James Daulton
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How much do lawyers typically pay for malpractice insurance? I assume this varies by type of lawyer?
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Yankee23Fan
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Alot. It varies by years of practice as well. The longer you've practiced the more potential clients you have to sue you.
Short Corner
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
What is the SoL like on malpractice in New York/NJ?
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fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
. Yeah I did an appellate clerkship. I have some mixed feelings about it and probably wouldn't have done it in hindsight. It was an interesting experience and might have helped me get my second and third jobs, but I don't really know for sure. What I do know for sure is that I gave up many thousands of dollars to do that instead of a firm job. I was sort of naive about money at the time, I just sort of assumed the money wasn't a big deal, but it's 12 years later and I still haven't paid off my student loans.I might not be the best guy to ask though, I don't actually like being a lawyer and I try to avoid bringing it up in social contexts. I agree somewhat with some of the stuff Shick! was saying. Some of these other guys in here sound like they have esquire tattooed on their foreheads.
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Henry Ford
Footballguy
Only my junk. The forehead seemed a little gauche.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
6 years.
T Bell
Footballguy
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Zow
Footballguy
Mookie
Footballguy
I did a two year clerkship with a State Supreme Court. I loved the work, and it made me a MUCH better researcher, writer, and legal thinker. Do a little due diligence on the Judge beforehand to make sure that you will be able to work with them - I saw some clerks clash with their Judge and it never ended well. Call some of the Judge's former clerks - this will give you the best idea of the working relationship.
Financially, it hurt, but it opened up a lot of doors and interviews for me down the road. Having a reference from a Supreme Court Justice(s) can be looked at as additional compensation in the long run IMO. If you have a big $ offer from a firm, I'd seriously weigh the financial cost/benefits of doing the clerkship and if you have big loans, it might not be for you. Otherwise, I would recommend it.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
I'm usually not a huge fan of my profession but I hate the we are all pigs attack because I specifically work hard to not be that guy.
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
I think Shick's critique was a little more nuanced than "all lawyers are pigs."
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Already 4 pages. And as is typical for lawyers this thread is self-serving, tedious, and overly verbose.
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Most lawyers either break down into one of two camps, whether they know it or not:
1. Spencer Tracey as Clarence Darrow in "Inherit The Wind"; or
2. Gregory Peck as Atticus Finch in "To Kill a Mockingbird."
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
I was a huge fan of Kevin Pollock in A Few Good Men.
"I strenuously object?" Is that how it works? Hm? "Objection." "Overruled." "Oh, no, no, no. No, I STRENUOUSLY object." "Oh. Well, if you strenuously object then I should take some time to reconsider."
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
I thought most lawyers were more like Tom Cruise in "The Firm" minus the Mafia stuff.
Basically sitting at a desk piled high with work and never setting foot in a courtroom. No?
Basically sitting at a desk piled high with work and never setting foot in a courtroom. No?
Don Quixote
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TheIronSheik
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So just to be clear, it's not illegal to claim to be a lawyer in this thread as long as you don't charge for services? Hypothetically speaking for a friend, of course. 
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Em wants to be a fake lawyer???So just to be clear, it's not illegal to claim to be a lawyer in this thread as long as you don't charge for services? Hypothetically speaking for a friend, of course.
Gandalf the Grey
Footballguy
You really think they ruined this thread? I don't, I find it fascinating reading. It's always interesting to learn about a profession IMO and the responses from the lawyers further that. There's no doubt that a negative perception exists with the general public regarding lawyers (I honestly don't have that perception). Lawyer jokes/insults have been made on this board for years, the phrase "ambulance chasers" is well known, lawyers seem to have been blamed for all kinds of things in our culture. I just find their responses interesting rather than think the thread has been ruined.mr roboto said:
Who doesn't love lawyer TV, seeing one scream "I object!!", and all the associated courtroom drama?
Instinctive
Footballguy
commisholio
Come out with your pants down!
