Alec Ogletree, UGA
23 Minnesota - 8ebok24 - Manti Te'o, MLB, ND
24 Indianapolis - Bamac - DeAndre Hopkins, WR - Clemson
25 Minnesota - 8ebok24 - Sylvester Williams, DT UNC
26 Green Bay - pipes/meyerj31 - Jonathan Cyprien, SS - FIU
27 Houston - meecrob - Arthur Brown LB - Kansas St
28 Denver - rascal - Cornellius Carradine, DE - FSU
29 New England – Tackling Dummies - Jamar Taylor, CB - Boise St.
30 Atlanta - D.J. Hayden, CB - Houston
31 San Francisco - 5Rings - WR Cordarrelle Patterson, TEN
32 Baltimore - Exalted One - LB Kevin Minter, LSU
SECOND ROUND
33. Jacksonville - – jshare87 - S Matt Elam, Florida
Dion Jordan, DE/OLB - Oregon
34. San Francisco (from Kansas City) - - 5Rings - DE Margus Hunt, SMU
Cordarrelle Patterson
35. Philadelphia - Andy D - TE Tyler Eifert, Notre Dame
Geno Smith, QB - WVU
36. Detroit - 8ebok24 - DE Alex Okafur, Texas
Eric Fisher, OT - Central Mich.
37. Cincinnati (from Oakland) - RB Eddie Lacy, Bama
OT DJ Fluker, Bama
38. Arizona - ebaughn - QB E.J. Manuel, FSU
Lane Johnson, OT - Oklahoma
Cleveland - used on 2012 supplemental selection of WR Josh Gordon
Dee Milliner, CB - Alabama
39. NY Jets - Hell Toupee - WR Keenan Allen, Cal
Ziggy Ansah, DE - BYU
40. Tennessee - FUBAR - DE Datone Jones, UCLA
Xavier Rhodes, CB - FSU
41. Buffalo - Donsmith753 - WR Robert Woods, USC
Ryan Nassib, QB - Syracuse
42. Miami - Slapdash/JackReacher - RT Menelik Watson, FSU
CB desmond Trufant, Washington
43. Tampa Bay - RJS113 - TE Gavin Escobar, SDSU
FS Kenny Vaccaro
**TRADE**44. Carolina (jurb26) trades pick to MIN- WR Justin Hunter, TENN
Manti Te'o, MLB -- Sylvester Williams, DT UNC
New Orleans - IHEARTFF - forfiet due to NFL imposed rule violation
OLB/DE Jarvis Jones, Georgia
45. San Diego - Ray Finkle - OT Justin Pugh, Syracuse
Chance Warmack, OG, Bama
46. St. Louis - Brady Marino - OT Kyle Long, Oregon
WR Tavon Austin, West Virginia.-- LB Alec Ogletree, UGA
47. Dallas - FunkyTeaParty -
DT Sheldon Richardson, Missu
48. Pittsburgh - Evilgrin 72 -
OLB/DE Barkevious Mingo, LSU.
49. NY Giants - amicsta -
Bjoern Werner, DE - FSU
50. Chicago - William Munny-
Jonathan Cooper, OG
51. Washington - ? -
**TRADE**52. Minnesota trades pick to CAR - jurb -
DT Star Lotulelei, Utah
53. Cincinnati - cheese -
OT DJ Fluker, Bama
54. Miami (from Indianapolis) -
CB desmond Trufant, Washington
55. Green Bay - pipes/meyerj31 -
Jonathan Cyprien, SS - FIU
56. Seattle - ? -
--
57. Houston - meecrob -
Arthur Brown LB - Kansas St
58. Denver - rascal
Cornellius Carradine, DE - FSU
59. New England - Tackling Dummies -
Jamar Taylor, CB - Boise St.
60. Atlanta - Tackling Dummies -
D.J. Hayden, CB - Houston
61. San Francisco - 5Rings -
WR Cordarrelle Patterson, TEN
62. Baltimore - Exalted One -
LB Kevin Minter, LSU
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
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Well, Ridgelake? What do the 'Boys do here?
Well, Ridgelake? What do the 'Boys do here?
Ridgelake
Footballguy
Dallas could go multiple directions here too. They have major needs at OL, DL, and Safety. In this mock, they went DL in round 1. They still have to fill the other spots.
In looking at their official visit list, which historically has been a strong indicator of interest for the team, they've brought in many OL prospects that are targeted to go in the first 75 picks and almost none thereafter. In contrast, they have looked at safeties who can reasonably go well into the 4th rounds. In contrast, Elam is the remaining safety in the 2nd tier and there is a material drop off thereafter.
Weighing these various items, i think Dallas ultimately goes OL with this pick, assuming another position in the first. So with that stated, the Cowboys pick:
T. Armstead OG/OT.
Now if Jerry mixes up his Viagra with his regular meds, I could see them go crazy with something like Marcus Lattimore or Giovanni Bernard. But I'll assume Garrett has enough pull to keep Jerry for going too crazy and stay OL.
In looking at their official visit list, which historically has been a strong indicator of interest for the team, they've brought in many OL prospects that are targeted to go in the first 75 picks and almost none thereafter. In contrast, they have looked at safeties who can reasonably go well into the 4th rounds. In contrast, Elam is the remaining safety in the 2nd tier and there is a material drop off thereafter.
Weighing these various items, i think Dallas ultimately goes OL with this pick, assuming another position in the first. So with that stated, the Cowboys pick:
T. Armstead OG/OT.
Now if Jerry mixes up his Viagra with his regular meds, I could see them go crazy with something like Marcus Lattimore or Giovanni Bernard. But I'll assume Garrett has enough pull to keep Jerry for going too crazy and stay OL.
Ridgelake
Footballguy
I'll also add that if Dallas went OL in round 1, that DL would be in play here. D. Moore would be strongly considered in that circumstance, along with Kawann Short. Also, the safety Reid would get very, very strong consideration.
So many solid choices for them, so few picks.
So many solid choices for them, so few picks.