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-fish-
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Henry Ford
Footballguy
If only there had been a real lawyer as inspiring as the fictional character Clarence Darrow.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
There are good lawyers and bad lawyers. I've dealt with a few lawyers that deal with adoption stuff and they were awesome people. I also knew some law school professors that made my stomach churn for how they viewed the practice of law and what they were teaching to their students.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Spencer Tracy's portrayal was indeed fictional; the character was based on a real person, it was not the actual person.
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Zow
Footballguy
Eh, depends on area of practice. For the types I do I'm in court more often than I'm not.
In fact, I'm typing this in the middle of court right now.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
That is about right. I have not talked to a single person all day; I have spent it working on memos, responding to e-mails, and making the occassional FFA post.
If there is a movie that reflected this, I'm pretty sure no one would watch.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
-fish-
Footballguy
I spent today making lunch and golf plans for the week, then having a discussion about the merits of losing a motion on purpose since we're going to go up on appeal anyway, and it could potentially save some time.
Then I responded to a bunch of emails from the owners' wife, who was asking nonsensical questions about speaking engagements that I do for marketing, as well as questioning expenses of $3.48 and $5.00 that were on my credit card, despite the fact that our accountant has receipts for all of my expenses.
Then I responded to a bunch of emails from the owners' wife, who was asking nonsensical questions about speaking engagements that I do for marketing, as well as questioning expenses of $3.48 and $5.00 that were on my credit card, despite the fact that our accountant has receipts for all of my expenses.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
krista4
Footballguy
Zow
Footballguy
Would it make you feel better that it was during an issue being litigated by other parties which didn't concern my client (which we took at an indigent rate so I wasn't billing on it) and this occurred after I talked previous down from harming himself with a knife and two hearings after I won liberal visitation for my client against a party who was keeping his son from him without cause?
:flexlawyermuscles:
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Lmao.... Your honor can you hold that thought. .. The ffa needs an update. .. Thanks.
T Bell
Footballguy
T Bell
Footballguy
Zow
Footballguy
I'm just that talented.
(And I also assume you aren't terribly familiar with Dependency hearings where it's common that one of the parties involved, of which there are multiple, will often have no standing to be heard on a particular issue.)
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I think certain traits are probably found more often in lawyers due to the nature of the job and what it takes to become a lawyer. But that can be either good or bad.
Some of my absolute favorite people here are lawyers because they are well spoken, reasonable people that can see both sides, intelligent and yet still have compassion for others.
The flipside is that some of my least favorite people here are lawyers and they're condescending, obnoxious sticklers who would rather fight to the death over a technicality rather than show some compassion to a fellow FBG or concede that it's possible yo view something from a different angle.
Some of my absolute favorite people here are lawyers because they are well spoken, reasonable people that can see both sides, intelligent and yet still have compassion for others.
The flipside is that some of my least favorite people here are lawyers and they're condescending, obnoxious sticklers who would rather fight to the death over a technicality rather than show some compassion to a fellow FBG or concede that it's possible yo view something from a different angle.
T Bell
Footballguy
T Bell
Footballguy
Defended a 30-year old swimsuit/lingerie model today in a deposition. She was very badly injured in a bad accident involving a semi truck on a SoCal freeway, following which (as part of the same accident) she was t-boned by a pickup truck. Shattered pelvis, split liver, torn diaphragm, four surgeries.
Anyway, the opposing counsel taking the depo, a female, had her show her her extensive surgical scars, which are admittedly pretty bad.
I got to watch.
Anyway, the opposing counsel taking the depo, a female, had her show her her extensive surgical scars, which are admittedly pretty bad.
I got to watch.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I didn't name names. There are several posters that fit one or more of those descriptors.
Zow
Footballguy
You win.Defended a 30-year old swimsuit/lingerie model today in a deposition. She was very badly injured in a bad accident involving a semi truck on a SoCal freeway, following which (as part of the same accident) she was t-boned by a pickup truck. Shattered pelvis, split liver, torn diaphragm, four surgeries.
Anyway, the opposing counsel taking the depo, a female, had her show her her extensive surgical scars, which are admittedly pretty bad.
I got to watch.
T Bell
Footballguy
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